Re: Received my injection today along with a change of diagnoses

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When I was at my worst, with needing T3,  I had plantar fasciitis (is that policemans heal) and also both shoulders frozen (needed putting to sleep and severe manipulation), amongst a lot of other things.   I was taking thyroxine, which was put up to 150 mcg without any improvement.   As soon as I started T3 there was an improvement although it still took nearly a year to get the balance of T4 and T3 right.

I had injection in both heals without anaesthetic and it was as if he was pushing a screwdriver through my heal.   Horrendous.Lilian

 but have now been told that it is not frozen shoulders that I have. Its to do with the tendons in the shoulder, and the Doctor said it was the most common shoulder problem he has to deal with. He gave me an anaesthetic then a steroid injection (not cortisone), and he did not hurt unlike when I had injections from a GP for policemans heel, and the second one was given without an aneasthetic.

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I have had aching shoulders and heels for years. When I got onto T3 and HC they improved and also improved after going gluten free. I think it has to do with adrenal fatigue because connective tissue is made out of the same stuff as adrenals. I think the body prioritises the adrenals when they are fatigued robbing other tissues of the nutrients they need and this causes the inflammation and aching. I suspect this is why I felt better when I started taking T3 and HC. And the gluten free diet may have relieved the adrenals of the stress of dealing with gut inflammation, freeing up resources that can be used for connective tissues. Another source of relief for aching connective tissue was iron. My legs really ached until I started taking iron tablets.

None of these solutions was a complete cure but most of what I have written above provided a noticeable improvement.

So if the injections don't work or are not a permanent solution may be you should investigate adrenal fatigue. I have read in several places that adrenal fatigue causes connective tissue inflammation in the shoulders, heels, calves, lower back and upper arms.

Hope this helps,

MacGilchrist

From: bty94627179 <kranger1@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Wed, 5 January, 2011 15:21:18Subject: Received my injection today along with a change of diagnoses

HI ALLI have received my injection today, but have now been told that it is not frozen shoulders that I have. Its to do with the tendons in the shoulder, and the Doctor said it was the most common shoulder problem he has to deal with. He gave me an anaesthetic then a steroid injection (not cortisone), and he did not hurt unlike when I had injections from a GP for policemans heel, and the second one was given without an aneasthetic.The Doctor told me today that it may or may not work, but that it could take up to 4 weeks to improve. He also said that if it works it could help the other areas to get better including the other shoulder.I still do not know what has caused the problem with the tendons, and if its related to the CRP AND ESR being raised, as yet.Kathleen

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I have wondered if it is T3 I need, and that it is the problem with thyroxine.

Although the thyroxine I have been taking is marked as GOLDSHIELDS I have now

found that it is a generic one. I have also found that as stateed in my article

about canines that a generic version is not absorbed as well, so does this in

turn cause the TSH to rise due to the absorbtion problem with generic versions.

Do you have to balance what you do in the day (activity) along with balancing

the T4 and T3.

I do not know if a rhumatologist will test my T3 along with his tests. My

referral for that has been sent off. I also have the Chelsea and Westminster on

26th, so perhaps if one can't help the other might.

If all my symptoms are the result of not having T3 as well, then when we have

our DEMO I may need you Lilian to help carry my poster so that I can list all

the things it has caused.

We are certainly going to have to get it across to the Government just how much

can be saved by correct treatment.

Lilian did your policemans heel suddenly occur, as I was at work when I

experianced this which was sudden, and so painful that I was in tears.

Kathleen

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> When I was at my worst, with needing T3, I had plantar fasciitis (is that

> policemans heal) and also both shoulders frozen (needed putting to sleep and

> severe manipulation), amongst a lot of other things. I was taking

> thyroxine, which was put up to 150 mcg without any improvement. As soon as

> I started T3 there was an improvement although it still took nearly a year

> to get the balance of T4 and T3 right.

>

> I had injection in both heals without anaesthetic and it was as if he was

> pushing a screwdriver through my heal. Horrendous.

>

> Lilian

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathleen

I had a frozen shoulder many years ago (before taking thyroid meds). My GP

suggested injections - I said " no " as I don't like injections.

I took some cat's claw supplements for about three weeks. On my next visit to my

GP she was amazed at the improvement - but she did not agree with alternative

therapy/medicine.

With my last bout of frozen shoulder (also before thyroid meds) I saw another GP

- he told me that the pain was because the sheath - which contains the nerves -

was swolen and was pressing on the nerves - he gave me anti-inflamatory tablets

and ibrufen.

Within about 4 weeks all the pain had gone.

I am now taking 40mg T3 and 1 grain NDT - so I hope that I will not have any

more frozen shoulders.

B

[Guest guest]

HI

From this sounds like it could relate to that fall I had on that bus in June.

The shock could cause problems to the adrenal glands, but in turn could it then

go on to cause a multiple of fibroids, causing pain in the hip area. The pain

has spread from that area, and I would not describe it as aching, as I cannot

stand anyone touching the shoulder. My right one is the worst affected, but it

is also the one which lymph glands have been removed due to breast cancer. When

I also have problems with my health this arm also suffers underneath which feels

like a swollen golf ball underneath, so I am suffering in the underneath and on

top of the shoulder.

This has happened gradually from that fall with the neck at the time first in

much pain,(arthritas was diagnsed in 1973) so the more pain there is the more

the adrenal glands are affected, so from this I gather the more tissues then

get affected, and this creates a viscous circle with adrenal stress creating

more pain, so more stress from that pain so more tissues get affected.

In turn I cannot take painkillers as they cause constipation. From what I have

read these fibroids can cause constipation and obstruct the ureters, in turn

causing bladder problems. Amitriptiline made my mouth so dry that I could not

take it, but in turn I am experiancing a dry mouth, so to make it worse NO

THANKS.

Years ago I passed out on Amitripiline, at the time also on lactulose for

constipation and ended up in Atkinson Morley. IRON I think will make things

worse as that too is constipating. FIBROIDS FIRST.

are you able to tolerate anybody shouting at you,or getting angry with you

as I can't. This in turn led to my marriage break-up, but also sounds relevant

with my Daughters break-up, and if alcohol is also involved, in turn leads to

male anger.

I have always felt that my health suffered in childhood due to my Mother having

a brain tumor plus she would have had untreated thyroid problem. I was the one

that got hit, and my older sister was not treated well. They dare not hit my

older brother due to epilepsy, and the younger one was idled, in turn it creates

further problems among siblings.

Kathleen

>

> I have had aching shoulders and heels for years.  When I got onto T3 and HC

they

> improved and also improved after going gluten free.  I think it has to do

with

> adrenal fatigue because connective tissue is made out of the same stuff as

> adrenals.  I think the body prioritises the adrenals when they are fatigued

> robbing other tissues of the nutrients they need and this causes the

> inflammation and aching.  I suspect this is why I felt better when I started

> taking T3 and HC.  And the gluten free diet may have relieved the adrenals of

> should investigate adrenal fatigue.  I have read in several places that

adrenal

> fatigue causes connective tissue inflammation in the shoulders, heels, calves,

> lower back and upper arms.

> Hope this helps,

> MacGilchrist

>

>

>

> ________________________________

[Guest guest]

HI DENISE

I have now been told that it is not a frozen shoulder, but its to to with the

tendon. He knew what he was doing and did not cause me any pain with putting the

injection in. He said if it works it could take up to 4 weeks. I had to sign a

form of consent for it. If it works it could help the other areas as the

injection gets into the tissues.

There is a bigger problem with my right shoulder as most lymph glands have been

removed, but in turn when one is having health problem they cause pain like

having a golf ball under ones arm.

I have another appointment in a month to start on exercises.

I also have a DEXA SCAN on 18th.

Kathleen

>

> Hi Kathleen

>

> I had a frozen shoulder many years ago (before taking thyroid meds). My GP

suggested injections - I said " no " as I don't like injections.

>

> I am now taking 40mg T3 and 1 grain NDT - so I hope that I will not have any

more frozen shoulders.

>

> B

>