Re: Serious heart problem caused by thyroiditis OR treatment???

[Guest guest]

Hi Lousie!

I'm really sorry to read about what you've been going through I don't know

whether this will be of any help whatsoever, but in case it is...I'm on levo and

for the past couple of years, I've suffered from tachycardia and I'm still very

hypo. Lots of things trigger it, but the worst is if I try to increase my meds

(which my tsh and symptoms agree I should do). It's not just with levo - it's

worse with natural thyroid and even worse with synthetic t3. It appears I have a

problem with celluar uptake of the t3 (this is just me trying to work it out, I

hasten to add) as my t4 is low and my t3 high. I think the tachy is a symptom of

being thyrotoxic. I *think* in my case this is down to low iron and possibly

high reverse t3...am just at the beginning of finding answers.

But yes, it is possible to have heart issues with hypoT, either by being toxic

or being plain old hypo (cardio told me this). Don't know whether that's what's

going on for you, but I sincerely hope you get some answers.

Susie x

[Guest guest]

Susie - check out the attached document of other associated

conditions that go along with hypothyroidism and see whether one of these cold

be stopping your thyroid uptake at cellular level.

Also, ask your GP to test y our ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin

D3, folate, copper and zinc to see whether any of these are low in the range.

When the results come through, post them here together with the reference range

for each of the tests done and we can help with their interpretation.

Luv - Sheila

I'm really sorry to read about what you've been going through I don't know

whether this will be of any help whatsoever, but in case it is...I'm on levo

and for the past couple of years, I've suffered from tachycardia and I'm still

very hypo. Lots of things trigger it, but the worst is if I try to increase my

meds (which my tsh and symptoms agree I should do). It's not just with levo -

it's worse with natural thyroid and even worse with synthetic t3. It appears I

have a problem with celluar uptake of the t3 (this is just me trying to work it

out, I hasten to add) as my t4 is low and my t3 high. I think the tachy is a

symptom of being thyrotoxic. I *think* in my case this is down to low iron and

possibly high reverse t3...am just at the beginning of finding answers.

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Why thyroid hormone stops working (2).doc

[Guest guest]

Louise,

Definately have a read of Hypothyroidism Type II by Dr Mark Starr. He explains

that the first sign some people have that they are hypothyroid, is when they

have a heart attack. He shows photographs of a hypothyroid heart, (enlarged)

which reduced with hormone treatment and then enlarged again when treatment

withdrawn. Theres a ton of other info too.

Untreated hypo which results in a tsh of more than 4 puts people at risk of

heart problems, according to the society for endocrinology.

. x

> I really want to get to the bottom of the cause. Was it because I went so

long untreated or because I took too much T4 trying to get my symptoms to

reduce?

[Guest guest]

Well this explains a lot!! Many years ago (in my 30s) I went to see a heart

specialist as I (thought) had inherited angina from my mother. he said that my

heart was enlarged and that he had never seen the heart of someone as young as

me that had been so stressed. I had not put it together with my hypo til now.

Glynis

> " Definately have a read of Hypothyroidism Type II by Dr Mark Starr. He

explains that the first sign some people have that they are hypothyroid, is when

they have a heart attack. He shows photographs of a hypothyroid heart,

(enlarged) which reduced with hormone treatment and then enlarged again when

treatment withdrawn. Theres a ton of other info too.

> Untreated hypo which results in a tsh of more than 4 puts people at risk of

heart problems, according to the society for endocrinology.

>

> . "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the replies. To hear that others have had similar experiences is

comforting. I have asked Sheila about borrowing the book. It is SO scary to have

a broken heart (LOL!). If I have understood then since it was not underlying

heart disease (needing a new heart) then if the right side fails for some

reason, which is not uncommon, then heart has some emergency backup method to

somehow keep going very slowly, but I will be a goner unless a pacemaker is

fitted very quickly. I have to get symptoms to have the pacemaker fitted

earlier. Hmm. It is just ANOTHER thing on my emergency bracelet because ECGs etc

don't work on me anymore and if they don't know I have the problem then they

treat me for having a heart attack or something which could kill me. :-(

So was it the thryoid failing that caused the problem or taking the T4 that I

think I was not processing?? Any info on this question greatefully received.

Has anyone else had heart problems or is this another thing that people should

try and get checked?

Again, I must re-iterate - I really was NOT getting any symptoms to indicate

that anything was wrong at any stage. The chest pains that led to the ECG that

found the problem were minor and the nurse who did the test was severely told

off by the doctor for wasting time till he looked at the results (we were only

seperated by a curtain!)

I do hope this tale might help others. Knowing you have right or left bundle

branch block is very important if you ever need emergency treatment.

Kind regards, Louise

[Guest guest]

I have the book, but it is earmarked for somebody else who has

asked to borrow it, so can't let it go Louise.

Can I ask if any other member has the Book 'Hypothyroidism type 2

- by Mark Starr', If you have, please let me know if you are happy and willing

to lend this out to others for the cost of postage. The cost of postage has

gone up since the I wrote out the details the other day to £2.80 per book.

It is well known that some common and often undiagnosed symptoms

and dangerous consequences of low thyroid include: serious mental problems,

seizures, heart disease, diabetes including misdiagnosis and complications,

constipation resulting in colon cancer, all female problems (due to high

amounts of dangerous forms of oestrogen), including: tumours, fibroids, ovarian

cysts, PMS, endometriosis, breast cancer, miscarriage, heavy periods and

cramps, bladder problems leading to infections, anaemia, elevated CPK,

elevated creatinine, elevated transaminases, hypercapnia, hyperlipidaemia,

hypoglycaemia, hyponatraemia, hypoxia, leukopaenia respiratory acidosis and

others....

….but still, even if you have many of the symptoms and

signs of hypothyroidism, if your thyroid function results come back within the

reference range, you will be told you don't have a thyroid problem because your

blood test results don't lie!

There is info. on Google about 'left bundle branch block

hypothyroidism' Read

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2245813/

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6T18-5055V5R-14 & _user=10 & _coverDate=01%2F31%2F1986 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt=high & _orig=search & _origin=search & _sort=d & _docanchor= & view=c & _searchStrId=1644382824 & _rerunOrigin=google & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=338822a3b9ee05e830a23db099987a00 & searchtype=a

http://europace.oxfordjournals.org/content/7/6/604.full

http://www.ourdiabetes.com/ekg/

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UGVylX6g4i8C & pg=PA1067 & lpg=PA1067 & dq=left+bundle+branch+block+hypothyroidism & source=bl & ots=elXnwisWg6 & sig=5osD163BYHXEndfXmYoyDZNRnfg & hl=en & ei=ER5cTa7TDobOhAfOnfDeDQ & sa=X & oi=book_result & ct=result & resnum=1 & ved=0CBUQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage & q=left%20bundle%20branch%20block%20hypothyroidism & f=false

Luv - Sheila

So was it the thryoid failing that caused the problem or taking the T4 that I

think I was not processing?? Any info on this question greatefully received.

Has anyone else had heart problems or is this another thing that people should

try and get checked?

Again, I must re-iterate - I really was NOT getting any symptoms to indicate

that anything was wrong at any stage. The chest pains that led to the ECG that

found the problem were minor and the nurse who did the test was severely told

off by the doctor for wasting time till he looked at the results (we were only

seperated by a curtain!)