Re: Advice for Lab results (Adrenal Stress Profile)

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Hi

Stuart

Your

adrenal stress profile does show low adrenal reserve, and yes, this could be

the cause of your problem. You need to get some Nutri Adrenal Extra and start

taking these as soon as possible. you should also be taking high doses of

vitamin C e.g. 4/5000mgs daily, Siberian Ginseng and liquorice tincture.

Nutri Adrenal Extra you can buy with a 33% discount as a TPA member. See our

FILES section and scroll down to 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements' - open

the Nutri Ltd Folder and follow the instructions, quoting the reference number

there when you place your order.

I

would ask your GP to test your ferritin, vitamin B12m vitamin D3, magnesium,

folate, copper and zinc to see where they lie in the reference range. If any of

these are low, this could be the reason why your thyroid hormone is not doing

the job it is supposed to. By your thyroid results, your fT4 is too high which

shows it is probably not converting to the active thyroid hormone T3. It is T3

your body needs, not T4. T4 is a mainly inactive hormone. If any of your

vitamins/minerals mentioned above need supplementing this would stop the

thyroid hormone being properly utilised at cellular level. It is very important

you get these tested.

When

your NAE arrive, start by taking 1 tablet with breakfast, and after 7 days, add

another tablet with your lunch, but don't take any after 1.00p.m. After

another 7 to 10 days, you can add another tablet with your breakfast and if

necessary keep increasing in this way until you find your symptoms subsiding.

Some people need to take up to 6 tablets daily, but this is usually an

indication they need to start a short course of HC as the NAE is not sufficient

to boost your adrenals.

Have

a look at the symptoms and signs of hypothyroidism and check yours against

those in our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk

and click on Hypothyroidism, and then on 'Symptoms and Signs'. See attached document

to show the connection between low vitamins and minerals and symptoms of

hypothyroidism if your GP refuses to believe there is any connection. He is

there to HELP you, not to hinder you and cause you worsening health problems by

refusing to do the tests required.

You

may well find that once your adrenals are boosted, the thyroxine might start to

work better, but it is more likely you are going to need some form of T3 adding

to your T4, either natural or in natural thyroid extract, T3 along or natural

thyroid extract alone. Remind your doctor if necessary that he should be

treating your symptoms and signs, and not bits of paper.

Speak

to your GP about this and ask for a trial, and if he is reluctant, ask to be

referred to a doctor on my list of doctors recommended by members of this

forum.

Luv

- Sheila

Could adrenal stress cause the following symptoms

Ringing in ears

Poor eyesight seems to get worse as day progresses

Dizziness but not necessarily when standing

Slightly sensitive to light and sound

Still have plenty energy

Blood pressure does not drop when standing up but is low.

I'm not taking any supplements and could not convince my GP to do any vitamins

testing

Where do I go from here

Many thank

Stuart

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MINERALS AND VIT. TESTING.doc

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> Hi Stuart

>

> Your adrenal stress profile does show low adrenal reserve, and yes, this

> could be the cause of your problem. You need to get some Nutri Adrenal Extra

Hi Sheila

Sorry for not getting back to you but I know how busy you must be and didn't

want to bother you, many thanks for the great help you've given me and many

others so far. I'm afraid I'm looking for a bit more advice if it's not too much

trouble.

I purchased some Nutri Adrenal Extra. I was a little nervous about taking a

whole tablet as I am fairly small built at 5ft 7 " and 8.5 stones in weight so I

chopped one tablet in half and took it with my breakfast, but by lunch time I

was concerned because I was experiencing dizziness, dry skin, felt very cold,

had to keep clearing my throat.

Taking the half tablet seemed to make my T4 toxic symptoms worse i,e dizziness

and having to clear my throat, however it did seem to improve my blurred vision.

As I have an unusually busy week ahead at work I decided to stop taking the

Nutri Adrenal extra after my 1st dosage as I can't afford to feel more unwell

this week.

Just wonder what your thoughts are :-

Could it be that I'm still truly taking too much thyroxine and it is only once I

get my optimal level that I need to start introducing Nutri adrenal extra.

Would very much welcome your thoughts

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

I think I'm still on the verge of going t4 toxic. Since July last year my dosage

has been getting reduced from 100mcg to the now 62.5. This has been improving my

symptoms of blurred vision, dizziness, clearing my throat although it did bring

on hypo symptoms that after a while have leveled out and to my amazement almost

stopped even on such a small dosage.

Any hypo symptoms I have are now fairly mild e.g. mild occasional IBS a little

cold, little dry skin, my biggest problem is dizziness load buzzing in ears and

blurred vision. It also feels like I have a constant head cold. These symptoms

seem to improved each time I reduced my thyroxine.

If I keep going like this I'm going to end up on no thyroxine! My last lab

result showed a very suppressed TSH and High T4 even on 75mcg

I know 62.5mcg is a rather small amount of thyroxine but for that last several

months I seem to be very sensitive to how much thyroxine I take. I would Imagine

my TSH will still be very suppressed and T4 high even on 62.5mcg

I'm going to arrange a blood test since it's been more than 7 weeks since I

reduced my thyroxine to 62.5mcg. I'm also going to see my GP just to see where

my levels are and again I will push to get the vitamin levels checked as you

recommended.

Again sorry to bother you and I won't bather answering unless I have something I

need help with as I know you must be very busy

Best wishes

Stuart

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I purchased some Nutri Adrenal Extra. I was a

little nervous about taking a whole tablet as I am fairly small built at 5ft

7 " and 8.5 stones in weight so I chopped one tablet in half and took it

with my breakfast, but by lunch time I was concerned because I was experiencing

dizziness, dry skin, felt very cold, had to keep clearing my throat.

When starting to take Nutri Adrenal Extra, you should stop any

thyroid hormone replacement you have been taking for at least a week, before

starting back on it on Day 8 of taking NAE. However, you should have not have

experienced the symptoms you describe in such a few hours. Remind me

again about how much levothyroxine you are taking and how long you have been

taking it. Yes, indeed, if you are taking too high a dose of thyroxine, the NAE

could well cause a 'thyroid dump' which would give you symptoms of thyroid

toxicity. It may be that you are not in need of ANY thyroid hormone replacement

- that the problem could be low adrenal reserve and once your adrenals have

been properly treated, you will start to get back your normal health again. This

has been found to be the case in a lot of people who believe they have symptoms

of hypothyroidism, when their symptoms are actually low adrenal reserve.

You might feel better stopping the thyroxine for a while and

just treating your adrenals, but unfortunately, your GP will not agree with

this because they only recognise 's disease or Cushing's Syndrome (the

two extremes of adrenal problems) and do not recognise adrenal fatigue.

Luv - Sheila

Taking the half tablet seemed to make my T4

toxic symptoms worse i,e dizziness and having to clear my throat, however it did

seem to improve my blurred vision.

As I have an unusually busy week ahead at work I decided to stop taking the

Nutri Adrenal extra after my 1st dosage as I can't afford to feel more unwell

this week.

Just wonder what your thoughts are :-

Could it be that I'm still truly taking too much thyroxine and it is only once

I get my optimal level that I need to start introducing Nutri adrenal extra.

Would very much welcome your thoughts

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Hi Sheila,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

>

> When starting to take Nutri Adrenal Extra, you should stop any thyroid

> hormone replacement you have been taking for at least a week, before

> starting back on it on Day 8 of taking NAE. However, you should have not

> have experienced the symptoms you describe in such a few hours. Remind me

> again about how much levothyroxine you are taking and how long you have been

Over a number of months I have been reducing my Thyroxine from 100mcg, and

reached 62.5mcg which I've been on for more than 7 weeks, this week I reduced my

dosage further and am now on 56.25 (ie one 50mcg + one quarter 25mcg)

> NAE could well cause a 'thyroid dump' which would give you symptoms of

> thyroid toxicity. It may be that you are not in need of ANY thyroid hormone

> replacement - that the problem could be low adrenal reserve and once your

> adrenals have been properly treated, you will start to get back your normal

> health again. This has been found to be the case in a lot of people who

> believe they have symptoms of hypothyroidism, when their symptoms are

> actually low adrenal reserve.

Would low adrenal reserve produce the same thyroid lab results causing the GP to

think I had hypothyroidism? I thought that adrenal stress suppressed TSH not

increased it which was how I was originally diagnosed with hypothyroidism.

Would it be safe for me to stop my thyroxine for 7 days when I'm on such a low

dosage of thyroxine

Best wishes and thanks once again.