Candida results back from Genova and now I don't know what to deal with first!

[Guest guest]

Hi again

Just to recap:

I have low ferritin and have been prescribed iron tablets.

My last T4 and TSH levels were way out so I have had my Thyroxine dose

increased. The levels were fine a month before but I seem back to where I was

when first diagnosed now!

Magnesium level near bottom of range but ok.

Genova results indicate candida.

I know I need to go back to my GP and get free T3 and other minerals checked -

tbh I feel so ill this week, I can't face the resistance I know I will be up

against. I will go as soon as I feel able to argue with him!

But, am I right in thinking I need to prioritise the candida anyway? As no

amount of thyroid replacement will work before I get this under control?

So:

Start treating the candida with diet (and anti-fungal?)

Continue with the thyroxine (taken on empty stomach and hours apart from iron)

Continue iron

Continue vit C and B vits

Is it worth me getting the adrenal stress test done as well? A lot of the

symptoms overlap...?

Thanks in advance

Helen

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen:

Magnesium levels need to be at the top of the range, it's one thing that gets

missed a great deal. Your potassium and mag need to be at the top.

Your D3 levels need to be about 50. Vitamin B12 needs to be at the top of the

range. What are you taking for B vitamins? Are you taking a B complex which

includes all the B's? This is very important. Even if you are only taking one B

vitamin, you must also take a B vitamin complex to support the other B's.

Otherwise the B's will get out of sort and you won't feel good.

Everything, including the candida, will need to be addressed. One by one, each

one needs to be taken into account.

Cheers,

JOT

> Magnesium level near bottom of range but ok.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Helen

Have

a look at our forum web site http://health../group/thyroid treatment

and in the Menu, click on FILES. On the page that opens, scroll down to the

CANDIDA folder and read all the information you can take in there. There is a

lot there but it is extremely useful. Yes, you must prioritise the candida

treatment/diet and get this out of your system as quickly as you can - so you

will have to be very strict with yourself. I would get the 24 hour salivary

adrenal profile done too because if you are suffering with adrenal fatigue,

this too has to be treated as a priority. How much Magnesium (if any) are you

taking - it appears that all of essential vitamins/minerals are low in the

range. You need your GP to test all of the following and if s/he tries to tell

you there is no connection between low levels of these and thyroid disease,

then ask him/her to read the following studies. As you have had ferritin and

magnesium tested, you still need….

Low

vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low

vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low

magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low

folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low copper/zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

No amount of thyroid hormone can be properly utilised at the

cellular level until whatever is low is supplemented and brought up to where it

should be. When you get your test results, post them here on the forum together

with the reference range for each test done and we will help with the

interpretation.

As far as your thyroxine is concerned, if you are suffering with

'Type 2' Hypothyroidism, then levothyroxine alone will not help you.

Type 2 Hypothyroidism is

defined as deficiencies in the peripheral conversion of T4 to T3, the

subsequent reception of T3, and the use of T3 by the body's cells. Environmental

toxins may also cause or exacerbate the problem. The pervasiveness of Type 2

hypothyroidism has yet to be recognised by mainstream medicine but already is

in epidemic proportions. Type 2 hypothyroidism can be corrected by T3 hormone

replacement therapy - and not be thyroxine-only therapy. This ignored

hypothyroidism reduces the amount of the active thyroid hormone T3 in the body,

producing the same sort of symptoms that Type 1 hypothyroidism does.

Type 1 hypothyroidism, is defined as primary, secondary, and

tertiary hypothyroidism and is properly associated with insufficient

secretion by the thyroid gland, thereby reducing the

prohormone thyroxine (T4) available for conversion, to the active

hormone triiodothyronine (T3) to energise the body. The most

common cause originating within the thyroid gland is disease process. It would

however still be considered primary, secondary and tertiary hypothyroidism

(Type 1), even if it is due to a damaged gland, e.g. when damage is caused in

an accident or damaged due to excessive exposure to radioactivity. Type 1

Hypothyroidism may be corrected by using levothyroxine (T4-only) replacement.

Luv - Sheila

But, am I right in thinking I need to prioritise the candida anyway? As no

amount of thyroid replacement will work before I get this under control?

Start treating the candida with diet (and anti-fungal?)

Continue with the thyroxine (taken on empty stomach and hours apart from iron)

Continue iron

Continue vit C and B vits

Is it worth me getting the adrenal stress test done as well? A lot of the

symptoms overlap...?

Thanks in advance

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the replies. > Have a look at our FILES. I've trawled through them and I have a plan :-)> I would get the 24 hour> salivary adrenal profile done too because if you are suffering with adrenal> fatigue, this too has to be treated as a priority. I have the kit so I've started collecting the saliva for the test today, before I start taking fluconazole. > As far as your thyroxine is concerned, if you are suffering with 'Type 2' Hypothyroidism, then levothyroxine alone will not help you.Right now though, I need to deal with the candida and getting the minerals at the right levels? And then I can look at the thyroid issue, if it still exists? Does that seem sensible? Soo, moving forward...> it appears that all of essential vitamins/minerals are

> low in the range.

I think I can assume everything is low, even without the tests but an email is off to my GP today and I will make an appt for later this week. I will also push (again) for free T3 to be tested.I am currently taking (daily):Thyroxine 250mcgBerocca - Vit C 476mg (does this need to be higher, to help the iron?) Riboflavin 13.6mg Thiamin 10.4mg Niacin 45.3mg NE Vit B6 7.1mg Vit B12 8.6ug (These aren't enough on their own - I need a B vit complex?) Folic acid 366ug Biotin 130ug Panothenic acid 22.7mg Calcium 95mg Magnesium 95mg (does this need to be higher as I am so close to bottom of the test range?) Zinc 9mgI add 2 sachets of Spatone to this as iron tablets play havoc with my stomach. I am going to add lots of iron rich foods to my diet too.Should I be taking any other vits/minerals, ideally?My plan is to start the candida diet but can I double check these questions I've not cleared up from my reading, please? Take fluconazole as rec'd in the files. (Do I start this straight away? It seems to make the kill off symptoms worse - is that correct?)Take Caprylllic acid. (Do I start this straight away?)Take a probiotic (Do I start this straight away? I can't decide if this is for now, or after the candida has started to die off?)Any thoughts welcome as I'm struggling to get to grips with all this! I do feel less despair today - yesterday was a VERY low day for me :-(Now I just need to get on with it, I guess! Ho hum!Helen x