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Hi , don't forget- don't take your NDT for 24 hours before tests or you will get too high T3 reading and consequently an unnecassary dose cut. I have always found that taking a written history in with me- one copy each- keeps a consultation on track and is liked by the consultant and also makes sure that you get all questions answered- it's too easy to be side tracked otherwise and things forgotten- you can write his answers down as he speaks- that tends to concentrate the mind too. joint pain tends to be caused by unconverted T4 sitting in the joints- reducing or stopping T4 and using T3 instead helps, there may be too much T4 in the NDT for you and you my need to reduce it nd replace with some T3- see http://www.drlowe.com - you'll have to do a search when you get to the site as it's huge, but the info is there. > thyroid treatment > From: jtweed15@...> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:01:08 +0000> Subject: Seeing GP Thursday> > Got an appointment and am going to try to find the courage to speak up and ask for some tests...> I am mainly going to see him for the pain in my joints a.> > I envision him telling me the NDT is the cause of my pain...or some such nonsense. I plan to start with the pain bit...then tell him I've come off the Thyroxine and started taking NDT for the last three months (have been a bit longer but not much)> I will maybe put it in writing and ask them to be added to my notes. That way if he refuses and I end up doing them myself and something is wrong I have proof I asked.> > Cheers> > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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Well of course he'll tell you the NDT is the cause, you're giving him an excuse

before you even start. Did you have the same pain on Levothyroxine?

If you told the doctor you'd started eating cold custard and had pains he would

blame that....

I would go in to the doc, mention the pains and ask what he thinks it is, don't

mention any meds at all until he gives some sort of diagnosis. If he's a bit

non committal then ask him if he could measure your, D3, Iron, Folate, Ferritin,

copper and zinc. If he asks why then you can tell him that if these are low

they thyroid meds won't work and it may be the cause of the pains....

Don't just steam in telling him what you are taking... give him time to have a

go at giving a diagnosis.

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> Got an appointment and am going to try to find the courage to speak up and ask

for some tests...

> I am mainly going to see him for the pain in my joints as I was hoping to get

more time to think of what I want to say to him. But the aches and pains are

starting to interfere with my job so had to make the appointment sooner.

>

> I envision him telling me the NDT is the cause of my pain...or some such

nonsense. I plan to start with the pain bit...then tell him I've come off the

Thyroxine and started taking NDT for the last three months (have been a bit

longer but not much) and would like certain tests to make sure everything is

working properly.

>

> I will ask for the thyroid ones and see what he says about the vits and

mineral ones after I get his reaction. If he won't do the thyroid ones no point

in asking about the others I reckon...

> I will maybe put it in writing and ask them to be added to my notes. That way

if he refuses and I end up doing them myself and something is wrong I have proof

I asked.

>

> Wish me luck anyway..:-)

> I really hate confrontation...I feel so un-knowledgeable and don't feel like I

can refute anything he says. If this appointment ends up being a waste of time I

guess it will be time to find a new doc. I really hope he listens.

>

> Cheers

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>> Well of course he'll tell you the NDT is the cause, you're giving him an excuse before you even start. Did you have the same pain on Levothyroxine?Yes I did have the pain on Thyroxine ...But it is worse now. But I can't say for sure it wouldn't have gotten worse anyway even if I kept on T-4 only. It was gradual over the last year. I have had bouts of quite bad pains over the last several years but they lessen after a few weeks. Now it just seems to be getting worse.> I would go in to the doc, mention the pains and ask what he thinks it is, He already thinks it is synovitis.. he was going down the route of Rheumatoid Arthritis until the tests came back "normal"... If he's a bit non committal then ask him if he could measure your, D3, Iron, Folate, Ferritin, copper and zinc. If he asks why then you can tell him that if these are low they thyroid meds won't work and it may be the cause of the pains....> > Don't just steam in telling him what you are taking... give him time to have a go at giving a diagnosis.> > .

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Can you describe the pain and

where exactly you get it and is it there ALL the time or just comes on at

certain times or with certain activity. Is there anything in particular that

exacerbates it?

Luv - Sheila

Yes

I did have the pain on Thyroxine ...But it is worse now. But I can't say for

sure it wouldn't have gotten worse anyway even if I kept on T-4 only. It was

gradual over the last year. I have had bouts of quite bad pains over the

last several years but they lessen after a few weeks. Now it just seems to be

getting worse.

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