Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hello , Free T4 is now 11 (pretty low, off the bottom of the charts in some labs - some labs say 9-mid 20's, some say 12-mid 20's) TSH is 1.5 (quite low?) Total t3 is 1.6 (which I was told was within range) (I ASKED him specifically to do Free t3 so he either ignored me or wrote the wrong thing down) Total T3 is useless in reaching a diagnosis of hypothyroidism - you need a Free T3. Total T3 is done when reaching a diagnosis of hyperthyroidism, and certainly with your low TSH and low free T4 - that's out of the question. I eat a pretty clean diet of low carb, low sugar and limited dairy – no processed foods and I don't drink much, eat takeways, pizza or any junk food. Mainly meat, veg, a little fruit, nuts and seeds. My diet is as pure as it gets. So it's not that. Last year I lived in the mountains and skied every day for 4 months. Not even a dress size – toned up obviously but not loosing FAT. I play squash a few times a week, walk to and from work so moderately fit but it's extremely aggrevating my body won't respond to the changes I've made. The main reason I think there's a thyroid problem; #1 – I've always blamed my tiredness on my diagnosed narcolepsy. Historically it was only giving me a microsleep problem in the afternoon, once a day. With a low metabolism, you are physically unable to burn off excess calories - hence the reason why those suffering the symptoms of hypothyroidism gain weight and can't get rid of it. Now I find I'm tired when I get up, I'm tired at 9:30am at my desk – yesterday I went to the loos twice to induce a micro-sleep so I wouldn't fall asleep at my desk. Once I got home last night after playing squash and having my tea, I slept for a good 45 mins on the sofa. I then went to bed at 11pm. Got up at 8am. Will probably get tired again soo today #2 – the inability to lose any weight. The reason I don't put any on is due to my clean diet and activities but I still need to loose 3 dress sizes at least #3 – more noticeably recently – I've been know to be shivering under a 15 tog duvet wearing a fleece. I'm always the coldest person in the room, uncomfortably so. Everyone else seems warm. More symptoms that match – brittle, flaky nails, I personally feel my hair is slightly thinner. I'm sure there are more but can't be sure they are hypo related. How can I be hypo though with such low TSH? TSH is a useless test as there are so many problems associated with this test that make it completely unreliable. Please go to our FILES section which is accessible from the Home Page of this forum http://health./group.thyroid treatment and on the list that opens, click on the FOLDER TSH ~ What affects the level of TSH. Gather what information you need there and show your GP and endocrinologist. You would be better writing a letter to your GP setting out all of your symptoms and signs (check yours signs and symptoms against those listed in our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk under 'Hypothyroidism'. Most of the symptoms and signs are 'non-specific' to hypothyroidism but list them anyway. A list of more than 8 is an indication you do have symptoms of hypothyroidism. Take your basal temperature for 4 or 5 mornings before you get out of bed and list these if they are less than 97.8 degrees F. List any members of your family who have a thyroid or autoimmune disease. List the blood tests you want, i.e. a full thyroid function test to include TSH, free T4, free T3 and tests to see whether you have thyroid antibodies (TPO and TgAb). List also the following vitamin and mineral tests you need, to see whether any of these are low in the reference range. In case your GP or endocrinologist tries to tell you that there is no connection between these and low thyroid, then cite the references to the scientific evidence. Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)). 1. Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381. 2. SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9. 3. Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78. 4. Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778. Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403 Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329 and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738 and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163 Low copper/zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html Ask your GP for a referral to a good endocrinologists, and preferably one who does not have diabetes as his specialty. I will send you a list of doctors that have been recommended by my members as being prepared to prescribe T4/T3 combination therapy, T3 alone or natural thyroid extract (which means they know a little more about thyroid disease than those doctors who insist that everybody can regain optimal health on T4 ONLY therapy. Last, ask for your letter of requests to be placed into your medical notes, and make sure your GP knows that you are now determined to get to the bottom of your ill health. If you wish, send a copy to the Head of Practice too, and don't forget to keep a copy yourself in case you need to use this in the future. Hope this helps. Luv - Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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