Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Hi Ro, and welcome to our forum where I hope you get all the help and support you so obviously need. Do you live in the UK and if so, any chance you could see Dr Peatfield (one of our medical advisers) who has given back normal health to hundreds of our members. If you go to our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk and check out the right hand column under TPA News, you will find 'Dr Peatfield's Metabolic Clinic Updates'. There you can see where he has his clinics. There ARE a lot of excellent doctors in the NHS but unfortunately, when it comes to the metabolic system, and especially thyroid, their training at medical school leaves a lot to be desired. Many of us have found little help and we have been left with no other option than to take our thyroid health into our own hands. You would do well to buy Dr Peatfield's book " Your Thyroid and How to Keep it Healthy " where you will learn a lot, especially about all the different associated conditions that go along with the symptoms of hypothyroidism. You can buy this through Amazon, and you can do this through our web site so that TPA will get 5% of the cost. You will find the link to do this on the Home Page, again under TPA News - scroll down to " Buy Anything from Amazon " . You need to get some blood tests done and post the results here together with the reference range for each test done. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER allow a doctor to tell you that your results are within the 'normal range' therefore you do not have a problem. Again, doctors are not taught how to interpret results. You need to get TSH, free T4, free T3 and tests to see whether you have any thyroid antibodies. These are TPO and TgAb. Ask also for your GP to check your levels of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. What medication/supplements are you taking right now. Luv - Sheila Hi all. I am new and have hypothyroidism: After the specialist I was trusting with my health over medicated me and caused me to be hyper I stopped taking any meds and have not seen a thyroid DR. since, my hormone doctor tested me and that is how I fond out about the hyper, I was in such bad shape I thought I would have killed anyone that looked at me sideways. I no longer trust any onf them. I am not doing so good right now. I had been doing fine but lately I find I am not feeling well again, I also have Lupus but that also is not a big deal for me. I need a doctor, one that I can trust, how do you all find a trusted dr. that I can trust? Any ideas? I checked out some Endo's today but I am not very trusting these days. Ro Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Thank you very much for your support and I will check out the book. My problem is I do not have a doctor I trust, I was hoping to find one through someone in here. I do not take anything for my thyroid, Thyromine used to help me but I am not sure anymore.I was doing great by myself, my eyebrows grew in, I was feeling good but suddenly everything fell apart,, my temp this morning was 96.7 and I never feel cold but I do now. I live in the USA, I did not know this was a UK site. I had to threaten to leave the doctor if he didn’t test me, he did a few times and finally we got the results that mattered. They all refuse to test the way I want, it is an insult to them that I know more than them. They will not give Armour, except for the one that over medicated me and I am not going back to him. I will have to keep trying. I do not know what else to do I am not a complainer but I am so sick I can hardly function at this point. this week was the first time ever that I stayed home because I was afraid to drive. Ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Where are you in the States, RO? I'm in Santa Fe, I could recommend a Dr here. (Not fabulous DR but much better than most.) I self treat because that is the only way I will remain healthy. I go to my DR just for tests and I tell her what I want tested. I always get a copy of my blood labs so I'll have something to work with.... Cheers, JOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Hi JOT, Please don't answer this if you don't want to, but I was wondering how easy it is for you to self-treat in the States where the law on prescription drugs is pretty strict compared to, say, the UK. Best wishes, Tracey > > > I'm in Santa Fe > > I self treat because that is the only way I will remain healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 I'm on natural thyroid meds which are easily bought online without a prescription, so no worries there. I self treat my thyroid issues. But really, as far as I know, when has Pig Porcine ever been illegal? It makes no sense that it is a prescription, that's just manipulating and control. :0) I use my DR for bio-identical hormone drops because the place that makes them in TN require a script for them, and I like these drops the best. I can buy progesterone,estradiol, and testosterone also without a script, but I prefer the other drops better. I use wild oil of oregano for any bacterial issue that may come up where antibiotics may be needed. I use Isocort for adrenals when I need it which is also easily bought online without a script. My DR has recently gone insane and I believe she has lost a great deal of her memory. Last month I was in and she was squawking about a lot of nonsense. I just let her go on and on and pretend to take notes and ask her a few questions so she'll feel important and powerful. I've become a great actress. Are we talking academy award? Yes, I think so. LOL :0) Cheers, JOT > Hi JOT, > Please don't answer this if you don't want to, but I was wondering how easy it is for you to self-treat in the States where the law on prescription drugs is pretty strict compared to, say, the UK. > Best wishes, > Tracey > > I'm in Santa Fe > > > > I self treat because that is the only way I will remain healthy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I live in the USA, I did not know this was a UK site. Ro -- There are several thyroid groups in the States, including several individual state ones. Texas has a particularly good one, with meetings and frequent email messages. Where are you? I am an American living in France and have dealt with Hashimoto's on three continents. I read more than on forum: US, UK and European. I take five grains of Erfa Thyroid, which I order on the Internet. Fibrojay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 TPA is not a UK site - it is International. The registered office is based in the UK and we started out with UK members on the forum, but as time went on, it grew and grew and we now have members from all corners of the globe. Luv - Sheila I live in the USA, I did not know this was a UK site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hi Ro, http://www.thyroidabout.com/topdrs may be of help in finding one who is more supportive- but do check with the docs office first as I've heard that this list can be out of date/misleading due to change in attitudes. If you need lab testing I believe there is one called Great Smokies that may be of help so you can get TSH FT4 and FT3 tested. If you thyroid has failed and you do not take thyroxine ( not usre what 'Thromine contains) then you will get worse, even if it is not the optimum meds for you. it is liothyronine ( T3) that is the active hormone and not all of us can make use of the inert thyroxine (T4). thyroid treatment From: rosewood513@...Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:44:41 -0400Subject: Re: Hi, I am a newbie My problem is I do not have a doctor I trust, I was hoping to find one through someone in here. I do not take anything for my thyroid, Thyromine used to help me but I am not sure anymore.I was doing great by myself, my eyebrows grew in, I was feeling good but suddenly everything fell apart,, my temp this morning was 96.7 and I never feel cold but I do now. I live in the USA, I did not know this was a UK site. I had to threaten to leave the doctor if he didn’t test me, he did a few times and finally we got the results that mattered. They all refuse to test the way I want, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hi Jot; I hope you don't mind if I ask as question as well please. Can you tell me where you can source Testosterone without a script? At the moment I get mine from Australia but it is hideously expensive.Please contact me privately if you feel it necessary. Kind regards Jane > > I'm on natural thyroid meds which are easily bought online without a prescription, so no worries there. I self treat my thyroid issues. But really, as far as I know, when has Pig Porcine ever been illegal? It makes no sense that it is a prescription, that's just manipulating and control. :0) > > I use my DR for bio-identical hormone drops because the place that makes them in TN require a script for them, and I like these drops the best. I can buy progesterone,estradiol, and testosterone also without a script, > > > > > Hi JOT, > > Please don't answer this if you don't want to, but I was wondering how easy it is for you to self-treat in the States where the law on prescription drugs is pretty strict compared to, say, the UK. > > Best wishes, > > Tracey > > > > I'm in Santa Fe > > > > > > I self treat because that is the only way I will remain healthy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Hi Jane: Yes, I was thinking about the Australian testosterone when I mentioned that....I will look around and see if I find anything and ask at my natural food store to see if they know of any others. Since I've used the prescription drops for the past 7 years, I haven't researched it recently. If I find something, I'll let you know. Cheers, JOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Thanks for the reply, JOT. Do you order your thyroid meds from outside the US? I was wondering what could happen if a parcel containing what the US constitutes prescription meds, say T3 or natural thyroid (and you're right about manipulation and control), was stopped at customs... > > I'm on natural thyroid meds which are easily bought online without a prescription, so no worries there. I self treat my thyroid issues. But really, as far as I know, when has Pig Porcine ever been illegal? It makes no sense that it is a prescription, that's just manipulating and control. :0) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I have ordered my meds from Thailand, Canada, Australia with no problems whatsoever. The post man just puts them in my box and I usually need to sign a slip saying I received them...there have never been any problems or questions asked. There are thousands of us who do this every week so it's nothing new. No one will be handcuffing you or taking you to jail, if that's your concern.... :0) Actually people have been ordering prescription meds from Canada for years....so customs doesn't know what's in the package and I honestly don't think US customs gets involved with these packages at all. It may be scary for you the first time, but that will be your own nerves.... We have ridiculous rules in the US. I don't know if this is still the case, but as far as my dogs and heartworm pills, they used to make us take our dogs in for a blood test for heartworm every year before they would give us more heartworm medication. It stands to reason that if your dog is on heartworm medication every month without missing a beat, than the dogs do not have heartworm. (Also we don't have mosquitos) I got around that by ordering heartworm pills from AU. They are cheaper, they are better and I don't worry about unnecessary blood work and having needles stuck in my poor babies without cause.. It's all how you see it I guess. I'm not much of a game player, and all this stuff is just a big game. :0) Cheers, JOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Hi JOT, I totally agree about the ridiculous rules - the story about your dogs is a perfect example. I am here on a visa so my nervousness about ordering online is mainly to do with jeopardising that. I'm sure nothing would happen but there's always that " what if... " On the other hand, it infuriates me that I could order a supply of T3 that would last me ten months for the same price as one month's prescription from the local pharmacy... Tracey > No one will be handcuffing you or taking you to jail, if that's your concern.... :0) It may be scary for you the first time, but that will be your own nerves.... > > We have ridiculous rules in the US. they used to make us take our dogs in for a blood test for heartworm every year before they would give us more heartworm medication. > > > Cheers, > JOT > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Hi Tracey: Yup, it's crazy out there. One thing I really like with the UK is that everything seems to be computerized and so patients get a copy of what the DR says about the appointment. One thing DRs do here in the States, is *NOT TAKING NOTES.* My DR doesn't have anything computerized and she also does not write down in my file what we talk about. This is something they have started doing the past 5 years or so. The reason they don't write anything down, is so that if a problem arises they can say *I DON'T HAVE THAT IN MY NOTES.* Suggesting that if it is not in their notes, then the patient must be wrong. If the patient is wrong, a lawsuit can not ensue.... Just more of the same rot... :0) Cheers, JOT Hi JOT, I totally agree about the ridiculous rules - the story about your dogs is a perfect example. > I am here on a visa so my nervousness about ordering online is mainly to do with jeopardising that. I'm sure nothing would happen but there's always that " what if... " > On the other hand, it infuriates me that I could order a supply of T3 that would last me ten months for the same price as one month's prescription from the local pharmacy... > Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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