Re: Not been well since just before Christmas

[Guest guest]

were you 'ok' on old armour?

chris

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> Hi everyone,

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> I have been ill with colds, coughs and chest infections since just before

Christmas. I just can't seem to regain my health and energy. I am taking Erfa,

and before that, Nature Throid, but I don't seem to have being doing well since

the Armour shortage.

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

I had a similar experience and in the end decided to take T3 on its own. I

didn't test for rT3 but just changed over to T3 starting on a low dose. It was

definitely the answer as I have lost weight and the pains all over my body has

lifted.

The only thing is T3 on it own is very harsh on the adrenals so it would be

important to do a test to check adrenal function.

You can read about this on Nick's website

http://thyroid-rt3.com/

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hello Anne - long time no hear!

Ask your GP to test your levels of ferritin, vitamin B12,

vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc and also ask him to test your

blood to see if you have thyroid antibodies too. It is possible you might be

suffering with other conditions such as low adrenal reserve, systemic

candidiasis, mercury poisoning caused through amalgam fillings etc that is

stopping the thyroid hormone from working which must be tested and addressed

before the thyroid hormone can work.

OR - it might simply be that you need to increase your dose of

Erfa. This should be increased every three weeks by half a grain (30mgs) until

you find the dose your body is happy with and you should not be titrating your

dose according to the results of any serum thyroid function tests. You will

find the dose you need one morning, a couple of hours or so after taking your

latest increase, by finding you are getting palpitations, feeling dizzy,

sweating, feeling 'spaced out' and generally hyPER. That shows you have taken

too much. The feeling will leave you after a couple of hours or so. Don't take

any more thyroid med. that day, but the following day, go back onto the dose

you were on before your latest increase - and THAT is usually the dose your

body requires, probably for the rest of your life.

Hope this helps.

Luv - Sheila

Hi everyone,

I have been ill with colds, coughs and chest infections since just before

Christmas. I just can't seem to regain my health and energy. I am taking Erfa,

and before that, Nature Throid, but I don't seem to have being doing well since

the Armour shortage.

I am getting really depressed because I have pains all over my body just to

make matters worse. Anyone got any suggestions - apart from asking the vet to

end it all for me!!

Anne xx

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy, sorry to butt in here but I'd love to hear more about your experience.

I switched from erfa over to t3 only 10 days ago also without having the actual

rt3 test. Could you tell me more about what you switched from, how you dosed and

how you felt along the way. When did you start losing weight? Thanks!

>

> I had a similar experience and in the end decided to take T3 on its own. I

didn't test for rT3 but just changed over to T3 starting on a low dose. It was

definitely the answer as I have lost weight and the pains all over my body has

lifted.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Having found Sheila, TPA and Dr P I started on a journey of regaining my health.

Over the last two years I have switched from Levothyroxine (still hypothyroid)

to first old Armour which I felt well on. Then new formula Armour and I became

hypo again. Next I tried Greater Pharma thyroid which was good at first but I

started to feel hypo again and it took me a while to work it out. I tried adding

T3 to NDT but still didn't get feel any better. I thought it could be rT3 soI

decided to give just T3 a go.

As I also have low adrenal function and having tried to get this diagnosed by

the NHS endo, I decided to take HC having tried adrenal support and granulars to

either no effect or not suiting me.

So 12 weeks before Christmas 2010 I made the switch to T3 following Nicks advice

on

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I was a bit worried as to how I would feel at Christmas but I was ok. I just

kept an eye on my temperature and pulse and dose accordingly.

As Nicks says you get a feel for T3 and if you have taken to much. If I take too

much I get a strange feeling across the bridge of my nose and my vision is a bit

blurred and I feel agitated with people and TV which is not me at all. So then I

don't take anymore that day.

It is a bit trial and error.

The weight just came off gradually over the first 3 months even over Christmas.

I haven't changed what I eat but I am not as hungry so maybe I have eaten a

little less. Nice way to lose weight though. One stone down 2 more to go.

I started on 16th October by switching from from one and a half NDT (Efra) and

25mcg T3 to 50 mcg T3 taken in 4 doses and HC 7.5 mg split in 3 doses. I

increased the HC to 15mg in 4 doses. by week 5 I had lost 7lbs.

I did slowly increase the T3 to 75mcg but I haven't put that in my dairy so I am

not sure when exactly but it was before the 12 weeks.

For now I am staying on T3 but may try NDT again at some point.

Judy

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> > I had a similar experience and in the end decided to take T3 on its own. I

didn't test for rT3 but just changed over to T3 starting on a low dose. It was

definitely the answer as I have lost weight and the pains all over my body has

lifted.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Judy, Thanks for taking the time to share all of that with me. Its great to

hear positive stories, esp as I'm in a fairly similar situation to what you

were. I hope I have the same success and yours continues.

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> Hi ,

>

> Having found Sheila, TPA and Dr P I started on a journey of regaining my

health.

>

> Over the last two years I have switched from Levothyroxine (still hypothyroid)

to first old Armour which I felt well on. Then new formula Armour and I became

hypo again. Next I tried Greater Pharma thyroid which was good at first but I

started to feel hypo again and it took me a while to work it out. I tried adding

T3 to NDT but still didn't get feel any better. I thought it could be rT3 soI

decided to give just T3 a go.

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

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> Hello Anne - long time no hear!

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> Ask your GP to test your levels of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3,

> magnesium, folate, copper and zinc and also ask him to test your

>

Hi Sheila,

Thanks again for the advice. My " sympathic " GP retired last September, so I now

have to " train " a new GP! I will make an appointment to see the new man and see

what can be done. The good thing is new GP seems like he wants to do the best

for you.

You might be interested to learn that Debra is struggling too.

Just on another note - what do we do about booking for the Get Together?

Love,

Anne xx

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne, sorry to hear that both you and Debra are still going

through it - boy, am I glad that I don't live in Leeds where the whole

endocrinology specialists there are active members of British Thyroid

Association. I know of nobody who is experiencing thyroid problems, either in

being diagnosed or treated properly who is being offered any hope of ever

getting better around that city because of their stick in the mud protocols.

Let us know your results when you get them back and we will help

with their interpretation.

The next TPA Conference is Saturday, 11th June at 'The Black

Horse', High Street, Skipton in West Yorkshire. If you wish to book a place,

let me know and tell me how many places you need. Details are in our Christmas

Newsletter (see our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk

under 'TPA News'.

Luv - Sheila

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> Hello Anne - long time no hear!

>

> Ask your GP to test your levels of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3,

> magnesium, folate, copper and zinc and also ask him to test your

>

Hi Sheila,

Thanks again for the advice. My " sympathic " GP retired last

September, so I now have to " train " a new GP! I will make an

appointment to see the new man and see what can be done. The good thing is new

GP seems like he wants to do the best for you.

You might be interested to learn that Debra is struggling too.

Just on another note - what do we do about booking for the Get Together?

Love,

Anne xx

[Guest guest]

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> Hi Anne, sorry to hear that both you and Debra are still going through it -

Hi Sheila,

Yes - we do seem to be struggling in Leeds! I have discharged myself from

Harrogate with the proviso that the doctor write to my GP giving them the ok to

adjust my Erfa (or whatever) dosage to suit my symptoms. I can only trust that

they did this. It seems that you can still get a combined treatment there, but

you have to " prove " your case and more recently you are more likely to get

synthetic T4 and T3.

I don't know what the answer is - unless we can get a celebrity to come out of

the closet and be a spokesperson, we will have an unending uphill battle. We

need someone like Joanna Lumley - look what she did for the Gurkhas! Janet Ellis

has acknowledged she had " thyroid problems " - don't know of anyone else in the

UK.

I will keep you posted on my progress with new GP. Can't see him at the moment

as I have lost my voice!!! I will update you on Debra too.

Luv,

Anne xx