RE: Had blood taken today!

[Guest guest]

If anybody needs to " justify " why the vitamins and

minerals we recommend be tested if you are suffering with symptoms of

hypothyroidism - then show your doctor the following

We

recommend that all members should ask their GP or endocrinologist test the

following to see whether any of the results are returned low within the

reference range. This is because if low, thyroid hormone is unable to get into

the cells, either your own, or through thyroid hormone replacement.

Should

your GP or endocrinologist tell you that there is no connection between these

minerals or vitamin levels and hypothyroidism, then copy the following links

out to show him/her

Good

luck!

Low

iron/ferritin:

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase

reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties

of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron

saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished

intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate

thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)).

1.

Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron

deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative

and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381.

2.

SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic

thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat.

Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3.

Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium

Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to

Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78.

4.

Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone

Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778.

Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low  copper/zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

From: thyroid treatment

[mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of hellytay71

Sent: 04 April 2011 12:44

thyroid treatment

Subject: Had blood taken today!

Well, I had the blood taken today and forgot

the slip he gave me last week. I thought I'd have to return but the nurse said

she could do all that was there anyway.

But (here's the good bit), she actually filled in copper and zinc on the form

too!! He had refused to test those unless I can justify them, so fingers

crossed I have managed to bypass him (unwittingly!) and will get them done

anyway! :-D

I think she may also have put vitamin B12, but I know for certain she put the

other two.

She didn't write free T4 though and looked a little antsy when I reminded her

it should be there. She didn't write it down but I didn't push it as I don't

want her checking with the GP!

The annoying thing is, I was looking at my records and the GP has written:

" More likely to be a recurrence of depression than a thyroid

problem " !!! Cheeky so and so!!!! GRRRR!

I have also sent for the candida and adrenal stress profile test kits from Genova,

so will soon have a fairly good overview of what's going on, I hope.

Watch this space!

Helen

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[Guest guest]

Helen I am sorry but I would have to challenge him on that remark - I was told prior to being diagnosed with Lupus by my GP - who I had actually got on very well with for some 20 years - that I was a hypochondriac - the Lupus was actually considered as a possibility by another GP the very next evening in the same surgery - when she was called into the Nurses room where they had been taking blood from me and my inner arm swelled up like a golf ball. I said to the nurse Oh don't worry about that some very strange things are happening to me at the moment - she said I'm sorry but that is very serious I cannot leave it I am going to call a Dr - I started crying please don't call Dr ????? as he says I am imagining all these things I was panic stricken that he would chastise me again. A lovely lady Dr came in carrying her handbag and coat ready to go home when she was called in - she took one look at my arm and said My Office NOW.

She examined me and listened to me for nearly an hour bless her heart even though she should have gone home - it was about 7.30 pm - she told me that she suspected it could be serious - sent me for tests etc and I later had the Lupus diagnosed by a kidney biopsy - so she was right. She knew about Lupus because her best friend had died of it - and she had written a Thesis when at medical school on the subject. So guardian angels were looking after me that day. The swelling of the arm was due to connective tissue disease AND I had Syndrome at that time where my blood was so sticky when I cut myself it was like pulling chewing gum - it was this I had gone to the other GP about saying there was something wrong with my blood.

The nice GP told me not to ever see the other one again - but I made an appointment with him one day when I felt a bit stronger and he said Oh I thought we had lost you (meaning I had left his practice) Oh I said how prophetic Dr - do you remember calling me a hypochondriac - he went bright red - I said well actually I was dying from Lupus - he said we did every blood test we could do - I said yes except the right one and stormed out slamming the door behind me.

I am lucky to be alive - not only did I have Lupus but also low thyroid - how my blood kept going around my body I don't know especially with . Thank God I took vitamin supplements that kept my blood as thin as possible during that time.

I don't know whether I would recommend such angry confrontation today - as this was about 16 years ago before the signs saying ' you can't upset anyone or you will be banned' so be careful - but don't allow that to go in your file. It is atrocious.

Best wishes

Mandy

[Guest guest]

So long as enough blood was taken for the copper and zinc then

this should be fine - but they DO need a lot of blood to do these two tests -

mine didn't get done when these were first requested and when I asked why, was

told insufficient blood had been drawn, so they wrote me another blood request

form for just those two tests, which were done. You really need ferritin, B12,

D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc to ensure all their levels are well within

the reference range.

Wait and see exactly what results you get back and be sure to

get the reference range for each test done and post them on the forum so we can

help with their interpretation. If other tests still need to be done, we can

take it from there at the time.

It does sound as if your GP knows little to nothing about those

with symptoms of hypothyroidism, so perhaps you might be able to help his

education in this field.

Luv - Sheila

But (here's the good bit), she actually filled in copper and zinc on the form

too!! He had refused to test those unless I can justify them, so fingers

crossed I have managed to bypass him (unwittingly!) and will get them done

anyway! :-D

I think she may also have put vitamin B12, but I know for certain she put the

other two.

She didn't write free T4 though and looked a little antsy when I reminded her

it should be there. She didn't write it down but I didn't push it as I don't

want her checking with the GP!

The annoying thing is, I was looking at my records and the GP has written:

" More likely to be a recurrence of depression than a thyroid

problem " !!! Cheeky so and so!!!! GRRRR!

I have also sent for the candida and adrenal stress profile test kits from

Genova, so will soon have a fairly good overview of what's going on, I hope.

Watch this space!

Helen