bio-identical hormone replacement therapy?

[Guest guest]

Can someone tell me what vs. bio-identical hormone replacement

therapy is? I've read about this, but am not sure how this is

different from Conventional HRT. From what I understand

Conventional uses both animal and synthetic hormones, and bio-

identical uses plant based hormones, or am I wrong on this? I

would like to hear others knowledge and experience with this and

how it compares to Conventional. Are there bio-identical

hormones for the thyroid and adrenals?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

So is it possible to otain bio-id HRT then? Would certainly like an alternative to think about . . . .

[Guest guest]

hey joe (isn't that the first line in a song from long ago?)

as far as i know, bio-identical means that from a molecular standpoint the

hormones are the same as would be produced by the human body, bio-identical =

only hormones that are found in the human body.

for example, the birth control pill can contain progestin and progestin is a

synthetic progesterone but it is not molercularly identical to the progesterone

producued by the body ...these non bio-identical progestins (or other hormones)

almost fit the receptor sites for the natural hormone but in reality (imo) they

cause a great deal of problems.

conventional hrt often uses hormones that are made from keeping mares constantly

pregnant in order to use their urine...apart from the ethics of such an

appalling practice, the estrogen produced is very suitable only if you are

horse.

thyroxine (t4) is bio-identical ...it has the exact same molecular structure to

what the thyroid gland produces ...ditto for natural dessicated thyroid extract

only in this case it comes from (usually) a pig whereas thyroxine is made in a

laboratory somewhere.

i don't know for sure but i am assuming that adrenal glandulars are also

bio-identical (nutri adrenal)and in this case they come bovine sources so would

be termed natural. there may well be synthetic but bio-identical adrenal

glandulars too.

these's quite a bit of debate about the claims of superior safety of using

bio-identical hormones versus non-bioidentical ...i've no knowledge of that but

i would suspect that all safety issues are related to keeping the correct

balance/ratios of x, y or z hormone.

because bio-identical hormones are found in nature they cannot be patented and

that is the reason why, in the contraceptive pill example, the pharamaceutical

companies took their model from the wild yam (diosegenin i think)and buggered

about with it to produce the patentable money making and health destroying

contraceptive pill.

i hope what i've written isn't as clear as mud!

trish

>

> Can someone tell me what vs. bio-identical hormone replacement

> therapy is? I've read about this, but am not sure how this is

> different from Conventional HRT. From what I understand

> Conventional uses both animal and synthetic hormones, and bio-

> identical uses plant based hormones, or am I wrong on this? I

> would like to hear others knowledge and experience with this and

> how it compares to Conventional. Are there bio-identical

> hormones for the thyroid and adrenals?

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mBjG9chIFw

Yep!

Mo

ps don't think bio-identical progesterone cream is available from NHS but it

and Oestrogel (Ibio oestrogen) you can get on NHS or buy privately as I do as my

GP is a total prat and says I am already overmedicated by taking thyroid

hormones when I am noy hyoT so he is not going to add to this imbalance by

prescribing me Oestrogel. I am sure your GP will be more helpful, I have the GP

from hell, well a lot of us have one of those, are we soooo lucky

> hey joe (isn't that the first line in a song from long ago?)

>

> as far as i know, bio-identical means that from a molecular standpoint the

hormones are the same as would be produced by the human body, bio-identical =

only hormones that are found in the human body.

>

> for example, the birth control pill can contain progestin and progestin is a

synthetic progesterone but it is not molercularly identical to the progesterone

producued by the body ...these non bio-identical progestins (or other hormones)

almost fit the receptor sites for the natural hormone but in reality (imo) they

cause a great deal of problems.

>

> conventional hrt often uses hormones that are made from keeping mares

constantly pregnant in order to use their urine...apart from the ethics of such

an appalling practice, the estrogen produced is very suitable only if you are

horse.

>

> thyroxine (t4) is bio-identical ...it has the exact same molecular structure

to what the thyroid gland produces ...ditto for natural dessicated thyroid

extract only in this case it comes from (usually) a pig whereas thyroxine is

made in a laboratory somewhere.

>

> i don't know for sure but i am assuming that adrenal glandulars are also

bio-identical (nutri adrenal)and in this case they come bovine sources so would

be termed natural. there may well be synthetic but bio-identical adrenal

glandulars too.

>

> these's quite a bit of debate about the claims of superior safety of using

bio-identical hormones versus non-bioidentical ...i've no knowledge of that but

i would suspect that all safety issues are related to keeping the correct

balance/ratios of x, y or z hormone.

>

> because bio-identical hormones are found in nature they cannot be patented and

that is the reason why, in the contraceptive pill example, the pharamaceutical

companies took their model from the wild yam (diosegenin i think)and buggered

about with it to produce the patentable money making and health destroying

contraceptive pill.

>

> i hope what i've written isn't as clear as mud!

>

> trish

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Can someone tell me what vs. bio-identical hormone replacement

> > therapy is? I've read about this, but am not sure how this is

> > different from Conventional HRT. From what I understand

> > Conventional uses both animal and synthetic hormones, and bio-

> > identical uses plant based hormones, or am I wrong on this? I

> > would like to hear others knowledge and experience with this and

> > how it compares to Conventional. Are there bio-identical

> > hormones for the thyroid and adrenals?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

[Guest guest]

oh OOPS, told you m y brain was not well, I am now answering posts from a v v v

long time ago...

God have mercy on me and the torturers who did this to me.

Mo

>

> So is it possible to otain bio-id HRT then? Would certainly like an

> alternative to think about . . . .

>