Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 If previously auto antibodies were 'normal' you should keep getting them tested because when you tested 'normal' that might have been when the auto antibodies were doing nothing and were not attacking your thyroid, so you would have had a normal result. However, at another time, the antibodies might have been 'active' which could well have given you a different result. Try boosting your gluten intake for a couple of weeks before you have your antibodies tested in order to heighten the autoimmune response. It depends on whether you want to be tested to see the level of thyroid hormone that is in the blood, or whether you want to test the amount of thyroid hormone your body has actually used, which would involve the 24 hour urine test. I am not even sure I understand the question properly Kookie. Can you explain in more detail. Luv - Sheila Which would be the cheapest in terms of tests excluding TSH & T4 (done by GP)? Previously, auto antibodies were " normal " Thanks Kookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Basically, am feeling very ill. My latest results show TSH of 4.04 & FT4 of 8.7 What does this means exactly? Does it mean that I am not producing thyroid hormones? Which ones? I am confused, despite reading Dr Peatfield and Dr Budd's book. My GP is not interested in doing the FT3 and other tests. saying that I am " subclinical " hypo. The symptoms are very severe, my eyelashes are falling out, and severe arrythmia etc... overweight, dry skin and more. I phoned a lab in London today. They will do a whole thyroid panel for me, for £70, TSH, FT4 & FT3 for £50. Should I ask for the 24 hour urine test to see how much the body is using thyroid hormone? How useful is this? What does it mean? I am just not sure what tests I should do, in view of my severe symptoms. Basically, I need to find out what is happening so that I can choose which vits/herbs/supps etc to start on. I am not able to metabolize Thyroixine, Armour and other meds. Many thanks, K > > If previously auto antibodies were 'normal' you should keep getting them > tested because when you tested 'normal' that might have been when the auto > antibodies were doing nothing and were not attacking your thyroid, so you > would have had a normal result. However, at another time, the antibodies > might have been 'active' which could well have given you a different result. > > > Try boosting your gluten intake for a couple of weeks before you have your > antibodies tested in order to heighten the autoimmune response. > > It depends on whether you want to be tested to see the level of thyroid > hormone that is in the blood, or whether you want to test the amount of > thyroid hormone your body has actually used, which would involve the 24 hour > urine test. I am not even sure I understand the question properly Kookie. > Can you explain in more detail. > > Luv - Sheila > > > > > > > > > Which would be the cheapest in terms > of tests excluding TSH & T4 (done by GP)? > > Previously, auto antibodies were " normal " > > Thanks > > Kookie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 HI, without the ranges it's difficult to tell exactly, but given the usual range for T4 is somewhere between 9 - 21 it looks as though you don't have enough t4, so the TSH has risen in order to get the thyroid to produce more t4 and t3. A normal tsh is 1. I would think it is fairly pointless doing a urine test to see how much thyroid hormone the body is using, if it doesn't have enough in the first place. It's worth having the thyroid antibodies checked, to see if that is the cause of your failing thyroid. And I would ask for a rferral to an endo, a tsh of over 4, with low t4 is not sub-clinical, the doctor is being silly. > > > My latest results show TSH of 4.04 & FT4 of 8.7 > What does this means exactly? > > My GP is not interested in doing the FT3 and other tests. > saying that I am " subclinical " hypo. > > The symptoms are very severe, my eyelashes are falling out, > and severe arrythmia etc... overweight, dry skin and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 MODERATED TO REMOVE PREVIOUS MESSAGES ALREADY READ. PLEASE CHECK THAT YOU HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE CLICKING 'SEND' AND LEAVE JUST A SMALL PORTION OF WHAT YOU ARE RESPONDING TO. LUV - SHEILA _______________________________________________________________ My GP adheres strictly to the NHS guidelines, which means the TSH is " normal " He will not refer me to an endo. No choice but to learn how to deal with this myself. Which are the basic tests I should do for now? Thanks > > > It's worth having the thyroid antibodies checked, to see if that is the cause of your failing thyroid. And I would ask for a rferral to an endo, a tsh of over 4, with low t4 is not sub-clinical, the doctor is being silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Forgot to add that the ref range for my TSH 4.04 ref range of 0.32-5.00 my F T4 8.7 ref range of 7.5-21.00 I suppose this is why my GP labeled me as being subclinical despite severe symptoms!! I am thinking of doing: TSH, Free T4, Free T3, and TPO possibly a couple of others. Anything else that would be helpful? , > > without the ranges it's difficult to tell exactly, but given the usual range for T4 is somewhere between 9 - 21 it looks as though you don't have enough t4, so the TSH has risen in order to get the thyroid to produce more t4 and t3. A normal tsh is 1. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks for your input and comments. LOL, I have done all you usggested. I have to get a grip on this before it kills me, literally!! I became hypo following a reaction to a prescribed med, and read published papers on how it causes damage to receptors binding thyroid hormones etc.. fluoroquinolones antibiotics are associated with causing thyroid issues and other related quinolones. To complicate matter further, I am severely allergic and add to this inability to metabolize many compounds that uses CPYs 450, 3A4, etc... heart failure, and so on. I am looking at Ayurvedic compounds of which two are used to treat hypothyroidism, and also TCM, and more. I read of some improving after taking Iodine, and nutritive support, and others taking bovine hormones. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Hi there, as you are into support supplements I thought you may like to join group called Willis protocols run by a carol Willis. it is not a forum,more a lot of files and links which most of us would find helpful. she has a lot of info on TCM(traditional Chinese medicine ) and a lot of info on supporting the thyroid and adrenals. Willis_protocols Angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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