RE: Re: Why Patient Counterexamples Are Important

[Guest guest]

The centre is The British Thyroid Association - now hiding under

the umbrella of the 'untouchable' Royal Charter (the Royal College of

Physicians) along with all the other Endocrine/Thyroid Institutions. I think we

should all shout this from the rooftops, VERY loud and VERY clear. I am

certainly not afraid to do this, because we have sent ALL of them references to

the masses of scientific evidence that show them they are wrong, wrong, and

wrong again in their recommendations regarding the diagnosing and treatment of

the symptoms of hypothyroidism, asking them to amend their guidelines and

statements accordingly, but they refuse point blank to do so, and fail

abysmally to cite references to back up any one single statement they have

made. Even the Secretary of the President of the RCP wrote to me to tell me

that the President has stated that he would not be entering into any further

discussion regarding the subject of hypothyroidism.

Should doctors DARE to diagnose and treat out side of their

recommendations, heaven help them - and doctors know this. We have doctors

actually telling their patients that they dare not do so because they do not

want to lose their career and livelihood. I am quite happy to point my finger

in their direction because we DO have such scientific evidence which can be

produced in any court - should that day come….

The several studies that were carried out involved 900

participants that showed that T4/T3 combination did NOT work better than

T4-only therapy. We now have 912 counterexamples on our TPA Register to

show that T4-only therapy did NOT work, and that it was only when these

patients started some form of T3 therapy, either in addition to T4 or T3 only,

that their symptoms were mitigated or went away completely. Somebody, somewhere

had better start listening to us, the patients.

Luv - Sheila

Hi -as far as I see GPs are not to perscribe T3

without permission of an endo . However endos do and therefore a small group of

doctors [many not specialist ] have the health of a large part of the

population in there hands. I think however there are just a small number of

endos at the centre of this and the rest follow . It would be interesting to

know who[which endos] really are at the centre of this - as this is really a

rediculous situation.

[Guest guest]

So what are the BTA, RCP, BTF frightened of to let the doctors prescribe T3 etc.   LilianOn 30 April 2011 23:45, glynisrose06 <arianrhod@...> wrote:

I don't think its all to do with money, there is a huge amount of fear too.  Doctors are afraid to treat patients properly because of such agencies as the BTA RCP BTF etc who stand ready to beat them with a big stick!!

It has been decided without any patient input or regard to referenced material / clinical trials / medical investigations, that the status quo is blood tests reveal all and NO T3!!

Yet (so I read) psychiatrists are allowed to prescribe T3......

Glynis

[Guest guest]

They

care more about the drug companies than patients. Drug companies make their

money out of illness. They encourage doctors to give the most appropriate drug

for what ails their patient. Patients having the symptoms of hypothyroidism can

have a multitude of symptoms - a drug companies dream. Drug companies give out

millions of pounds (probably billions) to  organisations such as the BTA, BTF, RCP

for their

educational seminars, their medical symposiums and their scientific conferences.

Roughly half

of all education for doctors is sponsored by drug companies.

Imagine

if all those suffering the symptoms of hypothyroidism were treated with natural

thyroid extract - *natural products cannot be patented LOL* or they were

given synthetic T3, and their symptoms were mitigated or resolved completely!

The pharmaceutical industry has already paid billions of pounds in developing

new drugs for all the different symptoms experienced - *we are told over and

over that the symptoms of hypothyroidism are non-specific* - so they educate

doctors as to what drugs should be given for each symptom. The pharmaceutical

companies educate our doctors and keep our doctors happy. Check out the list of

symptoms of hypothyroidism below and think of all the drugs that can be given

for each one. Most of these can be helped with either levothyroxine-only

therapy (if the patient is a good converter), but others simply need some form

of T3, synthetic or natural to regain their optimal health.

Where

would doing that leave BTA?

Sheila

symptoms of hypothyroidism:

General:

???? Excessive tiredness

???? Weight gain

???? Weight loss

???? Obesity

???? Cold extremities

???? Cold sweats

???? Night sweats

???? Slow movements

???? Slow speech

???? Pins & needles

???? Breathlessness

???? Difficulty drawing a full breath

???? Dizziness

???? Palpitations

???? Sensitivity to the sun

???? Lack of co-ordination, especially of hands and feet

???? Trembling

???? Insomnia

???? Loss of libido

???? Repeated urinary tract infections

???? Upper respiratory tract infections

???? Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)

???? Poor response to treatments

???? Candida (thrush)

???? Heavy eyelids

???? Hoarse voice

???? Goitre

???? Muscle cramps

???? Joint stiffness

???? Loss of stamina

???? Heat intolerance

???? Cold intolerance

???? Low basal (morning) temperature

???? Exercise intolerance

???? Salt cravings

???? Sweet cravings

???? Hypoglycaemia

???? Fainting episodes

???? 3.00pm crash

???? Jumpiness

???? Unrefreshing sleep

???? Asthma

???? Internal shivering

???? Lupus

???? Rheumatoid arthritis

???? Radioactive iodine treatment

???? Surgery on thyroid

Puffiness or swelling of:

???? Eyes

???? Face

???? Hands

???? Feet

???? Ankles

Mouth and throat:

???? Difficulty swallowing

???? Sensation of lump in throat

???? Sensation of pressure on throat

???? Burning sensation in throat

???? Sore throats

???? Swollen tongue

???? Choking fits

???? Dry mouth

???? Halitosis (bad breath)

Hearing problems:

???? Oversensitive hearing

???? Noises in ears (hissing, ringing)

???? Deafness

Hair:

???? Body hair loss

???? Head hair loss

???? Brittle hair

???? Eyebrow loss (outer third)

???? Eyelash loss

Nails:

???? Brittleness

???? Flaking

???? Peeling

Skin:

???? Dry

???? Flaky

???? Coarse patches

???? Sallow in colour

???? Pallor

???? Dark rings under eyes

???? Pigmentation in skin creases

???? Rashes & dermographia (wheals)

Numbness and tingling:

???? Legs

???? Feet

???? Arms

???? Hands

???? Back

???? Face

Pain:

???? Migraines

???? Pressure headaches

???? Back and loin pain

???? Wrist pain

???? Muscles and joint pain

???? Carpal Tunnel Syndrome

???? Tendinitis

???? Heel spur / plantar fasciitis

Digestive problems:

???? Loss of appetite

???? Food allergy / sensitivity

???? Alcohol intolerance

???? Constipation

???? Haemorrhoids

???? Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)

???? Abdominal distention / flatulence

???? High cholesterol

???? Diabetes

Blood

pressure & pulse:

???? High blood pressure

???? Low blood pressure

???? Slow/weak pulse (under 60 bpm)

???? Fast pulse (over 90 bpm at rest)

Menstrual

disorders:

???? Cessation of periods (amenorrhoea)

???? Scanty (light) periods

(oligomenorrhoea)

???? Heavy periods (menorrhagia)

???? Infertility

???? Premenstrual syndrome/tension

(PMS/PMT)

???? Endometriosis

Visual

disturbances:

???? Poor focusing

???? Double vision

???? Dry eyes

???? Gritty eyes

???? Blurred vision

MENTAL

???? Panic attacks

???? Memory loss

???? Confusion

???? Mental sluggishness

???? Poor concentration

???? Noises and/or voices in head

???? Hallucinations

???? Phobias

???? Loss of drive

???? Post Natal Depression (PND)

???? Nightmares

EMOTIONAL

???? Easily upset

???? Wanting to be solitary

???? Mood swings

???? Depression

???? Nervousness / anxiety

???? Personality changes

???? Feelings of resentment

???? Lack of confidence

So what are the BTA, RCP, BTF frightened of to let the doctors prescribe T3

etc.

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[Guest guest]

There's always the atomic bomb! Never say die!

Luv - Sheila

Copernicus had the problem of a difficult proof, although to deal with the

geocentric notion requires non-available sources of energy to get planets to

reverse course as required by the geocentric concept. (in order to change speed,

there is a need to accelerate the body either positively or negatively. And

that requires a force, F = M x A. where M is the mass of the planet. AH, it

must be an invisible hand, which is quite akin to medicine's rebuke of

Semmelweis with " bad humors in the air cause infections. "

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