Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 , the problem might lie with you’re adrenals. You could be suffering with low adrenal reserve 9adrenal fatigue) without realising it. This can happen if you have emotional or physical stress. I would get the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile done to check out the amount of cortisol and DHEA that you are secreting at four specific times during the day. Go to the Home Page of this forum web site and in the Menu, click on FILES and on the page that opens, scroll down the FOLDERS to the one entitled 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements' and then click on 'Genova Diagnostics'. To get your discount through being a TPA member, remember to tell them that 'Thyroid Patient Advocate' is your practitioner. Genova will send the results direct to you, and not to me. If your results show that you do have adrenal fatigue, you need to start supplementing with Nutri Adrenal Extra which should help enormously. I am so sorry to hear you failed your test again and hope you will be successful next time. I have not driven for over 25 years, after a bad accident where I turned my car on to it's roof on black ice, but last week, my husband had a heart attack and ended up in hospital where he had a stent inserted into one of his arteries. He has been told he must not drive for at least four weeks, so I have decided to take matters into my own hands and get driving again. I arranged two lessons last Monday and am due another one tomorrow morning. I was absolutely fine and felt very proud of myself. I took off (with sitting in the passenger seat yesterday afternoon on a trip to Asda - and again, I was absolutely fine and patted myself on the back. However, today, we went out for lunch to a pub, I parked the car up splendidly, went in and had a wonderful meal, came out, sat in the car, and it seemed everybody sitting in the garden eating their lunch and drinking decided they were going to watch me. I put the car in first gear, took off the hand brake, and started rolling back for some reason. Tried again, feeling really stupid and annoyed that everybody was staring at me…same thing happened…started rolling back. I realised that I was actually parked on a bit of a hill, and that's why it was rolling back, so eventually gave it a bit more 'welly' and got going. More and more I was becoming stressed but managed to get the car out of the car park onto the road - but boy, then it ALL started happening. I fluffed my gears, over revved the car, got confused when I was on the trunk road after getting into the right lane in order to turn right, when an ambulance started screaming out loud on its way to the hospital. It raced up behind me and I had nowhere to go but onto the central reservation. I then lost it completely, got out of the car and made get in and drive it off home, even though he wasn't supposed to. I just sat there in the passenger seat shaking like a leaf, very white and shaken and started to cry, quite uncontrollably. I couldn't understand why this happened or why I felt the way that I did, but now back at home safe and sound and putting two and two together, I think all the strain I had being going through lately with and his heart attack and coping on my own just hit me out of the blue - and I was not taking any adrenal support. I am NOW - this was the first thing I did when I got home. I am due for another lesson tomorrow but that is to concentrate on reversing and parallel parking, but I think I will need another one after that just to get back my confidence again - so dear - you are not alone. However, you must find the reason why you still have some symptoms of hypothyroidism, and go through everything as a process of elimination. Any chance you could have systemic candidiasis or mercury poisoning caused through amalgam fillings….or have I asked you that before??? Luv - Sheila Hello everyone, I am looking for some advice. I have for the 3rd time this morning, just failed my driving test. I'm gutted to say the least. The reason I think I keep on failing them is down to my nerves, and the anxiety I have in the week coming up to it, Last night I had no sleep, and in the morning It felt like I was going to have a full blown panic attack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Wow, that's quite a story, Shelia. I'm glad is OK and riding around in the car with you. That's a good sign. :0) I'd check into your B12 and all the B vitamins because they often are lacking when panic attacks and general anxiety appear. And of course the adrenals need to be supported. Have you thought about taking some lithium orotate before the test or driving instruction? It will just take the edge off and won't interfere with your mental capacity, but it will make you more comfortable. At very low doses, it really does just kill the anxiety so you can function with less fear. http://www.pureformulas.com/lithium-orotate-5-mg-90-vegetarian-capsules-by-pure-\ encapsulations.html Cheers, JOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi and Sheila, Sorry to hear that things have been tough for you both at the moment. I send you both my best regards. Life can be like that sometimes, can't it? The stress levels go through the roof and the panics aren't far away. I've lived like this for a long time and have found a couple of things that seem to help me. I thought I would post - in case some of these things may be good for you too. I have found L-Theanine to be really good. It can calm me down quite quickly, even when I am in the throws of a panic. If I need it to work quickly, I open the capsules and put the powder on my tongue. Even the taste is gentle. Quiet Life tablets are good, too. They're similar to Kalms, but I find them much better. A shiatsu practitioner told me once that if you shove a thumb into the centre of your palm when you're anxious - this can immediately calm the nervous system. I understand that there are issues needing to be addressed, in order to fully recover from anxiety attacks - but, in the meantime, I hope these tips bring a little relief. Hope things will be easier soon, Del Cardiff. > > , the problem might lie with you're adrenals. You could be suffering > with low adrenal reserve 9adrenal fatigue) without realising it. - so dear - you are not alone. > > Luv - Sheila > > > > > Hello everyone, > I am looking for some advice. > I have for the 3rd time this morning, just failed my driving test. > I'm gutted to say the least. > The reason I think I keep on failing them is down to my nerves, and the > anxiety I have in the week coming up to it, Last night I had no sleep, and > in the morning It felt like I was going to have a full blown panic attack! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi It took me 3 goes to pass my test, and i was very nervous too. can you wait until you are stabilised and feeling better physically? could you try EFT to help you cope with your anxiety? (obviously not whilst taking test!) Opiates suppress cortisol levels?maybe that's causing your greater anxiety? cortisol is the hormone that helps you cope with stress? http://www.unit2unit.com/index.cgi?number_input=3 & action=mass & initial_unit=1.000\ 0000000E-06 & final_unit=1.0000000000E-09 Chris > > Hello everyone, > I am looking for some advice. > I have for the 3rd time this morning, just failed my driving test. > I'm gutted to say the least. > The reason I think I keep on failing them is down to my nerves, and the anxiety I have in the week comming up to it, Last night I had no sleep, and in the morning It felt like I was going to have a full blown panic attack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi Sheila I am sorry to read about having a heart attack. What adrenal support are you on? I hope that it helps you. I don't know what else to say - I am crap at this kind of thing - but I hope recovers soon. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Thanks for these tips Del and I will certainly give them a try. Luv - Sheila I have found L-Theanine to be really good. It can calm me down quite quickly, even when I am in the throws of a panic. If I need it to work quickly, I open the capsules and put the powder on my tongue. Even the taste is gentle. Quiet Life tablets are good, too. They're similar to Kalms, but I find them much better. A shiatsu practitioner told me once that if you shove a thumb into the centre of your palm when you're anxious - this can immediately calm the nervous system. ,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi what I forgot to mention was that at the same time was admitted to hospital, my elder sister was also admitted after having a massive stroke. They found a clot on the left side of her brain " the size of a tomato " . She is in a very bad state and we have no idea what is likely to happen to her, but the doctors said it is going to be a very long road to go down and will take months, rather than weeks. She is the only sister I have left, and lives near to London and I am unable to get down to see her because I need to be looking after , but she is not aware of anything around her, is unable to speak, they are not even sure whether she can see as her eyes are not following lights or other movements and she is paralysed down one side. Last night apparently, she pulled out her feeding tube and she can't swallow (or won't) to get it back in place and she is refusing any food from a spoon, she won't (or can't) swallow it, so they may have to put a tube into her tummy. If she is aware of what has happened, I doubt she could stand it. I have Nutri Adrenal Extra in. I took 2 tablets today and will start on 3 tomorrow. I have been off NAE for some time now, but know they will put me right. Yes, it is very difficult knowing what to say in such a situation - I too am pretty hopeless as I speak with her daughters every night and there seems very little that I can say to them either. is fine, but a little tired today, but then after having a heart attack, that is understandable. Luv - Sheila Hi Sheila I am sorry to read about having a heart attack. What adrenal support are you on? I hope that it helps you. I don't know what else to say - I am crap at this kind of thing - but I hope recovers soon. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Oh Sheila, I am so sorry to hear about and your sister – why is it that things always happen all at once? Please tell I wish him a really speedy recovery and likewise all my best wishes for your sister. I can soo empathize with your driving experience. I used to love driving when I was living in Berlin, but when I moved over here 26 years ago, I didn't have a car nor the confidence to drive on the `wrong' side of the road.... and then I quickly lost confidence totally... little did I know back then that I was already programmed to become hypo with all that comes with it (like lack of confidence).... anyway – it took me 20 years to grasp the nettle and although I now drive again, the confidence I once had is lost forever and I still will not venture very far - weak adrenals have a lot to answer for L ... keep taking the NAX .... Love, xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Sheila I would like to echo what thoughts. Best wishes Jaki Oh Sheila, I am so sorry to hear about and your sister – why is it that things always happen all at once? Please tell I wish him a really speedy recovery and likewise all my best wishes for your sister. I can soo empathize with your driving experience. I used to love driving when I was living in Berlin, but when I moved over here 26 years ago, I didn't have a car nor the confidence to drive on the `wrong' side of the road.... and then I quickly lost confidence totally... little did I know back then that I was already programmed to become hypo with all that comes with it (like lack of confidence).... anyway – it took me 20 years to grasp the nettle and although I now drive again, the confidence I once had is lost forever and I still will not venture very far - weak adrenals have a lot to answer for L ... keep taking the NAX .... Love, xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi Sheila Sorry to hear of your husbands and sisters illness. So hard to cope with loved ones being ill. I am sure everyone on this site wishes them both a speedy recovery - especially after all the help you have given to people. As for the driving, dont give up! I live in London and it is a constant nightmare. I still suffer terribly from brain fog, etc.etc. so I just "go with the flow" of all the other bad drivers here - leave a safe enough distance and its fine! Dont forget, there is ALWAYS people a lot worse than you - being confident is half the battle. You done it once, you can do it again and again - just take a breath and calm down. Good luck. Best wishes Colleen From: Jaki <jaki.y@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Wed, 4 May, 2011 22:12:16Subject: Re: Re: Anxiety and Hashi's Sheila I would like to echo what thoughts. Best wishes Jaki Oh Sheila, I am so sorry to hear about and your sister – why is it that things always happen all at once? Please tell I wish him a really speedy recovery and likewise all my best wishes for your sister. I can soo empathize with your driving experience. I used to love driving when I was living in Berlin, but when I moved over here 26 years ago, I didn't have a car nor the confidence to drive on the `wrong' side of the road.... and then I quickly lost confidence totally... little did I know back then that I was already programmed to become hypo with all that comes with it (like lack of confidence).... anyway – it took me 20 years to grasp the nettle and although I now drive again, the confidence I once had is lost forever and I still will not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Hi everyone, and thank you all for your kind messages. I forgot to say that I am also taking 3 nutri adrenal tablets a day, maybe I need more, I must say that life has been quite hectic at the moment, and when I managed to get up to 3 nutri adrenal tablets, I stopped taking my temps, and havent managed to get my dosage up to 4 yet, life just takes over some times doesn't it? but I will get back on track! Sheila, I have only worked out that I may have adrenal problems as well, so thats why I started to take the Nutri adrenal. Im so sorry to hear theat your Hubbie is unwell, I wish him a speedy recovery, and Sheila, im sorry to hear that your driving went that way, I just seem to go to pieces sometimes too, with me it's the fear of not knowing exactly whats going to be asked of you on the day, Yesterday, although I'm ashamed to say it, I didn't even get out the car park!!! When I'd reverse parked my car in to a bay just before my test there was only one space left for me to go, and it was pretty tight, because the learner parked on my right hand side was pretty close to the white line of the bay, which meant that I was pretty close to the car parked on my left. Anyway after getting in to the car with the examiner, and getting my " show me tell me " questions right, I started to pull out of the bay, and just as I was nearly out of the bay I nudged the car next to me slightly, no damage done, but hey guess who's car it was? yes thats right, It just happened to be the examiners car! LOL, I couldnt have made more of an idiot of myself If I'd tried! That was it, game over, My instructor drove me home, and I spent all day in tears, because I'd told myself that " this was it I was going to pass today " hey ho thats just life I suppose, everyone I have been out driving with has told me my driving is good and I should be able to pass, its just my nerves on the day.........oh well I'll be able to look back and laugh about this one day, im still ashamed today though!..... :0( x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Hi JOT, I would have serious concerns taking lithium if you have a thyroid disorder- it is a well known in having antithyroid effects and may thus cause more harm than good. > thyroid treatment > From: jitterjotter@...> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:58:08 +0000> Subject: Re: Anxiety and Hashi's> > > Wow, that's quite a story, Shelia. I'm glad is OK and riding around in the car with you. That's a good sign. :0)> > I'd check into your B12 and all the B vitamins because they often are lacking when panic attacks and general anxiety appear. And of course the adrenals need to be supported.> > Have you thought about taking some lithium orotate before the test or driving instruction? It will just take the edge off and won't interfere with your mental capacity, but it will make you more comfortable. At very low doses, it really does just kill the anxiety so you can function with less fear.> > http://www.pureformulas.com/lithium-orotate-5-mg-90-vegetarian-capsules-by-pure-encapsulations.html> > Cheers,> JOT> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Sheila I'm sorry to hear about your sister. Why is it all these bad things all come at once :-( Chris > > Hi what I forgot to mention was that at the same time was > admitted to hospital, my elder sister was also admitted after having a > massive stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Hi there, have you looked at your adrenals- both the thyroid and adrenals can have anxiety as a symptom. have you tried some sort of adrenal support. this may be the answer to why you have problems with the test. look up Http://www.seredyn.com.here is a remedie for anxiety it contains valerian, l-theantine and passion flower. you could try the valerian on its own. or look up other things for the anxiety.i came across this while looking for answers for my son. angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 HI SHEILA I am sorry to hear the bad news that you are going through at the moment. I had a feeling that something was wrong, as I had not seen responses from you on the forums. I hope gets better and recovers from his heart attack. Best wishes From Kathleen > > Hi what I forgot to mention was that at the same time was > admitted to hospital, my elder sister was also admitted after having a > massive stroke. They found a clot on the left side of her brain " the size of > a tomato " . She is in a very bad state and we have no idea what is likely to > happen to her, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Just a thought, but I found the NAE too stimulating in me, and found that a cortex only product helped me. you can get these online from places like mandimart, or iherb. Some people - such as Ross, author of The Mood cure - say that the adrenal glandulars contain too much adrenaline for already stressed people. That is my experience too, but other people may find that their experiences differ.... chris > > Hi everyone, and thank you all for your kind messages. > I forgot to say that I am also taking 3 nutri adrenal tablets a day, maybe I need more, I must say that life has been quite hectic at the moment, and when I managed to get up to 3 nutri adrenal tablets, I stopped taking my temps, and havent managed to get my dosage up to 4 yet, life just takes over some times doesn't it? but I will get back on track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 i'd like to add my best wishes for your husband and sister ...i am adding three more candles to my big lantern...the third one is for you, i beleive in positive vibes trish > > Hi what I forgot to mention was that at the same time was > admitted to hospital, my elder sister was also admitted after having a > massive stroke. They found a clot on the left side of her brain " the size of > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Hi : Lithium orotate does more good than bad, thyroid or no thyroid. At 5 mgs a day it has great health benefits as a mineral transporter. And if it takes the stress off the adrenals and the thyroid enough to get you through a very emotionally stressful moment, I'd suggest it. The orotates do good work, and lithium orotate is also being considered as help for Alzheimer's and memory problems. For that alone, I wish everyone would take 5 mgs a day because the lack of memory and processing of thoughts in the average person has become a big problem for the world. This link will provide you with more info: http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/orotates-mineral-transporters.html Cheers, JOT > Hi JOT, > I would have serious concerns taking lithium if you have a thyroid disorder- it is a well known in having antithyroid effects and may thus cause more harm than good. > > > Have you thought about taking some lithium orotate before the test or driving instruction? It will just take the edge off and won't interfere with your mental capacity, but it will make you more comfortable. At very low doses, it really does just kill the anxiety so you can function with less fear. > > > > http://www.pureformulas.com/lithium-orotate-5-mg-90-vegetarian-capsules-by-pure-\ encapsulations.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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