T3

[Guest guest]

Write a letter to this GP and let him know you are not going to

stand for this nonsense and that you intend to find some answers to your

questions .

First, list all of your symptoms and signs Gillian. Go to our

web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk and click on

'Hypothyroidism' in the Menu , then click on the 'Signs and Symptoms' and

compare what you have with those. It matters not how long the list is, write

down every single one. Write the signs too - these are what people can see like

no hair on the shins of your legs, outer third of eyebrows missing, thinning

hair, puffiness over and under eyes etc. Doctors should notice this for

themselves and not have to have their patients pointing these out to them.  Ask

him also to test your Achilles' tendon reflex to see if this is slow. This is

SPECIFIC to hypothyroidism. If you still have a slow reflex, you are not on the

correct medication or the correct dose.

List the blood tests you need to be done to see if any of the

following are low in their respective reference range. These are ferritin,

vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. Ask the GP for a

copy of these results with the ref. range (post them on the forum because

doctors mainly do not know how to read these and will tell you all of them are

'normal' because they appear within the range. It matters not to them whether

the results is at the bottom, the top or the middle of the range - but this

MATTERS). Ask also that your free T3 be tested and tell him that the laboratory

will refuse to do the test if he asks for this to be done with TSH and free T4.

He needs to be told to ask for TSH and free T3 ONLY. He could write on the form

that he is testing to see if you are hyPERthyroid.

Then ask for a referral to an endocrinologist who has a

particular interest in thyroid disease. Most endo's specialty is in diabetes,

which is not much use to us as many know little to nothing about those with

symptoms of hypothyroidism. I will send you my list of recommended doctors

(some are NHS and the other half are private - so take your pick). If

necessary, make sure this doctor knows that you have a right to a second

opinion and he is not a specialist in thyroid disease and that you have

sufferered for too long and you are not prepared to carry on. Tell your GP that

he CAN prescribe T3 - the Royal College of Physicians and the British thyroid

Association 'guidance' is nothing other than a 'guidance' and it is not laid

down in stone. The DoH have stated categorically that doctors can choose

whatever guidelines they wish to follow, even if they come from another

country, so long as they can give good reason why they decided to follow those

and not those in the UK. Tell him that the statements in the UK guidance have

not been backed with any of the available scientific evidence that shows they

are wrong in many instances.

Write also that the serum thyroid function tests  do NOT test

for 'Type 2' hypothyroidism (Euthyroid hypometabolism) which is defined as

peripheral resistance to thyroid hormones at the cellular level. It is not due

to a lack of thyroid hormones. Normal amounts of TSH are usually detected by

blood tests: therefore, blood tests do not detect Type 2 hypothyroidism. Type 2

is usually inherited. However, environmental toxins may also cause or

exacerbate the problem. The pervasiveness of Type 2 hypothyroidism has yet to

be recognised by mainstream medicine, but already is in epidemic proportions.

From: thyroid treatment

[mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of Gillian

Broughton

Sent: 18 January 2011 11:38

thyroid treatment

Subject: T3

Hi everyone ,

I am a newby to this site ,Can anyone give me some advice ?

I have been on thyroxine 20+ no probs , and then July 09 i feel ill , vertigo

and other severe symptoms , i was back and forth GP ( useless ) I eventually

seen Dr .P who ran test showing i had a convertion prob T4-T3 , i have been

taking T3 only and 20 months on Thyroid function ( nhs test normal range ) I am

still unwell with ME/CFS & fibro , 70% housebound unable to work and on

basic £ 57 out of which i have to pay for T3 , I asked my new GP could he

prescribe Flat NO !!! Any advice as what i should do ?

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

what did your private doc start you off on and what was the dose that he was expecting you to be optimal on ?

If you are taking Liothyronine, then, as you know, they come in 20mcg tablets that split in half pretty easily and even quarters if you have a good pill cutter. When I started the T3, I like you needed four separate doses a day... so I started on 5mcg four times a day and stayed on this dose for a couple of weeks before increasing. I had to take it slowly as I had really bad adrenal issues. I then slowly increased over the space of about three months to 40 mcg which i am on today.

It's really important to make sure that you are supporting your adrenals enough as the T3 can really put a strain on them. You need to be taking a really good dose of vitamin c as the adrenals use more of this than any other part of your body. The slow release capsules are good, though expensive.

Are you taking adrenal support ? Have you had your adrenals tested ? ........ have you done the temperature chart from Dr Rind (you can download it from his site). This is a cheap way of getting an idea of what your adrenals are doing. If your basel temp is either low or normal-ish but steady, it is an indication that your adrenals are ok (ish). If your temps are erratic, then your adrenals need support. If your temps are low....then that too is indicative of adrenal fatigue.

I have been relatively well since starting T3 alone last year, but since coming off Isocort (can't afford it now) I've gone down hill and am really suffering with adrenal probs again. Low bp, dizziness, feeling 'hormonal', tired etc etc. I'ts as if the T3 is too strong, so I too am having to reluctantly reduce my dose.... and that in turn then causes problems.

Following the adrenal diet is very helpful while you 'heal up' again.

I really sympathise...........

julia

[Guest guest]

Hi Lizzie,

Pleased to hear you are having a change to something..... have you noticed

anything else change?

I am wanting to try T3.........where did you get yours from?

Bridgette

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> Just wanted to share this with you.

> I have been on T3 10mcg for 3 weeks now this is in addition to 75 mcg

> of levothyroxine that I had been on for 12 months. My skin on my legs,

> feet and hands had remained dry (has been for years no improvement

> seen when on T4). I have just noticed that my legs feel quite silky

> and the areas on my hands and my feet feel much smoother, this is

> wonderful, makes me wonder if the levothyroxine has been doing much

> for me at all. My thigh cramps are still there but I am waiting to see

> if this resolves or if it is being caused by the T4. Watch this space!

>

> Love Lizzie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, im amusing that the thyroid tablets you have been taking for 3 years are T4

(thyroxine) ?

If that isnt working (not converting to the active hormone T3) then you need to

find out why not ? Usually its related to adrenals or iron or both.

Do you have any adrenal test results (saliva test) or temperatures that you have

tracked ? and do you have any iron labs ?

T3 is usually ordered over seas and can take 2-4 weeks for it to arrive, for me

i could almost say it saved my life. After my first dose of T3 i never looked

back. That being said i have been on T3 since october and ive not regained full

health infact far from, but compared to how i was before i was on T3 is 10000x

better

Steve

>

> Hi everyone, I'm new here and after reading an article on Sunday I have joined

the group.

> I have a thyroid problem and have been taking tablets for over 3 years and

seeing no difference other than weight gain !!! So would like to know where the

T3 is available and how anyone has got on with it themselves?

>

[Guest guest]

i think it's important to stress that obtaining medication without a

prescription is the last resort; i think you saw Dr Peatfield, Steve, but others

may not have done and for them is it not advisable that they work with their

doctors to see if T3 containing meds such as NDT can be prescribed?

>

>> T3 is usually ordered over seas and can take 2-4 weeks for it to arrive, for

me i could almost say it saved my life. After my first dose of T3 i never looked

back. That being said i have been on T3 since october and ive not regained full

health infact far from, but compared to how i was before i was on T3 is 10000x

better

>

> Steve

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bridgett,

Whoa, hold on..... how do you think you need T3? It really isn't the answer for

a lot of people. I'm guessing you have been on Levothyroxine (T4) for the

past few years. Have you had regular blood tests done by your doctor? What

levels of TSH, free t4 and possibly free t3 do you have? Ask the doc for the

results of all your tests, and post them here so we can have a think about what

might be wrong.

T4 is a storage hormone and it has to be converted by the body into T3 which is

an active hormone with a very short life. We cannot store T3 which is why we

store T4.

Lots of things can affect conversion and usage. The main culprits are low

ferritin (stored iron), Low B12, Low D3, shortage of selenium, and poor copper

and zinc levels. Have you had tests for any of these and are you taking

several thousand mcg of Vitamin C every day?

I think you should see what tests have been done, ask for any that haven't been

done and then consider your next move when you have results. In the meantime,

have a look through old posts and the files on the forum

thyroid treatment and you'll get a

picture of how it all works.

86% of people are thought to do very well on levothyroxine only, so long as all

the other vits, minerals and adrenal system are well supported. The other 14%

of us find our ways to forums and learn to argue and educate our docs.

T3 is available on the NHS, I get mine from the doctor, but it is also possible

and perfectly legal to just buy in your own. However this isn't really the

best route to go down without eliminating all the other stuff first.

Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but with thyroid, there are no quick

fixes.

x

>

> Hi everyone, I'm new here and after reading an article on Sunday I have joined

the group.

> I have a thyroid problem and have been taking tablets for over 3 years and

seeing no difference other than weight gain !!

[Guest guest]

Hi Bridgette,

This is a very old message posted around 2008.

I had the T3 prescribed by an endo. It's a very long story but have tried

various combinations since then and now take just T3 prescribed.

Have to dash as I am off to work, but please read, read ,read for all the

information you need to make an informed decision about the road to follow.

Love Lizzie

Hi Lizzie,

> Pleased to hear you are having a change to something..... have you noticed

anything else change?

> Just wanted to share this with you.

> > I have been on T3 10mcg for 3 weeks now this is in addition to 75 mcg

> > of levothyroxine that I had been on for 12 months. My skin on my legs,

> > feet and hands had remained dry (has been for years no improvement

> > seen when on T4). I have just noticed that my legs feel quite silky

> > and the areas on my hands and my feet feel much smoother, this is

> > wonderful, makes me wonder if the levothyroxine has been doing much

[Guest guest]

Hiya i would say ordering T3 yourself is a VERY last resort indeed. Not

only are you self treating but you are PAYING for something which could get a

similar thyroid replacement on the NHS.

That being said i had only read Dr P's book before i self treated, and i

reccommend anyone thinkin of trying T3 to read his book and join the RT3

group, that was enough to educate me to self treat properly. So i was on HC/T3

before i went to see Dr P, i went to see dr P to see if i was doing everything

correct and if i needed to change anything, and i was pretty much on track.

Steve

>

> i think it's important to stress that obtaining medication without a

prescription is the last resort; i think you saw Dr Peatfield, Steve, but others

may not have done and for them is it not advisable that they work with their

doctors to see if T3 containing meds such as NDT can be prescribed?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Agreed

It is difficult to remember to put in every single email/post answered on here;

and I am probably the worst offender,

time and brain fog makes it difficult to remember

BUT

the information given by each of us is our OPINION.

We are not on here as medical experts,

we are here as fellow sufferers who have gained some knowledge

through our own/family/friends experience of hypothyroidism and

its associated 'issues/disorders/etc'

You should always work with your doc.....

and further your doc should always work with you!!!

but we know sadlly that doesnt always happen and

that of course is OUR MAIN PROBLEM....

so we have to try to find ways around that...

usually the best thing to do is to search out another GP/endo .......

work with doc...find one that will IF POSSIBLE

our opinion is just that; we are not and we cannot advise you

our experience is just that; yours is yours and the two may be very different despite similarities

self medication is your call and should be a last resort

educate yourself and research everything before hand

Use this site and others sensibly.

take responsibility for what you do.

if you are unsure of something ask a close friend to help you sort things out in your own mind

(brain fog and fatigue I realise makes things very tough).

We are all friends on here,

this should be a safe environment for us,

we can rant,

we can ask questions,

we can give information and support.

we can also share our experiences and

send out much love,.

I wish everyone to be well and happy,

Sally xx

i think it's important to stress that obtaining medication without a prescription is the last resort; i think you saw Dr Peatfield, Steve, but others may not have done and for them is it not advisable that they work with their doctors to see if T3 containing meds such as NDT can be prescribed?

[Guest guest]

I agree with this. Everybody who wish their treatment regime to

be changed should seek the recommendations of a medical practitioner. T3 is the

active thyroid hormone and taking this unsupervised could cause serious

problems. You need to find out through blood tests (preferably the 24 hour

urine test that you can get from Genova Diagnostics (see our Files section

under 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements' and then click on 'Genova

Diagnostics'). Both the medical advisers for TPA run metabolic clinics and if

it is possible, could you arrange to see one of them if your own GP will not

help you.

If levothyroxine is not working for you, then you need to

investigate why. First, have a look at the attached document to find just some

of the reasons why you might be having problems and go through these by way of

a process of elimination. You also need to ask your GP to test your levels of

ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc because

if any of these are low in the reference range, no amount of thyroid hormone

can be fully utilised at the cellular level until whatever is low has been

supplemented.

Get the results of a full thyroid function test (TSH, free T4

and free T3) and the above results from your GP together with the reference

range for each of the tests done and copy them onto the forum and we will help

with their interpretation as it is a fact that should your results come back

anywhere within the reference range, the doctor will tell you that you don't

have a problem. This is not necessarily the case, we need to know whether you

they are at the bottom, the middle or the top of the range.

Luv - Sheila

i think it's important to stress that obtaining

medication without a prescription is the last resort; i think you saw Dr

Peatfield, Steve, but others may not have done and for them is it not advisable

that they work with their doctors to see if T3 containing meds such as NDT can

be prescribed?

>

>> T3 is usually ordered over seas and can take 2-4 weeks for it to arrive,

for me i could almost say it saved my life. After my first dose of T3 i never

looked back. That being said i have been on T3 since october and ive not

regained full health infact far from, but compared to how i was before i was on

T3 is 10000x better

>

> Steve

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, I'm new here and after reading an article on Sunday I have joined the group.I have a thyroid problem and have been taking tablets for over 3 years and seeing no difference other than weight gain !!! So would like to know where the T3 is available and how anyone has got on with it themselves?

Hello Bridgette and welcome J

Whilst all of us here can understand that you are impatient to get your health back, things are not that simple; T3 is not the magic wand that will turn your life around, nor is it a slimming pill. Taking T3 without solid knowledge of what you are doing and what is happening in your body would be very ill advised... dangerous even.

The first step is to understand why Levothyroxine (T4-only) is not working for you.... and here is a list of possible reasons, which you need to eliminate point for point.

1. The thyroxine dose is too low.

Often this is the case, and the doctor or consultant won't increase it, since the blood levels appear perfectly okay. Sometimes, though, the dose of thyroxine is quite high – 200 mcg – 300 mcg – but you still don't feel well.

2. Partial response to the single synthetic thyroxine replacement.

Your thyroid produces other hormones apart from thyroxine (which is a mainly inactive hormone anyway). These are T3, T2, T1, and most of us need them all. Without them our response is limited and synthetic thyroxine may not suit the system as well as the natural thyroid hormones.

3. Adrenal fatigue or exhaustion.

This is very commonly met with indeed. The production of thyroxine (T4), its conversion to the active hormone liothyronine (T3), and the receptor uptake (called `binding') requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably, of course, cortisone. (Excess cortisone can shut production down, however.) Go to our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk , click on ]'Hypothyroidism' and then click on 'Associated Conditions' and read about the adrenal/thyroid connection there.

4. Failure of the 5 dei-iodinase enzyme.

This is what happens if the adrenals are not responding properly, and provision of cortisone usually switches it on again. But sometimes it doesn't. If the illness has been going on too long, the enzyme seems to fail. This conversion failure (in explicably denied by many endocrinologists) means the thyroxine builds up, unconverted. So it doesn't work, and T4 toxicosis results. This makes you feel quite unwell, toxic, often with palpitations and chest pain. (I refer to this further on.) If provision of adrenal support doesn't remedy the situation, the final solution is the use of the thyroid hormone, already converted, T3.

5. Receptor resistance.

Being hypothyroid for some considerable time may mean the biochemical mechanisms which permit the binding of T3 to the receptors is downgraded; the T3 just won't go in. With slow build up of T3, with full adrenal support and adequate vitamins and minerals, the receptors do actually come on line again. But this can be quite a slow process, and care has to be taken to build the dose up gradually. It is recommended to get the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile done through Genova Diagnostics which tests your cortisol and DHEA levels at four specific times during the day. TPA-UK get discount for thyroid and adrenal tests.

6. Food allergies.

The most common food allergy is allergy to gluten, the protein fraction of wheat. The antibody generated by the body, by a process of molecular mimicry, cross reacts with the thyroperoxidase enzyme, (which makes thyroxine) and shuts it down. So allergy to bread can make you hypothyroid.

There may be other food allergies with this kind of effect, but information on these is scanty. Certainly allergic response to certain foods can affect adrenal function and imperil thyroid production and uptake.

7. Presence of systemic candidiasis.

This is where candida albicans, a yeast, which causes skin infections almost anywhere in the body, invades the lining of the lower part of the small intestine and the large intestine. Here, the candida sets up residence in the warmth and the dark, and demands to be fed. Loving sugars and starches, candida can make you suffer frightful sweet cravings. (I wouldn't be surprised if it can synthesize a neurotransmitter, which causes such craving that you have to have chocolate, on pain of death.)

Candida can produce toxins which can cause very many symptoms of exhaustion, headache, general illness, and which interfere with the uptake of thyroid and adrenal treatment. Sometimes the levels – which we usually test for – can be very high indeed, and make successful treatment difficult to achieve until adequately treated. (More of this further on.)

8. Hormone imbalances.

The whole of the endocrine system is linked; each part of it needs the other parts to be operating normally to work properly. An example of this we have seen already, with cortisone. But another example is the operation of sex hormones. The imbalance that occurs at the menopause with progesterone running down, and a relative dominance of oestrogen is a further case in point – oestrogen dominance downgrades production, transportation and uptake of thyroid hormones. This is why hypothyroidism may first appear at the menopause; the symptoms ascribed to this alone, which is then treated – often with extra oestrogen, making the whole thing worse. Deficiency in progesterone most especially needs to be dealt with, since it reverses oestrogen dominance, improves many menopausal symptoms like sweats and mood swings, and reverses osteoporosis. Happily natural progesterone cream is easily obtained: when used it has the added benefit of helping to stabilise adrenal function.

9. Mineral and Vitamin deficiencies.

Minerals and Vitamins like Ferritin, Magnesium, Zinc, Copper, Folate, Vit B12 and Vit D3 need to be checked – they should be not at the bottom, but the very top of their respective ref ranges. If any of those were low – even low within the ref range – it will prevent thyroid hormone from getting inside the cells.

When you have been quite unwell for a long time, all these problems have to be dealt with; and since each may affect the other, it all has to be done rather carefully.

Before we can comment on any of our member condition we first need to know their history and current lab results, which need to include the ref ranges since every lab in the country has slightly different ones and you have to view the results against the respective reference ranges. Sometimes it is pretty clear just from looking at the results what might be the problem, but often it is a painstaking search for the culprit. It really is necessary to look at each and every patient individually – there is no `one fits all' formula and that includes the use of T3..... for instance – if someone with unsupported very weak adrenal function were to take T3, he or she could find themselves in a life threatening adrenal crisis.

The active hormone T3 is what is needed in every single cell of our bodies – T4 is only an inactive pre-hormone which is required by the body to convert into T3. Usually the body is able to convert T4 into T3 ... but not always, and this would be one scenario where a patient really needs to take T3 in addition to T4 or even T3-only.

The most common reason why thyroid hormone does not work with patients is because of adrenal fatigue. Doctors do not recognize adrenal fatigue as a diagnosis – they only recognize the extremes – 's disease or Cushing's disease – yet adrenal fatigue is extremely common, particularly in people with thyroid conditions. Thing is.... the body needs sufficient cortisol (which is produced by the adrenal glands) to utilize thyroid hormone. So when the adrenal glands are too knackered to produce sufficient cortisol, no amount of exogenous thyroid hormone will actually make it in sufficient quantities into the cells. Therefore the golden rule is: first treat the adrenals, then the thyroid.... and this is something no NHS doctor will tell you.

But adrenals are just one of the 8 other possible culprits that may prevent your thyroid hormone from working. It could be any one of the above mentioned points, or any combination of them.... and you need to find out what it is, because it is pretty unlikely that your GP or even endo will help you with that. You need to learn, learn, learn the facts about thyroid conditions and much of the rectifying will be down to you. You won't get any help from your doctor about adrenal fatigue for instance, and very few doctors know about the connections of the other points mentioned above.

So you see, it is not as easy as popping yet another pill. You need to identify why your body is not responding to the thyroid hormone you are taking and then do something about it. T3 is marvellous stuff, but it is an extremely potent hormone and should be treated with the utmost care and respect. Taken without sufficient knowledge of what is going on in your body it can do untold and irreversible damage. You could compare it to a learner driver driving a 300 horsepower sports car.

Please tell us a bit about your history, your lab results and the amounts of Levothyroxine you are currently taking and then we can discuss further action J

With best wishes,

[Guest guest]

I agree yes but was just saying that as a lot of new people have arrived and may

have read about this 'wonder drug' T3, and where can they get it from and buy it

off their own bat thinking it'll solve all their ills, happily ever after.

As you know, it's not that simple....

There are other concerns, too.

>

>

>

>  

>  

> Agreed

>  

[Guest guest]

Hey

Steve, I am all for recommending members to join other forums if they can't get

the help they need here, but please give us a chance, we haven't done too bad

for a lot of our 2330 members yet. If anybody is found to have a reverse T3

problem we can have a go at dealing with it and if not, then we can encourage

our members to join other people's forums. I know you are only trying to help,

but encouraging somebody to go elsewhere when they have just joined us here is

hardly giving them the confidence they might need to stay and see what we have

to offer. Not everybody who needs to be given T3 needs it because they have a

reverse T3 problem *grin*,

Luv

- Sheila

That being said i had only read Dr P's book before i self treated, and i

reccommend anyone thinkin of trying T3 to read his book and join the RT3

group, that was enough to educate me to self treat properly. So i was on HC/T3

before i went to see Dr P, i went to see dr P to see if i was doing everything

correct and if i needed to change anything, and i was pretty much on track.

>

_,___

[Guest guest]

SO

TRUE! - IF ONLY THERE WAS SUFFICIENT SPACE TO PUT THIS IN OUR DISCLAIMER THAT

GOES ON THE BOTTOM OF EVERY EMAIL, BUT THERE ISN'T, BUT WE DO HAVE A ONE-LINER

DISCLAIMER. TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical

practitioner before changing medication.

the information given by each

of us is our OPINION.

We are not on here as medical

experts,

we are here as fellow sufferers

who have gained some knowledge

through our own/family/friends

experience of hypothyroidism and

its associated

'issues/disorders/etc'

You should always work with

your doc.....

and further your doc should

always work with you!!!

but we know sadlly that doesnt

always happen and

that of course is OUR MAIN

PROBLEM....

so we have to try to find ways

around that...

usually the best thing to do is

to search out another GP/endo .......

work with doc...find one that

will IF POSSIBLE

our opinion is just that; we

are not and we cannot advise you

our experience is just that;

yours is yours and the two may be very different despite similarities

self medication is your call

and should be a last resort

educate yourself

and research everything before hand

Use this site and others

sensibly.

take responsibility for what

you do.

if you are unsure of something

ask a close friend to help you sort things out in your own mind

(brain fog and fatigue I

realise makes things very tough).

We are all friends on here,

this should be a safe

environment for us,

we can rant,

we can ask questions,

we can give information and

support.

we can also share our

experiences and

send out much love,.

I wish everyone to be well and

happy,

Sally xx

[Guest guest]

What an excellent post, . I hope you won't mind if I keep a copy to

pass on to friends who are just finding out about how everything fits together?

Miriam

>

> The first step is to understand why Levothyroxine (T4-only) is not

> working for you.... and here is a list of possible reasons, which you need to

eliminate point for point.

[Guest guest]

Sorry Sheila i didnt mean it as in go away from TPA and look elsewhere for help!

Just that if you were in the RT3 group ASWELL as this group then you should be

able to find an answer to your question. I also found the RT3 group before

thisone, had i found this before the RT3 i may of never needed the RT3 group.

But now i have found it i would reccommend it ASWELL as this group.

Steve

>

> Hey Steve, I am all for recommending members to join other forums if they

> can't get the help they need here, but please give us a chance, we haven't

> done too bad for a lot of our 2330 members yet. If anybody is found to have

> a reverse T3 problem we can have a go at dealing with it and if not, then we

> can encourage our members to join other people's forums. I know you are only

> trying to help, but encouraging somebody to go elsewhere when they have just

> joined us here is hardly giving them the confidence they might need to stay

> and see what we have to offer. Not everybody who needs to be given T3 needs

> it because they have a reverse T3 problem *grin*,

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

>

> That being said i had only read Dr P's book before i self treated, and i

> reccommend anyone thinkin of trying T3 to read his book and join the

> RT3 group, that was enough to educate me to self treat properly. So i was on

> HC/T3 before i went to see Dr P, i went to see dr P to see if i was doing

> everything correct and if i needed to change anything, and i was pretty much

> on track.

>

>

> >

>

> _,___

>

[Guest guest]

I'm surprised you have not seen this message before Miriam, I keep

attaching it for all our members who are not doing well on levothyroxine and

asking them to go through each of these points by way of a process of

elimination. This was originally written by Dr Peatfield but I have added some

extra stuff into it to bring it right up to date.

Luv - Sheila

What an excellent post, . I hope you

won't mind if I keep a copy to pass on to friends who are just finding out

about how everything fits together?

Miriam

>

> The first step is to understand why Levothyroxine (T4-only) is not

> working for you.... and here is a list of possible reasons, which you need

to eliminate point for point.

[Guest guest]

Presumably this is because I always read messages on the website, so I never see

any attachments. It would be useful if a link to the relevant file was given as

well as an attachment, then we would all learn where to find these useful

documents.

Miriam

> I'm surprised you have not seen this message before Miriam, I keep attaching

it for all our members who are not doing well on levothyroxine and asking them

to go through each of these points by way of a process of elimination.

> This was originally written by Dr Peatfield but I have added some extra stuff

into it to bring it right up to date.

[Guest guest]

You need to go to the FILES Section Miriam and click on

'Hypothyroidism' and then click on 'Why Thyroid Hormone Stops Working'. If I gave

links to every file, as I can't remember them all, I would have to go to the

Files Section, get the link for you, and post it to you - and that would take

up loads of my time, so it is important that members learn how to use the Files

section themselves. However, I will try and remember to tell members who can't

receive attachments that it is in the Files, under 'Hypothyroidism'.

Luv - Sheila

Presumably this is because I always read

messages on the website, so I never see any attachments. It would be useful if

a link to the relevant file was given as well as an attachment, then we would

all learn where to find these useful documents.

Miriam

> I'm surprised you have not seen this message before Miriam, I keep

attaching it for all our members who are not doing well on levothyroxine and

asking them to go through each of these points by way of a process of

elimination.

> This was originally written by Dr Peatfield but I have added some extra

stuff into it to bring it right up to date.