Re: Ferritin: is it me, or is it them?

[Guest guest]

Dear

38 is low. Is it possible that when you had high ferritin or reasonable ferritin that you had an inflammation. Inflammation causes ferritin to rise. The blood in your urine might have been due to inflammation. Have you used to sticks again lately to get a reading?

When I had ferritin of 36 my other iron readings were all high or respectable. I felt like rubbish and was cold and out of breath all the time. Climbing the two flights of stairs in my house left me completely knackered. I was only 45 at the time. It is possible to have high circulating iron and little iron going where it is needed. This may be due to lack of copper and zinc. Both are needed to get iron to where it is needed in the body. Read the copper, iron and zinc pages on www.ithyroid.com. They were an eye opener for me.

MacGilchrist

From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Mon, 9 May, 2011 18:26:06Subject: Ferritin: is it me, or is it them?

Hi allMy ferritin's dropped from 115 to 38, over the course of 18 months or so, and it's dropped from 75 to 38 in the last 5 months.This concerns me

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[Ed]

[Guest guest]

Read the following - there are lots of references to show

your doctor.

Low

iron/ferritin:

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase

reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties

of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron

saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished

intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate

thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)).

1.

Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron

deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative

and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381.

2.

SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic

thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat.

Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3.

Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium

Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to

Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78.

4.

Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone

Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778.

Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low  copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf

http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract

Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

Ferritin levels for women need to be between

70 and 90 (for men around between 150 and 170)

Vitamin B12 needs to be at the top of the

range.

D3 levels need to be about 50.

Magnesium levels need to be at the top of the

range, it's one thing that gets missed a great deal.

Luv - Sheila

Hi all

My ferritin's dropped from 115 to 38, over the course of 18 months or so, and

it's dropped from 75 to 38 in the last 5 months.

This concerns me -->

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila

why aren't these people aware of this basic biology? surely if someon's losing

blood (or ferritin is dropping) then hemoglobin is the last thing to go low?

they are so ignorant. why?

thanks

chris

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> Read the following - there are lots of references to show your doctor.

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[Guest guest]

hi

thanks for your reply

well i possibly had inflammation 2 yrs ago, but also suspect i have itnow, my

CRP levels are elevated. heaven help me if 38 is a distortedly high reading!!

i've not tested urine since, but every time i tested earlier in the year (25

sticks), there was blood there in trace amounts). but i did do a test in gp

surgery and i saw the stick it was negative. maybe i had duff sticks? but the

nurse at the endo clinic did find some blood tho and protein.

i think my copper's low too. this is all a minefield.

should get some answers soon, but not from the NHS.

it is all in my mind... i want low ferritin so ferritin goes lower because that

is all i think of....!

thanks

chris

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> Dear

> 38 is low.  Is it possible that when you had high ferritin or reasonable

> ferritin that you had an inflammation.  Inflammation causes ferritin to

rise. 

> The blood in your urine might have been due to inflammation.  Have you used

to

> sticks again lately to get a reading? 

>

[Guest guest]

had ferritin retested, now it's 72! have no idea what's going on...how can it

go from 30 something to 70 something in amonth? unless it's inflammation?

chris

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> hi

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> thanks for your reply

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> well i possibly had inflammation 2 yrs ago, but also suspect i have itnow, my

CRP levels are elevated. heaven help me if 38 is a