Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Hi miriam, Yes it does because if there is a high T4 and low T3 then it shows poor conversion, but only the urine test will show what has gone further than the blood, but neither really show what is going on at receptor level- eg if the T3 receptors are blocked by RT3Have a look at http://www.thyroidmanager.com for the full explanation of how it all is supposed to work. > thyroid treatment > From: miriam_hinch@...> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:28:11 +0000> Subject: Re: what do I do now. ?> > Does the amount of T3 relative to T4 in the blood give any indication of whether there is a conversion problem? Similarly, does the amount of T3 relative to T4 shown in the 24-hour urine test give any indication of the same?> > Thanks,> Miriam> > > > You need to start educating your GP Carole. Tell her that thyroid function tests ONLY shows the level of T4 and T3 in the blood, along with TSH. > > > > Thyroxine is the main thyroid hormone secreted by the thyroid gland> > (approximately 85% - but it is mainly inactive) and the other 15% being triodothyronine (T3 - which is active). This amount of T3 is insufficient to keep the body functioning, so the T4 converts to T3 through the liver, kidneys, brain, skin and other thyroid hormone receptors throughout the body. > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Clicking on http://www/thyroidmanager.com link doesn't give a full explanation . Can you spend a link to this specific article please. Luv - Sheila Yes it does because if there is a high T4 and low T3 then it shows poor conversion, but only the urine test will show what has gone further than the blood, but neither really show what is going on at receptor level- eg if the T3 receptors are blocked by RT3 Have a look at http://www.thyroidmanager.com for the full explanation of how it all is supposed to work. _,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Is this the link? Jaki http://www.thyroidmanager.org/Chapter6/Ch-6b-4.htm Clicking on http://www/thyroidmanager.com link doesn't give a full explanation . Can you spend a link to this specific article please. Luv - Sheila Yes it does because if there is a high T4 and low T3 then it shows poor conversion, but only the urine test will show what has gone further than the blood, but neither really show what is going on at receptor level- eg if the T3 receptors are blocked by RT3Have a look at http://www.thyroidmanager.com for the full explanation of how it all is supposed to work. _,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 In serum thyroid function tests, if T4 is not converting to the active T3, the free T4 level is often quite high in the reference range and the free T3 is low. Remember though that these tests ONLY show the level of thyroid hormone that is actually in the blood - not in the cells. The 24 hour urine thyroid testing of the levels of free T4 and free T3 show the amount of thyroid hormone that has been used in by the tissues, if levels of T3 are low and T4 is high, again this shows a lack of conversion. It would be a good idea Miriam to read Dr Nigel Abraham's Stockholm Adrenal/Thyroid presentation because it tells all - and is very easy to understand - Dr Abrahams is the Director of Genova Diagnostics - and even TPA gets an honourable mention. http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/adrenal_thyroid_stockholm_sept09.pdf Luv - Sheila Does the amount of T3 relative to T4 in the blood give any indication of whether there is a conversion problem? Similarly, does the amount of T3 relative to T4 shown in the 24-hour urine test give any indication of the same? Thanks, Miriam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 It will be quite long if you insist on seeing him and him alone. However, I should imagine that anybody in his team will be excellent, so you might want to make your own enquiries of his secretary or the great man himself and ask whether there are other doctors there who will prescribe T3/T4 combination. It is always a good indication that a doctor knows more about thyroid disease than the majority of doctors. Please let us know how you get on Carole. Luv - Sheila Im so excited at the possibility of some hel,p that Im getting real worried I wont get to see him before Im moved to England, and he is clearly an excellent choice. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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