Bladder problems

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I was hoping someone alot smarter than me would respond but they haven't so I

will give it a feeble stab. I am not a doctor or even a nutritionist so beware

and be responsible for you and yours. If it was my mother, (or me,) I would

make sure she did some cranberry extract in capsule form first and then I would

make sure she did some type of natural antibiotic to make sure it wasn't a

bacterial thing. Goldenseal is effective, but is is also a natural insulin and

will lower blood sugar, so if that is a problem, something like olive leaf might

be better. And treat it like a regular antibiotic. I would take it for two

weeks several times a day. And I would take acidophilus on the same days at

different times of the day to make sure I kept the good bacteria intact as even

natural anti biotics wack them out.

I would also make sure she drank 6-8 glasses of good water a day. Preferably

treated with Crystal Energy (No I don't sell it) or magnets or whatever, to

make it have a lower surface tension and therefore to penetrate better.

I would also do Devil's claw for two weeks to make sure the kidneys were clean.

And I would get a little exercise unit that has a spring or a ball to squeeze

between the legs to strengthen the muscles that control the bladder.

And if my mom really wanted to get alot healthier, I would encourage her to do

homozon at REALLY low dose, like 1/8th tsp because older people are more

fragile.

But, the pressure and inablitly to urinate and involuntarily urinating sounds

like an infection. Maybe not the acute type that causes a fever, but the

chronic type that is just a nuisance.

Hope this helps and remember, I am NOT prescribing. Just sharing what I would

do to help myself.

Donna

oxyplus <oxyplus >

Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:03 PM

Subject: Bladder Problems

My mother has recently informed me of a problem that my Grandmother has been

having for quite some time now. She has no contol over her bladder and has

been wearing Depends underwear/diapers for about six months. She complains

of having the feeling of needing to urinate, but when she goes to the

bathroom nothing happens. Then when she leaves the bathroom, within five

minutes, she is flowing. She drinks hardly any water. She drinks coffee

and teas and juices. She is 76 years old and is not on any doctor

prescribed medications for anything. She takes a multivitamin when she

remembers. She recently had an operation for fluid on the brain and seems

to have recovered well and is better than she was before. Some days she is

mentally very alert and all is well and other days you can't have a

conversation with her, she is really out of it. But that was the case all

the time before the operation. Is there anyone out there that knows of

anything that she could be doing to help control her bladder and for her

mental state?

Rose

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Rose,

My mother had almost immediate cessation of a like problem when she used

Vitamin O. Can't say more about that than that. BUT, the old lady drins

coffee & teas but no water -- and she wonders why she has a bladder

problem??? Tell her to get real! She needs to drink a LOT of water for a

long time to flush out all of the water-soluble toxins she is storing.

That's the reason she has to urinate when she drinks water. Her body

will do almost anything to get rid of those toxins.

Really, this is a no-brainer!

jim

Rosemarie Geiger wrote:

>

> My mother has recently informed me of a problem that my Grandmother has been

> having for quite some time now. She has no contol over her bladder and has

> been wearing Depends underwear/diapers for about six months. She complains

> of having the feeling of needing to urinate, but when she goes to the

> bathroom nothing happens. Then when she leaves the bathroom, within five

> minutes, she is flowing. She drinks hardly any water. She drinks coffee

> and teas and juices. She is 76 years old and is not on any doctor

> prescribed medications for anything. She takes a multivitamin when she

> remembers. She recently had an operation for fluid on the brain and seems

> to have recovered well and is better than she was before. Some days she is

> mentally very alert and all is well and other days you can't have a

> conversation with her, she is really out of it. But that was the case all

> the time before the operation. Is there anyone out there that knows of

> anything that she could be doing to help control her bladder and for her

> mental state?

>

> Rose

> ____-----

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http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Yes, for her bladder (and may help her mental state), you seem to

know that she needs to be drinking plain water! Citrus, coffee and

tea are all bladder irritants.

>My mother has recently informed me of a problem that my Grandmother has been

>having for quite some time now. She has no contol over her bladder and has

>been wearing Depends underwear/diapers for about six months. She complains

>of having the feeling of needing to urinate, but when she goes to the

>bathroom nothing happens. Then when she leaves the bathroom, within five

>minutes, she is flowing. She drinks hardly any water. She drinks coffee

>and teas and juices. She is 76 years old and is not on any doctor

>prescribed medications for anything. She takes a multivitamin when she

>remembers. She recently had an operation for fluid on the brain and seems

>to have recovered well and is better than she was before. Some days she is

>mentally very alert and all is well and other days you can't have a

>conversation with her, she is really out of it. But that was the case all

>the time before the operation. Is there anyone out there that knows of

>anything that she could be doing to help control her bladder and for her

>mental state?

>

>Rose

[Guest guest]

I am new to this site but through my reading your emails, have realized that

some of the problems my daughter had 3 years ago were OCD - we had similar

urination problems and thought for sure it was a bladder infection. Every test

was negative but the urges were still there. She had to have special bathrooms

passes at school, she cou;dn't go too far in a car or any place away from a

bathroom. As many times we would tell her she didn't need to go, she said she

did and insisted that she " try " . We finally took her for counseling and she was

successfully treated with weekly visits to a psychologist who never mentioned it

could be OCD - now, 3 years later she has full blown OCD - after you rule out

anything medical with the tests, I would consider it OCD. Good luck.

<lauraj2@...> wrote: This is very interesting. I

wish I had seen all of this before we went to the pedi last week. Ben

periodically gets this having to go, every 15 minutes thing. Then it starts to

hurt and it seem to start a cycle. We take him to the dr. and there is nothing

wrong. We've even been to the urologist. He said it was probably constipation.

The pedi dr. asked if it could be a compulsion, but wasn't sure since he said it

hurt in his bladder. It seems to come and go. This one seem to coincide with his

friend telling him that he had to have surgery on his penis. Ben was talking

about it all of the time, if he would have to have surgery, what is was, all of

that. I recognized that as OCD, but not the urinary thing. But, interestingly

enough, we saw the dr. she took the test, said he was fine in that regards. And

he hasn't been going as much. Hmmm.

J

Re: restroom issues

Kim,

I've been through bathroom issues like this many times with my 9yo

OCD'er . It was never an infection, just her OCD. The main

thing to look for is whether he is having anxiety at the time he feels

the need to go. Like before the game, maybe nerves brought it on.

Once my daughter started with it (brought on by some form of anxiety)

she'd feel the need all the time, could only focus on that.

Definitely get a urine test, you can get a cup to bring home for him

to go in, then take to the office. It's simple and will eliminate one

posiibility anyway.

Good Luck-

nna.

NY

>

> I've written in the past about my eldest son, AS, ocd whole lotta

other stuff...

> This is about my totally normal (fingers crossed) youngest, age 10.

> He has been doing some repeating of 'good night' when he goes to

bed, as if it needs to be the last thing he says. Okay, I can live

with that. We try to 'disrupt' it, but it's not something I want to

call OCD.

> Now, though, he's having trouble with his bladder and I don't know

if it's something for his GP, or if it too might be OCD.

> He says he can't ever fully empty his bladder. He'll pee, then 30

seconds later feel like he has to go again, tries, some urine dribbles

out, then waits, feels like he has to go a few seconds later, tries

agian, some more dribbles out...

> All summer long, he'd run into the house to pee, then run back in a

few seconds or minutes later complaining " I hate my bladder " to pee

again. I've pretty much ignored it (because our doc is away until Oct.

and there's no one else. Medical system problems here in Canada.)

> Last night, before a big hockey tournament game, he says he was in

the washroom for 15 minutes because every time he thought he was done,

he wasn't. Said his teammates were all yelling at him 'what are you

doing in there?' and 'geez, took you long enough'. He's embarassed.

> I am wondering... His dad's a bit like this. Over-analyzes little

body sensations until he's convinced it's a medical problem. (Ooooh,

he'd hate to hear me say this. DELETE everyone!) Anyway, I do believe

dh has OCD, and he kinda thinks so too.

> Is it possble youngest ds has something like this going on? I mean,

the more you think about your bladder and if it's completely empty,

the more you think maybe it's not. And maybe the mroe you try to pee

over and over again, the more you maybe irritate those muscles, or

something?

> I hate to have him go through bladder testing when I sorta suspect

it's more an OCD thing. He's freaked at the idea of a doctor looking

'down there'. At the same time, it's becoming a bigger issue for him.

I suggested he try to ignore the feeling that he has to go 'again',

and get on with life. He says if he ignores it, he'll only have to

really 'go' in a few minutes. Told me as he left for school his new

plan is to go every hour.

> What do you think?

> kimz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne:

Are you having pain with the frequent urination? or just the urination? Frequent

urination is a symptom of low Aldosterone. How are you salt levels? Aldosterone

is basically a hormone which controls the balance of salt in the system. It

holds the salt in because we need it in the system, if you are continually

urinating, you are continually excreting salt out of the body. It needs to be

replaced. Celtic sea salt in water several times a day is a good start to see if

the symptoms subside.

In my case, years ago, this meant that I needed to start on bioidentical

progesterone and estradiol.

Cheers,

JOT

> I am now posting a question for myself. Is anyone else suffering from

overactive bladder? I am having terrible " control " problems. The consultant

has prescribed Detrusitol, but I am finding it difficult to tolerate, as it

causes dry mounth and eyes and indigestion, to mention a few side effects. The

only other treatment they can offer me is Botox - which I might consider for a

couple of wrinkles, but not this problem.

> I cannot travel very far because of this problem, which I feel is made worse

by stress.

>

> I have seen on other websites, that there is a connection between underactive

thyroid and OAB syndrome and I wondered if anyone had tried an alternative

treatment - acupunture or hypnotherapy, for instance.

>

> Luv,

> Anne xx

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

Are you peeing a lot or are you just having problems holding it..... if it's

the latter, depending on your age, and state of progesterone and estrogen, it

could possibly be helped with Ovestin cream which is oestriol or with vagifem

tablets (pessaries) which are also estriol.

The ovestin cream and the vagifem s work locally and don't mess up your whole

body by flooding it with estrogen....

..

>

> Hi,

>

> I am now posting a question for myself. Is anyone else suffering from

overactive bladder? I am having terrible " control " problems.

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

Thank you to all who replied to my posting about the above. I have read all the

replies and want to thank you for all your help and suggestions. I will be

trying all the ones not already tried.

I think being post menopausal (62) is the main problem and I know my oestrogen

is low, as I had it tested. I am taking a low dose combined HRT and also

ovestin cream - but I still have the OAB urgency - very urgently at times!

I bought a battery operated pelvic floor exerciser, which has a program for

Urgency, but this has had limited success. Dr. P thought that the natural

progesterone cream would solve the problem. I tried this for a while, but it

didn't seem to help. I think I will also try the acupuncture and hypnosis, as I

feel that stress has a bearing on my problem.

Many thanks.

Luv,

Anne xx