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Hi, oh I do sympathise. In a not dissimilar position - I've just come back from the corner shop and managed to resist the Cadbury's cream eggs lined up at the front. (I used to be able to eat or drink anything). It's v. hard. However - I've recently discovered avocados. I order 6 every week. They taste delicious with prawns or soft boiled eggs mashed into them and flax oil - also with some celery or green beans. Any more ideas, I'll let you know! Oh - I've started making lots of homemade soups too - they're quite filling. I'm not clear myself about nuts and seeds. Some diets say yes and others definite no. I love brazils - full of magnesium too.All best, Alison>> Hello everyone,> > This will probably (hopefully) bring a chuckle to a few of you who are in similar positions......What on earth am I >

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> So, I know I should be eating no gluten, sugar, soya & avoiding

certain vegetables & nuts but what can I eat I am wondering!

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> For starchy carbs someone kindly informed me on the forum that wild

rice ** was ok, what about brown rice, ok or not ok? I also know that

buckwheat is fine, quinoa, polenta, millet & maize, correct? Anything

else?

** brown rice is mostly wild rice, all it means is that it has the husk

still on it.

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> For protein - I think the following are ok....**eggs, cheese, fish,

yoghurt, miso, sea-vegetables, legumes (i.e. chick peas when eaten with

rice & seeds/nuts) - or are legumes out for my candida count?

**Eggs are rich in selenium so they are good, cheese high in calcium

(big tick) yoghurt you have to watch as the low fat ones are full of

fillers!!

Legumes are good but not raw.

> I believe that all veg & salad is ok (apart from a few exclusions such

as brussel sprouts).

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> I've been eating **Quorn as a frequent part of my protein diet for

many years now

** There is NO protein in Quorn, it is a fungus and as such does not

have any!! Chick peas, pulses and nuts are loaded with proteins.

I was thinking of using **Tofu as the substitute but have since realised

that soya isn't good for adrenal fatigue or hypothyroidism so I presume

Tofu is out too?

**Yes from what I can gather too much soya is really bad!!

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> On the sugars front...I know fruit is out....presumably Xylitol (sugar

substitute used in cooking etc) is out & carob as of the candida count?

**Have no idea......

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> Thanks in advance for any ideas received.......I know I need to

research this some more but ironically when you have these bits & bobs

wrong with you its a real struggle to find the energy to do it! Sound

familiar?! :o) Think I might end up having to see a diet specialist to

make sure I don't starve or live on omelette!

I have heard from my cousin who is hypo and gluten sensitive that Tesco

and Asda do wide ranges of gluten free food. As I am about to embark on

a gluten free diet myself I'll let you know......

Glynis

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Hi Kerry,

I know – no laughing matter.... but I couldn't help myself when I read your post. It's a toss-up between laughing or crying, I guess.

My personal philosophy is – like with most things in life – as long as we don't overdo things, almost everything is allowed occasionally and within reason. I don't think the occasional gluten- or sugary food will do serious harm unless you were celiac or had a Candida count as high as mine used to be (>150 with a ref of <10).

I'm no cook nor knowledgeable about nutrition. I bought my Aga for warmth, not for actually spending time cooking on it. I am probably the last person to ask about food – I don't really know what I am doing in the kitchen. It's warm, that's why I am there a lot.... When I was faced with my high Candida count, I was looking for someone to tell me what to do now... – I found Tripp's site.

http://candidarecovery.com/diet.htm

is American – Americans seem to have different food. Half of the foods she is talking about I had never even heard of, but I made do with the other half that I recognized. I started to experiment in desperation. At times I was so desperate for cakes and sweet stuff that I improvised.... My husband refused to eat my sugar-free/grain-free rock-hard cakes (and he usually eats everything ... he has to, he's married to me) .... my dog was less choosy.

From what I can gather – any Candida diet is largely also gluten-free by necessity, since you have to avoid grains... so you are more than half-way there when you stick to a Candida diet.

According to (in the above link) – yes brown rice is ok in small portions and carob is ok too. Fresh nuts are fine (preferably still in their shells, but I used to cheat and buy organic ones that were ready to eat). Presumably you will be able to make much more sense of all those foods that are mentioned and hopefully you (unlike me) will also know what to do with them J

Good luck,

Love,

xx

PS – on the Candida front NO alcohol is allowed, of course, but on the Gluten front wine, cider and vodka apparently are J J - hope I haven't been misinformed.....

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Kerry,

Check

out the CANDIDA FOLDER in our FILES ACCESSIBLE FROM THE HOME PAGE OF THIS FORUM

WEB SITE http@.../group.thyroidpatientadvocacy

and you will see there are several candida diets to choose from in there.

Here

is a link that Gill has just posted to me to a web site that has freely

available and read to print cards in lots of languages about being gluten free,

which you might find very helpful if you are planning to go gluten free.

http://www.celiactravel.com/cards/

Luv - Sheila

Hi Kerry,

I know – no

laughing matter.... but I couldn't help myself when I read your post. It's a

toss-up between laughing or crying, I guess.

My personal

philosophy is – like with most things in life – as long

as we don't overdo things, almost everything is allowed occasionally and within

reason. I don't think the occasional gluten- or sugary food will do serious

harm unless you were celiac or had a Candida count as high as mine used to be

(>150 with a ref of <10).

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Hi - I know it's all a bit hit and miss, but here are a few things to try - legumes and grains can be soaked and sprouted (lots of info on web) and can then be eaten raw (and therefore alive) so vit. and min. count greatly increases, and doesn't produce flatulence - yay! ( a few you have to cook like soya and kidney beans).

Also its recommended to soak nuts and seeds overnight to make them more digestible and 'bio-available' (again - lots of info on web).

Quorn has lots of additives - it's worth doing an exclusion diet to see what does and does not help/hinder. Keep up intake of flax oil/ ground flax for omega 3. I also make oat crackers as an alternative to bread (v. easy), and have brewers yeast spread, olives, coconut, and lots of fresh herbs and spices - delish!. All the best! -

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> So, I know I should be eating no gluten, sugar, soya & avoiding certain

vegetables & nuts but what can I eat I am wondering!

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> hi kerry (i think that's your name!)

on top of NDT and adrenal support, plus full spectrum vitamins, minerals, and

high doses of CoQ10, i started to suspect my lingering lethargy and twice a week

migraines might be the result of food issues, after reading that most people who

suffer migraines feel it is the bedrest that has done them good, but the severe

migraines i was experiencing were making me take to my bed for 2-3 days at a

time, and the article pointed out that during that time YOU DON'T EAT....it's

true, i realised! it takes 4 days for foods to clear out of your system,

however, like you, i was running around in circles!

google 'philpots 4 day diet', which groups families together, so you basically

overdose on a family every four days. doing this, i found i cannot eat onions

(migraine and fatigue, even small amounts give me sinus problems and swollen

bags under my eyes), milk and gluten is out for the same reasons, as is potatoes

(diarrhea...did you want to know that!???) in fact it's all the british staples

i have eaten all my life! i kept a diary, at some point i will discuss this

with my doc but for now just want to keep making progress - i know when i've

been slipping as i start to get sinusy and headachy again. stoneage diet is a

good starting point too. you'll have to do your own research, we're lucky on

this forum we have sheila and a whole range of others to answer every question

known to mankind (and womankind!) about our thyroid and adrenal issues - i

honestly mean it when i say i don't know where i'd be without this forum! good

luck - don't ever give up on your health! deb xxx

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Hi Kerry,

As far as I've read xylitol is ok for an anti-candida diet as yeast cannot feed

on it. Be careful with it though, as too much can upset your stomach. If I am

following a recipe I use about a third less xylitol compared to sugar.

I also found that taking one Chromium Picolinate capsule, 500 mcg has really

helped to avoid sugar cravings.

I am avoiding all refined sugar products now and find that after a while you

don't crave it so much anyway, but the Chromium Picolinate helps initially. If I

eat one sugary thing then I find I really want more so it's all or nothing for

me!

I think a little bit of carob would be ok (though not sure!) I guess it depends

how bad your candida is? I recently bought some raw carob powder from ebay quite

cheap, but I haven't had the energy to make anything with it yet!

I agree it is a minefield!

Being veggie, I tend to eat lots of salads with added pulses (chick peas, kidney

beans etc.) and I also make a homemade concoction by frying up onions, garlic,

red peppers, courgettes then adding pepper, chilli powder, 2 x tins tomatoes,

green lentils, chick peas and let it simmer.

I vary it a bit and sometimes add potatoes, carrots, sliced black olives, aduki

beans, red kidney beans, butter beans etc depending on what I have in the

cupboard!

To vary the consistency I some times chop everything up very small or whizz it

up a bit with a handblender to make it into a satisfying thick soup.

Good luck!

x

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> On the sugars front...I know fruit is out....presumably Xylitol (sugar

substitute used in cooking etc) is out & carob as of the candida count?

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Thanks Alison, the avocado idea below sounds delicious! Will give it a whirl, thank you. 

I've recently discovered avocados. I order 6 every week. They taste delicious with prawns or soft boiled eggs mashed into them and flax oil - also with some celery or green beans.

 All best, Alison

 

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Hi Glynis, Blimey, I didn't realise that about Quorn! Thanks for the tip off. Kerry x

** There is NO protein in Quorn, it is a fungus and as such does not

have any!! Chick peas, pulses and nuts are loaded with proteins.

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>** There is NO protein in Quorn, it is a fungus and as such does not

have any!! Chick peas, pulses and nuts are loaded with proteins.

are you sure? i checked on the quorn website - i remember i used to eat quorn

as a chicken alternative - and it says it does have protein in it, myco protein.

" Mycoprotein is a high quality meat free protein. It has all the essential amino

acids you'd find in others proteins like beef or chicken. "

http://www.quorn.co.uk/About-Quorn/

chris

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and problems right now with possible E-Coli. I would steer clear

of sprouting seeds for the moment until they have found out what is the true

cause of so many suffering right now.

Luv - Sheila

you can also eat sprouted seeds like mung bean

and radish? supposed to be hihg in nutrients...

chris

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Thats odd mushrooms are both fungus and protein? Sally xx

hmm i do find that very hard to believe.>> No fungus makes protein there is no protein in Quorn - regardless of the sales talk.> >

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