RE: do sleeping pills help regulate adrenals?

[Guest guest]

do you know your cortisol levels are high at night?

if so do you know why they are high?

seriphos might help, if it's high...

>

> Reading how important it is for adrenals, for us to get 8-10 hrs sleep every

night, but being unable to for some years, I cant help wondering if sleeping

pill would benefit and allow adrenals that rest time, or if it would cause other

problems instead. Anyone know the answer please?

>

> Carole

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I don't have any links to hand at the moment regarding this but ...............I had high cortisol for a while - if I got upset or eat foods late at night - particularly fruit - it can stimulate the adrenals to overproduce cortisol - it will then be difficult to get to sleep.

As you are aware cortisol has a rhythm and that between the hours of 10-12 growth hormone cortisol etc are being produced - therefore if you have been upset and have produced too much of the wrong hormone (adrenaline) then you will be alert and unable to relax.

Sorry this sounds a little muddled but hope it helps - I know what I mean ..........

Best wishes

Mandy

[Guest guest]

my cortisol is low on waking, but in range the other three, overall ratio is

low. comment says stage is adrenal exhaustion.

DHEA is low for both samples

My thinking was that I keep waking at night so perhaps my adrenals would

improve if I popped a pill for a bit to let them have their full needed

overnight resting. I dont want sleep pills but if they would help adrenals Id

try them.

waiting to see endo who I doubt will be much help.

Carole

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- In thyroid treatment , " " <chrisjtaylor46@...> wrote:

>

> do you know your cortisol levels are high at night?

>

> if so do you know why they are high?

>

> seriphos might help, if it's high...

>

[Guest guest]

doyou know why you wake at night? Is it possible you have sleep apnea? (i have

this so i make sure i ask people if they have it as iknow it's hellish and can

cause dreadful problems)

have you considerd natural remedies for sleep? hops, valerian etc rather than

sleeping tablets as such, or is that what you mean by sleeping tablets?

have you considered a dawn simulating alarm clock? more important for winter

(unless you have very thick curtains i suppose!) but that can hepl get the body

in a regular rhythym;maybe dawn'd stimulate adrenals to start to wake up?

are you waiting to see endo before taking any adrenal support?

chris

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> my cortisol is low on waking, but in range the other three, overall ratio is

low. comment says stage is adrenal exhaustion.

>

> DHEA is low for both samples

>

[Guest guest]

If this was me, I would be trying natural Melatonin Carole. I

would try taking the 3mgs tablets which you can purchase from Biovea in the UK.

I got my sleep patterns well adjusted by taking Melatonin, but you do need to

have a thoroughly darkened room when you go to bed with no flimsy curtains

showing street lighting outside.

Luv - Sheila

Reading how important it is for adrenals, for

us to get 8-10 hrs sleep every night, but being unable to for some years, I

cant help wondering if sleeping pill would benefit and allow adrenals that rest

time, or if it would cause other problems instead. Anyone know the answer

please?

Carole

[Guest guest]

Hi Mandy

I dont have high cortisol, I am said to be in adrenal exhaustion stage. I

usually get to sleep when I lay down, but dont stay asleep long enough for it to

be refreshing, wake a couple of times.

Carole

>

> Hi there,

>

> I don't have any links to hand at the moment regarding this but

> ...............I had high cortisol for a while - if I got upset or eat foods

> late at night - particularly fruit - it can stimulate the adrenals to

> overproduce cortisol - it will then be difficult to get to sleep.

>

> As you are aware cortisol has a rhythm and that between the hours of 10-12

> growth hormone cortisol etc are being produced - therefore if you have been

> upset and have produced too much of the wrong hormone (adrenaline) then you

> will be alert and unable to relax.

>

> Sorry this sounds a little muddled but hope it helps - I know what I mean

> ..........

>

> Best wishes

>

> Mandy

>

[Guest guest]

Carole, please read Dr Peatfield's paper about Thyroid and

Adrenal Dysfunction - you will learn a lot and this will help you understand

what is happening and what you need to do about it. http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/thyroid_adrenal_dysfunction.pdf

Luv - Sheila

Hi Mandy

I dont have high cortisol, I am said to be in adrenal exhaustion stage. I

usually get to sleep when I lay down, but dont stay asleep long enough for it

to be refreshing, wake a couple of times.

Carole

[Guest guest]

low progesterone can - from what i read - cause sleep issues as well as low

melatonin?

just a thought - don't know how that works in a woman or how much women produce,

but i know men need a little...

chris

>

> Hi Mandy

> I dont have high cortisol, I am said to be in adrenal exhaustion stage. I

usually get to sleep when I lay down, but dont stay asleep long enough for it to

be refreshing, wake a couple of times.

[Guest guest]

consider taking melatonin this is a natural hormone whihc occurs at night whilst seratonin falls and this see saweffect happens in accordance with the light of day and dark of night. Use black out curtains when you sleep to encourage your own natural melatonin but you can take this as a sleeping aid. It doesnt affect you in the same way as sleeping tablets. Further you need to go through the whole thing of supporting your adrenals for this to change ultimately. Remember part of your adrenalsupport is preventing hypoglycaemia..this occurs usually around 2-3am...take low GI foods at night and take a bite of a banana when you wake at night this will help you fall back to sleep. There is no immediate

cure this happens slowly over time. Sally xx

Reading how important it is for adrenals, for us to get 8-10 hrs sleep every night, but being unable to for some years, I cant help wondering if sleeping pill would benefit and allow adrenals that rest time, or if it would cause other problems instead. Anyone know the answer please?

[Guest guest]

> My thinking was that I keep waking at night so perhaps my adrenals would

improve if I popped a pill for a bit to let them have their full needed

overnight resting. I dont want sleep pills but if they would help adrenals Id

try them.

hi carole

just a thought but as an experriment you could try taking both vit c and vit b5

(pantothenic acid) last thing just before you turn out your light...the vit c

helps with nocturnal glucose control and b5 is food for the adrenals and

essential to support the body's use of t3. i think i'm right in saying that we

produce t3 at night (as well as in the day) and it could be that low adrenal

status makes it difficult to support the t3 and this might be waking you up. if

the adrenals are struggling to produce the right amount of hormones (and at the

natural times of day and night) they may be producing too much adrenaline (for

example) and this too could be waking you up.

i do hope you find a solution because (from my own experience) interrupted sleep

and sleep deprivation acts like a form of torture...i generally only wake once

in the night now since trying vit c and b5.

best wishes.

trish

>

> waiting to see endo who I doubt will be much help.

> Carole

[Guest guest]

my cortisol is low on waking, but in range the other three, overall ratio is low. comment says stage is adrenal exhaustion.DHEA is low for both samplesMy thinking was that I keep waking at night so perhaps my adrenals would improve if I popped a pill for a bit to let them have their full needed overnight resting. I dont want sleep pills but if they would help adrenals Id try them.waiting to see endo who I doubt will be much help.Carole--

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[Guest guest]

HI Carole,

sorry I didn't explain myself fully - I had the wrong type of steroid hormone - if transcortine goes high it means the cortisol is not getting through to the cells - so I was over producing adrenaline sweating etc. with any slight upset - just watching the news would upset me - and it was due to complete adrenal exhaustion - I am now on cortisol and my symptoms have improved. But........if you are low on adrenal hormones then it involves all the steroid hormones including oestrogen etc. and often this being low causes wakefulness.

This might help explain a little better.

http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue-related-health-conditions/sleep-disruptions.html

Best wishes

Mandy

[Guest guest]

(this is a re-send because it hasn't turned up yet although another post i made

after this has turned up ... hell no doubt!)

> My thinking was that I keep waking at night so perhaps my adrenals would

improve if I popped a pill for a bit to let them have their full needed

overnight resting. I dont want sleep pills but if they would help adrenals Id

try them.

hi carole

just a thought but as an experriment you could try taking both vit c and vit b5

(pantothenic acid) last thing just before you turn out your light...the vit c

helps with nocturnal glucose control and b5 is food for the adrenals and

essential to support the body's use of t3. i think i'm right in saying that we

produce t3 at night (as well as in the day) and it could be that low adrenal

status makes it difficult to support the t3 and this might be waking you up. if

the adrenals are struggling to produce the right amount of hormones (and at the

natural times of day and night) they may be producing too much adrenaline (for

example) and this too could be waking you up.

i do hope you find a solution because (from my own experience) interrupted sleep

and sleep deprivation acts like a form of torture...i generally only wake once

in the night now since trying vit c and b5.

best wishes.

trish

>

> waiting to see endo who I doubt will be much help.

> Carole

[Guest guest]

Thanks Trish et all for replies and ideas, much appreciated and Im sure

helpful. Fingers crossed.

Carole.

--- In thyroid treatment , " Trish " <fielddot@...> would help

adrenals Id try them.

>

> hi carole

>

> just a thought but as an experriment you could try taking both vit c and vit

b5 (pantothenic acid) last thing just before you turn out your light...the vit c

helps with nocturnal glucose control and b5 is food for the adrenals and

essential to support the body's use of t3.

[Guest guest]

Hi Trish and Carole,

I would agree with Trish but would add magnesium too at night. This has the effect of supporting the adrenals and relaxing muscle and nerves/brain. take immediately before going to bed. Mangesium citrate is easily bioavailable and probably the cheapest form. Buy magnesium powder for best value and further if your fed up of supplements in tablet/capsule form take magensium oil...although probably more expensive. This is for external use only to massage into your skin. The effect is the same.

sally xx

> My thinking was that I keep waking at night so perhaps my adrenals would improve if I popped a pill for a bit to let them have their full needed overnight resting. I dont want sleep pills but if they would help adrenals Id try them.just a thought but as an experriment you could try taking both vit c and vit b5 (pantothenic acid) last thing just before you turn out your light...the vit c helps with nocturnal glucose control and b5 is food for the adrenals and essential to support the body's use of t3. i think i'm right in saying that we produce t3 at night (as well as in the day) and it could be that low adrenal status makes it difficult to support the t3 and this might be waking you up. if the adrenals are struggling to produce the right amount of hormones (and at the natural times of day and night) they may be producing too much adrenaline (for example) and this too could be waking you

up.