THE IMPORTANCE OF VITAMIN B12

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If you get a chance to read this website, it will give you extra added info on

why vitamin B12 is so important to our diets. More than anything, I spend a

great deal of time discussing these matters with vegetarians. I am an animal

lover as well, but when it comes to health, I add a bit of meat and an egg here

and there.

Great info here:

http://shanonhilton.blogspot.com/2011/05/b12-deficiency-epidemic.html

(save this to your health folder for future reference)

Cheers,

JOT

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Hi JOT,

Thanks for posting this as I am keen to read up on B vitamins. Very interesting

what she says about deficiency in the soil caused by soil erosion & agriculture.

My (holistic) vet said the same thing as I feed my dogs a mainly raw meat & veg

diet. He recommends adding a multi vit & min supplement as we can't guarantee

vegetables have the nutrients they used to?

I'm a bit confused when she writes in her blog " Our body cannot manufacture

vitamin B12; therefore, we must rely on animal products for its source. "

But there are plenty of B12 supplements available that are suitable for

vegetarians/vegans? (Solgar & Biocare spring to mind?)

It may not be natural but we don't have to eat liver etc. I'm sure it must work

out cheaper buying b12 supplements than buying the organic liver that she is

recommending?

x

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> If you get a chance to read this website, it will give you extra added info on

why vitamin B12 is so important to our diets. More than anything, I spend a

great deal of time discussing these matters with vegetarians. I am an animal

lover as well, but when it comes to health, I add a bit of meat and an egg here

and there.

>

> Great info here:

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> http://shanonhilton.blogspot.com/2011/05/b12-deficiency-epidemic.html

>

>

> (save this to your health folder for future reference)

>

> Cheers,

> JOT

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Hi :

Our soil no longer carries the nutrients it used to so we can't be assured that

these nutrients are in our food. Dr Jarvis wrote about this over 25 years ago in

his book : Folk Medicine. He is also one of the first Drs to research our

desperate need for iodine. Do you give your dogs iodine supplements as well,

? Most of us on the iodine protocol do this as well, my dogs are much

healthier.

Vitamin B12 is not produced in the body, it is something we must rely on by

supplement or by food product. Just like iodine, and salt...our bodies do not

produce these on their own, we must rely on outside sources. The thing about

Vitamin B-12 is that it absorbs easier in the

methyl form than the Cyanocobalamin form, yet most people by the Cyanocobalamin

because it is more readily used by producers. Cyanocobalamin has to convert to

the methyl form in the body to be used properly. Methyl is more in it's natural

state and doesn't need to go through the conversion process.

This is a product in the methyl form:

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methyl-B-12-1000-mcg-100-Lozenges/129?at=0

Check your bottle to see what it says....maybe you've got the methyl !!

It's like Vitamin A... you want it in Beta Carotene form, which is the natural

form and doesn't need to go through a conversion process in the system.

Cheers,

JOT

> I'm a bit confused when she writes in her blog " Our body cannot manufacture

vitamin B12; therefore, we must rely on animal products for its source. "

[Guest guest]

Do you give your dogs iodine supplements as well, ? Most of us on the iodine

protocol do this as well, my dogs are much healthier.

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I've always given my dogs a pinch of kelp in their dinners or in a homemade

liver-cake. Do you think that is enough?

I need to read up on this Iodine protocol. Is there a seperate forum for that or

a useful website?

The thing about Vitamin B-12 is that it absorbs easier in the

> methyl form than the Cyanocobalamin form...

Thank you. That's exactly the sort of information I needed.

I am just making a list of things I need to order and it is so confusing as

there are so many different products on the market!

I don't want to get ripped off buying overpriced supplements but on the other

hand I don't want to buy something cheap but ineffective that is full of fillers

& nowt else?

I am already taking Nutri's Adrenomax, Biocare multivitamin & mineral, 9 grammes

of vitamin C, Chromium Picolinate 500ug (Solgar) (to fight sugar cravings!) and

some pink himalayan sea salt.

I've already ordered Source Naturals, Advanced Ferrochel, 180 Tablets

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Advanced-Ferrochel-180-Tablets/1021?at=0 as

I am very low in iron.

And I am going to order the B12 you suggested along with:

Now Foods, Selenium, Yeast Free, 200 mcg, 180 Vcaps

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Selenium-Yeast-Free-200-mcg-180-Vcaps/818?at=0

Life Extension, DHEA, 25 mg, 100 Dissolve in Mouth Tablets

http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-DHEA-25-mg-100-Dissolve-in-Mouth-Tablets/404\

8?at=0

(My adrenal test showed I am v.low in this).

Country Life, Gluten Free, CoQ10, 100 mg, 60 Veggie Softgels

http://www.iherb.com/Country-Life-CoQ10-100-mg-60-Veggie-Softgels/11668?at=1

North American Herb & Spice Co., OregaMax, 90 Veggie Caps

http://www.iherb.com/North-American-Herb-Spice-Co-OregaMax-90-Veggie-Caps/7694?a\

t=0 (to fight candida)

Do you think these are ok formulations please?? And is there anything else I am

missing out supplement wise?

My choice is limited as I need veggie, gluten free & dairy free products.

Thanks again for your help & sorry to hijack your thread!

x

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Hi ....

> I've always given my dogs a pinch of kelp in their dinners or in a homemade

liver-cake. Do you think that is enough?

> I need to read up on this Iodine protocol. Is there a seperate forum for that

or a useful website?

Iodine group:

iodine/

Iodine protocol:

These are required to support the body while supplementing with iodine:

a. Vit C – 2,000 – 5,000 mgs / day – supports the symporters and assists

as an antioxidant to detoxing.

b. Selenium – 200 – 400 mcg / day – needed for detoxification and thyroid

hormone creation.

c. Unrefined salt (Celtic) – ½ tsp / day – supports adrenals, binds to

bromide and assists in removal, supports symporters (sodium iodine symporters or

NIS)

d. Magnesium – 400 mgs / day – critical for over 300 enzyme reactions in

the body.

e. Optional – ATP CoFactors -1 tablet 2x / day – when individuals continue

to feel fatigued or have autoimmune thyroid disease this product can assist in

increasing ATP (energy) within the cells. Riboflavin and no-flush niacin.

I give my dogs 6.25 mgs of Iodoral ( 1/2 tablet) a day. We no longer recommend

kelp because it may be full of heavy metals.

> I am already taking Nutri's Adrenomax, Biocare multivitamin & mineral, 9

grammes of vitamin C, Chromium Picolinate 500ug (Solgar) (to fight sugar

cravings!) and some pink himalayan sea salt.

YOU NEED TO ADD MAGNESIUM TO THIS LIST...AT LEAST 400 MGS A DAY.

> I've already ordered Source Naturals, Advanced Ferrochel, 180 Tablets

> http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Advanced-Ferrochel-180-Tablets/1021?at=0

as I am very low in iron.

EXCELLENT

>

> Now Foods, Selenium, Yeast Free, 200 mcg, 180 Vcaps

> http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Selenium-Yeast-Free-200-mcg-180-Vcaps/818?at=0

EXCELLENT

>

> Life Extension, DHEA, 25 mg, 100 Dissolve in Mouth Tablets

>

http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-DHEA-25-mg-100-Dissolve-in-Mouth-Tablets/404\

8?at=0

> (My adrenal test showed I am v.low in this).

THIS MAY BE TOO MUCH DHEA IN ONCE DOSE.....SOME PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE WITH 25 MGS.

I ONLY TAKE 5 MGS AT A TIME, ANY MORE GIVES ME HORRID HEADACHES. YOU'LL HAVE TO

DECIDE ON THAT. IF YOU BUY A LOWER MG LIKE 5 OR 10 MGS YOU CAN CONTROL IT

EASIER.

> Country Life, Gluten Free, CoQ10, 100 mg, 60 Veggie Softgels

> http://www.iherb.com/Country-Life-CoQ10-100-mg-60-Veggie-Softgels/11668?at=1

EXCELLENT

>

> North American Herb & Spice Co., OregaMax, 90 Veggie Caps

>

http://www.iherb.com/North-American-Herb-Spice-Co-OregaMax-90-Veggie-Caps/7694?a\

t=0 (to fight candida)

YOU DO NEED THE OREGANOL (SUPER STRENGTH IN GEL CAPS for the Candida) I ASSUME

YOU ARE NOT LISTING THOSE BECAUSE THE GEL CAPS ARE MADE OF BEEF STOCK. I

UNDERSTAND YOUR SPIRITUAL, MYSTICAL, EMOTIONAL, AND PHYSICAL NEED FOR BEING A

VEGETARIAN, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS WHICH YOU'LL HAVE TO CHANGE IF YOU WANT TO

HEAL. WE ALL GO THROUGH THIS AND WE ARE HEALTHIER BECAUSE WE DID....

http://www.iherb.com/North-American-Herb-Spice-Co-Oreganol-P73-Super-Strength-60\

-Softgels/7712?at=0

Everything else looks really good. When you take a B vitamin like B12, you must

also take a B-complex vitamin along with it everyday. If you are not getting all

your B vitamins in one of your supplements here, you must buy a complex. Here in

the States, we really like this particular B complex. It gives great energy and

really helped when I had adrenal fatigue. They can't keep it on the shelf at my

local vitamin shop...people buy it up immediately. You may want to give it a

try. (but it does not have the meythl B12)

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Fatigue-to-Fantastic-Daily-Energy-B-Compl\

ex-120-Ultracaps/7120?at=0

When you look at ingredients you should try to avoid soy or soy lecithin...this

isn't any good for you but it's in a lot of stuff these days.....

Cheers,

JOT

> My choice is limited as I need veggie, gluten free & dairy free products.

>

> Thanks again for your help & sorry to hijack your thread!

> x

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