Thinking of becoming an endo

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Hi, just thought i would throw this out there to maybe get a bit of a discussion

going before the june conference.

To become an endo it would require me to re-sit gcse science (need atleast a B

grade and i got C) then 1 Year access course at college, 5 years at med school

and 2 years specialist training. In total about 9 years, im now 24 so i would be

fully qualified at 33. Daunting but at the same time the thought of all the

people that could be helped along with the good wages and the experience of

having thyroid problems myself it is something i am definately thinking about

doing.

I did mention this to Dr P at one of my appointments and he said he will need

someone to pass down his information and carry on, he also mentioned another

route which is to study Nutritional/Natural Medicine which is 3 years at Uni and

then to open your own clinic. Alot less studying and u wont be part of GMC so

can practice how you want, just there is no guarntee of a job or patients as

soon as you leave uni or even were do you get the money for a

clinic/advertising.

Just wondering can Endo's prescribe HC from saliva test or only sync test, and

are they " allowed " to prescribe T3 or florinef ?

Recently i saw a doctor from the " good doctor " list an endo on the NHS as well

as private, and while they did not prescribe me anything as i was already on HC

T3 and Florinef, they did not go crazy and object to the treatment i was on (a

NHS endo in the past did) they actually listened to me and did quite alot of

bloodwork to see were things were at.

Anywayz if anyone has some spare time would just like your thoughts

Thanks

Steve

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Hi Steve

i thought about this too, once, but i'm 8 yrs older than you. that'd make me

40something, and not sure really my health coud cope with it, in fact i know it

couldn't. plus then i'm thinking that if you practice slightly outside the box,

you'd be a target for all the people who've targeted other doctors. I don't

just mean the regulatory boards, but all the other people like quackwatch and

journalists etc etc. i for one don't think i could cope with it. seems to be

too much emphasis on evidence based medicine - not many drs check for signs and

symptoms nowadays do they.

have you checked whether any med schools would take you with an access course?

i imagine they accept the qualification, i just thought the competition would be

pretty intense. (As an aside, I did computing degree with an access

qualification)

> I did mention this to Dr P at one of my appointments and he said he will need

someone to pass down his information and carry on

perhaps that is worth pursuing? could you do a diploma of institute of

nutrition etc alongside ?

> Just wondering can Endo's prescribe HC from saliva test or only sync test,

i don't know but suspect not - none of the endos i've seen have even looked at

the adrenal saliva tests i've had done. they only care about 'normal'. One

endo was concerned about 'optimal' but he was the exception, i think. i don't

think many of them care at all.

> Anywayz if anyone has some spare time would just like your thoughts

if you think you could cope with it then it sounds worth pursuing. but so too

do the other options you mention. also do you have to be an endo, could you

not be a private gp. also, and you may not like this, but if you did many

years study you may learn stuff that 'we' on this forum don't know about, and

this may change your opinion on things and you may become more conservative and

decide against saliva tests etc.

chris

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Thanks for your points chris, just what i was after somebody looking at it from

slightly different angle to myself.

I dont get stressed very easily so i think i could cope with the pressure, but

the thought of loosing my lisence after 9 years of studying because i went

slightly outside the box definately does put me off.

The access course is guarnteed entry to liverpool med school so long as you

pass, but the access course only has 10 places and i think not short of a 100

apply each year so yeh wont be easy to get accepted.

But was thinking if i did evening college 1 day a week for a year to get my GCSE

science and did some volunteer work (possibly with Dr P or just in a general

hospital ect) then i will know were my health stands regarding applying to the

access course in a years time.

Regarding the other course this is something i am going to look into and i would

like to speak with Dr P and Dr S at the conference to see what they reccommend.

There isnt a local uni which offers these courses tho.

If i did become an endo i would most definately care as i would of been through

this hell hole myself so could relate to the patients.

" also, and you may not like this, but if you did many years study you may learn

stuff that 'we' on this forum don't know about, and this may change your opinion

on things and you may become more conservative and decide against saliva tests

etc. "

While that is a very good point, im just not one of them type of people im VERY

open minded.

One last thing you may be 8 years older but you are definately not TOO old

to help others whether you went to med school or did a short uni course, maybe

if your health improves enough you could look into it more yourself

Steve

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well i for one would welcome even seeing someone training and that would help

their studies, so if you go for it give me a shuout, diane

>

> Hi, just thought i would throw this out there to maybe get a bit of a

discussion going before the june conference.

>

> To become an endo it would require me to re-sit gcse science (need atleast a B

grade and i got C) then 1 Year access course at college, 5 years at med school

and 2 years specialist training. In total about 9 years, im now 24 so i would be

fully qualified at 33. Daunting but at the same time the thought of all the

people that could be helped along with the good wages and the experience of

having thyroid problems myself it is something i am definately thinking about

doing.

>

> I did mention this to Dr P at one of my appointments and he said he will need

someone to pass down his information and carry on, he also mentioned another

route which is to study Nutritional/Natural Medicine which is 3 years at Uni and

then to open your own clinic. Alot less studying and u wont be part of GMC so

can practice how you want, just there is no guarntee of a job or patients as

soon as you leave uni or even were do you get the money for a

clinic/advertising.

>

> Just wondering can Endo's prescribe HC from saliva test or only sync test, and

are they " allowed " to prescribe T3 or florinef ?

>

> Recently i saw a doctor from the " good doctor " list an endo on the NHS as well

as private, and while they did not prescribe me anything as i was already on HC

T3 and Florinef, they did not go crazy and object to the treatment i was on (a

NHS endo in the past did) they actually listened to me and did quite alot of

bloodwork to see were things were at.

>

> Anywayz if anyone has some spare time would just like your thoughts

>

> Thanks

> Steve

>