Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 > I was always afraid to admit that I didn't check temps of oils and lye either, just made sure both were about the same temp when I started. I have to say this has always been such a scary thing for me, So much so that this is the part I really dislike about soap making. I make myself crazy trying to get it at a certain temp. I really appreciate you giving your opinion! Ozark Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 I've recently discovered that when I get up in the AM and I have to go out to feed the animals right away (we have horses and some chickens and 2 bunnies), I'm always exhausted, thats a given since 28yrs of cfs. But I just recently started taking my temp right after I get int he house and set down at the puter to check mail/rest and its coming up at 93 degs, today was 92.8. After setting and resting for about 20 minutes to a half hour it will go back to the 97's or 98's whatever is normal for that day (quite a fluctuation). I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed a huge temp drop when they are 'active'? I dont' know if its because its first thing in the morning, or because I am out moving around....... Just for the record I've been on thyroid med almost 20 yrs, tried Armour and went downhill quitting the L-thyroxin years ago so have stuck with the L-thyroxin. Higher doses of thyroid will give me symptoms of too much so I dont' really think this is thyroid related. I was SHOCKED the first time I caught my temp that low, but since have taken it maybe 4 or 5 other times in the morning after coming in from feeding and found it that low every time. I have no idea how long this has been going on. Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 At 06:40 AM 10/16/2006, you wrote: >There is a company in Yorkshire using a new family of benign CFC >solvents for plant material. The solvent was taken up to Brussels >and the European Commission ( 'tetrafluorathane' ) /Phytosol A this >was some years ago. > > " The Committee adopted an opinion (Annex 111) which concludes, > that, taking account of the very low levels of solvent residues in > essential oils (<0.02 mg/1) which are themselves added to foods at > low levels, the use of 1.1.1.2-tetrafluorethane as a solvent for > flavour extraction was acceptable " > > Brussels > 111/E/1/50/20/05/PW/IJ/svi > European Commission > > The company say they employ new hydrofluorocarbons with boiling > points of minus 26 degrees celsius unlike other processes which > employ high temperatures. Their process is a cool gentle proces and > its products are never damaged by exposure to temperature in excess > of ambient. No vacuum stripping is needed which apparently leads > to the loss of precious 'volatiles'. Their process is carried out > at neutral pH and in the absence of oxygen so does not suffer from > acid hydrolysis damage or oxidation. > They say the process generates little threat to the environment, > requires a minimum amount of electrical energy, releases no harmful > emissions into the atmosphere and waste product is innocuous and > pose no effluent disposal problems and can be returned to the soil as mulch. > > interesting > This all sounds great,if true, Janita. Anya McCoy Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org Natural Perfumers Chat Group / ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . Their process is carried out > at neutral pH and in the absence of oxygen so does not suffer from > acid hydrolysis damage or oxidation. > They say the process generates little threat to the environment, > requires a minimum amount of electrical energy, releases no harmful > emissions into the atmosphere and waste product is innocuous and > pose no effluent disposal problems and can be returned to the soil as mulch. > > interesting > This all sounds great,if true, Janita. will just check out as it has been a while............and will post details for interested parties. Janita ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 > >There is a company in Yorkshire using a new family of benign CFC > >solvents for plant material. The solvent was taken up to Brussels > >and the European Commission ( 'tetrafluorathane' ) /Phytosol A this > >was some years ago. > > > > " The Committee adopted an opinion (Annex 111) which concludes, > > that, taking account of the very low levels of solvent residues in > > essential oils (<0.02 mg/1) which are themselves added to foods at > > low levels, the use of 1.1.1.2-tetrafluorethane as a solvent for > > flavour extraction was acceptable " > > > > Brussels > > 111/E/1/50/20/05/PW/IJ/svi > > European Commission > > > > The company say they employ new hydrofluorocarbons with boiling > > points of minus 26 degrees celsius unlike other processes which > > employ high temperatures. Their process is a cool gentle proces and > > its products are never damaged by exposure to temperature in excess > > of ambient. No vacuum stripping is needed which apparently leads > > to the loss of precious 'volatiles'. Their process is carried out > > at neutral pH and in the absence of oxygen so does not suffer from > > acid hydrolysis damage or oxidation. > > They say the process generates little threat to the environment, > > requires a minimum amount of electrical energy, releases no harmful > > emissions into the atmosphere and waste product is innocuous and > > pose no effluent disposal problems and can be returned to the soil as mulch. > > > > interesting > > > > This all sounds great,if true, Janita. > > > Anya McCoy > Phytosols (originally called phytols) are produced as described by Janita, with a high percentage of the solvent being re-used again and again for the same process. The result is similar to a select CO2, but smells, in my opinion, more true-to-nature. The real beauty of the system is that it works on any scale, and is easily transportable, requiring minimal electrical input and no elevation of temperature. No-one seems to be currently offering phytosols on the general market, but when they were available, their high quality was reflected in high pricing. I believe the process is used in several countries by flavor, fragrance and pharmaceutical businesses. Phytosols were first developed in the UK by Wilde in about 1990. Tisserand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi Darlin thanks Its lovely to be back! Poor old bean sounds like he is ahving a tough time, do you reckon its a fluey type thing? And who told you NOT to use neurofen, I would use that over paracetamol any day, remember its always a juggle and to have a dangerously high temp is not good, better to have a bit of calpol than a febrile convulsion IMHO!! OK so wet socks no good, tepid baths, tried that? Not cold, just coolish, strip him down and dab him down with cool cloths too lovely, if he has a tummy bug and is vomitting then little teaspoons of fluid frequently will not distend his tummy too much. If a fluey thing then try to keep temp down, remember most things are self lim iting and will burn themselves out in a few days 5 at most any longer perhaps bacterial and go see the GP.... We can get them back after a bit of neurofen but bit harder when they get really poorly with pneumonia or something. Hope it works out OK honey, thinkin of ya. Looking forward to seeing you agian at the Conference L:otsa luv n hugs Caroline xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi Natasa Exactly many kids do great on Ibuprofen, it is indeeed anti inflammatory and thats why I wondered where Helen had heard not to use it... I personally dont use Calpol but always have a bottle of Ibuprofen handy for emergencies. Lotsa Luv caroline xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi Helen, there was some discussion on neurofen/ibuprofen recently, according to drJM it is ok to give, and actually might be beneficial for some kids as it is antiinflammatory. few people report that kids do better after taking it, are calmer etc. good luck in bringing it down! Natasa > > Hi all > has had temp for 2 days now. Fluctuates between 101 and 103. > Its 103 at the moment. Trying to bring it down without nurofen etc > and know that it is 'good' for the body to fight temperature but how > long do we go on like this for. Does anyone know please? > > Am itching to give the nurofen. Hate to see anyone like this. Have > tried the wet socks (think that was one of mandi's ideas?) but takes > them off. > > Thanks to anyone who can help. > > Helen x > P.S.Welcome back caroline. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Thanks Natasa and Caroline Have given some nurofen. I haven't been told not to use nurofen by anyone. I'd just heard that its good for the body to fight a fever sometimes. has viral issues like a lot of kids and its tricky to weigh up the best course of treatment like nurofen or fight it out?!! Thats why this site is so utterly fantastic cos you get so much help and support from such a good bunch of people..... Looking forward to seeeing you again Caroline. Thanks again Helen x thats why I wondered where Helen had heard not to use it... I personally > dont use Calpol but always have a bottle of Ibuprofen handy for emergencies. > > Lotsa Luv caroline > > xx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Also turn off the radiator in that room and have a fan running (not directly over his body, but nearby). Margaret > > Hi Darlin thanks > > Its lovely to be back! Poor old bean sounds like he is ahving a tough time, > do you reckon its a fluey type thing? And who told you NOT to use neurofen, I > would use that over paracetamol any day, remember its always a juggle and to > have a dangerously high temp is not good, better to have a bit of calpol than > a febrile convulsion IMHO!! > > OK so wet socks no good, tepid baths, tried that? Not cold, just coolish, > strip him down and dab him down with cool cloths too lovely, if he has a tummy > bug and is vomitting then little teaspoons of fluid frequently will not > distend his tummy too much. If a fluey thing then try to keep temp down, remember > most things are self lim iting and will burn themselves out in a few days 5 at > most any longer perhaps bacterial and go see the GP.... We can get them back > after a bit of neurofen but bit harder when they get really poorly with > pneumonia or something. > > Hope it works out OK honey, thinkin of ya. > Looking forward to seeing you agian at the Conference > L:otsa luv n hugs Caroline > xxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 > > Also turn off the radiator in that room and have a fan running (not > directly over his body, but nearby). > Margaret > Thanks Margaret. Will do. Helen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 -Belladona,Aconite and Arsenicun homeopathic remedies in a bottle of water sipped throughout the night was very effective at bringing a high temperature down in my daughter.We had just started working with homeopaths and they recommended this.The effect was quite dramatic ,overnight her temp of 43.c she had had on and off for 5 days normalised. Hope he's better soon. Sharon. -- In Autism Treatment , " tikka330726 " wrote: > > > > > > Also turn off the radiator in that room and have a fan running (not > > directly over his body, but nearby). > > Margaret > > > > Thanks Margaret. Will do. > > Helen x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hello Helen How is today, hopefully better... These things do tend to be self-limiting, if going on then see doctor, they are useful in certain situations... In my humble. Email me if you fancy a gab. Luv caroline xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Thanks Sharon I've got the helios kit so will try this. Have used belladonna in the past but not combination of all 3. Helen x Belladona,Aconite and Arsenicun homeopathic remedies in a bottle of > water sipped throughout the night was very effective at bringing a > high temperature down in my daughter.We had just started working > with homeopaths and they recommended this.The effect was quite > dramatic ,overnight her temp of 43.c she had had on and off for 5 > days normalised. > > Hope he's better soon. > Sharon. > > > > > > -- In Autism Treatment , " tikka330726 " > <olivers4@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Also turn off the radiator in that room and have a fan running > (not > > > directly over his body, but nearby). > > > Margaret > > > > > > > Thanks Margaret. Will do. > > > > Helen x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hi Caroline Thanks for the thought. He was merry and bright this am and temp was down but raised still. However its shot up again this afternoon. Feel a trip to Dr may be coming on.... Helen x > Hello Helen > > How is today, hopefully better... These things do tend to be > self-limiting, if going on then see doctor, they are useful in certain situations... > In my humble. > > Email me if you fancy a gab. > > Luv caroline > xxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 -We were also told by the homeopath ,that once you have made up the water it is important to hit the bottle against you hand 10-15 times.I think this is to get it to work, Glad he is a little better. love Sharon. -- In Autism Treatment , " tikka330726 " wrote: > > Thanks Sharon > > I've got the helios kit so will try this. Have used belladonna in > the past but not combination of all 3. > > Helen x > > > > Belladona,Aconite and Arsenicun homeopathic remedies in a bottle > of > > water sipped throughout the night was very effective at bringing a > > high temperature down in my daughter.We had just started working > > with homeopaths and they recommended this.The effect was quite > > dramatic ,overnight her temp of 43.c she had had on and off for 5 > > days normalised. > > > > Hope he's better soon. > > Sharon. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Autism Treatment , " tikka330726 " > > <olivers4@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also turn off the radiator in that room and have a fan running > > (not > > > > directly over his body, but nearby). > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Margaret. Will do. > > > > > > Helen x > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Also is the reason people do not like paracetamol because of all the sugar and colours or is there something wrong with paracetamol itself? Only I use a sugar additives and colour free one called medinol, should I use something else instead of this? >Paracetamol is usually bad news for our kids - uses up precious Glutathione to detox it. Connected with PST issues. I tend to let temperatures run, they are there for a reason. If I do need something I use Ibuprofen. Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hi Can somebody put me straight on this issue please? Is it the temperature that kills the virus or is it the body fighting the virus that makes it have a temperature? I always thought it was the latter and that by giving medicine to bring the temperature down would not stop the body from fighting the virus? Is this correct? Also is the reason people do not like paracetamol because of all the sugar and colours or is there something wrong with paracetamol itself? Only I use a sugar additives and colour free one called medinol, should I use something else instead of this? Thanks for any advice Jane > > Thanks Natasa and Caroline > > Have given some nurofen. I haven't been told not to use > nurofen by anyone. I'd just heard that its good for the body to fight > a fever sometimes. has viral issues like a lot of kids and its > tricky to weigh up the best course of treatment like nurofen or fight > it out?!! Thats why this site is so utterly fantastic cos you get so > much help and support from such a good bunch of people..... > > Looking forward to seeeing you again Caroline. Thanks again > > Helen x > > > thats why I wondered where Helen had heard not to use it... I > personally > > dont use Calpol but always have a bottle of Ibuprofen handy for > emergencies. > > > > Lotsa Luv caroline > > > > xx > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 2007/1/22, jane300769 : > > Is it the > temperature that kills the virus or is it the body fighting the virus > that makes it have a temperature? Might be both, Some viruses (and other bugs) cannot stand high temeratures, so a sauna is indeed a good virus fighter. Esp Adenoviruses cannot stand heat, that`s one reason why they always attack during winter time, and you fight them inefficiently because of lack of fever. Also body itself do more efficient infection fighting with a high temperature. >I always thought it was the latter > and that by giving medicine to bring the temperature down would not > stop the body from fighting the virus? Is this correct? Not stop, but less efficient.. > > Also is the reason people do not like paracetamol because of all the > sugar and colours or is there something wrong with paracetamol > itself? > Thanks for any advice> Jane Paracetamol depletes body of sulfur in detoxification. - That is the toxic side of Paracetamol, ASD children might have impaired detoxofication.. So rather instead of fighting temperature, try more often to increase temperature... Geir Flatabø > > > > Thanks Natasa and Caroline > > > > Have given some nurofen. I haven't been told not to use > > nurofen by anyone. I'd just heard that its good for the body to > fight > > a fever sometimes. has viral issues like a lot of kids and > its > > tricky to weigh up the best course of treatment like nurofen or > fight > > it out?!! Thats why this site is so utterly fantastic cos you get > so > > much help and support from such a good bunch of people..... > > > > Looking forward to seeeing you again Caroline. Thanks again > > > > Helen x > > > > > > thats why I wondered where Helen had heard not to use it... I > > personally > > > dont use Calpol but always have a bottle of Ibuprofen handy for > > emergencies. > > > > > > Lotsa Luv caroline > > > > > > xx > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 jane, if you go to the files section of this list you will find a rather long aritcle on PST. About a third of the way down it talks about paracetamol and why it is not good for our kids, well worth reading (all of it!!!) Nikki > > > In a message dated 22/01/2007 09:08:44 GMT Standard Time, > jane@... writes: > > Also is the reason people do not like paracetamol because of all the > sugar and colours or is there something wrong with paracetamol > itself? Only I use a sugar additives and colour free one called > medinol, should I use something else instead of this? > > > > >Paracetamol is usually bad news for our kids - uses up precious Glutathione > to detox it. Connected with PST issues. > > I tend to let temperatures run, they are there for a reason. If I do need > something I use Ibuprofen. > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I have felt so ill lately that, as suggested, I have been taking my temperature. When I 'flake out' and feel freezing my lowest temp has been 33.4. In the middle of the night its around 36 and I am burning up and throwing off the covers. Does anyone know what this would indicate? I have been on thyroxine for 15 years to not much effect and cant wait for my appointment with Dr P! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Sounds as if you might have stopped converting the mainly inactive T4 into the active thyroid hormone T3, in which case, the free T4 is probably floating around in your blood with nowhere to go and the cells in your body and brain lacking the active T3, which it is probably screaming out for. This causes symptoms of toxicity. Check out the attached document and see the various associated conditions that stop thyroid hormone being properly utilised at the cellular level and address these one by one, to ensure you find the cause of this by a process of elimination. Are you taking 200mcgs Selenium daily with food and zinc, which both help with conversion? Also, are you taking vitamin C. Can you get the last thyroid function tests you had done and post the results here together with the reference range so we can help interpret them and find the cause of what might be going on. Is your GP open to treating patients who don't do well on levothyroxine with some form of T3, either in combination with T4 or T3 alone? Luv - Sheila I have felt so ill lately that, as suggested, I have been taking my temperature. When I 'flake out' and feel freezing my lowest temp has been 33.4. In the middle of the night its around 36 and I am burning up and throwing off the covers. Does anyone know what this would indicate? I have been on thyroxine for 15 years to not much effect and cant wait for my appointment with Dr P! 1 of 1 File(s) Why thyroid hormone stops working (2).doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 > > Sounds as if you might have stopped converting the mainly inactive T4 into > the active thyroid hormone T3, Thanks for that Sheila No I don't take any supplements at all. Have to take larger and larger amounts of valsartan (now 320mg) plus water pills, to control my BP. Could this be related to thyroid? I have asked on 3 occasions to include T3 test but Dr. just produces the usual. July 2009 Free T4 19.6 pmol/L (12 - 22) Free TSH .071 mu/L (0.3 - 4.2) Dec 2010 Free T4 19.0 " Free TSH 1.23 " Hope this gives some clue Luv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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