Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I started ThreeLac about a few weeks ago. It does sound very scammy, but some people on the Recup board had mentioned having success with it, so I figured it was worth a try to add to all my other yeast meds. I don't know whether it's going to make a big difference, but I have had some die-off from it, so I can tell it is actually doing something--which I found surprising. So we'll see! Trina Pietryka <pietryka@...> wrote: Hi to all, Just want to know if anyone has heard of or had experience with a product called Threelac. It is a probiotic specifically designed for the treatment of Candida. Supposedly it " feeds " on the yeast. The brief search that I have done on the product makes it sound like a miracle cure so I am a bit sceptical. Kind regards, PIETRYKA --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hi Trina, Here comes another one of my bargain-basement questions again...so please bear with me. How do you know you're having die-off from this product? Have you been tested since you started it? If you're taking other products as well, and if you have had this die-off, how do you know the die-off was from this stuff, as opposed to something else you're taking? I'm sorry. I don't mean to ask idiotic questions, but I just do not understand this at all. Thanks for your help. the one in Champaign IL > > I started ThreeLac about a few weeks ago. It does sound very scammy, but some people on the Recup board had mentioned having success with it, so I figured it was worth a try to add to all my other yeast meds. I don't know whether it's going to make a big difference, but I have had some die-off from it, so I can tell it is actually doing something- -which I found surprising. So we'll see! > > Trina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I have used threelac and think is is a wonderful product & really helped my cfs - but due to the cost I can't keep taking it . It was all positive for me when i used it. > > > > > > I started ThreeLac about a few weeks ago. It does sound very scammy, > but some people on the Recup board had mentioned having success with > it, so I figured it was worth a try to add to all my other yeast meds. > I don't know whether it's going to make a big difference, but I have > had some die-off from it, so I can tell it is actually doing something- > -which I found surprising. So we'll see! > > > > Trina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Its best to build glutathione levels up and then add something to kill of yeast problems. ie coconut oil. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi If you have got to stage where you have systemic candida - you most likely have other pathogens in your system ie parasites, bacteria and virus's. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi -- I've never been tested for candida as there don't seem to be any good tests for it. But I know if I stop taking Diflucan/Lamisil I crash horribly. And I can tell to some extent how my yeast is overall by how white my tongue is and how bad the rash on my hands is. It's very hard to know what things cause what reactions and whether those are really good reactions or bad reactions. When I started ThreeLac, it made me groggy the first day or two. I don't know if this is die-off or a bad reaction, but I was surprised it had any effect at all since I'm already on several prescription yeast meds. So that tells me it was doing something since I hadn't had that feeling and then when I took it I did. If it had stuck around, I would have probably decided it was a bad reaction and stopped taking it, but since it went away I assume it was some sort of adjustment symptom, possibly die-off. The only symptom I'm pretty sure is die-off is a kind of sleepy I get--I call it deep sleepy. It feels good and healing, not bad like when I get woozy or groggy, etc. I get it after lots of different things, including whey and several yeast things. Of course, it varies and I can't really ever tell about anything, but I always take that symptom as a positive sign, even when I can't tell what it's from. So basically, I don't know what is die-off, if anything, and like most people find it difficult to know whether things are positive or negative. But I can sometimes tell something is having an effect, even if I don't know whether it's a positive or negative one, when I get a symptom right after taking it. Trina netsukeme <kcapel@...> wrote: Hi Trina, Here comes another one of my bargain-basement questions again...so please bear with me. How do you know you're having die-off from this product? Have you been tested since you started it? If you're taking other products as well, and if you have had this die-off, how do you know the die-off was from this stuff, as opposed to something else you're taking? I'm sorry. I don't mean to ask idiotic questions, but I just do not understand this at all. Thanks for your help. the one in Champaign IL --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Trina, Thank you for the info-packed reply. I hope it's okay if I probe further? I'm trying to gear up my brain for when I see my doctor, hopefully in the next couple of months, and I'd like to have a semi- intelligent thing or two to say to him and also ask of him. I had a full-blown systemic fungal infection back in about 1990-91, when the doctor I was seeing then refused to send me to the lab for crashed thyroid. He let me get very ill for many months. I had that white tongue. Mine was almost " furry. " My throat was closed up and it was very difficult to swallow. I couldn't tell if it was the goiter that he said was growing in instead of out, or if it was the fungal stuff. He had me taking Nystatin, both liquid and lozenges, if I remember correctly. I'm sure that I still have a fungal infection, although I haven't had that white tongue since then. I have a couple of fungal toenails, also thumbnails, and also itchy and sore scalp. Also flaking inside the ear canals. What would you recommend I ask this new doctor for? Diflucan or Lamisil? Is there anything else out now? How are they on your liver? Can you describe the rash you said you have on your hands? Where, and is it red and spotted or blotchy or what? I read your description of your " sleepy " when you think you have die- off -- the more pleasant sleepy feeling than just " groggy " and it rang a bell with me. I get an uncontrollable warm " fuzzy " and sleepy feeling after I start taking an antibiotic. It lasts for the first couple of days. Nothing can wake me up or keep me awake when I'm like that. It's sort of a feeling like I'd like to crawl into a cave and hibernate like a bear. What I don't understand is how I can have this pleasant sleepy feeling after starting antibiotic. That makes no sense to me. Antibiotic is for bacteria, not fungus and yeasts. I don't know what's going on with me. If I have systemic fungal infection, would antibiotic work in some way too and thereby generate that sleepy feeling? If I take antibiotic for a dental infection, and then I get the sleepies like that, does that mean that bacterial infection from one tooth is throughout my whole system? Well, you can see how muddled I am about all this. I appreciate the helpful insight, Trina. Thanks... > > Hi -- > > I've never been tested for candida as there don't seem to be any good tests for it. But I know if I stop taking Diflucan/Lamisil I crash horribly. And I can tell to some extent how my yeast is overall by how white my tongue is and how bad the rash on my hands is. > > It's very hard to know what things cause what reactions and whether those are really good reactions or bad reactions. When I started ThreeLac, it made me groggy the first day or two. I don't know if this is die-off or a bad reaction, but I was surprised it had any effect at all since I'm already on several prescription yeast meds. So that tells me it was doing something since I hadn't had that feeling and then when I took it I did. If it had stuck around, I would have probably decided it was a bad reaction and stopped taking it, but since it went away I assume it was some sort of adjustment symptom, possibly die-off. > > The only symptom I'm pretty sure is die-off is a kind of sleepy I get--I call it deep sleepy. It feels good and healing, not bad like when I get woozy or groggy, etc. I get it after lots of different things, including whey and several yeast things. Of course, it varies and I can't really ever tell about anything, but I always take that symptom as a positive sign, even when I can't tell what it's from. > > So basically, I don't know what is die-off, if anything, and like most people find it difficult to know whether things are positive or negative. But I can sometimes tell something is having an effect, even if I don't know whether it's a positive or negative one, when I get a symptom right after taking it. > > Trina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 CS what is the evidence of this ? kath .c. > > > Hi > > If you have got to stage where you have systemic candida - you most likely > have other pathogens in your system ie parasites, bacteria and virus's. > > > Regards > CS > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Boosting Glutathione via Whey Protein and Coconut oil should wipe it our completely. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 For me I was the evidence. It doesnt matter how you many things you add to knock out candida - it wont go until you help your body boost Glutathione levels first. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Any and all oregano will help with fungal issues, it does not have to be a particular brand. Other non drug anti fungals/yeasts include: aloe vera juice ($5.00/gallon), Tea Tree Oil, virgin coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract and yoghurt and/or kefir. There are others, but this is a starting point for you. It is critically important to remove carbohydrates and other fermented foods from the diet. mjh > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:55:49 -0000 > From: " netsukeme " <kcapel@...> > Subject: Re: Threelac > > This company, Mel? > > http://www.internatural-alternative- > health.com/VENDORS/NORTHAMERICAN_11272.cfm > > And the stuff you used was two types of the capsules listed? Mel, can > I ask what antifungal agents you tried and then gave up on, before you > tried these things? > > Thanks for your help, Mel. Im still grappling in the dark here. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 This company, Mel? http://www.internatural-alternative- health.com/VENDORS/NORTHAMERICAN_11272.cfm And the stuff you used was two types of the capsules listed? Mel, can I ask what antifungal agents you tried and then gave up on, before you tried these things? Thanks for your help, Mel. Im still grappling in the dark here. > > , In my experience, after trying several antifungal agents, the most effective treatment is a combiination of oreganol and oregomax, two oregano products produced by American Herb and Spice. Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 What has helped me is homemade kefir and kombucha tea. Keeps it under control. Pat Re: Threelac > > This company, Mel? > > http://www.internatural-alternative- > health.com/VENDORS/NORTHAMERICAN_11272.cfm > > And the stuff you used was two types of the capsules listed? Mel, can > I ask what antifungal agents you tried and then gave up on, before you > tried these things? > > Thanks for your help, Mel. Im still grappling in the dark here. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 When you start boosting glutathione you may find your pathogens start to flare up slightly as the heavy metals which blunt your immune system are also keeping your pathogens in check. Regards CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Grapefruit seed extract, mjh, or grapeseed extract? I used to take grapeseed extract and I'm wondering if you mean the same thing. sort of wilting in Champaign IL > > > > Any and all oregano will help with fungal issues, it does not have to be a > particular brand. > Other non drug anti fungals/yeasts include: aloe vera juice ($5.00/gallon), > Tea Tree Oil, virgin coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract and yoghurt and/or > kefir. There are others, but this is a starting point for you. > > It is critically important to remove carbohydrates and other fermented foods > from the diet. > > mjh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Thanks, Trina. I'll pore over this more when I feel a tad better. Having a rocky day...migraine and general yeccch. > > Hi -- > > What I've been trying is " triple therapy " : > http://www.drcranton.com/CFIDS.htm > So I'm taking nystatin powder, amphotericin-B powder, and Lamisil pills. And the " cave man " diet. It has helped some, although it hasn't gotten rid of the problem. I hadn't thought it was working much at all, but when I had to stop the Diflucan (which I was on first instead of the Lamisil), I crashed. Even every other day I couldn't handle--was much better on the days I was taking it and bad again on the days I wasn't. The Diflucan worked better than the Lamisil has been, but it made the klonopin build up. So as long as you aren't on klonopin, I would recommend Diflucan if you are going to do one. > > I haven't had my liver checked yet--will be in the next couple weeks, so we'll see what it's doing to that! I'm taking milk thistle, so hopefully that is helping protect the liver. > > I added ThreeLac and now am going to add the bifidus powder Dawn recommended and am hoping the whey will kick in and raise my glutathione levels and take care of it so I can get off the prescription stuff. If it doesn't, I think my next step will be looking into immune modulation things. I think the problem with treating the candida is that it assumes the immune system is going to jump back on board when some of the stress is taken off of it by killing the candida, but I'm doubtful that my immune system is going to do that. So we'll see! > > Oh yeah, my rash. Well, I get it on the back of my hands and on the inside of my wrists (sometimes both at once, sometimes just one). It's usually worse on the right hand. Sometimes it's really bad, today it's not there at all, usually it's in-between. It's red and in patches--or little dots that spread into patches. It's kind of scaly and a bit itchy. The Lamisil does seem to work a bit better on it than the Diflucan, which makes sense since it's concentrated more in the skin whereas the Diflucan concentrates more in the spinal fluids and stuff so it's better at the overall effect. I used to get a lot of infected toenails too (a few years before I got the rash). So maybe you would want to try Lamisil since that's designed for toenail stuff. > > There are tons of different approaches to take with Candida (including all the ones other people have mentioned). I think it's all very confusing! > > With the antibiotics, maybe you get sleepy from a die-off of bacteria. Some people think CFIDS is caused by an infection (or aggravate it) and use antibiotics to treat it. > > Trina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 GrapeFRUIT seed extract is antimicrobial Grapeseed extract is an antioxidant. They are two different things and not interchangeable. mjh > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:14:40 -0000 > From: " netsukeme " <kcapel@...> > Subject: Re: Threelac > > Grapefruit seed extract, mjh, or grapeseed extract? I used to take > grapeseed extract and I'm wondering if you mean the same thing. > > > sort of wilting in Champaign IL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Thank you, mjh. I knew you'd know what was what with this! As soon as I'm alive, I will hithee to the health food store for my grapeFRUIT seed extract. <big grin> sorta alive in Champaign IL > > > > GrapeFRUIT seed extract is antimicrobial > > Grapeseed extract is an antioxidant. > > They are two different things and not interchangeable. > > mjh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 In a message dated 21/06/2006 21:46:47 GMT Daylight Time, loraine.higgins@... writes: Does anyone know the best (cheapest) place to purchase Threelac. Lorene has recommended it as an alternative to our current probiotic, anyone any experience with it. >>>>Never tried it because very happy with what we use. I met these peeps at a conference somewhere, maybe in Scotland they seemed like nice people http://www.candidafree.co.uk/ HTH Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 In a message dated 23/06/2006 09:12:36 GMT Daylight Time, loraine.higgins@... writes: >Never tried it because very happy with what we use. I met these peeps at a conference somewhere, maybe in Scotland they seemed like nice people_http://www.candidafree.co.uk/_ (http://www.candidafree.co.uk/) HTHMandi xThanks MandyCan you tell me what you use, we use pro-bio gold and Klaire labs detox support - Lorene felt this one was possibly too much for Annie. >>>>We use Custom Probiotics CP1 and Kirkman Sacc Boulardii. CP1 is 25 billion CPU's +++ per cap so its a strong one - broad spectrum, some only use part fo a cap and put it back toegther to start wth. I have a copy of the latest lab analysis for CP1 showing they average 48 billion CFU's per cap - its deisgned to have AT LEAST 25 Billion after being at room temp for 3 weeks. Its my favourite Sacc Boulardii is a yeast that eats bad yeast, I think Kirkman is 3 billion per cap. I am about to revisit Primal Defense, in low doses to add to my mix and hopefully will eb able to reduce Sacc B with that, will let you know hoe we go, plan to start that tonight. HTH Mandi x PS Order shipped out today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 >Never tried it because very happy with what we use. I met these peeps at a conference somewhere, maybe in Scotland they seemed like nice people _http://www.candidafree.co.uk/_ (http://www.candidafree.co.uk/) HTH Mandi x Thanks Mandy Can you tell me what you use, we use pro-bio gold and Klaire labs detox support - Lorene felt this one was possibly too much for Annie. Loraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 This is what is going on with Threelac > It should be banned here as well. Spore forming bacteria, bacillus > bacteria, (not to be confused with lactobacillus bacteria) are very bad for you and > do not naturally occur in the human colon. They are found in soil which is > where they belong > ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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