Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 if the baby is nursing, aren't they immune longer? especially if exclusively nursing? Kathy On,Can > My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities > until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby does > not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid > reason to wait with that vaccination! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 In a message dated 2/5/01 11:22:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, bettinam@... writes: My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby does not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid reason to wait with that vaccination! I thought it was 6 months and then only if you are breastfeeding....... Chelly Chelly San Diego, CA Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots! "Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 apparently not - I did ask that question. Re: A Mother's immunity if the baby is nursing, aren't they immune longer? especially if exclusively nursing? Kathy On,Can > My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities > until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby does > not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid > reason to wait with that vaccination! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Are you joking? Would you like some information on the specific dangers of the polio vaccine/ alternative causes of the disease??? On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:30:30 -0200 " Bettina ez " <bettinam@...> writes: > Well then it would be foolish of me not to have my baby vaccinated > sooner - > right? > Namaste, Gretchen from Lexington, KY Mama to Maya (5), Rhythm Joy (2), and Isabel (3 mos) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Well then it would be foolish of me not to have my baby vaccinated sooner - right? Re: A Mother's immunity At 02:36 PM 02/04/2001 -0500, you wrote: >if the baby is nursing, aren't they immune longer? especially if >exclusively nursing? Kathy On,Can > >> My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities >> until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby >does >> not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid >> reason to wait with that vaccination! >> >> Well they think the polio vaccine gives you immunity to polio so therefore your baby is immune up to 8 months! NOT! Studies have shown in most cases the mom does not pass on immunity to diseases they have ONLY been vaccinated for. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 -- Polio is very nearly eradicated in the US. Just another reason to wait for that vaccine--imo, it's not needed anyway. On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:54:58 Bettina ez wrote: >My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities >until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby does >not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid >reason to wait with that vaccination! > > > > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 At 02:36 PM 02/04/2001 -0500, you wrote: >if the baby is nursing, aren't they immune longer? especially if >exclusively nursing? Kathy On,Can > >> My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities >> until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby >does >> not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid >> reason to wait with that vaccination! >> >> Well they think the polio vaccine gives you immunity to polio so therefore your baby is immune up to 8 months! NOT! Studies have shown in most cases the mom does not pass on immunity to diseases they have ONLY been vaccinated for. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Just a thought... I have no facts on this subject but I totally breast-fed and my daughter got Chicken Pox at 8 months. I don't want to scare anyone because I would NEVER vaccinate. Actually I was sort of glad to get them over with and her have the immunity. Margaret White Trentonsmom@a ol.com Vaccinations cc: 02/05/2001 Subject: Re: A Mother's immunity 03:07 PM Please respond to Vaccinations In a message dated 2/5/01 11:22:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, bettinam@... writes: My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities until around 8 months of age. Â Since I am immune to polio then my baby does not need the polio vaccine until that time. Â Great - now I have a valid reason to wait with that vaccination! I thought it was 6 months and then only if you are breastfeeding....... Chelly Chelly San Diego, CA Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots! " Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 It is my understanding that a nursing baby IS protected longer...maybe the doctor is not fully informed on breastfeeding to make that statement. You will get alot of conflicting information on breastfeeding and the protection it provides from practice to practice, and hospital to hospital. I would ask someone from LLL...I find them to be the most informed, as it is their specialty... Sharon, Quakertown PA Re: A Mother's immunity > > > if the baby is nursing, aren't they immune longer? especially if > exclusively nursing? Kathy On,Can > > > My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities > > until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby > does > > not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid > > reason to wait with that vaccination! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 i thought mother's pass on something through their breastmilk until they stop bfing.... ~~ jacqui monroe, ny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 At 03:26 PM 02/05/2001 -0500, you wrote: >It is my understanding that a nursing baby IS protected longer...maybe the >doctor is not fully informed on breastfeeding to make that statement. You >will get alot of conflicting information on breastfeeding and the protection >it provides from practice to practice, and hospital to hospital. I would ask >someone from LLL...I find them to be the most informed, as it is their >specialty... >Sharon, Quakertown PA The nursing baby is only protected against what the mother is immune too. If the mother isn't immune there is not immunity passed to the baby. Of course nursing is what helps develop the immune SYSTEM, but immunity to specific diseases depends on what the mother has immunity to - usually only the diseases she has actually had. Sheri > Re: A Mother's immunity >> >> >> if the baby is nursing, aren't they immune longer? especially if >> exclusively nursing? Kathy On,Can >> >> > My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's >immunities >> > until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby >> does >> > not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid >> > reason to wait with that vaccination! >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 This is correct...a nursing mother can only pass along what immunities she herself has... Sharon, Quakertown PA Re: A Mother's immunity > >> > >> > >> if the baby is nursing, aren't they immune longer? especially if > >> exclusively nursing? Kathy On,Can > >> > >> > My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's > >immunities > >> > until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby > >> does > >> > not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid > >> > reason to wait with that vaccination! > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK > 530-478-1242 Voicemail > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & > women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke > > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Yes please, would appreciate the info! Re: A Mother's immunity Are you joking? Would you like some information on the specific dangers of the polio vaccine/ alternative causes of the disease??? On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:30:30 -0200 " Bettina ez " <bettinam@...> writes: > Well then it would be foolish of me not to have my baby vaccinated > sooner - > right? > Namaste, Gretchen from Lexington, KY Mama to Maya (5), Rhythm Joy (2), and Isabel (3 mos) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 NOT a good idea! I have recently asked them about this. Guess what I got! A schedule of the " recommended vaccinations " ! They didn't have a clue. Lilian >It is my understanding that a nursing baby IS protected longer...maybe >the >doctor is not fully informed on breastfeeding to make that statement. >You >will get alot of conflicting information on breastfeeding and the > >protection it provides from practice to practice, and hospital to hospital. I would ask someone from LLL...I find them to be the most informed, as it is their specialty... Sharon, Quakertown PA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 No Way!...This was one of the reasons to breastfeed given to me by LLL...are you sure it just wasn't the individual with whom you had the conversation? Jeez, I am going to end up totally disenchanted with everyone... Sharon, Quakertown PA Re: A Mother's immunity > NOT a good idea! I have recently asked them about this. Guess what I got! A > schedule of the " recommended vaccinations " ! They didn't have a clue. > Lilian > > >It is my understanding that a nursing baby IS protected longer...maybe >the > >doctor is not fully informed on breastfeeding to make that statement. >You > >will get alot of conflicting information on breastfeeding and the > > >protection > it provides from practice to practice, and hospital to hospital. I would ask > someone from LLL...I find them to be the most informed, as it is their > specialty... > Sharon, Quakertown PA > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 At 10:11 PM 02/05/2001 -0200, you wrote: >Yes please, would appreciate the info! > Start with http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm Other info on other vaccines http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > Re: A Mother's immunity > > >Are you joking? Would you like some information on the specific dangers >of the polio vaccine/ alternative causes of the disease??? > >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:30:30 -0200 " Bettina ez " ><bettinam@...> writes: >> Well then it would be foolish of me not to have my baby vaccinated >> sooner - >> right? >> > >Namaste, Gretchen >from Lexington, KY >Mama to Maya (5), Rhythm Joy (2), and Isabel (3 mos) > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 I have been trying to find -for some time now- some data, possible studies etc., on the difference between the immunity against childhood diseases offered a baby when nursing an immunized mother vs a mother that has actually had said diseases. Was unable to find anything, although I knew I had read about it somewhere! I had actually, on another list,made the claim made the claim that a mother that had acquired natural immunity against disease offered far superior immunity vs a vaccinated mother- and then couldn't find my source to substanciate my claims :0 ! So, I thought LLL would certainly be the best way to find out, and I was in contact with a very friendly and helpful lady via e-mail. Unfortunately, all she had to offer was propaganda for vaccination, and ,as I mentioned, a copy of the schedule for the recommended vaccinations! Lilian From: " DeVan " <ietinc@...> No Way!...This was one of the reasons to breastfeed given to me by LLL...are you sure it just wasn't the individual with whom you had the conversation? Jeez, I am going to end up totally disenchanted with everyone... Sharon, Quakertown PA Re: A Mother's immunity >NOT a good idea! I have recently asked them about this. Guess what I got! A >schedule of the " recommended vaccinations " ! They didn't have a clue. >Lilian > > >It is my understanding that a nursing baby IS protected longer...maybe >the > >doctor is not fully informed on breastfeeding to make that statement. >You > >will get alot of conflicting information on breastfeeding and the > > >protection >it provides from practice to practice, and hospital to hospital. I would ask >someone from LLL...I find them to be the most informed, as it is their >specialty... >Sharon, Quakertown PA > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 In a message dated 2/6/01 4:38:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, snakken@... writes: Polio is very nearly eradicated in the US. >Just another reason to wait for that vaccine--imo, it's not needed anyway. it's been almost 20 years since a wild case of polio in the US--the last 17+ years, the only cases have been from the OPV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 At 01:30 PM 02/05/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >-- > > >Polio is very nearly eradicated in the US. >Just another reason to wait for that vaccine--imo, it's not needed anyway. Polio doesn't exist in the US except for people who got it from the oral vaccine. Polio already was on the decline BEFORE any vaccine came out. > >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:54:58 Bettina ez wrote: >>My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's immunities >>until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby does >>not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid >>reason to wait with that vaccination! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 I missed the original question but, Just for the record, this LLL would never send someone a vaccine schedule. She would say, I am not qualified to answer that specific question (will you pass on immunity to things that you have been vaccinated against or only things that you have had and conquered) but, nursing does pass on immunity to a lot of things ansuring better health over all for you baby which will provide for a stronger immune system able to fight off these diseases. Most of the people in our group are unvaccinated so we can talk pretty openly about it. LLL offically does not take a position on vaccinating for or against. It stands to reason that if we can't recommend that someone should not vaccinate that we also could not recommend that they do. If the question were to be posed to me, I would suggest that the mom do her homework and make a decision that both her and her babyb could live with and then recommend some good anti-vax books ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 I am sorry. I am sure you all already talked about this, but people still use oral polio? >From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...> >Reply-Vaccinations >Vaccinations >Subject: Re: A Mother's immunity >Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 21:25:49 +0000 > >At 01:30 PM 02/05/2001 -0600, you wrote: > > > >-- > > > > > >Polio is very nearly eradicated in the US. > >Just another reason to wait for that vaccine--imo, it's not needed >anyway. > >Polio doesn't exist in the US except for people who got it from the oral >vaccine. >Polio already was on the decline BEFORE any vaccine came out. > > > > > >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:54:58 Bettina ez wrote: > >>My doctor just told me that a baby is protected by its mother's >immunities > >>until around 8 months of age. Since I am immune to polio then my baby >does > >>not need the polio vaccine until that time. Great - now I have a valid > >>reason to wait with that vaccination! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail >account at http://www.eudoramail.com > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK >530-478-1242 Voicemail >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & >women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke > >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers >Education, Homeopathic Education >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 At 02:26 AM 02/08/2001 -0000, you wrote: > >I am sorry. I am sure you all already talked about this, but people still >use oral polio? Other countries do and it appears doctors in this country do too despite new recommendations from CDC as of Jan 1, 2000. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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