Re: Phyllis, Jan???? Weak teeth

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With my twins I had a couple of ultrasounds.

The first ultra sound was at 19 weeks and they discovered the twin

pregnancy. I had already thought about the possibility before because I just

felt like it was two instead of one.

Got it confirmed!

Then they had to do another more elaborate one.

After that we moved and they did two more ultra sounds. One was done by a

specialist for multi gestational pregnancies. He insisted on me having the

babies at 36 weeks. He was adamant about the fact that they wouldn't gain

anything after that!

I never believed him. Fought like hell with my husband to delay the

c-section date. They were both breech so my doctor refused to do a vaginal

delivery.

Thankfully I got sick, so the first date had to be postponed! My loving

husband told me just to hold my sneeze and get it done and over with!

Of course I didn't. The next date was fixed a week later but not in the

hospital of my choice. I wanted to hold them after the section, I didn't

want them to be rolled away while I was all alone by myself in recovery.

What for?

So I insisted on going to the hospital of my choice. I was full term now,

still no contractions. My doctor had stopped checking me for the last two

weeks. Never checked whether one of the babies had maybe turned. Never

checked the heartbeats...

I went to my hospital, where they didn't have the greatest ICU for newborns

in distress but I was just so sure that everything would be fine with them.

So I had my babies at 38 1/2 weeks, they were doing great, I got to hold

them right after they were out and suctioned, my four year old daughter was

present and able to greet them right there and then, it was the best I could

have under the circumstances, but it wouldn't have done the babies any harm

if we had waited a couple of days more.

a.

Re: Re: Phyllis, Jan???? Weak teeth

> > >

> > > Wow. I am just in amazement. My son is 10 mos old and from the time he

> > > was 5 mos old, he has had practically non-stop ear infections. Between

> > > the u/s and the vaxes, I don't know what the cause is! My brother had

> > > many infections as a child as well and now has hearing loss. I worry

> > > about that for Max. I worry alot for Max because he is predisposed to

> > > lots of things. My family isn't in the best health. I hope to change

> > > that with Max. We intend to treat homeopathically and do whatever else

> > > we can to kepe him as healthy as possible. Thanks for the insight on

> > > the ultrasounds and ear infections... I will forever wonder now, was

> > > that why he gets ear infections? Or was it the vaxes? I am so glad to

> > > have this email list. I have gotten ALOT of great info here.

> > >

> > > ~

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- cpeter8743@... wrote:

> > > > In a message dated 2/9/01 10:30:43 AM Central Standard Time,

> > > > carriebeary77@... writes:

> > > >

> > > > << I don't see any problems in Max from the u/s's. That's

> > > > amazing information. I really had no idea. >>

> > > >

> > > > Here is the trade-off. In our case, my fear of his ear-aches due to

> > > > the

> > > > ultra sound was not as great as my fear of not getting the midwife I

> > > > wanted

> > > > and a home birth, which both hinged on the due date. Had I known

> > > > that there

> > > > was more to the story of ultra sounds, and had I known the chances

> > > > of the

> > > > midwife actually delivering were remote, I would never have done it.

> > > >

> > > > However, at the time, these things were not available to me to help

> > > > me make a

> > > > decision, and one which I thought about for over a week. Doctors

who

> > > > have

> > > > delivered a lot of babies (ours at that point had over 1200) will

> > > > tell you to

> > > > the side that they absolutely see an increase in ear related

> > > > problems, and

> > > > speech problems, etc. in those babies exposed to ultrasound at the

> > > > " normal "

> > > > time which is about 18-21 weeks. However, the medical establishment

> > > > will not

> > > > put any serious thought into any of it, even though it comes up time

> > > > and

> > > > again in independent studies (think of the backlash). I believe,

> > > > it's

> > > > probably the same with vaccines. No noticeable side effects for a

> > > > lot of

> > > > people, ergo there must not be any side effects, and those that are

> > > > able to

> > > > correlate problems, are blown off as well, it MUST be something

else,

> > > >

> > > > everyone else hasn't had these problems. But, as we know, the

> > > > effects of

> > > > vaccines can be long term. In my case (I had the measles shot at 8,

> > > > and the

> > > > measles at 23), I am left with arthritis in some very strange

> > > > places... which

> > > > wasn't diagnosed until I was 29, many years past the point of

> > > > complaint,

> > > > because they just didn't want to interpret my medical data. So, I'm

> > > > happy

> > > > that you don't have any of the residuals, I believe that is

> > > > absolutely true.

> > > > And also, in your case, with problems you were looking at, what

other

> > > > choice

> > > > would you have made? You probably would have done what I did, and

> > > > went ahead

> > > > with the ultra-sound and prepared for the worse that you were aware

> > > > of (our

> > > > doctor had clued us into the ear problems with my first, so although

> > > > I was

> > > > carrying twins we absolutely refused the ultrasound).

> > > >

> > > > Remember - they used to think x-rays were harmless as well. Now

> > > > people who

> > > > had them in the 60s and 70s (for teeth, head injuries, etc) are

> > > > getting

> > > > cancer in their thyroids and lymph nodes. considering all the other

> > > > toxins

> > > > we heap on these organs (fluoride and mercury are known to have

> > > > adverse

> > > > effects, i.e. hypothyorid in women, etc.), it's a wonder there

aren't

> > > > more

> > > > cases. And I suspect there are, we just don't hear about it, or

it's

> > > >

> > > > misdiagnosed, as it was in my case. I'm slowly but surely becoming

> > > > my

> > > > mother. I don't like doctors, and I don't trust them. They are not

> > > > educated

> > > > enough to be making such important decisions for us, nor are they

> > > > educated

> > > > enough to understand the ramifications and how to fix them. They

> > > > don't even

> > > > know or trust the body to begin with, and that should tell us

> > > > something.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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In a message dated 2/9/2001 4:38:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, Sherri@... writes:

Having worked in high risk OB, I know a lot of women who have

u/s twice a week due to pregnancy problems.

I was one of those women. I was on insulin during my pregancy. I was told a side effect of insulin dependency during pregnancy was that the fetus' heart valves grow thick and then can't pass blood through and pump it through the body. This would have caused severe developmental anamolies. So I had an ultrasound every three to four weeks - long ones looking at his heart valves and meticulously measuring them. I then developed all kinds of other stuff and ended up in the hospital for the last three weeks of my pregnancy and induced 3 1/2 weeks early. My son's teeth are infected with mutans streptococcus, a bacteria that has caused terrible decay in a child that doesn't even know what sugar is. I have successfully used a lot of antibacterial herbal remedies to repeatedly "kill" the bacteria, but since they are always present in the body, and since his teeth are SO susceptible to the bacteria - it is an ongoing battle. I am just trying to keep them in his head for another three years. (He is three.) There is a great children's mouthwash out there, with lots of antibacterial herbs and even Q10 in it, by The Natural Dentist, that we use. We also use the antibacterial properties of tea tree oil toothpaste by Desert Essence. Also, a naturopath and dentist friend has recommended that I increase his Vit. D, which has been proven (in studies) to reduce and deter further cavity development. All this info is in my story on FNL's website at www.FamiliesforNaturalLiving.org under stories and "Early Childhood Caries and Breastfeeding".

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In a message dated 2/9/2001 5:39:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, cpeter8743@... writes:

<< Pregnancy problems such as gestational diabetes >>

How does US help in this case?

I was on insulin during my pregnancy and was told that a side effect of insulin is thickening of the fetus' heart valves. So I was given US every three to four weeks. My son's heart valves were detectably thicker than normal, but never progressed beyond that. If they had gotten thicker my son could have begun a cycle of developmental deformaties (due to lack of oxygen and proper blood circulation) that could have, supposedly, been prevented if they knew what was going on. This is what I was told. It could all be baloney, but back then I was too scared for my child not to do whatever they told me to do.

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In a message dated 2/9/2001 2:20:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, Sherri@... writes:

the baby having a condition

where the intestines are on the outside of the body

My friend was told that her baby was like this and they thought aborting but she had the baby anyway and the little guys was totally normal!!!

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what do the white oak bark and the black walnut do? I mean, is there a

reason we should brush with them?

Kathy OnCan

We use one capsule of white oak bark powder, opened, and

> mixed with one dropperful of black walnut tincture (glycerine-based ones

> taste better than alcohol-based.) This creates a paste that you can

> either brush with straight, or mix with toothpaste - for our girls, I mix

> it with their Weleda Kid's Gel and brush their teeth once a week (they

> brush daily with the Weleda gel alone, or just with water.)

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In a message dated 2/11/2001 10:24:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, brofu@... writes:

Hey , Do you know anything about the white oak/black walnut mixture

for teeth? Dh has terrible tooth decay and has really gotten amazing

results brushing with the stuff 2-3 times a week. I've got the recipe if

you're interested. ;-)

Namaste, Gretchen from Lexington, KY

I would be very grateful for this recipe! Thanks Gretchen!

burg, VA

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Hey , Do you know anything about the white oak/black walnut mixture

for teeth? Dh has terrible tooth decay and has really gotten amazing

results brushing with the stuff 2-3 times a week. I've got the recipe if

you're interested. ;-)

Namaste, Gretchen

from Lexington, KY

Mama to Maya Music (8/16/95)

Karuna-Rhythm Joy (5/2/98)

and Isabella Maitri-Song (10/25/00)

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I would love that recipe too.

a

from Lafayette, LA.

> Hey , Do you know anything about the white oak/black walnut mixture

> for teeth? Dh has terrible tooth decay and has really gotten amazing

> results brushing with the stuff 2-3 times a week. I've got the recipe if

> you're interested. ;-)

>

> Namaste, Gretchen

> from Lexington, KY

> Mama to Maya Music (8/16/95)

> Karuna-Rhythm Joy (5/2/98)

> and Isabella Maitri-Song (10/25/00)

>

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:32:59 -0600 " mianne " <mianne@...>

writes:

> I would love that recipe too.

> a

> from Lafayette, LA.

>

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Hi a! We use one capsule of white oak bark powder, opened, and

mixed with one dropperful of black walnut tincture (glycerine-based ones

taste better than alcohol-based.) This creates a paste that you can

either brush with straight, or mix with toothpaste - for our girls, I mix

it with their Weleda Kid's Gel and brush their teeth once a week (they

brush daily with the Weleda gel alone, or just with water.) We LOVE this

stuff - heard about it on this list back in August (I think) - it leaves

your teeth feeling SO CLEAN, even later in the day, after eating! Let me

know what you think of it (over on the momswithminds list if folks here

are fed up with OT posts! *grin*)

Namaste, Gretchen

from Lexington, KY

Mama to Maya Music (8/16/95)

Karuna-Rhythm Joy (5/2/98)

and Isabella Maitri-Song (10/25/00)

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