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Bonnie:

You have the KAK virus. I also had that one passed along to me--it's

rampant and sometimes not detected by virus scan. I don't know too

much about clearing it, but tell me what anti virus software you use

and maybe I can find out more. In the meantime, go to your email

program (I'm assuming you use Microsoft Outlook Express to manage

your email)

Go to " tools " then " options " Under Options, look at your " signature "

file. Most likely it shows your " signature " as being a program

C:/Windows/Programs/KAK or something like that. Make sure you delete

that from your signature file before you send any emails or you'll

pass it along. You will have to do this each time you boot up your

computer--or it reappears every time until the virus is cleaned out

of your computer. (If you have another email address--a web based one

it might be a good idea to use that until you get things cleaned up)

If only more people could find this list and the inspirational

people here...maybe we could rid the world of these plagues! This

virus originated in France--anyone up for translating? Moi? Non!

(that's the extent of my French except for useful phrases such

as " are you going to the beach?)

Good Luck,

Jo

P.S. ((((Hugs)))) to you and " virtual chicken soup " to your poor sick

computer!!

> Is anyone else getting an error message when they turn their

computer on? I keep getting a little box that says " Kagou-Anti-

Kro$oft says not today " If I click on the OK box my computer shuts

down!! I ran a virus check but it shows nothing. PLEASE help me if

you can. I don't know what to do.

> Thanks and God bless, Bonnie

> *******************************************

> With God, ALL things are possible

> *******************************************

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This is and OLD e-mail. I DO NOT have the virus. Thanks for answering, but this is an old, old message ;-) This must be what Rashelle saw and caused her to think I had the virus.

{{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie

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Re: Help please

Bonnie:You have the KAK virus. I also had that one passed along to me--it's rampant and sometimes not detected by virus scan. I don't know too much about clearing it, but tell me what anti virus software you use and maybe I can find out more. In the meantime, go to your email program (I'm assuming you use Microsoft Outlook Express to manage your email)Go to "tools" then "options" Under Options, look at your "signature" file. Most likely it shows your "signature" as being a program C:/Windows/Programs/KAK or something like that. Make sure you delete that from your signature file before you send any emails or you'll pass it along. You will have to do this each time you boot up your computer--or it reappears every time until the virus is cleaned out of your computer. (If you have another email address--a web based one it might be a good idea to use that until you get things cleaned up) If only more people could find this list and the inspirational people here...maybe we could rid the world of these plagues! This virus originated in France--anyone up for translating? Moi? Non! (that's the extent of my French except for useful phrases such as "are you going to the beach?)Good Luck,JoP.S. ((((Hugs)))) to you and "virtual chicken soup" to your poor sick computer!! > Is anyone else getting an error message when they turn their computer on? I keep getting a little box that says " Kagou-Anti-Kro$oft says not today" If I click on the OK box my computer shuts down!! I ran a virus check but it shows nothing. PLEASE help me if you can. I don't know what to do.> Thanks and God bless, Bonnie> *******************************************> With God, ALL things are possible> *******************************************------------------------------------------------------------------------Get paid for the stuff you know!Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site!1/2200/1/_/812636/_/955944703/------------------------------------------------------------------------

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In a message dated 11/21/02 2:19:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

>

I think that there is information on Shirley's Wellness Cafe.

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> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

>

I think that there is information on Shirley's Wellness Cafe.

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Hi Patti,

I will send on a little anedcotal evidence.

Cliff

This account of Pancreatic cancer was sent to me Friday Oct. 25 by Nan

Parsons.

Cliff

*********

Hello,

I thought I would add my story to the others you have collected.

My husband had pancreatic cancer in 1994 which was discovered during

surgery. It was larger than they had thought from looking at his first

C.A.T. Scan, and it had spread all around. Was grown around two of

the body's main blood carrying vessels and was almost over to the

iver. They removed nothing but took fine needle aspirations. The

lab report on it came back as being Adenoma Carcinoma. They gave him

possibly 3 months to live. When we got home, we treated him with

everything in the alternative field that we could hear or learn

about. One of these items was 1 Tablespoon low fat cottage cheese

mixed with 1 Tablespoon Flax Seed oil, 3 times a day. He gradually got

better, put back on 25 pounds and was feeling good, and so 5 months

after the surgery, I requested another C.A.T. Scan. It showed that

there was no cancer anywhere. The doctors were amazed and didn't knowwhat

to make of it.

Since we had used so many methods of Alternative, we didn't give the

Flax Seed Oil all of the credit - we didn't know what had brought about

the " all clear " . But after reading your testimonies on the Internet, I

have recently begun on it myself, having recently been diagnosed with

breast cancer. Now I am filled with hope.

Nan Parsons

**********

In answer to my request for permission to publish this letter Nan wrote

further as follows:

You are welcome to use this information any way you want. This story has

been published in a widely read newsletter put out by The Health Resource in

Conway, Arkansas.

It eventually reached the Cancer Control society in Los angeles and they

notified my husband and asked him to speak at their annual meeting. He

declined as he does not see himself as a public speaker.

We have copies of he letters from the surgeon [Dr. Postier] in

Oklahoma City [affiliated with Oklahoma University Medical Center] to our

local surgeon [Dr. Tim Gilbert] who referred us to Dr. Postier.

In his lab reports, Dr. Postier reported the type of cancer and gave his

prognosis for my husband.

In spite of these reports we know that Dr. Gilbert absolutely refused to

believe that my husband had ever had cancer when he was the one who had been

searching for the reasons he had been so ill for five months, had him in the

hodspital here in Ponca City, Oklahoma for a week running tests and then

finally sent us to Dr. Postier.

We do know that doctors do refuse to believe anything good can come out of

the Alternative field.

Since that report was published we have sent out hundreds of copies of it to

people all over the nation.

Sincerely

Nan Parson

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Patti,

I will send on a little anedcotal evidence.

Cliff

This account of Pancreatic cancer was sent to me Friday Oct. 25 by Nan

Parsons.

Cliff

*********

Hello,

I thought I would add my story to the others you have collected.

My husband had pancreatic cancer in 1994 which was discovered during

surgery. It was larger than they had thought from looking at his first

C.A.T. Scan, and it had spread all around. Was grown around two of

the body's main blood carrying vessels and was almost over to the

iver. They removed nothing but took fine needle aspirations. The

lab report on it came back as being Adenoma Carcinoma. They gave him

possibly 3 months to live. When we got home, we treated him with

everything in the alternative field that we could hear or learn

about. One of these items was 1 Tablespoon low fat cottage cheese

mixed with 1 Tablespoon Flax Seed oil, 3 times a day. He gradually got

better, put back on 25 pounds and was feeling good, and so 5 months

after the surgery, I requested another C.A.T. Scan. It showed that

there was no cancer anywhere. The doctors were amazed and didn't knowwhat

to make of it.

Since we had used so many methods of Alternative, we didn't give the

Flax Seed Oil all of the credit - we didn't know what had brought about

the " all clear " . But after reading your testimonies on the Internet, I

have recently begun on it myself, having recently been diagnosed with

breast cancer. Now I am filled with hope.

Nan Parsons

**********

In answer to my request for permission to publish this letter Nan wrote

further as follows:

You are welcome to use this information any way you want. This story has

been published in a widely read newsletter put out by The Health Resource in

Conway, Arkansas.

It eventually reached the Cancer Control society in Los angeles and they

notified my husband and asked him to speak at their annual meeting. He

declined as he does not see himself as a public speaker.

We have copies of he letters from the surgeon [Dr. Postier] in

Oklahoma City [affiliated with Oklahoma University Medical Center] to our

local surgeon [Dr. Tim Gilbert] who referred us to Dr. Postier.

In his lab reports, Dr. Postier reported the type of cancer and gave his

prognosis for my husband.

In spite of these reports we know that Dr. Gilbert absolutely refused to

believe that my husband had ever had cancer when he was the one who had been

searching for the reasons he had been so ill for five months, had him in the

hodspital here in Ponca City, Oklahoma for a week running tests and then

finally sent us to Dr. Postier.

We do know that doctors do refuse to believe anything good can come out of

the Alternative field.

Since that report was published we have sent out hundreds of copies of it to

people all over the nation.

Sincerely

Nan Parson

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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chek out forbiddenmedicine.com and dr.kelly enzymes...also

jaguarenterperise.com(electricmedicine,,,j

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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chek out forbiddenmedicine.com and dr.kelly enzymes...also

jaguarenterperise.com(electricmedicine,,,j

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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Maybe you could try pancreaticenzymes which Dr. . foudn out top be a

good alternatif in treating pancreatcicancer. And make the combination with

a healthy and vegetarian diet and certain nutritinal supplements.

Gr. kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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Maybe you could try pancreaticenzymes which Dr. . foudn out top be a

good alternatif in treating pancreatcicancer. And make the combination with

a healthy and vegetarian diet and certain nutritinal supplements.

Gr. kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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He has had great success with his approach and is a brilliant doctor.

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In a message dated 11/23/02 8:34:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

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> Maybe you could try pancreaticenzymes which Dr.

He has had great success with his approach and is a brilliant doctor.

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Just search on " flax oil and cottage cheese " .I use Google.

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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Just search on " flax oil and cottage cheese " .I use Google.

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Reply to cancer :

I just sent a message on FO and CC but add to it and search on " Cancer,

Flax oil and cottage chesse " .

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

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Reply to cancer :

I just sent a message on FO and CC but add to it and search on " Cancer,

Flax oil and cottage chesse " .

help please

> my friend's 80 year old father has pancreatic cancer, they might operate

but

> his daughter is interested in alternative treatments that may help him

have

> a quality for the rest of his life....

> info on cottage cheese/flax seed oil

> please,

> thanks

> Patti

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Hi Amy, I have never used fresh flowers myself, so I can't help you with this

one. :-(

But I did want to respond to your letter. I will be surfing around later,

and if I come up with any ideas I will let you know.

Barb.

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Hi Mitch

The only one I can think of at the moment is Frontier Medical Services (used

to be know as Exploration Logistics) of Mitcheldean Glos GL17 ODD. E-mail:

frontier@... (or use a search engine to trace their website)

Not the best in the business and certainly not the best payers but a good

place to start on the remote med trail. They now tend to only employ nurses

with the offshore med cert. but worth a try!!

You could also try: medicaljobs@.... They are a large

worldwide remote med provider but can be very slow at answering your

application.

Cheers - S

Help please

Guys,

I am wondering if any of you would be able to help. I am currently coming to

the end of my contract working within a busy orthopaedic fracture clinic and

I am looking for work. (We all are) yet I am wondering if anyone would be

able to give me an address / e-mail or web site of companies who have

positions for medics overseas.

I have heard a lot about mines and remote location sites requiring medics, I

have also read several e-mails from those on the list who work in these

environments, yet when searching I find nothing.

Would anyone be able to shed some light, possibly even point me in the right

direction.

Thank you.

Mitch

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,

Thanks for the info. I have sent off my details to both companies yet

neither have replied.

I also can't get in touch with anyone at international SOS HQ on the dog and

bone. Not unusual eh!

Thanks very much for your information, and if you or anyone else hears about

other company's or organisations requiring medics then please feel free to

let me know.

anthony.mitchell3@...

Thanks again.

Mitch

Help please

>

>

> Guys,

>

> I am wondering if any of you would be able to help. I am currently coming

to

> the end of my contract working within a busy orthopaedic fracture clinic

and

> I am looking for work. (We all are) yet I am wondering if anyone would be

> able to give me an address / e-mail or web site of companies who have

> positions for medics overseas.

>

> I have heard a lot about mines and remote location sites requiring medics,

I

> have also read several e-mails from those on the list who work in these

> environments, yet when searching I find nothing.

>

> Would anyone be able to shed some light, possibly even point me in the

right

> direction.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Mitch

>

>

>

>

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I started by walking. At first it was just around my house, then around the block and now I am up to 2 to 3 miles Monday through Friday. My weekends are another story. LOL

Jelayne

help please

i have been so lazy lately i need to start excerising again my eating is bad but i want to get excerising as a habit any tips on how to restart? please tips?

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> i have been so lazy lately i need to start excerising again my

eating is bad but i want to get excerising as a habit any tips on how

to restart? please tips?

>

My first suggestion is to start slow. Do what you can, if it's only

5 minutes then do 5 for a few days, and slowly build up. Also set a

time frame that works for your exercise and try not planning anything

else during that time. For instance these days My time for exercise

was 9-10am, but has kind of gravitated more towards 10-11am the past

week. When school starts I will move it to a more convienent time of

about 7-8am when my younger 2 will still be asleep and my oldest in

school. I try to schedule things so they will not conflict with

that.

I have been trying to get in exercise in the evening, but as I don't

like to exercise too close to dinner time and not too late because

the endorphins interfere with sleeping I dont' always get that in.

Now that school is starting and I am moving my morning exercise up in

time I am thinking I may move my evening to afternoon so I can do it

before dinner and before the kids get home. This " should " work out

better then my now between 6 and 8pm time.

as for meals I know from experience it is much easier said then done,

but try meal planning. I normally planned my even meals and then

just worked in breakfast and lunch to help comply with dinner. This

week I actually planned all 3 meals and 2 snacks. Start out slowly

though you don't want to try and do too much all at once or it makes

it difficult to stick with the program.

a

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This is from Dr Sherri Tenpenny's book on vaccines.

Let the wound bleed freely, since this helps to eliminate bacteria and suplies

oxygen.

Apply hydrogen peroxide to the wound.

Homeopathic remedies Ledum and Hypericum, administered when a wound looks

suspicious, these have a track record for the prevention of tetanus for more

than a century. Keep these in your medicine cabinet.

Consider use antibiotics and/or TIG (Tetanus Immune Globulin)

Tetanus is not a uniformly fatal disease and treatments are available for

potential infection.

Hope this helps a bit.

Fern

help please

i just read about tetanus on wikipedia and it says the best environment for

tetanus is just

what my son was playing in.... rich organic material AND it said animal

manures including

chickens which their baby chicks live on that compost pile they were digging

in... I feel SICK!

I am so worried. Can anyone help me? Sorry to be so desperate. genna

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Dear Genna,

I understand that panic. Ive felt it often over the years, but we always found

washing with H2O2 sufficient. Then we gave homoeopathic Ledum, but I think that

was more for OUR parental distress than anything else!!!  :0) You see, we also

felt scared by the doctors' dire threats, even though we knew that fear was

being used to market vaccines. 

 

I've been told that one child would lose his fingers if I didn't use

antibiotics, another child would never walk again if we didn't allow him to be

injected with a radioactive isotope & if we refused further aggressive

antibiotic & steroid treatment, and so many other off-the-wall

prognostications....ALL were WRONG! It seems that they will do anything, say

anything, to knock your confidence in the body's ability to heal itself, given

the right fuel.

 

We have " Patient refuses... "   and " Mother refuses... "  all over our files.

 

That Wikipedia stuff is to frighten people into vaccinating. They refrain from

telling you that many people have this bug with no symptoms - hence some people

get tetanus in operating theatres, some from ear infections, etc.  

 

DH was offered a tetanus jab today after he tripped. He had 4 stitches in his

forehead, contusions & lacerations on shoulder, knee & cheek. A gouge, rather

than puncture, and it was on concrete, not compost. He was also offered

antibiotics & ibuprofen. Oh dear, the doctor was unable to up-sell anything & HE

was most distressed. " Do you want fries with that? "  

 

If they cleaned the wound properly, DH wouldn't need a jab. He came home & used

Arnica & took extra vitamin C. The ripped up toe nail is the most painful one,

so we used Hypericum successfully. He's sound asleep now & drug free.

 

Years ago, DH  had 3rd degree oil burns from an industrial-sized pressure cooker

that blew its lid. Burnt from hip to ankle. We just kept misting it with aloe

vera on clean strips of cotton. Twice a day we misted it with colloidal silver.

He was offered the ubiquitous tetanus jab, anti-inflams, pain killers &

antibiotics. We just upped his vitamins & juiced lots of veg..

 

His boss had less severe burns & was in hospital on all of the above drugs for 6

weeks. I would put that down to crappy hospital food that sat in heated cabinets

for hours [not a raw fruit or veg to be found], as well as the deleterious

effects of so many unnecessary drugs and of being surrounded by people who had

no personal interest in his welfare.

DH was back to work on light duties in 10 days & fully functioning a month after

that, thank heavens - nothing worse than having a bored DH invalid at home!!

I think it was Dr R Mendelsohn who said that when someone is diagnosed with

diabetes, the gleeful medicos are looking at $250,000 in future income. That was

over 20 years ago, so they must be a darned sight more gleeful with their

up-selling nowadays.

 

Take heart. If they need to offer jabs, then THEIR wound hygiene is lacking!

What an indictment!

 

Maracuja

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Subject: help please

Vaccinations

Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 7:05 PM

i just read about tetanus on wikipedia and it says the best environment for

tetanus is just

what my son was playing in.... rich organic material AND it said animal manures

including

chickens which their baby chicks live on that compost pile they were digging

in... I feel SICK!

I am so worried. Can anyone help me? Sorry to be so desperate. genna

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Hey Kim!

HOpe your new year was great too, hon.

so sorry to hear of your problems.

I can really understand about the depression....chronic pain, even when

under control can make us depressed, yet alone when it is flairing.

Do you have RSD, or another illness? The reason that I ask, is that with

my RSD, when my RSD spreads, or is having a major flair where it is usually

controlled, tends to burn in places where it doesn't usually. I am certainly

not trying to worry you...this is just how my body reacts.

I do get severe spasms in my legs...bad enough to bring me to my knees.

These are in my legs. Perhpas this is what you had and they are still very

sore

from it. I know my muscles cry for a few days after these spasms.

I am unable to go into a tub of water as it just kills my legs. I cannot

stand the water touching it. I really miss the pool. The water therapy, even

though it was quite painful, did the most help for me. Now that I am a

diabetic, I can't go into the whirlpool anymore anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Your idea about contacting your rep is a good one. it never hurts to ask

questions. the worst that can be said is that it isn't the machine.

I hope you are feeling better ASAP.

Hang in, Kim.

Take care,

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

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Thanks for replying. As far as I know I do not have RSD. I have DJD, lumbar

stenosis, progressive scoliosis, degenerative arthritis, neurological changes

due to my hardware sitting on my SI nerve coming out of the SI joint, and some

other disc issues.

To me the whirlpool in my tub usually helps a lot of my muscle problems it has

been a real god send for me since we got it put in.

I thought that it was the severe spasms too I know exactly what you are talking

about them being so sore afterrwards. This burning however does not feel that

way. I am not sure what it is.

I think I am going to call my rep today and see what he has to say.

Thanks for listening.

Kim L

Re: help please

Hey Kim!

HOpe your new year was great too, hon.

so sorry to hear of your problems.

I can really understand about the depression....chronic pain, even when

under control can make us depressed, yet alone when it is flairing.

Do you have RSD, or another illness? The reason that I ask, is that with

my RSD, when my RSD spreads, or is having a major flair where it is usually

controlled, tends to burn in places where it doesn't usually. I am certainly

not trying to worry you...this is just how my body reacts.

I do get severe spasms in my legs...bad enough to bring me to my knees.

These are in my legs. Perhpas this is what you had and they are still very

sore

from it. I know my muscles cry for a few days after these spasms.

I am unable to go into a tub of water as it just kills my legs. I cannot

stand the water touching it. I really miss the pool. The water therapy, even

though it was quite painful, did the most help for me. Now that I am a

diabetic, I can't go into the whirlpool anymore anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Your idea about contacting your rep is a good one. it never hurts to ask

questions. the worst that can be said is that it isn't the machine.

I hope you are feeling better ASAP.

Hang in, Kim.

Take care,

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

C-owdf

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headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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