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[Guest guest]

Marieliz,

MotheringDotCommune is a great source of more balanced, truthful

information: http://mothering.com/discussions

They have a forum for Vaccinations and for Selected/Delayed Vaccinations.

I have many links, but my web site is down. (grrrrrrr) If you'd like,

you can email me directly; I'll try to answer some questions for you.

~Robyn

Boriquita! wrote:

>

> Hi! My name is Marieliz. I am half-way in my 2nd pregnancy, and I have

> a 3 year old son. I have vaccinated my son, and I have been reading

> things again vaccinations, and I wanted to know the real truth. The

> pro's and the con's. I may not start with vaccinating my unborn child

> once he/she is born. If I did, I wanted to ensure that I would be

> doing it safely. I live in NJ, and half of the children are autistic,

> is it a result of the vaccines. NJ is full of pharmaceutical

> companies, are they really just profit driven? I heard about this

> list in my hypnobabies group since someone wrote an offtopic message

> about vaccinations.

>

>

--

Robyn

robyn@... <mailto:%20robyn@...>

http://www.rmcsquared.net/

[Guest guest]

Welcome!

I sure can help you Sharon. We have a large co-op in central Florida and we are getting raw milk, raw butter and raw cream every two weeks. I will email you off list.

Barbara

If there is anyone in my area that can help me, I would love to hear from you. Thanks for letting me be a part of this group.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon. Just to let you know, milk that has been heated to 145 Fahrenheit and held at that temp for 30 min is pasteurized. If the cream settles to the top, it's "cream-line" meaning not homogenized, but if it's been heated and held, it's not raw. Are you sure WF wasn't just recommending to raw milk buyers that they pasteurize the milk themselves? Most states that allow sales also make sellers post warning signs. I hope you haven't been misled! Good luck with your son's health. -Theresa

You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

[Guest guest]

There is not a law anywhere in the country against the consumption of

raw milk...just the selling of it.

Were legeslators to pass laws against consumption, they would find

themselves voted out REAL quick because of the uprising...I just wish

the consumption folks would rise up as strongly in defense of the

producers. If they don't...and soon...there won't be any more

producers and it won't matter.

Bob Hayles

>

> Is bartering for raw milk illegal or just the selling? Is consuming

it illegal or just selling of it?

> NC Organic Lover/ Darlene

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on

Yahoo! TV.

>

[Guest guest]

We feed 30+lbs./day of raw milk to our pigs-n-chickens b/c I'm afraid of the militant

VDACS.

The s

--- Re: new member introDate: Fri, April 04, 2008 12:18 pmTo: RawDairy

There is not a law anywhere in the country against the consumption ofraw milk...just the selling of it.Were legeslators to pass laws against consumption, they would findthemselves voted out REAL quick because of the uprising...I just wishthe consumption folks would rise up as strongly in defense of theproducers. If they don't...and soon...there won't be any moreproducers and it won't matter.Bob Hayles>> Is bartering for raw milk illegal or just the selling? Is consumingit illegal or just selling of it?> NC Organic Lover/ Darlene> > > ---------------------------------> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks onYahoo! TV.>

[Guest guest]

We feed 30+lbs./day of raw milk to our pigs-n-chickens b/c I'm afraid of the militant

VDACS.

The s

--- Re: new member introDate: Fri, April 04, 2008 12:18 pmTo: RawDairy

There is not a law anywhere in the country against the consumption ofraw milk...just the selling of it.Were legeslators to pass laws against consumption, they would findthemselves voted out REAL quick because of the uprising...I just wishthe consumption folks would rise up as strongly in defense of theproducers. If they don't...and soon...there won't be any moreproducers and it won't matter.Bob Hayles>> Is bartering for raw milk illegal or just the selling? Is consumingit illegal or just selling of it?> NC Organic Lover/ Darlene> > > ---------------------------------> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks onYahoo! TV.>

[Guest guest]

We feed 30+lbs./day of raw milk to our pigs-n-chickens b/c I'm afraid of the militant

VDACS.

The s

--- Re: new member introDate: Fri, April 04, 2008 12:18 pmTo: RawDairy

There is not a law anywhere in the country against the consumption ofraw milk...just the selling of it.Were legeslators to pass laws against consumption, they would findthemselves voted out REAL quick because of the uprising...I just wishthe consumption folks would rise up as strongly in defense of theproducers. If they don't...and soon...there won't be any moreproducers and it won't matter.Bob Hayles>> Is bartering for raw milk illegal or just the selling? Is consumingit illegal or just selling of it?> NC Organic Lover/ Darlene> > > ---------------------------------> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks onYahoo! TV.>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group. Symptoms and history very similar to many. The

long, long road you went down was surely not unique to many. I was

relatively lucky in that it only took a year to get directed to my

Rheumy and then further testing and follow up to the DX. If this damn

thing were always the same in all of us and followed the same path of

symptoms it would be so much easier. And it always seems that the

fevers and the rash become the " ah Ha! " moment.

Someone on the site noted that many of our new members seem to be

getting diagnosed earlier than in the past. Maybe we are making some

inroads. In the words of the Three Stooges, " I sointanly hope so " .

Glad to have you here. There are a lot of good people posting

regularly.

Tom from PA

>

> Hey there I'm 37 and live in Las Vegas.

> My Still's story begins in 1988 when I'd get high 103+ fevers,

> night sweats and chills headaches and body aches, the whole deal.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group. Symptoms and history very similar to many. The

long, long road you went down was surely not unique to many. I was

relatively lucky in that it only took a year to get directed to my

Rheumy and then further testing and follow up to the DX. If this damn

thing were always the same in all of us and followed the same path of

symptoms it would be so much easier. And it always seems that the

fevers and the rash become the " ah Ha! " moment.

Someone on the site noted that many of our new members seem to be

getting diagnosed earlier than in the past. Maybe we are making some

inroads. In the words of the Three Stooges, " I sointanly hope so " .

Glad to have you here. There are a lot of good people posting

regularly.

Tom from PA

>

> Hey there I'm 37 and live in Las Vegas.

> My Still's story begins in 1988 when I'd get high 103+ fevers,

> night sweats and chills headaches and body aches, the whole deal.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group. Symptoms and history very similar to many. The

long, long road you went down was surely not unique to many. I was

relatively lucky in that it only took a year to get directed to my

Rheumy and then further testing and follow up to the DX. If this damn

thing were always the same in all of us and followed the same path of

symptoms it would be so much easier. And it always seems that the

fevers and the rash become the " ah Ha! " moment.

Someone on the site noted that many of our new members seem to be

getting diagnosed earlier than in the past. Maybe we are making some

inroads. In the words of the Three Stooges, " I sointanly hope so " .

Glad to have you here. There are a lot of good people posting

regularly.

Tom from PA

>

> Hey there I'm 37 and live in Las Vegas.

> My Still's story begins in 1988 when I'd get high 103+ fevers,

> night sweats and chills headaches and body aches, the whole deal.

[Guest guest]

welcome and all the new one I have not said it to yet . glad ya found us

but sad you were looking . know this were a family good and bad so sit down and

join in as we all welcome ya

the redneck

Marty

The whole of that Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people

at large or considered as individuals...t establishes some rights of the

individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to

deprive them of.

---Albert Gallatin to , Oct 7, 1789

The great object is that every man be armed " and " everyone who is able may have

a gun. " ( Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the

Constitution.

No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.

--- Jefferson: 1776

" Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition

of private firearms is the goal. " Janet Reno

as United States attorney general in the Clinton white house (now do we really

want Hillary there to?)

so what is the truth? what the founding fathers ment, or what people today try

to twist it to ?

Give up one right and the others will soon fallow

"

Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

New member intro

Hey there I'm 37 and live in Las Vegas.

My Still's story begins in 1988 when I'd get high 103+ fevers,

night sweats and chills headaches and body aches, the whole deal.

Edited By Moderator

[Guest guest]

welcome and all the new one I have not said it to yet . glad ya found us

but sad you were looking . know this were a family good and bad so sit down and

join in as we all welcome ya

the redneck

Marty

The whole of that Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people

at large or considered as individuals...t establishes some rights of the

individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to

deprive them of.

---Albert Gallatin to , Oct 7, 1789

The great object is that every man be armed " and " everyone who is able may have

a gun. " ( Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the

Constitution.

No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.

--- Jefferson: 1776

" Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition

of private firearms is the goal. " Janet Reno

as United States attorney general in the Clinton white house (now do we really

want Hillary there to?)

so what is the truth? what the founding fathers ment, or what people today try

to twist it to ?

Give up one right and the others will soon fallow

"

Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

New member intro

Hey there I'm 37 and live in Las Vegas.

My Still's story begins in 1988 when I'd get high 103+ fevers,

night sweats and chills headaches and body aches, the whole deal.

Edited By Moderator

[Guest guest]

welcome and all the new one I have not said it to yet . glad ya found us

but sad you were looking . know this were a family good and bad so sit down and

join in as we all welcome ya

the redneck

Marty

The whole of that Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people

at large or considered as individuals...t establishes some rights of the

individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to

deprive them of.

---Albert Gallatin to , Oct 7, 1789

The great object is that every man be armed " and " everyone who is able may have

a gun. " ( Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the

Constitution.

No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.

--- Jefferson: 1776

" Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition

of private firearms is the goal. " Janet Reno

as United States attorney general in the Clinton white house (now do we really

want Hillary there to?)

so what is the truth? what the founding fathers ment, or what people today try

to twist it to ?

Give up one right and the others will soon fallow

"

Stills ; An illness I know to well!

To learn about Stills http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info

New member intro

Hey there I'm 37 and live in Las Vegas.

My Still's story begins in 1988 when I'd get high 103+ fevers,

night sweats and chills headaches and body aches, the whole deal.

Edited By Moderator

[Guest guest]

Hi, a. You shouldn't feel awful for doing what you thought was best at the

time (although I still do, too). You're doing the right thing to research

vaccines, no matter when you start.

Here are some thoughts: One, always follow your gut instincts. Two, I would ask

your husband what is special about those diseases you mentioned over other ones.

Is it just coincidence that those are the " original " ones given? Just trying to

understand why he wouldn't go for all of them if he was really worried.

Winnie

New Member Intro

Vaccinations

> Hello, I have just signed up for the vaccinations group and what

> a wealth of information it has provided! I have a boy, Colin,

> 18 months old, and have recently decided to stop his vaccination

> schedule after conducting much research over the past few

> months. I feel awful that that I gave in to the herd mentality

> and trusted his pediatrician that vaccines were safe and allowed

> them to administer them to him for the first 15 months of his

> life, even though my maternal instinct fought this every step of

> the way. I thank God that he has not shown any signs of injury.

> I plan to start Colin on a chiropractic schedule to help with

> his overall well being as well. My gut feeling is to not

> administer any vaccinations going forward, however, my husband

> is more leery, and feels that we should at least administer

> pertussis, diphtheria, tetanus and polio. Any thoughts on this?

> I would at least wait until Colin is 2 or older. Also, I can

> only assume that his

> pediatrician will no longer see him once we inform him we will

> no longer vaccinate. Can anyone recommend a Naturopath or other

> Doctor in the ton, SC area that is accepting to parents

> decision not to vaccinate? Thanks so much.

>

> a

> ton, SC

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Traci - I'm an adoptive mom, too! Both from birth. I had the same

reservations and allowed both children to receive the Hep B to not raise any

flags. I then jumped through hoops to switch from pedi to pedi so no one could

keep track of their " schedule " , as in our state, the children are " wards of the

state " for a mandatory 6 months.

Sheri then helped me find a holistic doctor that didn't press re: vacc's (that

was a blessing) Then the papers came from the courts/social worker re: vaccine

status. I called the social worker at that time to confess my husband and I had

religious convictions. She told me " so, don't vacc. You're the parents " . What

a blessing and relief that was! It could be different from state to state, I'm

not sure. Are you going through an agency? Email me off list if you want and

we can discuss this further.

CONGRATULATIONS!!! By the way, to clear up a myth I felt for 10 years prior

to adopting, you don't have to give birth to be a mom. I've never felt any

different about my two little bundles of joy!!!

[Guest guest]

Traci-

Just wanted to say even as an adoptive mom you can breastfeed! I have not

done it myself, but it is a little know fact woman can lactate at any time

in their life it does not require having been pregnant. There are biblical

stories of grandmothers nursing their grandchildren. I am not sure exactly

how you would go about it maybe your local La Leche League could help you

find resources. Things that would be obvious to me would be to take

phenugreek or an herbal blend called More Milk (at health food stores) &

pumping even if no milk comes out. I would investigate it further if I were

you & in the meantime find a breast milk bank so you will have a little

supply on hand.

Brekka

[Guest guest]

We were thinking of adoption and one of the hook ups my DH and I have is vax.

issue. Esp. if it is a foster to adopt situation. I think legally you have to

vax. We are in TN. Anyone know.

b

[Guest guest]

There is no law that you have to vaccinate it is a requirement for

Schools and Daycare ( and there are exemptions)

I am not sure about the adoption but I am sure there is a way to get

around it.

Possible some info at

www.nvic.org

www.novaccine.com

I am sure there are others that have some experience to share.

Casey

Learn - Shop - Explore - www.SunshineOrganics.net

Holistic Moms Network - www.holisticmoms.org

Creating Healthy Environments for our Children - www.healthychild.org

We were thinking of adoption and one of the hook ups my DH and I have

is vax. issue. Esp. if it is a foster to adopt situation. I think

legally you have to vax. We are in TN. Anyone know.

[Guest guest]

I found more info about BF when adopting here it is

http://www.mothering.com/articles/new_baby/breastfeeding/adopted.html

Brekka

>

> Traci-

>

> Just wanted to say even as an adoptive mom you can breastfeed! I

have not

> done it myself, but it is a little know fact woman can lactate at

any time

> in their life it does not require having been pregnant. There are

biblical

> stories of grandmothers nursing their grandchildren. I am not sure

exactly

> how you would go about it maybe your local La Leche League could

help you

> find resources. Things that would be obvious to me would be to take

> phenugreek or an herbal blend called More Milk (at health food stores) &

> pumping even if no milk comes out. I would investigate it further if

I were

> you & in the meantime find a breast milk bank so you will have a little

> supply on hand.

>

> Brekka

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine breastfed her adoptive baby girl as well. If you

need more info on adoptive breastfeeding, contact me and I can put

you in touch with her who I am sure can put you in touch with several

other people!

Tara

> >

> > Traci-

> >

> > Just wanted to say even as an adoptive mom you can breastfeed! I

> have not

> > done it myself, but it is a little know fact woman can lactate at

> any time

> > in their life it does not require having been pregnant. There are

> biblical

> > stories of grandmothers nursing their grandchildren. I am not sure

> exactly

> > how you would go about it maybe your local La Leche League could

> help you

> > find resources. Things that would be obvious to me would be to

take

> > phenugreek or an herbal blend called More Milk (at health food

stores) &

> > pumping even if no milk comes out. I would investigate it further

if

> I were

> > you & in the meantime find a breast milk bank so you will have a

little

> > supply on hand.

> >

> > Brekka

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Katarina! It's pretty common to not be 100% with decisions we make as

parents. I felt the same way once upon a time about vaccines (not any more!) and

still second guess myself quite frequently about other parenting issues. Your

son is still young and will likely come down with illnesses from time to time.

Be assured it is NOT because you failed to vaccinate him, but because no child

gets through childhood without illnesses.

As for those who say their kids are fine, great. I hope it continues that way in

the future because the long term damage is just not going to show yet. When I

was little, cancer was a rare thing--and it was unheard of for kids to get it.

Nowadays, people my age (55) and younger are dropping like flies from cancer,

brain tumors, etc. (or from the treatment).

I don't know that unvaxed kids will always be the picture of perfect health.

Vaccines aren't the only toxin in the environment. But you sure will have a

better time of dealing with it without the added stress of injected poisons

directly into their closest environment--their bodies!

Your son is complete unvaxed? He didn't get a Hep B vax at birth? Having a nut

allergy is a pretty severe allergy, and I believe it's so common now because of

the Hep B--I don't see it much in kids who were born before 1991. As for the

respiratory allergies and eczema, skin and lung problems can go together. It

could be something in the home? Carpeting maybe?

Winnie

New member intro

Vaccinations

> Hi everyone,

> I signed up here a few months ago but just now decided to

> finally

> post a message. I read the daily digest with interest, i even

> like

> the " OT " topics which give me some new info that could be useful

> in

> the future. I am originally from Ukraine and now live with dh

> and ds

> in NJ. Ds is almost 4 years old and unvaxed. I also stragle with

> my

> desicion a lot and not 100% sure if i am making the right one. I

> am

> completely alone on this as everyone around me vaccinates their

> children faithfully. I tend to not disclose to people about my

> son

> not being vaccinated but those around me kind of push me from

> time to

> time saying that their children are fine, no reactions, no

> autism, no

> major health issues. I wouldn't say that my son looks

> " healthier "

> than my friend's fully vaxed kids even though he is unvaxed and

> on

> raw dairy and home cooked NT diet. I keep reading that unvaxed

> children should be a picture of vibrant health, is it trut or is

> it

> wishful thinking? My son is health but does have eczema flare-

> ups

> form certain foods like most seafood and is very allergic to

> most

> nuts. Also, this winter he had a lot of respiratory issues for

> the

> first time that no natural remedies would help, but is finally

> getting better. My doctor is DR. Sclachter in NJ who diagnosed

> him

> with " reactive airways " which is a step away from asthma(i cross

> my

> fingers & pray it will not be!)Well enough writing for now. I

> look

> forward to meeting everyone and sharing this board with others!

>

> Katarina in NJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

Katarina <kkatkov@...> wrote: Hi everyone,

I signed up here a few months ago but just now decided to finally

post a message. I read the daily digest with interest, i even like

the " OT " topics which give me some new info that could be useful in

the future. I am originally from Ukraine and now live with dh and ds

in NJ. Ds is almost 4 years old and unvaxed. I also stragle with my

desicion a lot and not 100% sure if i am making the right one. I am

completely alone on this as everyone around me vaccinates their

children faithfully. I tend to not disclose to people about my son

not being vaccinated but those around me kind of push me from time to

time saying that their children are fine, no reactions, no autism, no

major health issues. I wouldn't say that my son looks " healthier "

than my friend's fully vaxed kids even though he is unvaxed and on

raw dairy and home cooked NT diet. I keep reading that unvaxed

children should be a picture of vibrant health, is it trut or is it

wishful thinking? My son is health but does have eczema flare-ups

form certain foods like most seafood and is very allergic to most

nuts. Also, this winter he had a lot of respiratory issues for the

first time that no natural remedies would help, but is finally

getting better. My doctor is DR. Sclachter in NJ who diagnosed him

with " reactive airways " which is a step away from asthma(i cross my

fingers & pray it will not be!)Well enough writing for now. I look

forward to meeting everyone and sharing this board with others!

Katarina in NJ

[Guest guest]

Hi Katarina!

I just wanted to give you some food for thought. The majority of

diseases that we are vaccinating against were rarely fatal. However,

the risk of death, chronic disease, and neurological problems is huge

simply by vaccinating. Last year, I thought that I was doing the

right thing by only vaccinating my child with certain vaccines. I

learned the hard way. He still suffered from high-pitched screaming,

convulsions, developmental delays, regression in milestones. It

scared me to death. I was told that he will be just " fine " . I now

know that the true extent of his injuries may not be evident until

the school years. He is currently 14 mo. and I stopped vaccinating

at 6 mo. I was shocked to read the vaccine literature after the

fact.

While he was going through all of that I noticed that my hearing

hasn't been quite right. I know now that I suffered from hearing

loss/auditory processing disorder (which is a learning disability!)

from one rubella vaccine that I received shortly after his birth.

Both of our situations are just a case of " prove it " .

I am amazed to find that so many unvaccinated children are truly

healthier than the vaccinated. If your only concern is respiratory

illnesses, count your blessings. I can't tell you how many kids are

so sick in daycare (all vaccinated). Every month they seem to have

something going around. That is my answer right there. Many parents

are not true " health nuts " either. When it comes to vaccinating you

really must weigh the " risks " and the " benefits " . I later learned

that my 14 yr old's lazy eye (vision damage) was from one dose of Hep

B at just 6 mo. I have pictures before and after to prove it.

Hearing and vision damage are the most common adverse reactions to

many vaccines too (among other things).

When I learned that the CDC is lying about the number of flu deaths,

I began to question everything, research everything....The CDC stated

recently that 36,000 people die each year from the flu, yet their

reported numbers tell a far different story.

http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/preliminarydeaths05_tables.pdf#5

(page 33 out of 40)

In 2005 they reported 1,806 (the majority of all of these deaths were

in the elderly too) ** if they can lie about this, they can lie

about anything and get away with it.

Many studies have been done regarding the safety of vaccines. These

studies were all dismissed by WHO, the FDA, the CDC, the AAP, and

NIH. The only valid studies that we are told to believe are the ones

conducted by the drug manufacturers. Look at the recent VIOXX

scandal. This drug made by MERCK is estimated to have killed 60,000

people. They also make many vaccines for infants and adults. Check

out the book the " Vaccine Safety Manual " by Neil Z. for actual

documented studies (over 1,000!). Why have they all been dismissed?

Profits are more important. Profits from the sale of vaccines and

profits for everything that the vaccines cause. There is no current

system of checks and balances regarding vaccine safety.

I was also shocked to find that infants who died from vaccine

preventable diseases were usually vaccinated for other things (their

immune system was far weaker).

Other great books are also on the market by Neil Z. too. Also

check out books by Dr. Cave.

I know, it is truly scary to question everything that we have been

taught over the years. We must though because if you child is one of

the thousands that suffer from vaccine damage, it is truly horrifying

and it is just your word against theirs..... " prove it "

There is a disclaimer on every vaccine now that scares me. They

don't know if they cause cancer, alter our DNA, or impair our

fertility...

http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf (to view all vaccines)

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf (page 7 to view

ex. of new warning)

I think I will take my chances considering the drug manufacturers

only test vaccines for usually 5-10 days only. Many doctors reported

A.L.L. leukemia occurring after certain vaccines too after filing a

report with VAERS - they felt the vaccines were to blame.

http://vaers.hhs.gov/scripts/data.cfm

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/

I hate to say this too, but the majority of states do not allow you

to vaccinate with " some " . They could fight you in court if you don't

do all. It has happened when parents tried to claim religious,

medical, or philosophical exemptions.

Also, go to www.generationrescue.org Tons of info on this site alone

(not just about Autism).

Ear infections are a common adverse reaction to many vaccines. Yes,

they can occur much later too...Unfortunately, many things can cause

them too (not just vaccines)....possible transmission from a

vaccinated child due to colds.

My brother was in the Coast Guard and vaccinated for everything. He

then contracted a life-threatening illness 2 yrs. later (he recovered

from a vegetative state thankfully due to homeopathic medicine). It

attacked his brain, spinal cord, etc. The doctors gave us no hope.

I flew from CA to MA with the intention of burying my brother. After

reading articles by Dr. Blaylock, I now blame his vaccines

because you don't relapse with viral meningitis 3x (take a turn for

the worse) or need 5 spinal taps for a diagnosis. They simply didn't

know what he had or how to cure it. They sure as heck don't blame

his countless vaccines.

Trust me, you are doing the right thing.....don't make the same

mistake I did. My whole family is paying dearly for it now. Please

don't hesitate to email me with questions. I researched vaccines for

months. They really are useless and for the parents to say that

their child was " fine " is probably clueless.

Dawn

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> Hi everyone,

> I signed up here a few months ago but just now decided to finally

> post a message. I read the daily digest with interest, i even like

> the " OT " topics which give me some new info that could be useful in

> the future. I am originally from Ukraine and now live with dh and

ds

> in NJ. Ds is almost 4 years old and unvaxed. I also stragle with my

> desicion a lot and not 100% sure if i am making the right one. I am

> completely alone on this as everyone around me vaccinates their

> children faithfully. I tend to not disclose to people about my son

> not being vaccinated but those around me kind of push me from time

to

> time saying that their children are fine, no reactions, no autism,

no

> major health issues. I wouldn't say that my son looks " healthier "

> than my friend's fully vaxed kids even though he is unvaxed and on

> raw dairy and home cooked NT diet. I keep reading that unvaxed

> children should be a picture of vibrant health, is it trut or is it

> wishful thinking? My son is health but does have eczema flare-ups

> form certain foods like most seafood and is very allergic to most

> nuts. Also, this winter he had a lot of respiratory issues for the

> first time that no natural remedies would help, but is finally

> getting better. My doctor is DR. Sclachter in NJ who diagnosed him

> with " reactive airways " which is a step away from asthma(i cross my

> fingers & pray it will not be!)Well enough writing for now. I look

> forward to meeting everyone and sharing this board with others!

>

> Katarina in NJ

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> I don't know that unvaxed kids will always be the picture of

perfect health. Vaccines aren't the only toxin in the environment.

Winnie, i agree with you on this point. I believe there are many

other factors in our modern life that surely contribute to our

illnesses.

>

> Your son is complete unvaxed? He didn't get a Hep B vax at birth?

Having a nut allergy is a pretty severe allergy, and I believe it's

so common now because of the Hep B--I don't see it much in kids who

were born before 1991. As for the respiratory allergies and eczema,

skin and lung problems can go together. It could be something in the

home? Carpeting maybe?

He is completely unvaxed. I denied Hep.B when it was offered at the

hospital. I just signed a paper that i deny it. I also noticed that

back in Ukraine where i spent 14 years of my life, no one ever had

any food allergies even though the kids are vaxed over there. You're

talking about Hep.B specificaly causing nut allergies? hmmm, could

be. My son is also allergic to most seafood but he does take cod

liver oil and can have shrimp. The only nut that i know he is OK with

is pecans, how weired is that? He might tolerate some other nuts but

i am affraid to try, so he just stays away from anything with nuts.

Katarina K.

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> > Hi everyone,

> > I signed up here a few months ago but just now decided to

> > finally

> > post a message. I read the daily digest with interest, i even

> > like

> > the " OT " topics which give me some new info that could be useful

> > in

> > the future. I am originally from Ukraine and now live with dh

> > and ds

> > in NJ. Ds is almost 4 years old and unvaxed. I also stragle with

> > my

> > desicion a lot and not 100% sure if i am making the right one. I

> > am

> > completely alone on this as everyone around me vaccinates their

> > children faithfully. I tend to not disclose to people about my

> > son

> > not being vaccinated but those around me kind of push me from

> > time to

> > time saying that their children are fine, no reactions, no

> > autism, no

> > major health issues. I wouldn't say that my son looks

> > " healthier "

> > than my friend's fully vaxed kids even though he is unvaxed and

> > on

> > raw dairy and home cooked NT diet. I keep reading that unvaxed

> > children should be a picture of vibrant health, is it trut or is

> > it

> > wishful thinking? My son is health but does have eczema flare-

> > ups

> > form certain foods like most seafood and is very allergic to

> > most

> > nuts. Also, this winter he had a lot of respiratory issues for

> > the

> > first time that no natural remedies would help, but is finally

> > getting better. My doctor is DR. Sclachter in NJ who diagnosed

> > him

> > with " reactive airways " which is a step away from asthma(i cross

> > my

> > fingers & pray it will not be!)Well enough writing for now. I

> > look

> > forward to meeting everyone and sharing this board with others!

> >

> > Katarina in NJ

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> Trust me, you are doing the right thing.....don't make the same

> mistake I did. My whole family is paying dearly for it now. Please

> don't hesitate to email me with questions. I researched vaccines for

> months. They really are useless and for the parents to say that

> their child was " fine " is probably clueless.

>

> Hi Dawn, thank you for such informative and lenghthy e-mail, i

appreciate your support. Lots of good info to read through, thanks

again!

Katarina K.

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