Ringworm

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At 09:54 AM 7/5/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Ringworm has entered our peaceful household. I've got a small amount of

>neem oil I can use. Does anyone have a good ointment recipe that might

>work?

I'd use the neem as a base, and add tea tree oil... 15-20 drops per oz of

Neem.

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In a message dated 5/16/01 2:12:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rhbailey@... writes:

> On the Lyme list, I've heard of doctors misdiagnosing an erythema migrans

> rash (shows up in some but not all cases of Lyme disease) as a ringworm.

>

Well, if I put Lotrisone (anti-fungal cream) on it it will go away.

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It is my understanding that you don't get athlete's foot, so maybe ringworm

as well, unless there is something going on withyour immune system that

makes you vulnerable. When I was a kid, I would shower in the group showers

at the gym at school and never got it. Then when I got older, I started

getting athete's foot. So, just like most illnesses, it is around all the

time, but you don't get it unless something is " wrong " . I will see a

homeopath about this, myself, when I get home, now that I am thinking about

it as a way to deal with this problem. Sandy from Alaska

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Ringworm

>>We dont even have any animals to keep this fungus around so I dont

understand. What else can cause ringworm? I know she got it from my

sister's cat months ago too. I didnt know that she would be at risk for

ringworm being near a cat or I wouldnt of let her near it. <<

Ringworm isn't always spread by animals. They can have it and spread it the

same as humans, but it is the same fungus that causes jock itch and

athlete's foot. All one in the same, just on different areas of the body.

Try a tea tree oil ointment (not straight tea tree oil). I like the one by

Desert Essence. This has worked for me. We have it going around our

house - my husband seems to be prone to it, he always has jock itch in some

place or another, and it gets spread in the shower. He works outside and

sweats all day long. Lucky me, I'm pregnant with hot, swollen feet now and

I just started to get athlete's foot, probably spread from my husband and

the fact that my feet are so damn hot and swollen! Spray down whereever you

bathe (baby tub, shower, whatever) with Apple cider Vinegar after each

shower.

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Yes, I agree you can prevent it by wearing flip-flops in the shower. I do

that when I travel - although it doesn't always work. But, of course, that

does not address the underlying issue of why you are " catching " it in the

first place. Sandy from Alaska

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Ringworm

>>It is my understanding that you don't get athlete's foot, so maybe

ringworm

as well, unless there is something going on withyour immune system that

makes you vulnerable<<

I agree! I never had it until I got married, although we dated for 8 years

before we got married and lived together. I've made a zillion

recommendations to hubby to get rid of this, and he flat out refuses. He

refuses to give up beer, soda, white flour, etc. He refuses to soak daily

in ACV, Pau D'Arco, etc. " Forgets " to take his multivitamins. I've just

about given up - but it makes me angry that because he's too damn lazy to do

this, that I am catching it from him, and the day my daughter gets it, he's

gonna be in major trouble! We argue every night over him " remembering " to

wear flip flops in the shower and spray it down with the ACV. he says it

doesn't make sense that we are catching it from him (DUH!), although my

argument is " Believe what you want to, but just humor me and wear the damn

things! Its takes all of 1 sec. to put them on!

P.S. - I've spoken with my naturopath about it, and the problem right now is

that I'm pregnant, and I can't start messing around with my body too much

until after I have this kid. One problem is I'm hypothyroid, and on

Synthroid. Once I have this baby, we are going to start trying to get me on

a more natural thyroid supplement, but don't want to start messing with

things quite yet. Soon enough, I'm due 8/23.

Michell

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> >>We dont even have any animals to keep this fungus around so I

dont understand. What else can cause ringworm? I know she got it

from my sister's cat months ago too. I didnt know that she would be

at risk for ringworm being near a cat or I wouldnt of let her near

it. <<

>

> Ringworm isn't always spread by animals. They can have it and

spread it the same as humans, but it is the same fungus that causes

jock itch and athlete's foot. All one in the same, just on different

areas of the body.

>

> Try a tea tree oil ointment (not straight tea tree oil). I like

the one by Desert Essence. This has worked for me. We have it going

around our house - my husband seems to be prone to it, he always has

jock itch in some place or another, and it gets spread in the

shower. He works outside and sweats all day long. Lucky me, I'm

pregnant with hot, swollen feet now and I just started to get

athlete's foot, probably spread from my husband and the fact that my

feet are so damn hot and swollen! Spray down whereever you bathe

(baby tub, shower, whatever) with Apple cider Vinegar after each

shower.

Hello,

I agree that tea tree oil is excellent for any fungal infection, but

it can be quite " antiseptic " in smell and the 1,8 cineole content can

be potentially irritating to the skin, especially that of a young

baby.

As an aromatherapist, can I add that other essential oils which work

well for ringworm include geranium (make sure there is no sensitivity)

(and this also works brilliantly for reducing the itching of

varicella spots), thyme (must be Sweet Thyme, Thymus Vulgaris, ct.

alcohol) and Rose Otto ( Centifolia/Damascena). Rose oil would

be my choice for a baby, and it is very strongly anti-fungal - more

so than tea tree, which, IMHO, is over-rated.

Best wishes,

Sue

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I would imagine tea-tree oil would be helpful. It helps for athlete's foot,

dandruff, and any number of skin issues.

Good luck,

Leila

> Does anyone know of any type of oil that you could put on ringworms? I took

> my daughter to the doctor and they told me to use anything for athletes feet

> but those things will go away for a little while and then come back. Now

> everyone in my family has been infected with them.

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Thank you Leila, I'll try that.

Ralondia

Re: Ringworm

> I would imagine tea-tree oil would be helpful. It helps for athlete's

foot, dandruff, and any number of skin issues.

>

> Good luck,

> Leila

>

> > Does anyone know of any type of oil that you could put on ringworms? I

took

> > my daughter to the doctor and they told me to use anything for athletes

feet

> > but those things will go away for a little while and then come back.

Now

> > everyone in my family has been infected with them.

>

>

>

>

>

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Ringworm is caused by a fungus, I doubt that tea tree or any other oil would

Kill the fungus-so yes it will keep coming back until you kill it. There are

plenty of over the counter antifungal preparations that you can buy i.e.

absorbine jr., etc. You also need to know that fungi are difficult to kill

so you may need to use it for like 2 weeks to make sure you got it. Good

luck.

>From: LSGaines <flyingpig@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Ringworm

>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:27:06 -0700

>

>I would imagine tea-tree oil would be helpful. It helps for athlete's

>foot, dandruff, and any number of skin issues.

>

>Good luck,

>Leila

>

> > Does anyone know of any type of oil that you could put on ringworms? I

>took

> > my daughter to the doctor and they told me to use anything for athletes

>feet

> > but those things will go away for a little while and then come back.

>Now

> > everyone in my family has been infected with them.

>

>

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With all due respect I have to disagree.

Tea tree is effective for fungus. I have a medical

study somewhere in my files

showing the results of a double blind placebo

controlled clinical study comparing the

effectiveness of a cream made with 15% tea tree

versus the prescription cream

for foot fungus, and the tea tree was almost as

effective in curing the fungus, but

was even more effective in keeping it from coming

back.

I have had really amazing results using tea tree

for foot fungus, and I would

not hesitate to use it as a first defense against

other fungi. Applying it neat

(no dilution) as long as you are not sensitive to

it, seems to be most effective.

Did you know that tea tree applied neat, takes the

itch from poison ivy rash?

Ask me how I know? :-)

I will search my files for the URL for the study,

if others are interested.

May take a few days though, as I am playing " beat

the clock " trying to get

stuff ready for my first home party. Wish me luck!

I'm already a nervous wreck! LOL

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: " Becky Stuvengen " <bekstu@...>

> Ringworm is caused by a fungus, I doubt that tea

tree or any other oil would

> Kill the fungus-so yes it will keep coming back

until you kill it. There are

> plenty of over the counter antifungal

preparations that you can buy i.e.

> absorbine jr., etc. You also need to know that

fungi are difficult to kill

> so you may need to use it for like 2 weeks to

make sure you got it. Good

> luck.

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Tea tree oil has taken care of fungus for me in the past. Recently, I

was diagnosed with lichen planus--there is no cure for this skin

disease. My dermatologist asked me what I was doing to get some relief.

I told her that I had been treating the itch with tea tree oil and that

it reduced the itch quite a bit. She told me that it was an excellant

idea and as long as I didn't over-do it, or develope sensitivity, to

keep right on using it for flare-ups. I intend to do just that.

No other over the counter cream worked as well. Of course, this is just

my experience, but if it helps anyone to know this, or to hear at least

one medical opinion, maybe it's worth sharing.

---Colleen

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Tea Tree Oil is an anti-fungal. Being recognized by the traditional medical

community now. Homeopathic and Holistic medicine has known about it for

years. Another thing with any fungal problems is: They continue to persist

with warmth and moisture. Therefore the big concern with keeping the areas

dry and cool as possible. Another thing is the presence of much " sugar " in

ones diet will often promote the fungal infection. I know one woman that is

so sensitive to fungal infections just 2 candy bars and regular soda will

bring one on!

Just some things to look at when trying to deal with any fungal infection.

Cate

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http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/gw/Cmd

This is the URL for the National Library of

Medicine (NLM) Gateway. Do a search for the terms

" Tea Tree " and " Fungus "

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: " Ralondia Plair " <ralondia@...>

> Thanks Heidi I really would like that URL.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Heidi Scholes " <hscholes1@...>

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> Ringworm is caused by a fungus, I doubt that tea tree or any other oil

would

> Kill the fungus-so yes it will keep coming back until you kill it.

When my children were little they both got a bad case of ringworm. I took

them to our pediatrician and he prescribed white iodine.

You can get it at any pharmacy. Just put the iodine on the ringworm and it

will kill it in a very short time.

Blessings:

Raven

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Heidi,

I agree with you. Tea tree is what I use for cold sores(got rid of it in a

couple of days). It was the only thing that cleared up my husband's poison

ivy.

Sharon

> With all due respect I have to disagree.

>

> Tea tree is effective for fungus. I> Did you know that tea tree applied

neat, takes the

> itch from poison ivy rash?

> Ask me how I know? :-)

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Hi. This is the first time I've posted - if thats the right word. I'm from NZ,

and was wondering if the Tea Tree " stuff " would be safe to use on a baby. My

9month old great niece has ringworm, and I was wondering if it would be safe to

use on her?

Charmaine (from NZ).

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Hi .

has suffered with the mouth ulcers now for close to a year that we are

aware of. It was thought at first to either be a reaction to one of his long

term meds, or cyclic neutropenia. The last suggestion was part of an auto

immune disease, or to do with his GERD, his specialists have yet to work

out the cause, they seem to run in cycles of 10 -14 days with a day without,

then up they start again. eats very little, in fact almost no food, and

we maintain his weight with Pedisure supplement, which he finds easier to take

in a bottle although he is approaching 4yo.

The ulcers are usually fairly small, and accompanied by blood spots. The

immuno has told me they are definitely not canker. They do have a white centre.

At times the inside of s cheeks are so enflamed they are thick, lumpy and

swollen. I dont know how he manages with everything else he has to cope with.

ringworm

,

I cannot offer any help with the " ringworm " . However what are the

mouth ulcers

related too? Are there frequent boughts of them? Are they almost like a

" canka " with a whitehead?

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Hi .

has suffered with the mouth ulcers now for close to a year that we are

aware of. It was thought at first to either be a reaction to one of his long

term meds, or cyclic neutropenia. The last suggestion was part of an auto

immune disease, or to do with his GERD, his specialists have yet to work

out the cause, they seem to run in cycles of 10 -14 days with a day without,

then up they start again. eats very little, in fact almost no food, and

we maintain his weight with Pedisure supplement, which he finds easier to take

in a bottle although he is approaching 4yo.

The ulcers are usually fairly small, and accompanied by blood spots. The

immuno has told me they are definitely not canker. They do have a white centre.

At times the inside of s cheeks are so enflamed they are thick, lumpy and

swollen. I dont know how he manages with everything else he has to cope with.

ringworm

,

I cannot offer any help with the " ringworm " . However what are the

mouth ulcers

related too? Are there frequent boughts of them? Are they almost like a

" canka " with a whitehead?

[Guest guest]

I don`t know how manages either, poor thing. I know how sore

my mouth gets when I get mouth ulcers..and thats just one at a time.

I have had very few since I left my husband...must have been the

stress. Are s sores mouth ulcers? I read somewhere that they

were caused by some difficiancy..can`t remember which but I also read

that eating liquorice prevents them....By the way what is GERD?

> Hi .

> has suffered with the mouth ulcers now for close to a year

that we are aware of. It was thought at first to either be a

reaction to one of his long term meds, or cyclic neutropenia. The

last suggestion was part of an auto immune disease, or to do with

his GERD, his specialists have yet to work out the cause, they

seem to run in cycles of 10 -14 days with a day without, then up they

start again. eats very little, in fact almost no food, and

we maintain his weight with Pedisure supplement, which he finds

easier to take in a bottle although he is approaching 4yo.

> The ulcers are usually fairly small, and accompanied by blood

spots. The immuno has told me they are definitely not canker. They

do have a white centre. At times the inside of s cheeks are so

enflamed they are thick, lumpy and swollen. I dont know how he

manages with everything else he has to cope with.

>

>

> ringworm

>

>

>

> ,

> I cannot offer any help with the " ringworm " . However

what are the

> mouth ulcers

> related too? Are there frequent boughts of them? Are they

almost like a

> " canka " with a whitehead?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don`t know how manages either, poor thing. I know how sore

my mouth gets when I get mouth ulcers..and thats just one at a time.

I have had very few since I left my husband...must have been the

stress. Are s sores mouth ulcers? I read somewhere that they

were caused by some difficiancy..can`t remember which but I also read

that eating liquorice prevents them....By the way what is GERD?

> Hi .

> has suffered with the mouth ulcers now for close to a year

that we are aware of. It was thought at first to either be a

reaction to one of his long term meds, or cyclic neutropenia. The

last suggestion was part of an auto immune disease, or to do with

his GERD, his specialists have yet to work out the cause, they

seem to run in cycles of 10 -14 days with a day without, then up they

start again. eats very little, in fact almost no food, and

we maintain his weight with Pedisure supplement, which he finds

easier to take in a bottle although he is approaching 4yo.

> The ulcers are usually fairly small, and accompanied by blood

spots. The immuno has told me they are definitely not canker. They

do have a white centre. At times the inside of s cheeks are so

enflamed they are thick, lumpy and swollen. I dont know how he

manages with everything else he has to cope with.

>

>

> ringworm

>

>

>

> ,

> I cannot offer any help with the " ringworm " . However

what are the

> mouth ulcers

> related too? Are there frequent boughts of them? Are they

almost like a

> " canka " with a whitehead?

>

>

>

>

>

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Well spotted Lorene, I had forgotten about that!! I do have Difflucan too, going out of date very soon (an old Tettenbourne Rx) Never used that, probably won;t do that as Tea Tree Oil working fine

Mandi in UK

Are you giving Nystatin oral for this or as a topical cream? As you may know, Nystatin is not systemic so an oral form would not be able to address a skin yeast issue. You would need diflucan for this.

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Sam's is probably 1cm, whole thing is no bigger than my thumbnail but as you can;t see through cyberapace thats not really helpful is it LOL

MAndi

Thanks for the info. I am not quite clear of the size of this ringworm though? My son has had little (1-2min) diameter slightly raised and slightly pink skin something (which I don't know how to call!) for the last 2 years and it seems that no Dr knows what it is. It is very discrete and not itchy and that is pb why nobody seems to be concerned by this. It almost looks like a flat watery wart. It is around his mouth, under his eyes and also on his fingers around the nails.I know it does spread, so it must be some kind of infectious agent. It does appear more red when it's hot.

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http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/content/article/7/1680_53988.htm?SRC=aolsearch & KW=ring_worm

it defaults to this page when I put ringworm in AOL search box

MAndi

In a message dated 02/02/2005 10:30:15 GMT Standard Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

which website did you get this from - it looks really informative and could save unecessary trips to the G.P!!!!

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How Do I Know If I Have It?

Your doctor will probably recognize ringworm's characteristic rash. However, he or she may also:

Look at the infection with a special ultraviolet light that can detect traces of fluorescent materials that occur in a ringworm infection Scrape an area of involved skin and look at the sample under the microscope Take a culture to find out which fungus is causing the infection in order to select the most effective antifungal medicine

What Are the Treatments?

Your doctor may prescribe an antifungal medication. These drugs work to kill fungus and prevent it from coming back. You may spread the antifungal on your skin as a medicated shampoo, powder, cream, or lotion; or you may take a pill so the medicine can spread throughout your body. Your doctor may prescribe a combination of these treatments.

Many antifungal medications, such as miconazole, are available over the counter at a lower dose and a less expensive price. Ask your doctor whether you can use one of these or whether prescription-strength medicine is necessary.

How Can I Prevent Ringworm?

Good personal hygiene helps prevent the spread of ringworm. Teach your child to practice good hygiene and generally not to share combs, brushes, or hats. Children also shouldn't share towels, clothes, or sports equipment that haven't been properly cleaned.

Ringworm also can be transmitted from an infected dog or cat, so avoid animals who look mangy or have bald spots in their coats. If you have an animal that you think may have ringworm, take it to your veterinarian for treatment. The Basics | Symptoms | Detection & Treatment © 2002 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.

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Hi Mandi,

I hope the ringworm clears up soon! Your email just prompted a couple of questions which I wondered whether you could help me out with. We have done epsom salts baths on and off with Jack but I've never really understood the reason for doing them and whether or not he is likely to benefit. Can you enlighten me on this or point me to where I can read up on it?

Also re nystatin - do you get that over here on prescription? If so, is there a particular "brand" which is better - colour, additive free etc..

Many thanks

Re: Ringworm

Hi Pamela

There is a picture of ringworm in the files at Autism Mercury - exactly what Sam has had for a while, it fades and comes back, He has two of them now.

I did a search and came up with the fact thats it fungal and your Dr might prescribe antifungal for it. On that basis I have been using a roll-on Tea Tree oil and decided to do a round of Nystatin (since a chap on A-M list reminded me I even had some LOL - and its in date!)

Looks better today (only started this yesterday) but its always more noticable after his Epsom Salts bath so I'll need to check on that later.

/files/

Its at the very tope of the files list called opspt or soemthing like that. The files are publis so you should be able to access even if you aren;t a member - but if you aren;t my advice is to join anyway!

HTHMandi down in dreary Dorset

Did you (or someone else) mention ringworm? Our son has a cluster of small bumps on his neck, which have now been there for weeks. Not fading. Could this be a skin fungal infection? Ringworm? If so, should I go and see our Doctor or what advice would you give?

[Guest guest]

Mandi,

which website did you get this from - it looks really informative and could save unecessary trips to the G.P!!!!

Ringworm

What Are the Symptoms?

Ringworm of the scalp:

Dry, brittle hair or hair loss around infected blisters Severe itching Red-ringed patch of small blisters or scaly skin

Ringworm of the body:

Red-ringed patch of small blisters or scaly skin Severe itching

Call your doctor if you have a red-ringed skin infection, severe itching of the skin or scalp, a scaly rash, or hair loss around a blister or rash. The Basics | Symptoms | Detection & Treatment © 2002 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.