Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Here is a website which lists ingredients for Selsun Blue. Maybe you can find something with these ingredients in it in Sweden. http://www.livestrong.com/article/145981-ingredients-in-selsun-blue-shampoo/ I hope some big relief is found very soon. Help! I´m soon leaving...It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know what to do and that the pest control company must take over.It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird mites (fågelkvalster).They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough looking either.)We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. ANd the small one still get some bites as well.THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it doesn´t help.The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms down a bit, but keeps going on and on.Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week or so. During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as before.I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working in another city I am planning to end it all..How do you endure?PLEASE HELP!C from Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hi cecilia, it has taken us a year and a half to get where we are now. Partially due to using some products that did not work for us. All the products i listed can be found on the internet. I would be happy to send u some things. If u feel comfortable doing it send me ur mailing address to my email address directly. I also cut my hair but just above my shoulders and i like it this way now. Im praying for u. U are not alone.From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:28 AMbird mites Subject: Re: Help! Dear !Thanks for responding.A lot of good ideas on what you have done.Thanks!The big problem is that hardly any of the products you suggest is available here in Sweden.None of the schampoos, not 20 mule borax and not diametaceous earth. Maby I can find on the internet, but I presume shipping will be very expensive?Any suggestions.Do you know andy good brand for mattress covers?We sleep on air matrasses and tent beds right now, don´t know if that helps?What did you fog with?We don´t have the Arm and hammer brand in Sweden either- do you know what it contains, if I can find anything similar?HOw long have you fought this?Warmest regardsCeciliaFrom: NATALIE M RHOADS <rhoads1230@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:54:[The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 !You´re so sweet trying to help.CFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:45:49 PMSubject: Re: Help! Here is a website which lists ingredients for Selsun Blue. Maybe you can find something with these ingredients in it in Sweden. http://www.livestrong.com/article/145981-ingredients-in-selsun-blue-shampoo/ I hope some big relief is found very soon. Help! I´m soon leaving...It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know what to do and that the pest control company must take over.It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird mites (fågelkvalster).They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough looking either.)We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. ANd the small one still get some bites as well.THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it doesn´t help.The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms down a bit, but keeps going on and on.Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week or so. During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as before.I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working in another city I am planning to end it all..How do you endure?PLEASE HELP!C from Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 You are sure welcome Cecilia! Help! I´m soon leaving...It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know what to do and that the pest control company must take over.It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird mites (fågelkvalster).They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough looking either.)We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. ANd the small one still get some bites as well.THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it doesn´t help.The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms down a bit, but keeps going on and on.Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week or so. During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as before.I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working in another city I am planning to end it all..How do you endure?PLEASE HELP!C from Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I spray 3% hydrogen peroxide directly on the environment in areas not ruined by it along with white vinegar sprayed from a different spray bottle. When I put them on my skin I never use them together. But frequently spraying the skin where I have a bite tends to keep my from getting many more bites in the area. z3 > > > > > > > > Cecelia, > > > > > > > > Your English is just fine. > > > > > > > > There are hundreds of types of birdmites according to a friend on this site. > >In one stage after a blood feed they are red from sucking blood, but so tiny you > >can hardly perceive them and smaller than a period. In the immature stage they > >are translucent and so tiny they cannot be seen. We had the black spots too, > >and the things that are like a seed from my hair. Can you get some Selsun > >Blue for your hair? I used to wash the body with it too.  We had the pest > >management people here which didn't help at all. They found nothing, because > >they are too tiny to find visually.  > > > > > > > > > > About infection to others. This is somewhat controversial--I do believe the > >mites are in the house, and if someone visited or stayed at your house they > >could get mites. But transmission from person to person is much harder > >outsider of your house. There are exceptions and some people do claim they got > >the mites from sitting across a table from an infected person.  Get rid of > >nests and stay away from birds in general for the time being. Do not touch > >nests if you have them nearby. Other animals such as mice and rats do carry > >birdmites. Any rodent nest must be gotten rid of too. These mites need a > >host or hosts, but if they are satisfied with A HOST, they will most likely not > >infest someone else. Why would they if they are getting enough blood from the > >host? This will be hard for the children, but playing outside with a friend > >and having no body contact would be okay. Harder to do with a 1 year old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 > >bites on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would > >disappear with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old > >daughter and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year > >old a test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in > >it. I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up > >all the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they > >don´t know what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > >night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > >red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > >reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > >eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > >mites (fågelkvalster). > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > >looking either.) > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > >one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > >that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > >often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > >ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > >doesn´t help. > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > >down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > >host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > >or so. > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > >hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > >before. > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > >work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > >kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > >laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to > >be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > >somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > >and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > >bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > >NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > >humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > >still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is > >nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > >imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > >can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up > >working in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > How do you endure? > > PLEASE HELP! > > C from Sweden > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hi Cecelia Do you have a translater , like google ? It might help , but your english is very good , I would of thought you spoke enbgilsh in Sweden http://www.google.com/translate_t Now the mix is for the body & the environment , the peroxide is not good to breathe so I apply it with out breathing it, wth plenty of fresh air . Thouah one poster Bessie used the peroxide in vaporizers & put one of the vapor steamers with the peroxide in it in each room, it helped her a lot . I don't like to breathe peroxide it makes me have bad pains , so if I do it , I air out the room for hours before entering. All items dipped in a bath tub with 2 tbls coconut oil will stop the bug on the item . For 6- 10 hrs. . But with borax added is leaves a residuale poison . 1 cup borax in hot water 1 gallon of hot water 2 tbls coconut oil Spray every thing.,well & reates daily as needed , I did it for years electronics put in a box & gas it or vapor it .well & repeatedly , gassing is done with tanks of gas like c02 or hydrogen. . gassing is done outside , so it won't poison people Vaporing is done in an enclosed contained with vapors , like from brake cleaner ( a type of carbon tetrachloride sold at auto parts stores ) , no pesst strips ( like a fly peststrip of poison , bleach fumes , alcohol , & many others , it cannot be done inside , it is poison . the mix is for environment & the body , http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html The mix: 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 16 oz peroxide (3%) 32 oz water. mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide http://www.fao.org/docrep/X5042E/x5042E01.htm Other ways that have been found effective in preventing and controlling infestations are as follows: 1. Sanitation. 2. Exclusion of pests. 3. Low temperature - " freeze-outs " , refrigeration, aeration. 4. High temperature - heating of mills. 5. Moisture control - grain drying. 6. Aeration - cooling, drying, elimination of temperature gradients. 7. Protectants - chemicals, inert dusts, natural compounds. 8. Residual or contact insecticides. 9. Atmospheric gases - carbon dioxide, nitrogen. 10. Gamma radiation, radio and sonic waves, microwaves, infra-red radiation. 11. Pheromones. 12. Insect growth regulators. 13. Insect pathogens. 14. Predators. 15. Insect resistant packaging. 16. Resistant varieties. An effective integrated pest management system should begin with comprehensive planning to include all aspects of the problem, followed by the application of preventive and control methods... God bless you , Bill On Thu Dec 2nd, 2010 5:57 AM EST Cecilia Borg wrote: >HI, Bill! >Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately we don´t have the arm and hammer brand in >Sweden, so I can´t get a hold of that. Am trying to find borax though. About the >mix I understood- I have dark hair, but I don´t care as long as I get rid of the >bugs. >The laundry part I´m not really sure I got (because I´m from another country and >English is not my 1st language?) >Or did you mean it to clean the floors? >To spray the ceilings: what should I spray with- borax and water or any other >mix? > >I appreciate that you give suggestions! >Cecilia > > > >________________________________ >From: Doe <doe1769@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 6:53:00 AM >Subject: Re: Help! > > >Hi Cecelia >Boron is an element when it is mined is brought to the refinery where it is >processed into varous things: >Boric acid is made from boron, its borun treated with sulfuric acid . >Borax is the lose boron that fall to the floor at they are processing it , it is >scooped up & sold as a laundry booster. Itis an oxyginater & it is a digestive >poison . >Boron is borun , so to answer your question about 20 mule team being important , >I think it is just a brand name . > >Amonia is hard on the lungs > >A good washing with soapy water will coat the bug in the soap & render it >stuck.,then rinse with water with epsom in it so the water is poisoned & a wet >vac it up , then borax 1 cup per gallon applied as an afer mop to leave a >residule poison is very effective, leave it down & add 2 tbls of oil , coconut , >or canola , it makes the bug get stuck in it . > >They live on the cieling, they are spiders. They drop on you , spray the cieling >. > >The bug is very small & hard to see , I never saw one , but I kill it & it dies >. & I have no bites . I sometime pick them back up , but I kill it again. > >A 30 min bath in 1 cup borac & 1/8 cup dawn dish soap or any soap soaks them out >of the skin, I did it 2 times per day when it was bad. > >Bleach is barley effective but borax or sodium carbonate ( arm & hammer powdered >laundry soap ) , 1 cup per gallon of water repeatledly sprayed stops a bug . >The ingredient in windex that is the real poison, is anti freeze ( ethyline >glycol ) it causes liver & kidney failure , I never come in contact with it ,. >it will kill you . > >If you soak in 2 tbls coconut oil in a bath tub or spray it on in 28 oz of water >it coats the skin & the bug can't crawl ,as easy I still have to kill them with >the mix if I pick one up : >here is the mix: >http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html > >The mix: >2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster of I would use any brand , >16 oz peroxide (3%) >32 oz water. >mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide so there is no fix or burn form >the peroxide , & the peroxide causes the borax to penetrate in to the skin & the >body , it is very effective. >Hello blonde hair .. But I have blonde hair any how > >apply the mix top of head to toe & leave on till the next shower then repeat >after showering , I did it for 19 days , it killed the bug , I thoughtI was in >heaven , still a few remained deep in the skin & surfaced 2 weeks later , then >I learned of arm & hammer powdered laundry soap 1 cup per bath , this has been >very helpful, & the end on the bug in some ways I could not effect with other >chemicals. Some things help more than others but any weapon fired at the bug is >good as long as the weapon dosnt kill my health, I need my health. > > >,The coconut oil sticking all over a bug interferes with moving thus slows >its mating & feeding . I have not had crawling for 320 days since I soaked in 1 >cup borax for 30 mins , then rinses & soaked in a tub with 2 tbls cococnut oil >for 5-20 mins ,. granted I had used 10% flowers of sulfur )from >www.americarx.com made by humco & 90 % any type of healthy hand creme with out >pertoleum in it for 1 year. I applied it on all skin for 1 week , then not >for 1 week to let my skin recover, it makes the skin super dry. I also used many >baths before this , so it was probally a conglomeration of all thases things , >but I believe it was God that stopped it, He annoint my head with oil my cup >runneth over , praise His Holy Name > > >God bless you , > >Bill > >On Wed Dec 1st, 2010 2:58 PM EST Cecilia Borg wrote: > >>HI, Jess! >>We´ve tried the glue traps- nothing there- or maby it was too tiny to see. Will > >>try the steaming water. >>Thanks for sharing! >>Cecilia >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: " helpnynow@... " <helpnynow@...> >>Bird Mites Newsgroup <bird mites > >>Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 7:38:32 PM >>Subject: Re: Help! >> >> >>Hi Cecilia, >> >>Sorry to hear about your situation. >> >>There's a way you can catch birdmites. You can use a pan with hot steaming water >> >>and leave it on the floor in the infested rooms and leave the room alone for a >>few hours very quiet with nobody disturbing it. >> >> >>After a few hours take the pan and check for anything in the water. There might > >>be very tiny things in there, cause the mites are close to microscopic. I caught >> >>one of my samples that way when I had critters. >> >>You could also try sticky glue traps and leave them around your bed close to the >> >>feet, where the mites would climb onto your bed. >> >> >>I used to have some weird critters too a while ago, and they all died when I >>spread boric acid all over the infested rooms. You could try that, just be >>careful to do it when the kids aren't around. >> >>Best of luck, >> >>Jess >> >>Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel >>________________________________ >> >>From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> >>Sender: bird mites >>Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 06:54:28 -0800 (PST) >><bird mites > >>Replybird mites >>Subject: Help! >> >>I´m soon leaving... >>It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > >>on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear >>with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter >>and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a >>test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. > >>I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. >> >>We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all >>the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t >> >>know what to do and that the pest control company must take over. >>It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at >>night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not >>as red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten >>allergic reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough >>daytime + eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. >>The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird >>mites (fågelkvalster). >>They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough >>looking either.) >>We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > >>one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby >>that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree >>often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. >> >>ANd the small one still get some bites as well. >>THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it >>doesn´t help. >>The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms >>down a bit, but keeps going on and on. >>Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > >>host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a >>week or so. >> >>During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > >>hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as >>before. >>I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from >> >>work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 >> >>kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the >> >>laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to >>be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away >>somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? >>I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > >>and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > >>bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > >>NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect >>humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > >>still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. >>I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is >>nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am >> >>imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... >>I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > >>can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up >>working in another city I am planning to end it all.. >>How do you endure? >>PLEASE HELP! >>C from Sweden >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Cecilia, Oh yes, I forgot. Just as Marie said, start taking MSM internally, as much as you can tolerate. Another idea is to get powdered MSM and add to shampoo, but flower of sulfur works well too. MSM will not burn--but sometimes flower of sulfur will burn if put too close to the eyes or sensitive parts of the body. I'd go with marie's suggestions first as she knows far more than I do about this whole mess. L. Help!> > > > > > I´m soon leaving...> > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over.> > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.> > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > mites (fågelkvalster).> > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > looking either.)> > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well.> > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > doesn´t help.> > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on.> > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > or so. > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > before.> > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?> > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.> > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...> > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > in another city I am planning to end it all..> > How do you endure?> > PLEASE HELP!> > C from Sweden> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Cee Cee, What have you tried thus far? Cecilia, I would sure try this... some people here have used MMS internally successfully (Marie for one) and others have had a bad reaction. I did not have a bad reaction, although it tastes terrible. I think it helps and kills a lot of harmful things internally if you can tolerate it. There is much debate about how toxic it is. Another thing you would have to send away for but inexpensive. Help!> > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving...> > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over.> > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.> > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > mites (fågelkvalster).> > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > looking either.)> > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well.> > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > doesn´t help.> > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on.> > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > or so. > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > before.> > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?> > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.> > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...> > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > in another city I am planning to end it all..> > > How do you endure?> > > PLEASE HELP!> > > C from Sweden> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 1% will likely be very effective. Many folks dilute the 3% when used on the body. z3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Cecelia, > > > > > > > > > > > > Your English is just fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are hundreds of types of birdmites according to a friend on this > >site. > > > > >In one stage after a blood feed they are red from sucking blood, but so tiny > >you > > > > >can hardly perceive them and smaller than a period. In the immature stage > >they > > > > >are translucent and so tiny they cannot be seen. We had the black spots > >too, > > > > >and the things that are like a seed from my hair. Can you get some Selsun > > > > >Blue for your hair? I used to wash the body with it too.  We had the > >pest > > > > >management people here which didn't help at all. They found nothing, > >because > > > > >they are too tiny to find visually.  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About infection to others. This is somewhat controversial--I do believe > >the > > > > >mites are in the house, and if someone visited or stayed at your house they > > >could get mites. But transmission from person to person is much harder > > >outsider of your house. There are exceptions and some people do claim they > >got > > > > >the mites from sitting across a table from an infected person.  Get rid of > > >nests and stay away from birds in general for the time being. Do not touch > > > >nests if you have them nearby. Other animals such as mice and rats do carry > > > > >birdmites. Any rodent nest must be gotten rid of too. These mites need a > > > > >host or hosts, but if they are satisfied with A HOST, they will most likely > >not > > > > >infest someone else. Why would they if they are getting enough blood from > >the > > > > >host? This will be hard for the children, but playing outside with a friend > > > > >and having no body contact would be okay. Harder to do with a 1 year old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 > > > >bites on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would > > >disappear with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old > > > >daughter and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year > > > > >old a test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias > >in > > > > >it. I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites > >coming up > > > > >all the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says > >they > > > > >don´t know what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly > >at > > > > >night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not > >as > > > > >red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten > >allergic > > > > >reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > >eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vÃÆ'¤gglÃÆ'¶ss) and probably > >bird > > > > >mites (fÃÆ'Â¥gelkvalster). > > > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > > >looking either.) > > > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the > >little > > > > >one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > >that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that > >tree > > > > >often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than > >ever. > > > > >ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > > >doesn´t help. > > > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it > >calms > > > > >down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as > >their > > > > >host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a > >week > > > > >or so. > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, > >mostly > > > > >hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > >before. > > > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home > >from > > > > >work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of > >2 > > > > >kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all > >the > > > > >laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has > >to > > > > >be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m > >away > > > > >somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right > >now? > > > > > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all > >books > > > > >and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > > >bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > > >NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > >humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > > >still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is > > >nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I > >am > > > > >imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. > >I > > > > >can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up > > > > >working in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > > > How do you endure? > > > PLEASE HELP! > > > C from Sweden > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Cecilia, how are u doing? My thoughts and prayers are with you.From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:28 AMbird mites Subject: Re: Help! Dear !Thanks for responding.A lot of good ideas on what you have done.Thanks!The big problem is that hardly any of the products you suggest is available here in Sweden.None of the schampoos, not 20 mule borax and not diametaceous earth. Maby I can find on the internet, but I presume shipping will be very expensive?Any suggestions.Do you know andy good brand for mattress covers?We sleep on air matrasses and tent beds right now, don´t know if that helps?What did you fog with?We don´t have the Arm and hammer brand in Sweden either- do you know what it contains, if I can find anything similar?HOw long have you fought this?Warmest regardsCeciliaFrom: NATALIE M RHOADS <rhoads1230@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:54:[The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 If it was me I would move. You're lucky you're single. My husband refuses to move. It's not worth your life or getting suicidal over. Rent it out, or do whatever you need to, even go into foreclosure if it saves your life. Yes some mites could follow to your new place but there will be less. Just think about it Cecilia. Right now, becasue you didn't know what you were dealing with, they have had time to take over your entire home. They are in the walls, the insulation, the roof, the subfloor, I mean, they are everywhere! When you move with your new knowledge you've gained here you can prevent them from infesting your entire home. If you can't sell or rent the house maybe stay with a relative or use some savings to stay at a motel, or take a job that involves travel. My point is you're going to have to do whatever necessary to avoid the suicidal thoughts for the sake of your child, if nothing else. Personally I can't think of a better solution than leaving the infestation. Kim > > > > Dear Rose! > > Thanks for those words. I´m from Sweden so my english might not be the very > > best. > > I´m not sure we have birdmites, but what else could it be? > > Can anyone help with how to find the mites? We DO have the bites the whole > > family, so we know they are there, but the Pest control frim has not found any > > > insect/mite, neither have we. But black spots in beds, at rare occasions small > > > blood drops on sheets and also some strange round, small things like sesame a > > > littel here and there (might have nothing with the cause, but just for > info). > > We need " proof " to have the insurance company pay for more pest control service > > > > (if that at all helps) Any suggestions? > > It´s getting really rough here and I don´t know if I can handle any more. > > DO you know if you can give this to others by for example send your kid to > > school? > > > > Thanks! > > Cecilia > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: rose <auberginedream777@> > > bird mites > > Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:19:02 PM > > Subject: Re: Help! > > > >  > > stay on this site Cecilia and you will get help  it pushes everyone to a > > difficult point but You can get better...I am not the birdmite expert because I > > > > have another bug  but many people here are   don't bother listening to > > squabbles here there have been a few   but You area newcomer and  We want > >to > > > > help You...We know this can be hellish but people do get better....hang in > >there > > > > the forces are coming  Rose > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@> > > bird mites > > Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 6:54:28 AM > > Subject: Help! > > > >  > > I´m soon leaving... > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 > >bites > > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear > >with > > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test > >showed > > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up > >all the > > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t > >know > > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not > >as > > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > mites (fågelkvalster). > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > looking either.) > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > doesn´t help. > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a > >week > > > > or so. > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > before. > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to > >be > > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is > >nothing > > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up > >working > > > > in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > How do you endure? > > PLEASE HELP! > > C from Sweden > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hi This is a msds for ( Material safety data sheet for arm & hammer powdered laundry soap (These are the ingredients I think are the most effective. Sodium Carbonate 70-85% 497-19-8 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) 3 mg/m3 resp. Enzyme Preparation < 1% 9014-01-1 0.00395 mg/m3 (calculated) (as 100% pure protease) 0.00006 mg/m3 (ACGIH) .... ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent clean burst ingredients Have A Question? Call Us Toll Free! 1-800-998-3295 ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent clean burst ingredients skf file topix SKF Arm & Hammer laundry detergent, soaked 2 times and did the house in it ..2. burn sulfer 8/21/09 Note: Discussion topic: Scabies/Eggs lifespan? and a question about premethrin... http://www.ahprokleen.com/MSDS/MSDS-056-Laundry%20Detergent%20powder.pdf MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET MSDS NUMBER: MSDS-056 ISSUE DATE: 03/27/06 PAGE 1 OF 5 CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS: 469 North on Street Princeton, New Jersey 08543-5297 Phone (609) 683-5900 CHURCH & DWIGHT CO., INC. CONSUMER PRODUCTS SPECIALTY PRODUCTS 1. PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION Emergency Phone: 1-609-683-5900 (USA) ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent Medical Emergency Phone: (All Forms: Phosphate, Non-phosphate, Fragrance-free, 1-888-234-1828 with Color Safe Bleach, and Fabric Softener) Information Phone: 1-416-444-5241 (Canada) 2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS Chemical Ingredient (% by Wt) CAS Number Exposure Limits (TLV-TWA) Alcohol Ethoxysulfate Salt 3-10% 68585-34-2 Not Established Ethoxylated Alcohol 1-5% 68131-39-5 Not Established Sodium Percarbonate 1-5% 15630-89-4 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) (bleach formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp. Sodium Carbonate 70-85% 497-19-8 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) 3 mg/m3 resp. Enzyme Preparation < 1% 9014-01-1 0.00395 mg/m3 (calculated) (as 100% pure protease) 0.00006 mg/m3 (ACGIH) Bentonite Clay 2-6% Mixture 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) (fabric softener formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp. [bentonite clay may contain up to 7% naturally occurring crystalline silica] Workplace Considerations: Contains no other hazardous ingredients at 1% or more (0.1% for carcinogens) as defined by 29 CFR 1910 or the Hazardous Products Act. (PNOC = Particles Not Otherwise Classified) These are posts from a forum called topix , this is where I ( me Bill ) learned of the arm & hammer powdered laundry soap: 3. i was told that back in the old days people would burn sulfer and let their houses fill up with the smoke and it would kill bed bugs and chicken /bird mites if they got inside their houses and that it always worked .just wondering how you would make a contraption to burn that stuff . just wonder where you would buy powdered sulfer . i have had several old folk tell me this story and they always say it took care of it no matter how bad the bugs were . 4. http://bamboosourcery.com/cat_frame.cfm?row=13 Create an insecticidal soap made with Arm & Hammer laundry detergent (powder), using 1 tablespoon per 1 gal water in a sprayer. Apply no more than once every two weeks. It turns leaves somewhat yellow, but is our treatment of choice because of its high effectiveness and low toxicity to the environment. skf Glasgow, KY Reply |Report Abuse |Judge it! |#2 Saturday Aug 8 darlin .going to the dr is a waste of time ,energy and money . exterminators are costly and also dont work . i just take one day at a time and i never do the same routine unless it gives me relief / although im really careful now how toxic something can be before i use it . you can get really sick on some things . how long have you had them is it you ,or does your whole family have them .i just recently took a soak bath in a 1/2 cup of armor hammer powdered laundry soap helped alot today havnt felt them except once on my finger . i always use a soft scrub brush when i take a bath .it will get alot the eggs out of your skin ..WELCOME ABOARD...I WILL TALK TO YOU WHENEVER YOU NEED ME TO ..HOPE IT GOES AWAY FOR YOU SOON . more at link: http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TKN7C65AKILQNGL46 CHECK THIS OUT: Silver ? 3. 3333333333333333333333333 SKF Glasgow, KY Reply |Report Abuse |Judge it! |#13 Tuesday Aug 11 Paranoid-Compulsive wrote: Skf, hey havent heard from you much today. I wnt to the doctor today and he took a look at me and said i was prob in the clear. Today on my back i noticed a diff bump but it since wnt away. He gave me a script of Eurax 10% he says its better then the perm. Has anyone used Eurax cream 10% and if so how did it do for you?? Curious:))My back END OF PASTED POSTS FROM TOPIX God bless you , Bill ps Natilie would you tell Cecelia I posted this for her question on arm & hammer powdered laundry soap ingredients ... On Sat Dec 4th, 2010 12:44 AM EST Rhoads wrote: >Cecilia, how are u doing? My thoughts and prayers are with you. > > Re: Help! > > >Dear ! >Thanks for responding. >A lot of good ideas on what you have done. >Thanks! >The big problem is that hardly any of the products you suggest is available here in Sweden. >None of the schampoos, not 20 mule borax and not diametaceous earth. Maby I can find on the internet, but I presume shipping will be very expensive? >Any suggestions. >Do you know andy good brand for mattress covers? >We sleep on air matrasses and tent beds right now, don´t know if that helps? >What did you fog with? >We don´t have the Arm and hammer brand in Sweden either- do you know what it contains, if I can find anything similar? >HOw long have you fought this? > >Warmest regards >Cecilia >From: NATALIE M RHOADS <rhoads1230@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:54: > >[The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Thanks!CeciliaFrom: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 11:28:37 AMSubject: RE: Help! Hi This is a msds for ( Material safety data sheet for arm & hammer powdered laundry soap (These are the ingredients I think are the most effective. Sodium Carbonate 70-85% 497-19-8 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) 3 mg/m3 resp. Enzyme Preparation < 1% 9014-01-1 0.00395 mg/m3 (calculated) (as 100% pure protease) 0.00006 mg/m3 (ACGIH) .... ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent clean burst ingredients Have A Question? Call Us Toll Free! 1-800-998-3295 ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent clean burst ingredients skf file topix SKF Arm & Hammer laundry detergent, soaked 2 times and did the house in it .2. burn sulfer 8/21/09 Note: Discussion topic: Scabies/Eggs lifespan? and a question about premethrin... http://www.ahprokleen.com/MSDS/MSDS-056-Laundry%20Detergent%20powder.pdf MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET MSDS NUMBER: MSDS-056 ISSUE DATE: 03/27/06 PAGE 1 OF 5 CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS: 469 North on Street Princeton, New Jersey 08543-5297 Phone (609) 683-5900 CHURCH & DWIGHT CO., INC. CONSUMER PRODUCTS SPECIALTY PRODUCTS 1. PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION Emergency Phone: 1-609-683-5900 (USA) ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent Medical Emergency Phone: (All Forms: Phosphate, Non-phosphate, Fragrance-free, 1-888-234-1828 with Color Safe Bleach, and Fabric Softener) Information Phone: 1-416-444-5241 (Canada) 2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS Chemical Ingredient (% by Wt) CAS Number Exposure Limits (TLV-TWA) Alcohol Ethoxysulfate Salt 3-10% 68585-34-2 Not Established Ethoxylated Alcohol 1-5% 68131-39-5 Not Established Sodium Percarbonate 1-5% 15630-89-4 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) (bleach formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp. Sodium Carbonate 70-85% 497-19-8 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) 3 mg/m3 resp. Enzyme Preparation < 1% 9014-01-1 0.00395 mg/m3 (calculated) (as 100% pure protease) 0.00006 mg/m3 (ACGIH) Bentonite Clay 2-6% Mixture 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC) (fabric softener formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp. [bentonite clay may contain up to 7% naturally occurring crystalline silica] Workplace Considerations: Contains no other hazardous ingredients at 1% or more (0.1% for carcinogens) as defined by 29 CFR 1910 or the Hazardous Products Act. (PNOC = Particles Not Otherwise Classified) These are posts from a forum called topix , this is where I ( me Bill ) learned of the arm & hammer powdered laundry soap: 3. i was told that back in the old days people would burn sulfer and let their houses fill up with the smoke and it would kill bed bugs and chicken /bird mites if they got inside their houses and that it always worked .just wondering how you would make a contraption to burn that stuff . just wonder where you would buy powdered sulfer . i have had several old folk tell me this story and they always say it took care of it no matter how bad the bugs were . 4. http://bamboosourcery.com/cat_frame.cfm?row=13 Create an insecticidal soap made with Arm & Hammer laundry detergent (powder), using 1 tablespoon per 1 gal water in a sprayer. Apply no more than once every two weeks. It turns leaves somewhat yellow, but is our treatment of choice because of its high effectiveness and low toxicity to the environment. skf Glasgow, KY Reply |Report Abuse |Judge it! |#2 Saturday Aug 8 darlin .going to the dr is a waste of time ,energy and money . exterminators are costly and also dont work . i just take one day at a time and i never do the same routine unless it gives me relief / although im really careful now how toxic something can be before i use it . you can get really sick on some things . how long have you had them is it you ,or does your whole family have them .i just recently took a soak bath in a 1/2 cup of armor hammer powdered laundry soap helped alot today havnt felt them except once on my finger . i always use a soft scrub brush when i take a bath .it will get alot the eggs out of your skin ..WELCOME ABOARD...I WILL TALK TO YOU WHENEVER YOU NEED ME TO .HOPE IT GOES AWAY FOR YOU SOON . more at link: http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TKN7C65AKILQNGL46 CHECK THIS OUT: Silver ? 3. 3333333333333333333333333 SKF Glasgow, KY Reply |Report Abuse |Judge it! |#13 Tuesday Aug 11 Paranoid-Compulsive wrote: Skf, hey havent heard from you much today. I wnt to the doctor today and he took a look at me and said i was prob in the clear. Today on my back i noticed a diff bump but it since wnt away. He gave me a script of Eurax 10% he says its better then the perm. Has anyone used Eurax cream 10% and if so how did it do for you?? Curious:))My back END OF PASTED POSTS FROM TOPIX God bless you , Bill ps Natilie would you tell Cecelia I posted this for her question on arm & hammer powdered laundry soap ingredients ... On Sat Dec 4th, 2010 12:44 AM EST Rhoads wrote: >Cecilia, how are u doing? My thoughts and prayers are with you. > > Re: Help! > > >Dear ! >Thanks for responding. >A lot of good ideas on what you have done. >Thanks! >The big problem is that hardly any of the products you suggest is available here in Sweden. >None of the schampoos, not 20 mule borax and not diametaceous earth. Maby I can find on the internet, but I presume shipping will be very expensive? >Any suggestions. >Do you know andy good brand for mattress covers? >We sleep on air matrasses and tent beds right now, don´t know if that helps? >What did you fog with? >We don´t have the Arm and hammer brand in Sweden either- do you know what it contains, if I can find anything similar? >HOw long have you fought this? > >Warmest regards >Cecilia >From: NATALIE M RHOADS <rhoads1230@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:54: > >[The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 NO good, thanks for caring. I did arrive home after my workning weekend away, but I brought the insects (or whatever they are) with me cause I got bitten even at the hotel..Warm regardsCeciliaFrom: Rhoads <rhoads1230@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 6:44:00 AMSubject: RE: Help! Cecilia, how are u doing? My thoughts and prayers are with you.From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:28 AMbird mites Subject: Re: Help! Dear !Thanks for responding.A lot of good ideas on what you have done.Thanks!The big problem is that hardly any of the products you suggest is available here in Sweden.None of the schampoos, not 20 mule borax and not diametaceous earth. Maby I can find on the internet, but I presume shipping will be very expensive?Any suggestions.Do you know andy good brand for mattress covers?We sleep on air matrasses and tent beds right now, don´t know if that helps?What did you fog with?We don´t have the Arm and hammer brand in Sweden either- do you know what it contains, if I can find anything similar?HOw long have you fought this?Warmest regardsCeciliaFrom: NATALIE M RHOADS <rhoads1230@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:54:[The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Good!I´ll tryCeciliaFrom: Zoe <zoe_z3@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 2:35:06 AMSubject: Re: Help! 1% will likely be very effective. Many folks dilute the 3% when used on the body. z3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Cecelia, > > > > > > > > > > > > Your English is just fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are hundreds of types of birdmites according to a friend on this > >site. > > > > >In one stage after a blood feed they are red from sucking blood, but so tiny > >you > > > > >can hardly perceive them and smaller than a period. In the immature stage > >they > > > > >are translucent and so tiny they cannot be seen. We had the black spots > >too, > > > > >and the things that are like a seed from my hair. Can you get some Selsun > > > > >Blue for your hair? I used to wash the body with it too.  We had the > >pest > > > > >management people here which didn't help at all. They found nothing, > >because > > > > >they are too tiny to find visually.  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About infection to others. This is somewhat controversial--I do believe > >the > > > > >mites are in the house, and if someone visited or stayed at your house they > > >could get mites. But transmission from person to person is much harder > > >outsider of your house. There are exceptions and some people do claim they > >got > > > > >the mites from sitting across a table from an infected person.  Get rid of > > >nests and stay away from birds in general for the time being. Do not touch > > > >nests if you have them nearby. Other animals such as mice and rats do carry > > > > >birdmites. Any rodent nest must be gotten rid of too. These mites need a > > > > >host or hosts, but if they are satisfied with A HOST, they will most likely > >not > > > > >infest someone else. Why would they if they are getting enough blood from > >the > > > > >host? This will be hard for the children, but playing outside with a friend > > > > >and having no body contact would be okay. Harder to do with a 1 year old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 > > > >bites on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would > > >disappear with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old > > > >daughter and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year > > > > >old a test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias > >in > > > > >it. I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites > >coming up > > > > >all the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says > >they > > > > >don´t know what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly > >at > > > > >night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not > >as > > > > >red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten > >allergic > > > > >reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > >eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vÃÆ'¤gglÃÆ'¶ss) and probably > >bird > > > > >mites (fÃÆ'Â¥gelkvalster). > > > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > > >looking either.) > > > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the > >little > > > > >one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > >that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that > >tree > > > > >often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than > >ever. > > > > >ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > > >doesn´t help. > > > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it > >calms > > > > >down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as > >their > > > > >host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a > >week > > > > >or so. > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, > >mostly > > > > >hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > >before. > > > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home > >from > > > > >work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of > >2 > > > > >kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all > >the > > > > >laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has > >to > > > > >be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m > >away > > > > >somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right > >now? > > > > > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all > >books > > > > >and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > > >bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > > >NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > >humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > > >still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is > > >nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I > >am > > > > >imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. > >I > > > > >can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up > > > > >working in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > > > How do you endure? > > > PLEASE HELP! > > > C from Sweden > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 LInda!You think eating MMS would help? I´ll do anything. Did it help you?I did try head and shoulders schampo (blue) but ound epsom salt giving btter relief. BUt things still there soon after (and I have a lot of the things in my clothes) What kind of steam press do you have that helped. How do you do with the clothes there?I find you very helpful and kind.CeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 10:31:18 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help! Cee Cee, What have you tried thus far? Cecilia, I would sure try this... some people here have used MMS internally successfully (Marie for one) and others have had a bad reaction. I did not have a bad reaction, although it tastes terrible. I think it helps and kills a lot of harmful things internally if you can tolerate it. There is much debate about how toxic it is. Another thing you would have to send away for but inexpensive. Help!> > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving...> > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over.> > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.> > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > mites (fÃ¥gelkvalster).> > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > looking either.)> > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well.> > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > doesn´t help.> > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on.> > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > or so. > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > before.> > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?> > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.> > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...> > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > in another city I am planning to end it all..> > > How do you endure?> > > PLEASE HELP!> > > C from Sweden> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 HI!Unfortunately I don´t know anyone in the states that can mail it...I´ll see if they will ship?Thanks for caring!CeciliaFrom: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 7:25:23 PMSubject: Re: Help! C If you know someone from the states that can mail this to you this is the best site for MMS, in my opinion. http://www.keavyscorner.com/ > > > > > > > > ! > > > > You´re so sweet trying to help. > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: "Goldstein@" <Goldstein@> > > > > bird mites > > > > Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:45:49 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a website which lists ingredients for Selsun Blue. Maybe you can find > > > > something with these ingredients in it in Sweden. > > > > > > > > http://www.livestrong.com/article/145981-ingredients-in-selsun-blue-shampoo/ > > > > > > > > I hope some big relief is found very soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > > mites (fÃ¥gelkvalster). > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > > looking either.) > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > > doesn´t help. > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > > or so. > > > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > > before. > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > > in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > How do you endure? > > > > PLEASE HELP! > > > > C from Sweden > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Cecilia, All issues of contamination with clothing I believe are resolved. We bought a Singer clothes press. They must carry them in Europe too; maybe not a Singer, but another brand. After we started using the press all our clothing issues were resolved. That at least put our minds to rest and can use less detergents, and various things like Borax in the wash. Can use press for blankets, sheets, (takes a while to do) and so many other things. Would be great for children's clothing. AND FAST! Can do an entire large garment in less than a minute. Here's the one I have: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=singer+clothing+press & rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox & oe=UTF-8 & rlz=1I7SKPT_en & um=1 & ie=UTF-8 & cid=16884833671863007195 & ei=N2_8TP7RGZOosAOn68n3DQ & sa=X & oi=product_catalog_result & ct=result & resnum=1 & ved=0CCYQ8wIwAA# If Epson Salts are working for you and available, keep at it! I used to let myself be crusty all day from Epson salts when I didn't have to go anywhere. Help!> > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving...> > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over.> > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.> > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > mites (fågelkvalster).> > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > looking either.)> > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well.> > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > doesn´t help.> > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on.> > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > or so. > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > before.> > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?> > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.> > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...> > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > in another city I am planning to end it all..> > > How do you endure?> > > PLEASE HELP!> > > C from Sweden> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Thanks Cecelia! I find you very kind as well. Do you have a bathtub for the children? Help!> > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving...> > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over.> > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me.> > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > mites (fågelkvalster).> > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > looking either.)> > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well.> > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > doesn´t help.> > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on.> > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > or so. > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > before.> > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now?> > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings.> > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe...> > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > in another city I am planning to end it all..> > > How do you endure?> > > PLEASE HELP!> > > C from Sweden> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 , Thanks for adding the link to your steam press recommendation. I just ordered it....never have I been so happy to get an iron in my life. My husband doesn't know this yet but it's going to be his Christmas present to me. I ordered the stand as you recommended as well. I am so tired of finding these things cocooned up in our clothing and itching like crazy 5 mns after putting something freshly washed on. Let's hope this helps. Thanks for the tip! SBGirl > > > > > > > > ! > > > > You´re so sweet trying to help. > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: " Goldstein@ " <Goldstein@> > > > > bird mites > > > > Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:45:49 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a website which lists ingredients for Selsun Blue. Maybe you can find > > > > something with these ingredients in it in Sweden. > > > > > > > > http://www.livestrong.com/article/145981-ingredients-in-selsun-blue-shampoo/ > > > > > > > > I hope some big relief is found very soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > > mites (fågelkvalster). > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > > looking either.) > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > > doesn´t help. > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > > or so. > > > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > > before. > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > > in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > How do you endure? > > > > PLEASE HELP! > > > > C from Sweden > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Dear SBgirl! WOW, That's a huge deal. You won't be sorry for getting it, I assure you. I know it is expensive--I would have arranged it the same way you did, (ha!), as a present - but I tell you, it has been worth its weight in gold here. At least the clothing is safe and you will notice that pretty quickly. I use mine on the hottest setting I can and steam the heck out of everything. Bought light weight cotton utility towels for showering and even do those as well. No more paper towels needed to dry after showers--even though maybe the GMO cotton is an issue, I don't know. Congratulations for taking a huge step! Please let me know how you like it. Find a convenient place to set it up and start steaming away. I used to put clothing in zip lock bags after they were pressed. This is 10 times faster than ironing and not near as exhausting. I used to get bit all the time from waistbands because these mites hide in layers of cotton/clothing, but after using the press, no more bites from clothing, ever. If you buy any new clothing, press it before you wear it. If stores have these mites too it avoids bringing them in the house again. I feel so happy for you SBgirl! And Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to you. Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > > mites (fågelkvalster). > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > > looking either.) > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > > doesn´t help. > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > > or so. > > > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > > before. > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > > in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > How do you endure? > > > > PLEASE HELP! > > > > C from Sweden > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 think We should do at least 2 secret santa's this year for our members that are suffering bites just some kinda care package...From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 2:30:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help! Dear SBgirl! WOW, That's a huge deal. You won't be sorry for getting it, I assure you. I know it is expensive--I would have arranged it the same way you did, (ha!), as a present - but I tell you, it has been worth its weight in gold here. At least the clothing is safe and you will notice that pretty quickly. I use mine on the hottest setting I can and steam the heck out of everything. Bought light weight cotton utility towels for showering and even do those as well. No more paper towels needed to dry after showers--even though maybe the GMO cotton is an issue, I don't know. Congratulations for taking a huge step! Please let me know how you like it. Find a convenient place to set it up and start steaming away. I used to put clothing in zip lock bags after they were pressed. This is 10 times faster than ironing and not near as exhausting. I used to get bit all the time from waistbands because these mites hide in layers of cotton/clothing, but after using the press, no more bites from clothing, ever. If you buy any new clothing, press it before you wear it. If stores have these mites too it avoids bringing them in the house again. I feel so happy for you SBgirl! And Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to you. Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 bites > > > > on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would disappear with > > > > time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old daughter and me > > > > and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year old a test showed > > > > the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in it. I also had > > > > klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up all the > > > > time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they don´t know > > > > what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > > > night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > > > red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > > > reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > > > eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > > > mites (fågelkvalster). > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > > > looking either.) > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > > > one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > > > that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > > > often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > > > ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > > > doesn´t help. > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > > > down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > > > host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > > > or so. > > > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > > > hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > > > before. > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > > > work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > > > kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > > > laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to be > > > > washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > > > somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > > > and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > > > bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > > > NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > > > humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > > > still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is nothing > > > > wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > > > imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > > > can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up working > > > > in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > How do you endure? > > > > PLEASE HELP! > > > > C from Sweden > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Have you tried mixing them together, and then spraying? D. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cecelia, > > > > > > > > > > > > Your English is just fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are hundreds of types of birdmites according to a friend on this site. > > >In one stage after a blood feed they are red from sucking blood, but so tiny you > > >can hardly perceive them and smaller than a period. In the immature stage they > > >are translucent and so tiny they cannot be seen. We had the black spots too, > > >and the things that are like a seed from my hair. Can you get some Selsun > > >Blue for your hair? I used to wash the body with it too.  We had the pest > > >management people here which didn't help at all. They found nothing, because > > >they are too tiny to find visually.  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About infection to others. This is somewhat controversial--I do believe the > > >mites are in the house, and if someone visited or stayed at your house they > > >could get mites. But transmission from person to person is much harder > > >outsider of your house. There are exceptions and some people do claim they got > > >the mites from sitting across a table from an infected person.  Get rid of > > >nests and stay away from birds in general for the time being. Do not touch > > >nests if you have them nearby. Other animals such as mice and rats do carry > > >birdmites. Any rodent nest must be gotten rid of too. These mites need a > > >host or hosts, but if they are satisfied with A HOST, they will most likely not > > >infest someone else. Why would they if they are getting enough blood from the > > >host? This will be hard for the children, but playing outside with a friend > > >and having no body contact would be okay. Harder to do with a 1 year old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help! > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I´m soon leaving... > > > It started this summer when our then 10 months old daughter had over 100 > > >bites on her body, and the skin clinic thought it was bites, that would > > >disappear with time. They did, but more bites came and also on our 7 year old > > >daughter and me and some few on my husband. In some of the bites of the 7-year > > >old a test showed the liquid of reaction of the bite had klebsiella bacterias in > > >it. I also had klebsiella bacteria when they did a nasopharynx test. > > > > > > We thought the bites etc would go away. It hasn´t - more bites coming up > > >all the time (3-5 bites per day on three of us) and the skin clinic says they > > >don´t know what to do and that the pest control company must take over. > > > > > > It has become a nightmare. They now crawl on me and the 7 year old mostly at > > >night and bite a lot. Our reactions on the bites are smaller and smaller (not as > > >red as before) but they wake us up every night and we have also gotten allergic > > >reactions with swollen noses (inside) nighttime and slight cough daytime + > > >eczema in the face of the 1 year old and me. > > > > > > The sanitizing firm has said it is NOT bed bugs (vägglöss) and probably bird > > >mites (fågelkvalster). > > > > > > They have not found the insects though. (But they have not been that thorough > > >looking either.) > > > > > > We took down a birds nest that we found at our carport, where under the little > > >one has been sleeping in her pram- we take the pram indoors as well- so maby > > >that´s where it comes from? The small girl has been sleeping under that tree > > >often before. We took it down 6 weeks ago, but our problem is bigger than ever. > > >ANd the small one still get some bites as well. > > > > > > THe pest control firm has sprayed with K-othrin 3 times in the house but it > > >doesn´t help. > > > > > > The insects get really bothersome just when they have sprayed, then it calms > > >down a bit, but keeps going on and on. > > > > > > Last 7 weeks everything has gotten much worse. They seem to choose me as their > > >host, even if they bite the children as well. My husband only gets 1 bite a week > > >or so. > > > > > > During this time they have waken me up every night crawling EVERYWHERE, mostly > > >hair, face, nose, groin, legs, you name it. They also bite but not as much as > > >before. > > > > > > I take sleeping pills, but they still wake me up. My husband has been home from > > >work, to help, but has to start workning again. I am supposed to take care of 2 > > >kids 1 year old and 7 year old, clean the house 155 square metres... Do all the > > >laundry (you know it´s 8 machines a day for all of us cause everything has to > > >be washed. THey also bite me and crawl on me now at daytime and when I´m away > > >somewhere else. Last 2 days less, because it´s 10 celsius below 0 right now? > > > > > > I´m almost giving up, cause we have thrown all beds, have the couch, all books > > >and most clothes in a rented freezing container, and now I have found out that > > >bird mites NEVER die of cold. As with all of you doctors frown their noses and > > >NOOne here in Sweden knows anything about bird mites and that they can affect > > >humans. The specialists at a skin clinic + endomologist (are they called that) > > >still cays that bird mites can not reproduce or live on human beeings. > > > > > > I´m feeling sick, but because my blood values are good they say there is > > >nothing wrong with me and guess what; sent me to a psychiatrist, that waid I am > > >imagining. We have pictures of the bites, still they don´t believe... > > > > > > I have a good job, a firm of my own as well and used to be a healthy person. I > > >can´t manage anymore after 6 months of this and next weekend when I´m up > > >working in another city I am planning to end it all.. > > > > > > How do you endure? > > > PLEASE HELP! > > > C from Sweden > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 I have heard, here, of others getting scoped soon after a myotomy to check things out. Dr. Richter suggested doing it periodically to keep an eye out for problems. As to the PPI's, it is standard for us to be on them after a myotomy. The purpose of the fundoplication is to protect us from reflux, but that's not perfect. Richter told me to stay on prilosec and he derided famotadine. There is pretty clear support in the literature for taking the PPI's after the myotomy and anyone who says otherwise is well outside the mainstream. Yes, we still have achalasia, in the sense of degraded peristalsis, but our LES's have been cut and, therefore, are no longer too tight for things to pass through. Dan Sent from Smrtphone That Lacks Spellchecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 No. Where do you live in Miss? We see a doctor in Memphis that is great and even though it had been two years since surgery he said there was no need to scope. In a message dated 9/15/2011 1:00:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lauramccarty77@... writes: I flew to Mayo Clinic in Minnesota back in May and was diagnosed with vigorous achalasia...had the HM and fundo in July there, too. Now, I'm back in MS trying to find a GI doctor competent in treating achalasia. Just got in with a doctor today to help with pain (spasm) management.... He starts talking about scoping me again next month to get duodenum and esophageal biopsies to look for celiac disease and see if I have any reflux damage after the surgery. The thing is...do I really need to be scoped again?? At Mayo Clinic, they told me I did NOT need to be on a PPI because what I have (achalasia) is the OPPOSITE of reflux because it makes it near impossible to have reflux. I'm just feeling like this may be unnecessary. The doctor here told me that he doesn't want me to get reflux-induced strictures on top of what I've already got going on. Did anyone else get scoped 3 or so months after surgery? I'm wondering if this guy knows what he's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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