thyroid cancer patient concerned about risk of iodine-related TSH spike

[Guest guest]

Dear Moderators,

Happy 2012! I am on the Iodine Protocol and a strict diet to treat papillary

thyroid cancer. (I have not had surgery or any other treatment). I have never

had a thyroid problem or symptoms, so I am NOT on any kind of hormone meds (NOT

taking Synthroid or Armour or Naturethroid)

I have a huge concern, given my particular situation (thyroid cancer) about the

spike (increase) in TSH level that is caused by taking iodine. Increasing TSH

by taking iodine is exactly the opposite of what a person who has thyroid cancer

wants to do. Everyone who has been treated for thyroid cancer is maintained on

enough meds to keep TSH suppressed (as close to zero as possible) for life

because TSH is known to aggravate the thyroid, cause it to become very active,

and promote recurrence and metastatis. Therefore, taking something (in this

case, iodine) that causes a dramatic increase in TSH doesn't make sense.

Could someone please explain to me why I should not be worried about this?

With gratitude,

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you did not get a thyroidectomy. TSH increases are only applicable when you have had a thyroidectomy.

If you have a thyroid then it is a good thing to increase TSH so that more thyroglobulin is generated so that iodine can be bound to the protein.

TSH will not increase from iodine when you have thyroidectomy because you are artificially supplying hormone. The feedback loop is messed up.

Buist, ND HC

thyroid cancer patient concerned about risk of iodine-related TSH spike

Dear Moderators, Happy 2012! I am on the Iodine Protocol and a strict diet to treat papillary thyroid cancer. (I have not had surgery or any other treatment). I have never had a thyroid problem or symptoms, so I am NOT on any kind of hormone meds (NOT taking Synthroid or Armour or Naturethroid) I have a huge concern, given my particular situation (thyroid cancer) about the spike (increase) in TSH level that is caused by taking iodine. Increasing TSH by taking iodine is exactly the opposite of what a person who has thyroid cancer wants to do. Everyone who has been treated for thyroid cancer is maintained on enough meds to keep TSH suppressed (as close to zero as possible) for life because TSH is known to aggravate the thyroid, cause it to become very active, and promote recurrence and metastatis. Therefore, taking something (in this case, iodine) that causes a dramatic increase in TSH doesn't make sense. Could someone please explain to me why I should not be worried about this? With gratitude,

[Guest guest]

thanks Lady...If I could follow up...are you saying that the TSH increase that

occurs in response to iodine supplementation does not pose a risk to patients

attempting to treat thyroid cancer with iodine? So rising TSH only increases

the risk of thyroid cancer and metastatic disease in patients who have had their

thyroids removed?? Thanks for all your work on the board.

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> It sounds like you did not get a thyroidectomy. TSH increases are only

applicable when you have had a thyroidectomy.

>

> If you have a thyroid then it is a good thing to increase TSH so that more

thyroglobulin is generated so that iodine can be bound to the protein.

>

> TSH will not increase from iodine when you have thyroidectomy because you are

artificially supplying hormone. The feedback loop is messed up.

>

> Buist, ND HC

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> thyroid cancer patient concerned about risk of

iodine-related TSH spike

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> Dear Moderators,

>

> Happy 2012! I am on the Iodine Protocol and a strict diet to treat papillary

thyroid cancer. (I have not had surgery or any other treatment). I have never

had a thyroid problem or symptoms, so I am NOT on any kind of hormone meds (NOT

taking Synthroid or Armour or Naturethroid)

>

> I have a huge concern, given my particular situation (thyroid cancer) about

the spike (increase) in TSH level that is caused by taking iodine. Increasing

TSH by taking iodine is exactly the opposite of what a person who has thyroid

cancer wants to do. Everyone who has been treated for thyroid cancer is

maintained on enough meds to keep TSH suppressed (as close to zero as possible)

for life because TSH is known to aggravate the thyroid, cause it to become very

active, and promote recurrence and metastatis. Therefore, taking something (in

this case, iodine) that causes a dramatic increase in TSH doesn't make sense.

>

> Could someone please explain to me why I should not be worried about this?

>

> With gratitude,

>

>

[Guest guest]

The reason they are concerned with TSH in a thyroid cancer patient is that they have followed "The Protocol".

1. Remove as much thyroid gland as they can.

2. Ablate the tissue so that nothing remains.

3. They are never sure that they have gotten all the thyroid cancer cells or thyroid tissue so they suppress the TSH so that the cells are not stimulated.

But if you have not had a thyroidectomy the thyroid cells are being stimulated by TSH every day as a part of the normal function of the thyroid. It's the act of stimulating not the level of TSH that is the supposed *risk*.

thyroid cancer patient concerned about risk of iodine-related TSH spike> > > > Dear Moderators, > > Happy 2012! I am on the Iodine Protocol and a strict diet to treat papillary thyroid cancer. (I have not had surgery or any other treatment). I have never had a thyroid problem or symptoms, so I am NOT on any kind of hormone meds (NOT taking Synthroid or Armour or Naturethroid) > > I have a huge concern, given my particular situation (thyroid cancer) about the spike (increase) in TSH level that is caused by taking iodine. Increasing TSH by taking iodine is exactly the opposite of what a person who has thyroid cancer wants to do. Everyone who has been treated for thyroid cancer is maintained on enough meds to keep TSH suppressed (as close to zero as possible) for life because TSH is known to aggravate the thyroid, cause it to become very active, and promote recurrence and metastatis. Therefore, taking something (in this case, iodine) that causes a dramatic increase in TSH doesn't make sense. > > Could someone please explain to me why I should not be worried about this? > > With gratitude,> >

[Guest guest]

Hi all. I have had papillary thyroid cancer (diagnosed 7 months ago) and have

followed " The Protocol " as it were but have yet to find out my results from the

ROI.

I am being guided towards increasing my iodine intake, by a TCM practisioner, in

the form of seaweed powder. I feel like this is what my body needs but I am

concerned that it may hamper my hospital results.

As I understand it testing the TSH levels is the only way the docs can read what

is going on with the cancer, ie whether is gone or not.

I am confused about iodine. Does it increase the TSH?

Will this be the case for me considering I have had a thyroidectomy?

I do not want anymore treatment if I can help it!

If anyone has any advice that'd be great.

Loving Thanks

Elodie

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> > It sounds like you did not get a thyroidectomy. TSH increases are only

applicable when you have had a thyroidectomy.

> >

> > If you have a thyroid then it is a good thing to increase TSH so that more

thyroglobulin is generated so that iodine can be bound to the protein.

> >

> > TSH will not increase from iodine when you have thyroidectomy because you

are artificially supplying hormone. The feedback loop is messed up.

> >

> > Buist, ND HC

> >

> >

> > thyroid cancer patient concerned about risk of

iodine-related TSH spike

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> >

> >

> > Dear Moderators,

> >

> > Happy 2012! I am on the Iodine Protocol and a strict diet to treat

papillary thyroid cancer. (I have not had surgery or any other treatment). I

have never had a thyroid problem or symptoms, so I am NOT on any kind of hormone

meds (NOT taking Synthroid or Armour or Naturethroid)

> >

> > I have a huge concern, given my particular situation (thyroid cancer)

about the spike (increase) in TSH level that is caused by taking iodine.

Increasing TSH by taking iodine is exactly the opposite of what a person who has

thyroid cancer wants to do. Everyone who has been treated for thyroid cancer is

maintained on enough meds to keep TSH suppressed (as close to zero as possible)

for life because TSH is known to aggravate the thyroid, cause it to become very

active, and promote recurrence and metastatis. Therefore, taking something (in

this case, iodine) that causes a dramatic increase in TSH doesn't make sense.

> >

> > Could someone please explain to me why I should not be worried about this?

> >

> > With gratitude,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It doesn't increase TSH in those of us w/o a thyroid. The feedback loop is broken. I had 3 RAI's (all failed) over a 5 yr time period. I decided to refuse Ext Beam Radiation and went with Dr. Brownstein's protocol. I got up to 125 mgs / day at my highest. Now I take 50 - 100 mgs / day depending on how I feel that day. I did a lot of other things on my journey too. But Iodine was one of the biggest things I needed.

Buist, ND HC

thyroid cancer patient concerned about risk of iodine-related TSH spike> > > > > > > > Dear Moderators, > > > > Happy 2012! I am on the Iodine Protocol and a strict diet to treat papillary thyroid cancer. (I have not had surgery or any other treatment). I have never had a thyroid problem or symptoms, so I am NOT on any kind of hormone meds (NOT taking Synthroid or Armour or Naturethroid) > > > > I have a huge concern, given my particular situation (thyroid cancer) about the spike (increase) in TSH level that is caused by taking iodine. Increasing TSH by taking iodine is exactly the opposite of what a person who has thyroid cancer wants to do. Everyone who has been treated for thyroid cancer is maintained on enough meds to keep TSH suppressed (as close to zero as possible) for life because TSH is known to aggravate the thyroid, cause it to become very active, and promote recurrence and metastatis. Therefore, taking something (in this case, iodine) that causes a dramatic increase in TSH doesn't make sense. > > > > Could someone please explain to me why I should not be worried about this? > > > > With gratitude,> > > >>