Re: Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

Iodine doesn’t cause joint pain, however this could be part of bromide detox. Are you taking the companion nutrients? Please make sure you do. They are talked about in The Guide for Supplementing with Iodine that was sent to you when you joined. If you didn’t save it, please go to Files, then New Members Read First, then click on The Guide for Supplementing with Iodine.

Again, it is very important to take the companion nutrients when taking iodine. If you continue to have this discomfort in your joint, you can try a Salt Loading which is also explained in the same Guide.

Best,

Kathleen

-moderator

Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

Hi Group:

I've been lurking this group for some time. I'm interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I've found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation.

I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago.

I've got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack - but I don't get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take.

The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose...will Iodine produce joint pain?

Any ideas?

Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

Dave,It's possible that your shoulder pain is completely unrelated to iodine and your health conditions. I had a very painful shoulder for a time and it turned out that my chiropractor found a spot in my neck that was way out of whack and after he adjusted me the shoulder pain disappeared.Hope yours is something simple and fixable too!-Kim From: Dave

<summers.d@...> iodine Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 9:07 AM Subject: Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

Hi Group: I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation. I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago. I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take. The only

thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain? Any ideas? Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

You can also try the detox bath with 1 Cup Epsom Salts and 1 Cup Hydrogen Peroxide - soak in very warm water for 20 mins.

Buist, ND HC

Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

Hi Group:

I've been lurking this group for some time. I'm interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I've found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation.

I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago.

I've got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack - but I don't get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take.

The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose...will Iodine produce joint pain?

Any ideas?

Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]



You are correct Kim. I get pain in my joints from foods that I have issues with like Soy makes my hands hurt.

Buist, ND HC

Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

Hi Group:

I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation.

I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago.

I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take.

The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain?

Any ideas?

Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

Hi I tried soy back about 6 years ago and was on the low carb diet and only had 1 six oz glass a day. Instead of continuing losing weight I suddenly put on 12 lbs in two weeks and my normal resting heartbeat of 40 or 50 became 135 or over. Made my thyroid go nuts. Can't take it in any form , not even a tiny bit. By the way I had to call off sick tonite . Hate to work over nites any ways. By the way I put 7 drops of lugol's in the peroxide mist bottle and am inhaling it every couple hours with the sea salt / BS mix and praying it starts to make me feel better soon. I feel horrible. Is this going around or is this detox. I cannot take in a big breathe unless I force it. I cannot find my plastic little ball thingy they gave me in the hospital when I was real sick and had double pneumonia. Can you all just say a prayer for me tonight. Many hugs are being sent your way. Rae Sent from my iPodOn Jan 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:



You are correct Kim. I get pain in my joints from foods that I have issues with like Soy makes my hands hurt.

Buist, ND HC

Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

Hi Group:

I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation.

I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago.

I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take.

The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain?

Any ideas?

Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

Dave I agree with Kathleen that it's probably your personal version of bromide

detox symptoms. Follow her advice. Frequently bromide symptoms will evidence

as symptoms of illnesses we have sufferered from in the past.

Let us know how this goes for you. You might want to drop your iodine dose down

to 25/12.5 per day in order to give your body a chance to more slowly detox the

bromides. Detoxing more quickly than our body can process the detox materials

is

what produces the symptoms.

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moderator

On 2 Jan 2012 at 7:07, Dave wrote:

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> Hi Group:

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> I´ve been lurking this group for some time. I´m interested in

> iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate.

> I´ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine

> supplementation.

>

> I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in

> pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and

> pm two days ago.

>

> I´ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a

> gout attack - but I don´t get gout anymore with the

> allopurinal I take.

>

> The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose.........will Iodine

> produce joint pain?

>

> Any ideas?

>

> Dave in Portland

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just a thought from an iodine newbie...I get joint pain when my magnesium is low. Since it is a companion nutrient, maybe you aren't getting enough of it?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Dave <summers.d@...> wrote:

 

Hi Group:

 

I’ve been lurking this group for some time.  I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate.  I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation.

 

I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks.  I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago.

 

I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take.

 

The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain?

 

Any ideas?

 

Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

Only change in diet is the Iodine dosage.  I’m on a pretty strict low carb diet so it’s easy to track changes.  The problem is within the joint, not a soft tissue issue. The joint is extremely painful to the touch, just like gout. Been through enough sports related problems to know the difference. Dave From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:32 PMiodine Subject: Re: Joint Pain caused by Iodine?  You are correct Kim. I get pain in my joints from foods that I have issues with like Soy makes my hands hurt. Buist, ND HC Joint Pain caused by Iodine? Hi Group: I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation. I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago. I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take. The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain? Any ideas? Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

Hi, Mag should not be low, I’m taking a supplement. Dave From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of GagnonSent: Monday, January 02, 2012 5:38 PMiodine Subject: Re: Joint Pain caused by Iodine? Just a thought from an iodine newbie...I get joint pain when my magnesium is low. Since it is a companion nutrient, maybe you aren't getting enough of it?On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Dave <summers.d@...> wrote: Hi Group: I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation. I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago. I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take. The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain? Any ideas? Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

I’m going to go to Zero Iodine for several days and then try again starting with 12.5 MG twice a day. The pain in my shoulder was comparable to a nasty gout attack in the toe or foot……something to look forward to again….. Dave From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of BakerSent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:47 PMiodine Subject: Re: Joint Pain caused by Iodine? Dave I agree with Kathleen that it's probably your personal version of bromide detox symptoms. Follow her advice. Frequently bromide symptoms will evidence as symptoms of illnesses we have sufferered from in the past.Let us know how this goes for you. You might want to drop your iodine dose down to 25/12.5 per day in order to give your body a chance to more slowly detox the bromides. Detoxing more quickly than our body can process the detox materials is what produces the symptoms. --moderatorOn 2 Jan 2012 at 7:07, Dave wrote:> > > > Hi Group:> > I´ve been lurking this group for some time. I´m interested in> iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate.> I´ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine> supplementation.> > I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in> pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and> pm two days ago.> > I´ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a> gout attack - but I don´t get gout anymore with the> allopurinal I take.> > The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose.........will Iodine> produce joint pain?> > Any ideas?> > Dave in Portland> > > >

[Guest guest]



Hi Dave,

My husband used to get gout a lot before he started iodine. In the beginning of starting iodine, he would feel he was getting gout (for him it was his toe or ankle), so he would do much salt loading and drank lots of water, and the gout like symptom would pass. ( He was not on allupurinol, and never has been). As the years have gone by and he is still taking 50mg of iodine daily, plus the companion nutrients, he has not had another gout attack. Sometimes the body will heal old injuries, etc., and that is what could be happening to you. After you try the salt loading, and if that doesn’t seem to help, try pulse dosing; which means 5 days on iodine, 2 days off. Our cut down your dosage and slowly work your way up. You will have to experiment and see what is best for you. I would guess the iodine is helping the body to release the uric acid that may still reside in your joints. Like with my husband, I am thinking this could be a good thing, albeit painful.

Best,

Kathleen

moderator

Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

Hi Group:

I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation.

I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago.

I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take.

The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain?

Any ideas?

Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

Gout, allopurinol, a-fib? Sounds like diabetes or more specifically insulin

resistance/metabolic syndrome.

1) low carb lifestyle (get insulin resistance down) this will help with

magnesium depletion. Try protein power by drs Eades. (stay under 50gm day)

Some blogs: heartscanblog, hyperlipid, wholehealthsource, animalpharm, cooling

inflammation.

2) avoid fructose (from every source: sugar, agave syrup, fruit juice etc) as it

causes gout.

3)supplement magnesium for the afib

Put some Epsom salts in a salt shaker and shake it lightly on foods and drinks

and you can skip allopurinol.

Sent from my iPhone

[Guest guest]

Dave,Have you had your uric acid levels checked by a blood panel? From: Dave <summers.d@...>iodine Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 8:36:07 PMSubject: RE: Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

Only change in diet is the Iodine dosage. I’m on a pretty strict low carb diet so it’s easy to track changes. The problem is within the joint, not a soft tissue issue. The joint is extremely painful to the touch, just like gout. Been through enough sports related problems to know the difference. Dave From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:32 PMiodine Subject: Re: Joint Pain caused by Iodine?  You are correct Kim. I get pain in my joints from foods that I have issues with like Soy makes my hands hurt. Buist, ND HC Joint Pain caused by Iodine? Hi Group: I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation. I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago. I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take. The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain? Any ideas? Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

, I’ve not had this checked for years.  I’ve been content to assume the level is ok if I do not get gout episodes. Dave From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of DeNormandieSent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:56 PMiodine Subject: Re: Joint Pain caused by Iodine? Dave,Have you had your uric acid levels checked by a blood panel? From: Dave <summers.d@...>iodine Sent: Mon, January 2, 2012 8:36:07 PMSubject: RE: Joint Pain caused by Iodine? Only change in diet is the Iodine dosage. I’m on a pretty strict low carb diet so it’s easy to track changes. The problem is within the joint, not a soft tissue issue. The joint is extremely painful to the touch, just like gout. Been through enough sports related problems to know the difference. Dave From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:32 PMiodine Subject: Re: Joint Pain caused by Iodine?  You are correct Kim. I get pain in my joints from foods that I have issues with like Soy makes my hands hurt. Buist, ND HC Joint Pain caused by Iodine? Hi Group: I’ve been lurking this group for some time. I’m interested in iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate. I’ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine supplementation. I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm two days ago. I’ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a gout attack – but I don’t get gout anymore with the allopurinal I take. The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose………will Iodine produce joint pain? Any ideas? Dave in Portland

[Guest guest]

Dave-- When ramping up one's dose I prefer Lugol's because you can increase in

smaller increments more easily. You're doing the right thing, imo, taking a

break

and starting over. For sure, don't make a 25mg jump again. Don't increase more

than one tablet of Iodoral at a time.

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On 2 Jan 2012 at 18:36, Dave wrote:

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> I´m going to go to Zero Iodine for several days and then try

> again starting with 12.5 MG twice a day.

>

> The pain in my shoulder was comparable to a nasty gout attack in

> the toe or foot......something to look forward to again.....

>

> Dave

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

> Behalf Of Baker Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:47 PM

> iodine Subject: Re: Joint Pain caused

> by Iodine?

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> Dave I agree with Kathleen that it's probably your personal version of

> bromide detox symptoms. Follow her advice. Frequently bromide symptoms

> will evidence as symptoms of illnesses we have sufferered from in the

> past.

>

> Let us know how this goes for you. You might want to drop your iodine

> dose down to 25/12.5 per day in order to give your body a chance to

> more slowly detox the bromides. Detoxing more quickly than our body

> can process the detox materials is what produces the symptoms.

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> --

> moderator

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> On 2 Jan 2012 at 7:07, Dave wrote:

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> > Hi Group:

> >

> > I´ve been lurking this group for some time. I´m interested in

> > iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate.

> > I´ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine

> > supplementation.

> >

> > I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in

> > pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and pm

> > two days ago.

> >

> > I´ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a

> > gout attack - but I don´t get gout anymore with the

> > allopurinal I take.

> >

> > The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose.........will Iodine

> > produce joint pain?

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> > Dave in Portland

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[Guest guest]

I agree, Kathleen, to me it sounds like a healing crisis. --

On 2 Jan 2012 at 19:48, Kathleen Blake wrote:

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> Hi Dave,

> My husband used to get gout a lot before he started iodine. In the

> beginning of starting iodine, he would feel he was getting gout (for

> him it was his toe or ankle), so he would do much salt loading and

> drank lots of water, and the gout like symptom would pass. ( He was

> not on allupurinol, and never has been). As the years have gone by and

> he is still taking 50mg of iodine daily, plus the companion nutrients,

> he has not had another gout attack. Sometimes the body will heal old

> injuries, etc., and that is what could be happening to you. After you

> try the salt loading, and if that doesn´t seem to help, try pulse

> dosing; which means 5 days on iodine, 2 days off. Our cut down your

> dosage and slowly work your way up. You will have to experiment and

> see what is best for you. I would guess the iodine is helping the body

> to release the uric acid that may still reside in your joints. Like

> with my husband, I am thinking this could be a good thing, albeit

> painful. Best, Kathleen moderator

> Joint Pain caused by Iodine?

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> Hi Group:

>

>

> I´ve been lurking this group for some time. I´m interested in

> iodine due to being diagnosed with A-Fib and enlarged prostate.

> I´ve found reference to both conditions benefiting by iodine

> supplementation.

>

>

> I have been taking 25 MG of Iodoral, 12.5 MG in am and 12.5 MG in

> pm, for several weeks. I just started taking 25 MG both in am and

> pm two days ago.

>

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> I´ve got a shoulder joint that is hurting like a joint with a

> gout attack - but I don´t get gout anymore with the

> allopurinal I take.

>

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> The only thing changed is the Iodoral dose.........will Iodine

> produce joint pain?

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> Any ideas?

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> Dave in Portland

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