Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi , Do you mix iodine into the oil before putting it on the skin? If so, what proportions, and do they mix easily? Can I store a mixture in a closed jar, or would I need to mix it each time? I have a thyroid nodule so I'm thinking of using it on the skin over my thyroid. Thanks, Melody On 1/4/2012 4:53 PM, Baker wrote: > Reminder: Please change the subject line if the subject changes or if you're > bumping the subject. It may not get noticed otherwise. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > It's not actually that Lugol's dries out the skin, and it's not an allergic reaction as > someone else responded. The reason Lugol's can cause a skin rash (dermatitis) is > because iodine is oxidizing and it irritates the skin. Not drying out, not allergy. > > The way to avoid this is to use an oil carrier. People frequently use coconut oil, > some use castor oil, others use jojoba oil. Painting is sometimes a very location- > specific need, such as those with thyca who need to paint over the throat, or those > with breast or uterus/ovary issues who need to paint directly over those spots. So > moving around is not appropriate for some people, and, without an oil carrier, even > those who are moving around may eventually irritate the skin. > > How much oil to Lugol's is a personal matter. But it's much better to start off with > the oil carrier than to wait until you have the dermatitis, because you first have to > heal the dermatitis before you can use the oil carrier/Lugol's. It doesn't take a lot of > oil to prevent the dermatitis. But you'll have to experiment and discover for yourself > what works best. > > Some people are afraid the oil will prevent absorption. That's actually not how it > works-- it's actually a myth that oils aren't absorbed by the skin-- it depends on > which oil. But you want to use a nutritive oil carrier, not grease or something like > corn oil or mineral oil. Castor oil has healing properties of its own and is very > valuable for this, some use a combo of castor and coconut (which has skin healing > properties). Jojoba oil is the closest to our own hair and skin oils, and absorbs > rapidly. There are other nutritive oils that would work. But these are the 3 most > often discussed. > > -- > moderator > > > > > >> Hi , >> Lugol's will dry out your skin. >> So - when painting on the body, use a different spot every day. >> For targeted painting you will need to apply something like Pawpaw >> lotion to rehydrate the skin. >> >> >> >> Re: Lori long time no update >> >> >> But yes, increasing the iodine is the protocol to seeing change in >> disease states. In addition, paint the Lugol's on the outside of your >> throat over the thyroid, the whole area. External application over >> problem areas really helps, in addition to the internal. >> >> -- > > > ------------------------------------ > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/ > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%\ 20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yes, that's the idea, to mix it into the oil before putting it on the skin. Yes, you can make up a quantity in advance, but you'll want to experiment first to find the ideal oil/iodine ratio. Yes, they generally mix easily, afaik (not having used all oils). The proportion to use is personal. It will have to do with how fast your skin absorbs the oil and which oil you are using. That's why you need to experiment. -- > Hi , > > Do you mix iodine into the oil before putting it on the skin? If so, > what proportions, and do they mix easily? Can I store a mixture in a > closed jar, or would I need to mix it each time? I have a thyroid > nodule so I'm thinking of using it on the skin over my thyroid. > > Thanks, > Melody > > On 1/4/2012 4:53 PM, Baker wrote: > > Reminder: Please change the subject line if the subject changes or > > if you're bumping the subject. It may not get noticed otherwise. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > > It's not actually that Lugol's dries out the skin, and it's not an > > allergic reaction as someone else responded. The reason Lugol's can > > cause a skin rash (dermatitis) is because iodine is oxidizing and it > > irritates the skin. Not drying out, not allergy. > > > > The way to avoid this is to use an oil carrier. People frequently > > use coconut oil, some use castor oil, others use jojoba oil. > > Painting is sometimes a very location- specific need, such as those > > with thyca who need to paint over the throat, or those with breast > > or uterus/ovary issues who need to paint directly over those spots. > > So moving around is not appropriate for some people, and, without an > > oil carrier, even those who are moving around may eventually > > irritate the skin. > > > > How much oil to Lugol's is a personal matter. But it's much better > > to start off with the oil carrier than to wait until you have the > > dermatitis, because you first have to heal the dermatitis before you > > can use the oil carrier/Lugol's. It doesn't take a lot of oil to > > prevent the dermatitis. But you'll have to experiment and discover > > for yourself what works best. > > > > Some people are afraid the oil will prevent absorption. That's > > actually not how it works-- it's actually a myth that oils aren't > > absorbed by the skin-- it depends on which oil. But you want to use > > a nutritive oil carrier, not grease or something like corn oil or > > mineral oil. Castor oil has healing properties of its own and is > > very valuable for this, some use a combo of castor and coconut > > (which has skin healing properties). Jojoba oil is the closest to > > our own hair and skin oils, and absorbs rapidly. There are other > > nutritive oils that would work. But these are the 3 most often > > discussed. > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi , > >> Lugol's will dry out your skin. > >> So - when painting on the body, use a different spot every day. For > >> targeted painting you will need to apply something like Pawpaw > >> lotion to rehydrate the skin. > >> > >> > >> > >> Re: Lori long time no update > >> > >> > >> But yes, increasing the iodine is the protocol to seeing change in > >> disease states. In addition, paint the Lugol's on the outside of > >> your throat over the thyroid, the whole area. External application > >> over problem areas really helps, in addition to the internal. > >> > >> -- > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS > > %20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Thanks! On 1/4/2012 10:17 PM, Baker wrote: > Yes, that's the idea, to mix it into the oil before putting it on the skin. Yes, you can > make up a quantity in advance, but you'll want to experiment first to find the ideal > oil/iodine ratio. Yes, they generally mix easily, afaik (not having used all oils). > > The proportion to use is personal. It will have to do with how fast your skin absorbs > the oil and which oil you are using. That's why you need to experiment. > > -- > >> Hi , >> >> Do you mix iodine into the oil before putting it on the skin? If so, >> what proportions, and do they mix easily? Can I store a mixture in a >> closed jar, or would I need to mix it each time? I have a thyroid >> nodule so I'm thinking of using it on the skin over my thyroid. >> >> Thanks, >> Melody >> >> On 1/4/2012 4:53 PM, Baker wrote: >>> Reminder: Please change the subject line if the subject changes or >>> if you're bumping the subject. It may not get noticed otherwise. >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --- >>> >>> It's not actually that Lugol's dries out the skin, and it's not an >>> allergic reaction as someone else responded. The reason Lugol's can >>> cause a skin rash (dermatitis) is because iodine is oxidizing and it >>> irritates the skin. Not drying out, not allergy. >>> >>> The way to avoid this is to use an oil carrier. People frequently >>> use coconut oil, some use castor oil, others use jojoba oil. >>> Painting is sometimes a very location- specific need, such as those >>> with thyca who need to paint over the throat, or those with breast >>> or uterus/ovary issues who need to paint directly over those spots. >>> So moving around is not appropriate for some people, and, without an >>> oil carrier, even those who are moving around may eventually >>> irritate the skin. >>> >>> How much oil to Lugol's is a personal matter. But it's much better >>> to start off with the oil carrier than to wait until you have the >>> dermatitis, because you first have to heal the dermatitis before you >>> can use the oil carrier/Lugol's. It doesn't take a lot of oil to >>> prevent the dermatitis. But you'll have to experiment and discover >>> for yourself what works best. >>> >>> Some people are afraid the oil will prevent absorption. That's >>> actually not how it works-- it's actually a myth that oils aren't >>> absorbed by the skin-- it depends on which oil. But you want to use >>> a nutritive oil carrier, not grease or something like corn oil or >>> mineral oil. Castor oil has healing properties of its own and is >>> very valuable for this, some use a combo of castor and coconut >>> (which has skin healing properties). Jojoba oil is the closest to >>> our own hair and skin oils, and absorbs rapidly. There are other >>> nutritive oils that would work. But these are the 3 most often >>> discussed. >>> >>> -- >>> moderator >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi , >>>> Lugol's will dry out your skin. >>>> So - when painting on the body, use a different spot every day. For >>>> targeted painting you will need to apply something like Pawpaw >>>> lotion to rehydrate the skin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Re: Lori long time no update >>>> >>>> >>>> But yes, increasing the iodine is the protocol to seeing change in >>>> disease states. In addition, paint the Lugol's on the outside of >>>> your throat over the thyroid, the whole area. External application >>>> over problem areas really helps, in addition to the internal. >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Owner: Buist, ND HC >>> Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn >>> >>> All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group >>> IodineOT/ >>> >>> >>> The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >>> iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS >>> %20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Apply with fingers or use a brush to apply in affected area?thnxSAJOn Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote: Â Yes, that's the idea, to mix it into the oil before putting it on the skin. Yes, you can make up a quantity in advance, but you'll want to experiment first to find the ideal oil/iodine ratio. Yes, they generally mix easily, afaik (not having used all oils). The proportion to use is personal. It will have to do with how fast your skin absorbs the oil and which oil you are using. That's why you need to experiment. -- > Hi , > > Do you mix iodine into the oil before putting it on the skin? If so, > what proportions, and do they mix easily? Can I store a mixture in a > closed jar, or would I need to mix it each time? I have a thyroid > nodule so I'm thinking of using it on the skin over my thyroid. > > Thanks, > Melody > > On 1/4/2012 4:53 PM, Baker wrote: > > Reminder: Please change the subject line if the subject changes or > > if you're bumping the subject. It may not get noticed otherwise. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > > It's not actually that Lugol's dries out the skin, and it's not an > > allergic reaction as someone else responded. The reason Lugol's can > > cause a skin rash (dermatitis) is because iodine is oxidizing and it > > irritates the skin. Not drying out, not allergy. > > > > The way to avoid this is to use an oil carrier. People frequently > > use coconut oil, some use castor oil, others use jojoba oil. > > Painting is sometimes a very location- specific need, such as those > > with thyca who need to paint over the throat, or those with breast > > or uterus/ovary issues who need to paint directly over those spots. > > So moving around is not appropriate for some people, and, without an > > oil carrier, even those who are moving around may eventually > > irritate the skin. > > > > How much oil to Lugol's is a personal matter. But it's much better > > to start off with the oil carrier than to wait until you have the > > dermatitis, because you first have to heal the dermatitis before you > > can use the oil carrier/Lugol's. It doesn't take a lot of oil to > > prevent the dermatitis. But you'll have to experiment and discover > > for yourself what works best. > > > > Some people are afraid the oil will prevent absorption. That's > > actually not how it works-- it's actually a myth that oils aren't > > absorbed by the skin-- it depends on which oil. But you want to use > > a nutritive oil carrier, not grease or something like corn oil or > > mineral oil. Castor oil has healing properties of its own and is > > very valuable for this, some use a combo of castor and coconut > > (which has skin healing properties). Jojoba oil is the closest to > > our own hair and skin oils, and absorbs rapidly. There are other > > nutritive oils that would work. But these are the 3 most often > > discussed. > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi , > >> Lugol's will dry out your skin. > >> So - when painting on the body, use a different spot every day. For > >> targeted painting you will need to apply something like Pawpaw > >> lotion to rehydrate the skin. > >> > >> > >> > >> Re: Lori long time no update > >> > >> > >> But yes, increasing the iodine is the protocol to seeing change in > >> disease states. In addition, paint the Lugol's on the outside of > >> your throat over the thyroid, the whole area. External application > >> over problem areas really helps, in addition to the internal. > >> > >> -- > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS > > %20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 apply with fingers-- a brush would absorb oil/iodine and waste it, and then you don't know of the brush is absorbing more iodine than oil, messing up the amount you think you're dosing. By hand, and then rub the remainder into your hands. It's all good! -- On 5 Jan 2012 at 0:45, Sajjad Ansari wrote: > > > > Apply with fingers or use a brush to apply in affected area? > > thnx > SAJ > > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Baker <vbaker@...> > wrote: > > Yes, that's the idea, to mix it into the oil before putting it on the > skin. Yes, you can make up a quantity in advance, but you'll want to > experiment first to find the ideal oil/iodine ratio. Yes, they > generally mix easily, afaik (not having used all oils). > > The proportion to use is personal. It will have to do with how fast > your skin absorbs the oil and which oil you are using. That's why you > need to experiment. > > -- > > > > Hi , > > > > Do you mix iodine into the oil before putting it on the skin? If so, > > what proportions, and do they mix easily? Can I store a mixture in a > > closed jar, or would I need to mix it each time? I have a thyroid > > nodule so I'm thinking of using it on the skin over my thyroid. > > > > Thanks, > > Melody > > > > On 1/4/2012 4:53 PM, Baker wrote: > > > Reminder: Please change the subject line if the subject changes or > > > if you're bumping the subject. It may not get noticed otherwise. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > > > > It's not actually that Lugol's dries out the skin, and it's not an > > > allergic reaction as someone else responded. The reason Lugol's > > > can cause a skin rash (dermatitis) is because iodine is oxidizing > > > and it irritates the skin. Not drying out, not allergy. > > > > > > The way to avoid this is to use an oil carrier. People frequently > > > use coconut oil, some use castor oil, others use jojoba oil. > > > Painting is sometimes a very location- specific need, such as > > > those with thyca who need to paint over the throat, or those with > > > breast or uterus/ovary issues who need to paint directly over > > > those spots. So moving around is not appropriate for some people, > > > and, without an oil carrier, even those who are moving around may > > > eventually irritate the skin. > > > > > > How much oil to Lugol's is a personal matter. But it's much better > > > to start off with the oil carrier than to wait until you have the > > > dermatitis, because you first have to heal the dermatitis before > > > you can use the oil carrier/Lugol's. It doesn't take a lot of oil > > > to prevent the dermatitis. But you'll have to experiment and > > > discover for yourself what works best. > > > > > > Some people are afraid the oil will prevent absorption. That's > > > actually not how it works-- it's actually a myth that oils aren't > > > absorbed by the skin-- it depends on which oil. But you want to > > > use a nutritive oil carrier, not grease or something like corn oil > > > or mineral oil. Castor oil has healing properties of its own and > > > is very valuable for this, some use a combo of castor and coconut > > > (which has skin healing properties). Jojoba oil is the closest to > > > our own hair and skin oils, and absorbs rapidly. There are other > > > nutritive oils that would work. But these are the 3 most often > > > discussed. > > > > > > -- > > > moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 With the straight Lugol's I just use the side of the dropper to paint it on. Almost anything else would absorb some and/or stain. If mixing with oil I would still look for something non-absorptive to spread it on -perhaps the back of a plastic spoon? Re: Lori long time no update> >>> >>> >> But yes, increasing the iodine is the protocol to seeing change in> >> disease states. In addition, paint the Lugol's on the outside of> >> your throat over the thyroid, the whole area. External application> >> over problem areas really helps, in addition to the internal.> >>> >> --> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> > Owner: Buist, ND HC> > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > >> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/> >> >> > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list)> > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS> > %20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 If you get it on your hands and you need to remove the color, just take a bit of Vitamin C powder (or crush a tablet and use some) and it converts the brown iodiNe into clear iodiDe. Voila! No more stain. Don't do that in general, over the painted areas, because you want both types of iodine to penetrate, but it works well if you need to clean up your hands. --V On 5 Jan 2012 at 19:25, Marsh wrote: > > > > With the straight Lugol's I just use the side of the dropper to paint > it on. Almost anything else would absorb some and/or stain. > > If mixing with oil I would still look for something non-absorptive to > spread it on -perhaps the back of a plastic spoon? > > > Re: Lori long time no update > > >> > > >> > > >> But yes, increasing the iodine is the protocol to seeing change > > >> in disease states. In addition, paint the Lugol's on the outside > > >> of your throat over the thyroid, the whole area. External > > >> application over problem areas really helps, in addition to the > > >> internal. > > >> > > >> -- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBE > > > RS %20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I would only recommend using the dropper to paint it on if that bottle of Lugol's is only used for painting. Otherwise you are picking up skin oils and dirt that would render the Lugol's in the bottle contaminated for internal use. -- On 5 Jan 2012 at 19:25, Marsh wrote: > > > > With the straight Lugol's I just use the side of the dropper to paint > it on. Almost anything else would absorb some and/or stain. > > If mixing with oil I would still look for something non-absorptive to > spread it on -perhaps the back of a plastic spoon? > > > Re: Lori long time no update > > >> > > >> > > >> But yes, increasing the iodine is the protocol to seeing change > > >> in disease states. In addition, paint the Lugol's on the outside > > >> of your throat over the thyroid, the whole area. External > > >> application over problem areas really helps, in addition to the > > >> internal. > > >> > > >> -- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBE > > > RS %20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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