Need some advice

[Guest guest]

That is a toughie! Part of me wants to say, celebrate him being home

and then get back on- part of me wants to be a hard ass and say,

stick to it! I would probably say to try and stick with it and maybe

have a couple free meals so that you are compromising!

> hi again!

>

> Have a situation need help with. My husband is in Iraq, fighting

the

> war. And he is due home in a couple of weeks, he is currently duing

> B4L over there, somewhat. Anyways, he wants to take a week off when

> he gets back since he hasnt enjoyed any normal food, as he is

> currently eating MRES and myoplex shakes, and he wants me to do it

> with him. I am trying to get back on track, with this and don't

know

> what to do about it. Any suggestions?

>

> Jen

[Guest guest]

Eat clean until he comes home, then let loose & have fun!!!!

Congrats on your hubby coming home!!!

Amethyst

need some advice

> hi again!

>

> Have a situation need help with. My husband is in Iraq, fighting the

> war. And he is due home in a couple of weeks, he is currently duing

> B4L over there, somewhat. Anyways, he wants to take a week off when

> he gets back since he hasnt enjoyed any normal food, as he is

> currently eating MRES and myoplex shakes, and he wants me to do it

> with him. I am trying to get back on track, with this and don't know

> what to do about it. Any suggestions?

>

> Jen

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Been there, done that.

We explained (about a million times) to Maverick that we hug our FAMILY but

our friends and strangers we High Five, thumbs up, shake hands.

Explain to her Stranger Danger and then use the que word STRANGER and remind

her the appropriate greeting.

I would also write a social story about how we greet others.

You might also want to touch base with them at school and remind them that

she should NOT be hugging anyone, even a favorite teacher.

Maverick had the same aide for 4 yrs. When he first started working with her

it was OK for the hugs. As he got older it wasn't, so they developed a

SPECIAL handshake that was just for them. But, he also knew that when she came

to our home he could hug her because she was more like family then.

Hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

We use Hi5s with BJ . He is only allowed to hug and kiss family

members/friends. It is very important to re-inforce the no hugging

strangers etc. and start it now. BJ will still hug people- and most ppl

don't mind- but it will take awhile to " drum " into them But you do

need to have something in place- if BJ hugs someone- we say " n BJ - HI5 "

and he stands back and hi-5 them. This also helps with ppl who aren't

quite sure what to say or do- esp if it make them uncomfortable. I have

also found that by saying Hi5 ppl don't actually say to me anymore " oh

that's ok- he can hug me " and then you having to explain its not

ok...........So far everyone just smiles and lets BJ hi5 them and we all

go on our merry way- no one has been chastised, and everyone leaves happy.

Hope this helps

Leis- aussie mum to 2-9 kids...ready to bust at seams with bubs #3 with

2 weeks to go:)

khrysten wrote:

> I have a nine-year-old daughter with Down's that is, like most kids,

> very friendly and loving. Not necessarily a bad thing, except around

> strangers. No matter where we are at--school, grocery store, daycare--

> she is very insistent at running up to people and giving them hugs

> and sometimes kisses. I don't know how to tell or emphasize to her

> that being that friendly to strangers is wrong, without her thinking

> that she shouldn't be loving.

> As for now, when a situation arises, I'll pull her away from whoever

> she's been hugging, and tell/remind her that she can't do that to

> people she doesn't know. But it just doesn't seem to be sinking in.

> I'm really afraid of the potential danger she could put herself in.

> Does anyone have any ideas or advice for these types of situations?

>

> Christin

>

>

>

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In a message dated 2/14/2006 9:18:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

caitismom2000@... writes:

but excelled as some of you may remember in elementary school.

Hi Sue,

I would find out what they were doing in elementary school that they

are NOT doing now. Obviously they could take a few pointers, which might not

be a bad idea. Could you speak with some of her old teachers and question

them about what you should do to help her? Just a thought.

Loree

[Guest guest]

Hi Bishop - (is that an OK way to address you? I'm a little rusty on my

religious etiquette...)

I'd be a bit concerned about the blood. It may just be the irritation

from vomiting and all but I'd make an appt. with the doc pretty quick

all the same. Where and with who did you have your surgery done? After

all this time, you really should be feeling better - maybe not all back

to normal, but better none the less. When you mention pain, are you

talking about spasms? what have you tried to get over them? most of us

have them at some level and there are all kinds of tricks you can use

to get rid of them. go to Pepto Deb's NCCP post in the files section of

the site here and read it - it is everything you want and need to know

about spasms including most of the things we've found that work to get

rid of them before your up-chucking. Have you had the rest of your GI

system checked? Many of us have other GI complications; pyloric

stenosis, gastroparesis, gall bladder disease (that was mine, lots of

pain and lots of vomiting - once I had my GB removed, the vomiting

stopped) - maybe you've got something else going on.

you may not be ready for another operation (nothing saying you need

one) but it doesn't sound like doing nothing is working for you either.

It all comes down to quality of life.

Let us know where you are located and we should be able to point you in

the direction of a good GI. Going to a good GI who really understands A

can really make a world of difference to you.

Keep us posted.

Happy Swallowing!

- in NC

>

> Good morning to all!well I had my myopthy surgery in april matter of

> fact they did the surgery on me two time and had to do some

> recontrution too when they were doing the surgery .well affter being

> in the hospital for a month I have had my good days as well as bad it

> seems like i cant put back on any lbs and on sunday I had a upchuck

> day were I was in bad pain and in the morning I thew up a little

blood

> but most days im realy tried and just dont feel like doing anythinf

> afer work .what should i do should i go back to the doctors ?it seems

> to me life is getting a little hard for me not sure what to do now im

> not ready for another operation.

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks michelle for your advice I had my surgery in April in

Washington dc at Gorge Washington hospital and the surgery was done

by a DR treaceodis I hope that I speled his name right yes it is ok

to call me Bishop im a Catholic Bishop im in the Old Catholic church

that has no tides with the Roman Catholic church.no its not spasems

its pain im going to call the gi doctor soon his name is Dr Ali I

HAVE SEEN HIM BEFOR pluss I have been feeling very tried lately I

dont know if im depress or not I do know that somtime when folk go

thru an operation they do get depressed but im thinking its becuse

im upchuking and not feeling well

In achalasia , " michelle " <mcnairmichelle@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Bishop - (is that an OK way to address you? I'm a little rusty

on my

> religious etiquette...)

> I'd be a bit concerned about the blood. It may just be the

irritation

> from vomiting and all but I'd make an appt. with the doc pretty

quick

> all the same. Where and with who did you have your surgery done?

After

> all this time, you really should be feeling better - maybe not all

back

> to normal, but better none the less. When you mention pain, are

you

> talking about spasms? what have you tried to get over them? most

of us

> have them at some level and there are all kinds of tricks you can

use

> to get rid of them. go to Pepto Deb's NCCP post in the files

section of

> the site here and read it - it is everything you want and need to

know

> about spasms including most of the things we've found that work to

get

> rid of them before your up-chucking. Have you had the rest of your

GI

> system checked? Many of us have other GI complications; pyloric

> stenosis, gastroparesis, gall bladder disease (that was mine, lots

of

> pain and lots of vomiting - once I had my GB removed, the vomiting

> stopped) - maybe you've got something else going on.

> you may not be ready for another operation (nothing saying you

need

> one) but it doesn't sound like doing nothing is working for you

either.

> It all comes down to quality of life.

>

> Let us know where you are located and we should be able to point

you in

> the direction of a good GI. Going to a good GI who really

understands A

> can really make a world of difference to you.

>

> Keep us posted.

>

> Happy Swallowing!

> - in NC

>

>

>

> >

> > Good morning to all!well I had my myopthy surgery in april

matter of

> > fact they did the surgery on me two time and had to do some

> > recontrution too when they were doing the surgery .well affter

being

> > in the hospital for a month I have had my good days as well as

bad it

> > seems like i cant put back on any lbs and on sunday I had a

upchuck

> > day were I was in bad pain and in the morning I thew up a little

> blood

> > but most days im realy tried and just dont feel like doing

anythinf

> > afer work .what should i do should i go back to the doctors ?it

seems

> > to me life is getting a little hard for me not sure what to do

now im

> > not ready for another operation.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My personal advice is to tell them you do not beleive in vaccinations. I wish I

had all of the information on vaccinations as I do now, when my first child was

born. My youngest had a reaction and I started my research then, now I realize

all three of my children have suffered from various reactions. I just didn't

associate the symtoms with the vaccines. Do your research throughly so you can

live with the consequences of whatever decision you make. Lots of Luck_joanna:)

Vaccinations@...: cindylouwho_79@...: Mon, 15 Oct

2007 11:56:35 -0700Subject: need some advice

I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and I'm

wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a pediatrician, just so I

have someone to call afterhours, since my naturopath is not available

afterhours. Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or should

I say I want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified. Thanks.

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When I started taking my child to the ped I just told him I didn't

believe vaccines worked and thought they were dangerous. This leaves

room for too much arguing though. Just say it is against your

religious beliefs, I don't think doctors would touch that at all.

>

>

> My personal advice is to tell them you do not beleive in

vaccinations. I wish I had all of the information on vaccinations as

I do now, when my first child was born. My youngest had a reaction

and I started my research then, now I realize all three of my

children have suffered from various reactions. I just didn't

associate the symtoms with the vaccines. Do your research throughly

so you can live with the consequences of whatever decision you make.

Lots of Luck_joanna:)

>

>

> Vaccinations@...: cindylouwho_79@...: Mon, 15 Oct 2007

11:56:35 -0700Subject: need some advice

>

>

>

>

> I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and

I'm wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a

pediatrician, just so I have someone to call afterhours, since my

naturopath is not available afterhours. Should I say I my husband and

I don't believe in vaccines, or should I say I want to delay

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That's good

And some say they are delaying..........

Sheri

At 08:42 PM 10/15/2007 -0000, you wrote:

>When I started taking my child to the ped I just told him I didn't

>believe vaccines worked and thought they were dangerous. This leaves

>room for too much arguing though. Just say it is against your

>religious beliefs, I don't think doctors would touch that at all.

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> My personal advice is to tell them you do not beleive in

>vaccinations. I wish I had all of the information on vaccinations as

>I do now, when my first child was born. My youngest had a reaction

>and I started my research then, now I realize all three of my

>children have suffered from various reactions. I just didn't

>associate the symtoms with the vaccines. Do your research throughly

>so you can live with the consequences of whatever decision you make.

>Lots of Luck_joanna:)

>>

>>

>> Vaccinations@...: cindylouwho_79@...: Mon, 15 Oct 2007

>11:56:35 -0700Subject: need some advice

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and

>I'm wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a

>pediatrician, just so I have someone to call afterhours, since my

>naturopath is not available afterhours. Should I say I my husband and

>I don't believe in vaccines, or should I say I want to delay

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You can contact your ped after hours? Won't they just refer you to ER anyhow?

I don't know of any peds who give out their home number. Whereas I had

my homeopaths home number (when I had one).

LAurie

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YK, I wouldn’t put them on alert. I would just cross that bridge when

you come to it since you do have a naturopath to go to. And I would

leave it very closed doors… “we aren’t doing vaccines”.. they’ll ask

why.. you can again give them no where to go “because I have researched

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[Guest guest]

When I contacted my kids' pedi (which is now also my doctor) I asked where they

stood on vaccines. (doctor is holistic).

He asked why - I told him they were against my religious beliefs - he said,

okee dokee - sounds good to me.

I then asked if he reported to the state - to which he replied " nope " .

Problem solved.

I didn't want to give any phony answers because I wanted to be honest and

upfront prior to driving 75 miles to see him. Why do that when if I don't like

the answers, I can just call the next one on the list?

When first calling however, I did not give out my name - not until I was

comfortable.

We've been there almost 2 years - never had a problem.

I also have his home and cell number is case there's a problem - he's returned

my calls many times between 8-9 PM.

-----------------------------------------------

I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and I'm

wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a pediatrician, just so I

have someone to call afterhours, since my naturopath is not available

afterhours.

Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or should I say I

want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I just called and said- do you take patients that dont vaccinate and I found one

that did and that is where we go.? The first one we went to (I didnt ask)- told

me they wouldnt see us if we didnt vaccinate b/c they follow some protocol and

blah blah blah so we never went back there.? Like you- I just needed someone to

call in an emergency or after hours.? Our ped?doesnt bother me or pressure me

about vaccinating.?We only go to the 2 week check up for a weigh in- and thats

it.? Last time my son was there was b/c his elbow popped out of joint- and he

was 18 months old.? I have heard through the grapevine that several people that

dont vax go to our ped- he said to my chiropractors brother that word must have

got out about him b/c he is getting all the non vax kids lol.

Amy

Re:need some advice

When I contacted my kids' pedi (which is now also my doctor) I asked where they

stood on vaccines. (doctor is holistic).

He asked why - I told him they were against my religious beliefs - he said,

okee dokee - sounds good to me.

I then asked if he reported to the state - to which he replied " nope " .

Problem solved.

I didn't want to give any phony answers because I wanted to be honest and

upfront prior to driving 75 miles to see him. Why do that when if I don't like

the answers, I can just call the next one on the list?

When first calling however, I did not give out my name - not until I was

comfortable.

We've been there almost 2 years - never had a problem.

I also have his home and cell number is case there's a problem - he's returned

my calls many times between 8-9 PM.

-----------------------------------------------

I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and I'm

wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a pediatrician, just so I

have someone to call afterhours, since my naturopath is not available

afterhours.

Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or should I say I

want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

What I did was tell them that we would be delaying vaccinations, and

possibly not doing them at all. For a doctor, it's better to get it out

up-front, because you don't want to be pressured into anything at the

office itself. So, tell the truth as you see it.

Our ped. is available after hours - really, all the time. He was on

vacation when I called and asked a question. The receptionist felt it

was important enough to call him (I didn't, but, hey, that's OK), and he

called back within the hour. Some doctors are just worth their weight in

gold!

~Robyn

Hannon wrote:

> I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and

> I'm wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a

> pediatrician, just so I have someone to call afterhours, since my

> naturopath is not available afterhours.

>

> Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or should I

> say I want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified.

> Thanks.

>

> ---------------------------------

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> mail, news, photos & more.

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>

[Guest guest]

I just got off the phone with one pediatrician, and she refused to care for

children who weren't immunized. She asked me if I ever saw a baby with neonatal

tenatus. How would a baby even get tetanus is it can't survive in oxygen? I'm

assuming this is a scare tactic. At least I stood my ground...I have much to

look forward to with more interviews.

Algaveda@... wrote: I just called and said- do you take patients

that dont vaccinate and I found one that did and that is where we go.? The first

one we went to (I didnt ask)- told me they wouldnt see us if we didnt vaccinate

b/c they follow some protocol and blah blah blah so we never went back there.?

Like you- I just needed someone to call in an emergency or after hours.? Our

ped?doesnt bother me or pressure me about vaccinating.?We only go to the 2 week

check up for a weigh in- and thats it.? Last time my son was there was b/c his

elbow popped out of joint- and he was 18 months old.? I have heard through the

grapevine that several people that dont vax go to our ped- he said to my

chiropractors brother that word must have got out about him b/c he is getting

all the non vax kids lol.

Amy

Re:need some advice

When I contacted my kids' pedi (which is now also my doctor) I asked where they

stood on vaccines. (doctor is holistic).

He asked why - I told him they were against my religious beliefs - he said,

okee dokee - sounds good to me.

I then asked if he reported to the state - to which he replied " nope " .

Problem solved.

I didn't want to give any phony answers because I wanted to be honest and

upfront prior to driving 75 miles to see him. Why do that when if I don't like

the answers, I can just call the next one on the list?

When first calling however, I did not give out my name - not until I was

comfortable.

We've been there almost 2 years - never had a problem.

I also have his home and cell number is case there's a problem - he's returned

my calls many times between 8-9 PM.

-----------------------------------------------

I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and I'm

wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a pediatrician, just so I

have someone to call afterhours, since my naturopath is not available

afterhours.

Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or should I say I

want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

You should have asked her if SHE had ever personally seen a child

with neonatal tetanus, because I bet she hasn't. Because pretty much

the only place that happens is the 3rd world, where they don't always

sterilize utensils used to sever the umbilical cord at birth. Dumb

dumb dumb. -Angie

On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Hannon wrote:

> I just got off the phone with one pediatrician, and she refused to

> care for children who weren't immunized. She asked me if I ever saw

> a baby with neonatal tenatus. How would a baby even get tetanus is

> it can't survive in oxygen? I'm assuming this is a scare tactic. At

> least I stood my ground...I have much to look forward to with more

> interviews.

>

[Guest guest]

Really, you should just say it is against your religious beliefs.

People are too afraid to go against that.

That's what I'm going to say from now on and really, I'm not lying,

now that I know about the fetal tissue used in making some vaxes.

I just called and said- do you take

patients that dont vaccinate and I found one that did and that is

where we go.? The first one we went to (I didnt ask)- told me they

wouldnt see us if we didnt vaccinate b/c they follow some protocol

and blah blah blah so we never went back there.? Like you- I just

needed someone to call in an emergency or after hours.? Our ped?

doesnt bother me or pressure me about vaccinating.?We only go to the

2 week check up for a weigh in- and thats it.? Last time my son was

there was b/c his elbow popped out of joint- and he was 18 months

old.? I have heard through the grapevine that several people that

dont vax go to our ped- he said to my chiropractors brother that word

must have got out about him b/c he is getting all the non vax kids

lol.

> Amy

>

> Re:need some advice

>

> When I contacted my kids' pedi (which is now also my doctor) I

asked where they

> stood on vaccines. (doctor is holistic).

> He asked why - I told him they were against my religious beliefs -

he said,

> okee dokee - sounds good to me.

> I then asked if he reported to the state - to which he

replied " nope " .

> Problem solved.

> I didn't want to give any phony answers because I wanted to be

honest and

> upfront prior to driving 75 miles to see him. Why do that when if I

don't like

> the answers, I can just call the next one on the list?

> When first calling however, I did not give out my name - not until

I was

> comfortable.

> We've been there almost 2 years - never had a problem.

> I also have his home and cell number is case there's a problem -

he's returned

> my calls many times between 8-9 PM.

>

>

> -----------------------------------------------

> I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and

I'm

> wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a

pediatrician, just so I

> have someone to call afterhours, since my naturopath is not

available

> afterhours.

>

> Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or

should I say I

> want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified.

Thanks.

>

>

[Guest guest]

And ask her if she has ever seen a child with autism or asthma.

>

> > I just got off the phone with one pediatrician, and she refused

to

> > care for children who weren't immunized. She asked me if I ever

saw

> > a baby with neonatal tenatus. How would a baby even get tetanus

is

> > it can't survive in oxygen? I'm assuming this is a scare tactic.

At

> > least I stood my ground...I have much to look forward to with

more

> > interviews.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

many have stopped seeing peds because they realize if you don't want their

vaccines, there isn't much else you want that they ahve to offer - mostly

drug based.

Also try family practice doctors - they often are less obsessed with vaccines.

Many just use ER for afterhours Emergency things.

Sheri

>I just got off the phone with one pediatrician, and she refused to care

for children who weren't immunized. She asked me if I ever saw a baby with

neonatal tenatus. How would a baby even get tetanus is it can't survive in

oxygen? I'm assuming this is a scare tactic. At least I stood my ground...I

have much to look forward to with more interviews.

>

>Algaveda@... wrote: I just called and said- do you take

patients that dont vaccinate and I found one that did and that is where we

go.? The first one we went to (I didnt ask)- told me they wouldnt see us if

we didnt vaccinate b/c they follow some protocol and blah blah blah so we

never went back there.? Like you- I just needed someone to call in an

emergency or after hours.? Our ped?doesnt bother me or pressure me about

vaccinating.?We only go to the 2 week check up for a weigh in- and thats

it.? Last time my son was there was b/c his elbow popped out of joint- and

he was 18 months old.? I have heard through the grapevine that several

people that dont vax go to our ped- he said to my chiropractors brother

that word must have got out about him b/c he is getting all the non vax

kids lol.

>Amy

>

> Re:need some advice

>

>When I contacted my kids' pedi (which is now also my doctor) I asked where

they

>stood on vaccines. (doctor is holistic).

>He asked why - I told him they were against my religious beliefs - he said,

>okee dokee - sounds good to me.

>I then asked if he reported to the state - to which he replied " nope " .

>Problem solved.

>I didn't want to give any phony answers because I wanted to be honest and

>upfront prior to driving 75 miles to see him. Why do that when if I don't

like

>the answers, I can just call the next one on the list?

>When first calling however, I did not give out my name - not until I was

>comfortable.

>We've been there almost 2 years - never had a problem.

>I also have his home and cell number is case there's a problem - he's

returned

>my calls many times between 8-9 PM.

>

>

>-----------------------------------------------

>I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and I'm

>wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a pediatrician, just

so I

>have someone to call afterhours, since my naturopath is not available

>afterhours.

>

>Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or should I say I

>want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified. Thanks.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Exactly, Angie. I worked in obstetric and pediatric nursing for almost 10

years and never saw or heard anyone talk about a case of neonatal tetanus.

Kay

Re: Re:need some advice

> You should have asked her if SHE had ever personally seen a child

> with neonatal tetanus, because I bet she hasn't. Because pretty much

> the only place that happens is the 3rd world, where they don't always

> sterilize utensils used to sever the umbilical cord at birth. Dumb

> dumb dumb. -Angie

>

> On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Hannon wrote:

>

>> I just got off the phone with one pediatrician, and she refused to

>> care for children who weren't immunized. She asked me if I ever saw

>> a baby with neonatal tenatus. How would a baby even get tetanus is

>> it can't survive in oxygen? I'm assuming this is a scare tactic. At

>> least I stood my ground...I have much to look forward to with more

>> interviews.

[Guest guest]

>>>>I just got off the phone with one pediatrician,

and she refused to care for children who weren't

immunized. She asked me if I ever saw a baby with

neonatal tenatus. How would a baby even get tetanus is

it can't survive in oxygen? I'm assuming this is a

scare tactic. At least I stood my ground...I have much

to look forward to with more interviews. >>>

I had a baby book that described babies with tetanus

on their umbilical stump. I sweat for a while but

held my ground. Finally in my reading I discovered

that cases of tetanus in babies at the umbilical stump

are because the parents in third world countries had

covered the babies belly button with COW DUNG (cows

can be chronic carriers of tetanus, read CAN BE not

are). It is just another example of scare tactics

without the full information. If you aren't planning

on putting infected cow dung on your babies unhealed

belly button, don't worry about tetanus in an infant.

Diane

www.thoughtsfromaseamstress.com

" A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. "

Albert Einstein

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

See, it's too bad that there are so many bad eggs. Our ped is great. I

think it's important to have a regular health care practitioner (of

whatever cloth). I know my mom and our childhood ped became friends, and

she was devastated when the ped retired. From a medical standpoint, it's

useful to have a baseline - you go to the dr. to see if everything's

progressing apace. And there are so many things that babies and children

do, and so many questions to have answered, it's good to have someone

you trust there to help you. Using the emergency room is extremely

costly, especially if the issue isn't an emergency. We have a HUGE ER

deductible. Whereas I can call my ped pretty much whenever, and he (or

one of his associates, so far, we've always gotten him) will tell me if

I should worry or not, and what we should do. I just know our ped offers

SO MUCH more than drugs and vaccines.

Oh, and our family practitioner refused to take Jack if we weren't going

to vaccinate. He also told me " Stay off the Internet. " I haven't seen

him since. If I didn't love his receptionist so much, I'd be gone. A

good receptionist is probably just as important as a good doctor, in my

book.

~Robyn

Sheri Nakken wrote:

> many have stopped seeing peds because they realize if you don't want their

> vaccines, there isn't much else you want that they ahve to offer - mostly

> drug based.

> Also try family practice doctors - they often are less obsessed with

> vaccines.

>

> Many just use ER for afterhours Emergency things.

>

> Sheri

>

> >I just got off the phone with one pediatrician, and she refused to care

> for children who weren't immunized. She asked me if I ever saw a baby with

> neonatal tenatus. How would a baby even get tetanus is it can't survive in

> oxygen? I'm assuming this is a scare tactic. At least I stood my

> ground...I

> have much to look forward to with more interviews.

> >

> >Algaveda@... <mailto:Algaveda%40aol.com> wrote: I just called and

> said- do you take

> patients that dont vaccinate and I found one that did and that is where we

> go.? The first one we went to (I didnt ask)- told me they wouldnt see

> us if

> we didnt vaccinate b/c they follow some protocol and blah blah blah so we

> never went back there.? Like you- I just needed someone to call in an

> emergency or after hours.? Our ped?doesnt bother me or pressure me about

> vaccinating.?We only go to the 2 week check up for a weigh in- and thats

> it.? Last time my son was there was b/c his elbow popped out of joint- and

> he was 18 months old.? I have heard through the grapevine that several

> people that dont vax go to our ped- he said to my chiropractors brother

> that word must have got out about him b/c he is getting all the non vax

> kids lol.

> >Amy

> >

> > Re:need some advice

> >

> >When I contacted my kids' pedi (which is now also my doctor) I asked

> where

> they

> >stood on vaccines. (doctor is holistic).

> >He asked why - I told him they were against my religious beliefs - he

> said,

> >okee dokee - sounds good to me.

> >I then asked if he reported to the state - to which he replied " nope " .

> >Problem solved.

> >I didn't want to give any phony answers because I wanted to be honest

> and

> >upfront prior to driving 75 miles to see him. Why do that when if I don't

> like

> >the answers, I can just call the next one on the list?

> >When first calling however, I did not give out my name - not until I was

> >comfortable.

> >We've been there almost 2 years - never had a problem.

> >I also have his home and cell number is case there's a problem - he's

> returned

> >my calls many times between 8-9 PM.

> >

> >

> >-----------------------------------------------

> >I set up two phone interviews with two different pediatricians, and I'm

> >wondering how to approach the vaccine subject. I need a pediatrician,

> just

> so I

> >have someone to call afterhours, since my naturopath is not available

> >afterhours.

> >

> >Should I say I my husband and I don't believe in vaccines, or should

> I say I

> >want to delay vaccines? Please help a new mom...I'm terrified. Thanks.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Can ya homeschool? tailor-made education has its perks and plus, all the

concern would be out the window. Flu mist at school. Can I go throw up now?

Congratulations on the baby coming! ::sigh:: my baby is almost 1!!! Time

flies.

I'd get a list of everything they expect to do for the next 3 weeks and tell

them due to your concerns, she'll be staying home. I bet she's ahead of

everyone at the end of 3 weeks.

Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 15, Jon 14, 11, 9,

7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 2/3/08

http://momof6.dotphoto.com <http://momof6.dotphoto.com/> for not

necessarily current pictures and http://nitasspot.blogspot.com

Come, PLAY!! http://www.discoverytoyslink.com/nitagarner

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough

to make them all yourself.

[Guest guest]

Actually, the risk of transmission with this particular virus is up to

21 days. If you are truly concerned, I would keep her out of school

for 1 mo.

(http://www.vaccineinfo.net/immunization/vaccine/influenza/flumist_vacci

ne_risks.shtml)

>

> Hello everyone!! I really need some advice on how to handle a

> situation at my daughter's school. My daughter is in elementary

> school and I am pregnant. I do not vaccinate either of my two

> children. They sent home a letter today stating that the week of the

> 26th they will be offering and administering free flu mist

> vaccinations to all the students who are interested. I'm sure I do not

> need to tell any of you that the Flu Mist is a live vaccine that can

> shed for up to 2 weeks and that pregnant women should not be near it.

> I immediately called the principal and informed her of my situation.

> She said she will take to the assistant superintendent but that she

> thinks it should be ok to keep my daughter out of school that week due

> to the health concern. The only problem is that it can be shed for up

> to 2 weeks after and they are administering it all week long. I can't

> imagine keeping her out of school for 3 weeks. I am unsure what to do.

> Any advice??

>