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THE SUNDAY TIMES: NEWS

22 June 1997

Vaccine clue found to Gulf war syndrome

by Hugh McManners, Defence Correspondent

BRITISH scientists believe they have pinpointed a medical

cause for Gulf war syndrome in a breakthrough which could force

the Ministry of Defence into paying tens of millions of pounds in

compensation.

Immunologists at University College London say they have for

the first time established how vaccinations given to troops in

the war against Iraq, combined with exposure to insecticides,

could cause the symptoms afflicting many hundreds of British

veterans.

The MoD, which has always denied that the syndrome has a

single medical explanation, will test the hypothesis as part of

the programme of epidemiological studies announced by the

Conservative government earlier this year.

If the theory to be published this week in the Lancet

medical journal proves correct, it will open the door to massive

compensation claims from veterans. For six years, former soldiers

have battled to prove that the drug cocktails they were given to

protect them against disease and chemical weapons were to blame

for their illnesses.

Professor Graham Rook and Dr Alimuddin Zumla, who made the

breakthrough, also believe that their work could lead to an

effective treatment for Gulf war syndrome using drugs already on

the market.

Rook said this weekend that the effect of the vaccinations

combined with insecticides had been devastating. The drug

cocktails suppressed one part of the body's immune system, known

as Th1, which combats viruses and cancers.

At the same time Th2, a part of the immune system which

normally reacts mildly against pollen or house dust mites, was

made hypersensitive to outside irritants.

This double effect meant that soldiers were more likely to

succumb to common diseases, while also suffering extreme allergic

reactions to harmless elements in the atmosphere.

" A systematic shift towards Th2 leads to patients developing

more diseases, particularly chronic virus infections, as their

Th1 protection is diminished, " said Rook.

" There is also an increase in allergic symptoms prompted by

increases in Th2 reactions, and mood changes which we can

attribute to the corresponding changes in their hormone and

cytokine levels. This explains the extraordinary diversity of

symptoms seen in Gulf war veterans. "

Many of the vaccines given to British and American troops in

the Gulf, including cholera, anthrax and bubonic plague, are

believed to cause the precise immune system changes described by

Rook.

French troops, who did not receive the same massive drug

cocktails as their American and British counterparts, have not

suffered the same incidence of Gulf war syndrome.

British soldiers often received several vaccinations at

once, without proper records being kept: many erroneously received

more than one dose of each.

The new medical study has been hailed by campaigners as a

landmark in securing a fair deal for the 1,500 British veterans

who are afflicted. Terry English, of the Royal British Legion,

which has advised most of the sick British Gulf war veterans,

said the soldiers who claimed they had been made ill serving

their country appeared to be vindicated.

" This is the first time that anybody has come up with a

sound scientific basis for the veterans' suspicions which also

accounts for all their symptoms, " he said.

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In a message dated 3/1/00 10:42:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

onelist writes:

<< besides there is a special bonding when two people are fighting the same

enemy...

So, feel free to post a " lonely heart CFIDS male " advertisement on the

list... ;-)

>>

I know this comment was made partly in jest, but I know a 47 year old female

w/ CFS

who lives just north of L.A. who is by herself but would like some

companionship.

It would be nice to be able to get some of these folks together. But with

limited

energy and mobility, a " date " might take weeks to months to arrange.

Anyone have any ideas?

Mike

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Starting a disability dating list? Also for fees, there are dating

services for CFS on About.com. Also some time back, SASY was trying to

start such a service, but don't know what is happening with that now.Since

ill people get financially strapped it would be nice to have free service.

Would be interested here.

Any more ideas? Christie

At 06:44 PM 3/2/00 EST, you wrote:

>From: mcamp10139@...

>

>In a message dated 3/1/00 10:42:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>onelist writes:

>

><< besides there is a special bonding when two people are fighting the same

>enemy...

>

> So, feel free to post a " lonely heart CFIDS male " advertisement on the

>list... ;-)

> >>

>

>I know this comment was made partly in jest, but I know a 47 year old female

>w/ CFS

>who lives just north of L.A. who is by herself but would like some

>companionship.

>It would be nice to be able to get some of these folks together. But with

>limited

>energy and mobility, a " date " might take weeks to months to arrange.

>Anyone have any ideas?

>

>Mike

>

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I thought I saw something like this on the " listening to CFIDS " home page. Go

here at look at " pals and relationships " . I have never tried to get into this

section but it might be interesting:

http://wwcoco.com/cfids/toc.html

" C.Tab. " wrote:

> From: " C.Tab. " <tab@...>

>

> Starting a disability dating list? Also for fees, there are dating

> services for CFS on About.com. Also some time back, SASY was trying to

> start such a service, but don't know what is happening with that now.Since

> ill people get financially strapped it would be nice to have free service.

> Would be interested here.

> Any more ideas? Christie

>

> At 06:44 PM 3/2/00 EST, you wrote:

> >From: mcamp10139@...

> >

> >In a message dated 3/1/00 10:42:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> >onelist writes:

> >

> ><< besides there is a special bonding when two people are fighting the same

> >enemy...

> >

> > So, feel free to post a " lonely heart CFIDS male " advertisement on the

> >list... ;-)

> > >>

> >

> >I know this comment was made partly in jest, but I know a 47 year old female

> >w/ CFS

> >who lives just north of L.A. who is by herself but would like some

> >companionship.

> >It would be nice to be able to get some of these folks together. But with

> >limited

> >energy and mobility, a " date " might take weeks to months to arrange.

> >Anyone have any ideas?

> >

> >Mike

> >

> >------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR!

> >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as

> >0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees.

> >Apply NOW!

> >1/2121/2/_/531724/_/952040699/

> >------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

> other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

> >

> >

>

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> PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR!

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>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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It is neat ! As you know you need to have certain browsers and formats to see different features (like music or moving stationary). People choose different things. I love 3D. It has a real cool effect.

I have only been doing graphics for two months so am new to this medium. All graphics on my site are courtesy of way more talented people than me! *S*

http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/location/5712/index.html

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Sure now you had to make me see if I could do one :op ahaha

here is my test let me know what ya think. :o]

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several of yours, up to 3 days old, are coming through this morning,

.

I do not know what is happening, but several lists seem to be burping this

weekend, and around me, an hour west of Boston, hub of the Universe, it is

raining, trees are falling, rivers are overflowing, roads are flooded out,

airport towers are falling down, and even the red sox have been rained

out....so...

even the cyber world is secondary to the weather...Joanie

(hey...happy birthday last week to and to the rest of us April

birthday babes!)

>i haven't seen any of my emails come through as of late. Any ideas what's

>happening, if anything?

>, Seattle

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I received this message. Haven't seen others though!

in PA

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Please respond if anyone sees this post....

I have been typing my heart out and none of my posts

get delivered to ocd and parenting. I keep getting

my posts back with a message that I am not subscribed

to the group. Help!!

thanks!

mary from La.

you may reply to my email address so that we don't

clog up the list with replies.

You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the

body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe

to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at

parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the

files, links, and archives for our list at

http://www.egoups.com/group/ . Subscription issues,

problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at

harkins@... .

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I got the same results as you did, Aisha! LOL GO FIGURE!!!

Krissy

Like just 11% of the population you are a HELPER WHO FINDS MISSING CHILDREN

OVER THE INTERNET (SICF). You are very tentative in the world and

introverted with people--which means you are the shy and silent type. Hence

the Internet. But behind your reserved exterior lies a dedicated person with

a passion for the concrete truth who wants to, in his heart of hearts, help

find missing children. God bless you.

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Melinda,

I'm getting it, hon. :)

Sprague wrote:

> Just seing if my email is actually getting to the list.

> Melinda

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no ive been gettins some but not all messages double too. I think egroups

has the hiccups lol..

Shaye

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this is a test....before I send anything else today I have to make sure I'm

not sending everything double LOL

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In a message dated 1/26/2001 8:31:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> What's she going to do with it? Feed it to the cat? Release into the wild?

> Eat it? What???

>

She is playing with it and having a blast. It's dead. She just thew it up

towards me..egads. I have to get it away from her before she diembowels

it...gross! I've never seen her play with anything like she is with this

poor thing. I'm so proud of her today :)

ps just tossed it into the trash

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In a message dated 1/26/01 7:17:43 AM Central Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> 2+2=??

>

> Chiquita got her first mouse today!! YIPPPEEE

OK I could have done without that info LOL I watched Stuart (again)

last night with Sara Heehee

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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In a message dated 1/26/01 7:42:31 AM Central Standard Time,

c1ndysue1@... writes:

>

> > What's she going to do with it? Feed it to the cat? Release into the

wild?

> > Eat it? What???

> >

>

> She is playing with it and having a blast. It's dead. She just thew it

up

> towards me..egads. I have to get it away from her before she diembowels

> it...gross! I've never seen her play with anything like she is with this

> poor thing. I'm so proud of her today :)

>

>

Ugggggggg and we have more???? lololol

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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When I was pregnant with and youngest son was barely out of

diapers, we moved into a new home. We had a cat named Pookah. For a week

after the move, Pookah began bringing me gifts of dead wharf rats and laying

them at my feet. I loved that cat!

granny

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" Beautiful that war and all its deeds of carnage must

in time be utterly lost. " -- Walt Whitman

http://home.earthlink.net/~bspyle

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> In a message dated 1/26/2001 8:31:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> bspyle@... writes:

>

>

> > What's she going to do with it? Feed it to the cat? Release into the

wild?

> > Eat it? What???

> >

>

> She is playing with it and having a blast. It's dead. She just thew it

up

> towards me..egads. I have to get it away from her before she diembowels

> it...gross! I've never seen her play with anything like she is with this

> poor thing. I'm so proud of her today :)

>

>

>

> ps just tossed it into the trash

>

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In a message dated 1/26/2001 7:30:54 AM Central Standard Time,

bspyle@... writes:

<< What's she going to do with it? Feed it to the cat? Release into the wild?

Eat it? What???

granny, ducking

---

>>

Here I Thought Chicita was the cat. snicker. :-) but what she will do is

leave it half eaten in the middle of the kitchen floor, for mommy to find

with her foot in the morning. :-Þ

Joy

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