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Sounds like a ridiculous plan, . I wouldn't be interested if it were me.

I know with Ry I preferred him receiving those services in an " inclusive "

environment, not separate and alone.

Glad to hear you are done (on Monday). I've been in my margarita mode for the

last 3 weeks and lovin every minute of it....especially as I'm pulling my

paycheck out of my mailbox with my other hand!

Jackie

> OK- this should stir up a conversation.

>

> Here in the big apple, today was the last day of school for the kids

> (teachers have to go on Monday- ugh!)

>

> The NYC DOE decided that for all the kids who didnt receive services this

> past year, due to a shortage of providers, services will be offered during the

> summer- so will receive OT and PT during the summer. That's gonna cut

in

> on beach time, to say the least!

>

> Do they really think that offering the services as an after thought will be

> enough to keep all the NYC parents quiet?

>

> Its so tricky for me since I am also an employee- its like trying to fight

> with my employer!

>

> We'll be on summer/beach/margarita mode for a while.

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We go back August 3rd...doesn't that just stink!

Karla in stupid Texas :-)

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In a message dated 6/25/2004 4:20:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

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> Glad to hear you are done (on Monday

Oh my goodness. We are half way done with our summer. My 15 yr old just

finished his summer school classes. We are trying to figure out what we'll

have

time to fit in before school starts when we get back from our vacation.

School starts Aug 10 here.

It's so funny to hear that you are just getting out!

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OHHH , I don't think it would shut ME up. Then very little does. LOL My

mother tells everyone that I learned to talk at 12 months old and haven't shut

up since:)) This year was employed by the same school system AND the very

same school attended. That is no longer the case. Neither of us felt

comfortable making waves. I'm glad that we are not going to have to worry since

the schools are different even if the system is the same. We can go as parents.

Elaine

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OK- this should stir up a conversation.

Here in the big apple, today was the last day of school for the kids

(teachers have to go on Monday- ugh!)

The NYC DOE decided that for all the kids who didnt receive services this

past year, due to a shortage of providers, services will be offered during the

summer- so will receive OT and PT during the summer. That's gonna cut

in

on beach time, to say the least!

Do they really think that offering the services as an after thought will be

enough to keep all the NYC parents quiet?

Its so tricky for me since I am also an employee- its like trying to fight

with my employer!

We'll be on summer/beach/margarita mode for a while.

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WE'RE NOT ALL ON HOLIDAY!! Sniff, sob, whinge moan.

As the rain beats down here in the UK in the middle of flaming June I should

be grateful we're not on holiday I guess! We still have 4 weeks of school

left and I have three of college, including 4 'serial' days in school as a

prelude to my teaching practice next term. then we're into our 6 week break,

can't wait, I love nothing better than a lie in (til 7.30am anyway) and hate

the alarm clock!

I made the mistake of being over heard booking our first summer holiday in 6

years by Tim. This was last september, he has asked me on an almost daily

basis " Go France now, holiday? " Sigh, only 6 more weeks to suffer this

questioning and then he'll be asking 'when we go home'?!! My big kids are

off to see their dad in a couple of weeks, before tim breaks up from school.

Hopefully he will get a week of fun and sun with 'KIDS@ an organisation that

works with kids with SEN. He had a blast last year, then its off to sunny

france for 16 days, sun, sand, pools, tents and my sister for adult company,

should be brill. The anticipation is almost better than the real thing!

sue wong

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>

> > I was thinking the same thing last night, Where is everybody, we used

to

> be

> > hopping ahere, what is going on ? To many end of the year school

> functions?

> > Lets start an interesting thread here, anybody got any ideas?

> >

> > Loree

> >

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Your post made me laugh, Sue. is the same way with the questions. We

always try to wait until the day before to tell him things, that way we only

have 24 hours with the questions! We just got back last week from a week at the

beach and everyday he would walk in while I was still half asleep and the

conversation would go, " Mom, what day is it today? , you know what day it

is. Oh, yeah, Mom, today is Monday, right? Yes, . Mom, Monday, Tuesday,

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, GO HOME, 1013 (our address)!!!! Yes,

......what, aren't you having fun at the beach? Oh, yeah, Mom, but I be

happy at 1013. What time will I be happy on Saturday? " Every morning, the same

thing. He absolutely kills me!

Despite his wanting to be at home, he does have a good time and goes with the

flow very nicely. I'm sure he wonders why it is we need to go away when he is

perfectly happy in his home. LOL. If only I could get inside his head. That

would be a wish I would love to be granted!

Jackie, Mom to 16ds, 13, Bradley 10

> WE'RE NOT ALL ON HOLIDAY!! Sniff, sob, whinge moan.

> As the rain beats down here in the UK in the middle of flaming June I should

> be grateful we're not on holiday I guess! We still have 4 weeks of school

> left and I have three of college, including 4 'serial' days in school as a

> prelude to my teaching practice next term. then we're into our 6 week break,

> can't wait, I love nothing better than a lie in (til 7.30am anyway) and hate

> the alarm clock!

>

> I made the mistake of being over heard booking our first summer holiday in 6

> years by Tim. This was last september, he has asked me on an almost daily

> basis " Go France now, holiday? " Sigh, only 6 more weeks to suffer this

> questioning and then he'll be asking 'when we go home'?!! My big kids are

> off to see their dad in a couple of weeks, before tim breaks up from school.

> Hopefully he will get a week of fun and sun with 'KIDS@ an organisation that

> works with kids with SEN. He had a blast last year, then its off to sunny

> france for 16 days, sun, sand, pools, tents and my sister for adult company,

> should be brill. The anticipation is almost better than the real thing!

>

> sue wong

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> >

> >

> > > I was thinking the same thing last night, Where is everybody, we used

> to

> > be

> > > hopping ahere, what is going on ? To many end of the year school

> > functions?

> > > Lets start an interesting thread here, anybody got any ideas?

> > >

> > > Loree

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Sounds absolutely heavenly. I bought a book on Tuscany and one of Provence. I

would love to visit the UK. I'd also love to visit Ireland and meet that

incredible reporter who gave you know who a hard time. LOL All I get is

stinking DC which I have seen a dozen times. I should be happy I get a vacation

at all. Though it does remind of me of when I was a kid and Mother would try to

force rutabagas down my unwilling throat and remind me that kinds in (name a

country) are starving, so you should eat. LOL

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>

> > I was thinking the same thing last night, Where is everybody, we used

to

> be

> > hopping ahere, what is going on ? To many end of the year school

> functions?

> > Lets start an interesting thread here, anybody got any ideas?

> >

> > Loree

> >

> >

> >

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does that too. He gets positively obsessive about things that are fun.

This week it was all about the swim meet with and staying in the " hotel. "

He calls every motel and inn a hotel. He also refers to dorm rooms by that

description. We better not talk about the 3 day Special Olympics camp until

July 16, the day before.

Elaine

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> >

> > > I was thinking the same thing last night, Where is everybody, we used

> to

> > be

> > > hopping ahere, what is going on ? To many end of the year school

> > functions?

> > > Lets start an interesting thread here, anybody got any ideas?

> > >

> > > Loree

> > >

> > >

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Has it been quite, I seems to have gotten alot of mail in the past few days.

:-)

Well I've been off touring SD (we were planning on the UP in Michigan but

weather forcasts called for cool and rain, same along the Mississippi so we went

west ) on my motorcycle, left last Mon. jsut got back today.....oh my aching

knees. LOL

The Black Hills area is fun, hairpin turns, even ones that kept spiroling down

(ugh) everyone else enjoyed them, I was like crap this is a spirol not a

hairpin. hehe.

Oh and the flat tire this morning (which required removing the wheel and taking

into a town to have fixed). I really thought it was the road, ya know? Quite

exciting really, lol, I told the hubby to be thankful for small blessings, at

least it wasn't out in the middle of the grasslands where theres nothing for

miles and miles and miles and ......well you get the idea.

The bad part is I have to go back to work on Mon. :-(

just finished her summer school program, she had a great time. She's going

to Camp Sertoma with her older sister as her personal assistant in the middle of

July, then hopefully we'll take a short trip the last week of July since I have

that off to.

We begin working with our assigned signing mentor in a couple of weeks so that

should be interesting to.

It would be nice if Jeff does get a kit to turn his Venture into a trike, then

we can hopefully take along without having to worry so much about her

falling asleep on the back of the bike, I keep trying to talk Jeff into getting

a sidecar, he's against it. hehe.

Well everyone enjoy your breaks, even if you don't get anywhere. :-)

Joy

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I was thinking the same thing last night, Where is everybody, we used to be

hopping ahere, what is going on ? To many end of the year school functions?

Lets start an interesting thread here, anybody got any ideas?

Loree

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Hey Jan, can be bribed with school also! He loves going there! He says he

doesn't like Fridays because Saturday " no school. " Smiling is all I can do to

keep my sanity some days!

Something cute here, one of the days we were at the beach last week I was laying

on a towel with my youngest and we were watching play catch with his

brother and we were talking about how athletic is. I said to

Bradley, " I often wonder what kind of school athlete could have been if he

wouldn't have been born with DS. " Than I went on to ask him, " Do you think our

family would be different if didn't have DS? " Bradley said, " I don't

think we would laugh and have fun as much. " This puzzled me so I asked him what

he meant. He said, " makes us laugh all the time. He says funny things and

we all have learned real funny lines to say from watching all his videos with

him. " What a thing to say! - I didn't know what to say at that very moment.

It made me think about things from Bradley's 10 yr. old perspective. He truly

loves our family, obviously, and sees no " burden. " He loves his brother because

he makes him laugh......most days!

That night in bed in Stone Harbor I reflected on this small exchange I had with

my son on the beach and realized how unique we are....and it's a good thing!

Jackie, Mom to 16ds, 13, and Bradley 10

> Thanks Jackie and Sue for the laugh - it is so nice to know that

> you are not the only one going slightly insane with the continual

> question. In our case, it is either calling for the one person of

> the family who isn't home - ie. home ( doesn't live at

> home anymore) will let him phone him, for to just get - " home

> now " but the more frustrating one is everynight (generally I

> go to bed first) he comes down to say goodnight and we go through

> the same thing, over and over - School - Clare, bus frog shop -

> (meaning he is going to school to be with his friends, will go by

> bus with his sister Shannen and will get the bus at the shop) - we

> can go on with crossing at the school crossing, and wanting to

> travel on his own school bus. This little conversation is repeated

> several times each night.

> Holidays - the words holiday or Queensland only has to be mentioned

> and he is off - sometimes getting the case out ready to go! We

> listen to the weather channel for long periods of the day, and when

> they give the forcast out for Queensland again he gets excited.

> Trent loves his school and he is the only person we know of, that

> you can bribe with - do it know or behave etc., if you want to go to

> school tomorrow - don't know how many people have mentioned they

> would love to have that bribe with their kids!!!

> Just imagine how dull our lives would be without them

> Keep smiling

>

> Jan - mother of Trent 19yo w/DS - from the Land of Oz.

>

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Hi Joy--

Loved your story...made me miss my bike. We went to the Harley rally in

Sturgis, SD in 1990--what a great experience and it was so beautiful!! I

hope to get another bike...someday. Does ride on the back of your

bike? I think Mac would love it, but I worry about sliding off the

side--like he tends to do on a horse--I never thought about the falling

asleep part. I wish they made booster seat type things...maybe something

similar to the backseat of some dressers with a sissy bar and then a wrap

around the sides part way would work.

Enjoy your summer!!

Jill

Mom to Mac & Kit

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>

> I was thinking the same thing last night, Where is everybody, we used to

be

> hopping ahere, what is going on ? To many end of the year school

functions?

> Lets start an interesting thread here, anybody got any ideas?

>

> Loree

>

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What about a side car?

I think they look so fun and on top of that, they help keep the motorcyle

stable!

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In a message dated 6/27/2004 4:04:04 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> And there was me worrying he'd never talk!!

>

I love hearing this though cause it gives me hope for a non-stop talker

someday that will drive me nuts lol!!

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Hi Jill,

actually rides behind her dad on his old Yamaha Venture.

My idea was to find some arm rests for it, but it's to old, then another idea

was to make some. Since he bought a Valkyrie last fall he kept the old one so

we could go on short local rides and she could still come with us, there is

nothing much but a seat and a sissy bar on the valkyrie.

Just the other day he made the comment that he'd maybe try to see if he can find

a kit and make the Yamaha into a trike. That might be better then the arm

rests, then I wouldn't have to work so hard to plan some of my vacation time for

when she's at her summer school program. :-) BTW, I wasn't around when he

took her into town the first time on the back of his motorcycle, my reacttion

was 'are you crazy???'. She loves it, but there is the hypnotic part that does

cause you to get tired sitting back there so we really can't take very long

rides with her. She liked to take one of her spatulas with (the rubber ones)

until she dropped it and daddy didn't turn back so she could get it, at least

she didn't try to get off, but the bad part is it was easier to tell if she

needed to get off and walk around a little bit with the spatula. He has had

her on his Valkyrie for a ride over to her sisters about two miles down the

road, again I think he was crazy. LOL

is 14 and this is something she/we first tried about a year ago so I'm sure

as he gets older Mac'll get better at staying on things like horses and such and

you might get to get back to riding. :-) You could always get a side car.

(dh gave a definate no to that tho, lol, but it might be easier to get one of

those for the Venture then to convert it to a trike.)

Joy

I think Mac would love it, but I worry about sliding off the

side--like he tends to do on a horse--I never thought about the falling

asleep part. I wish they made booster seat type things...maybe something

similar to the backseat of some dressers with a sissy bar and then a wrap

around the sides part way would work.

Enjoy your summer!!

Jill

Mom to Mac & Kit

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When tim gets up in the morning he asks for his TA Mrs A**, the first thing

he says EVERY SINGLE NIGHT after school is " I go home now, I have tea " , like

every night I hear this and have I ever forgotton to feed him? well maybe

once or twice, but not enough to make a child that insecure about being fed

regularly!

And when we get home he always asks " where naomi " " where Ben " , like they

don't go to school too and have done since before he was even born let alone

came to live here with us. Where does he think they're going to be?! And I

can't wait for them to go visit their dad and answer the where they gone

questions ad nauseum day in day out! But at least he has more or less

stopped that awful toddler " why " phase!

And there was me worrying he'd never talk!!

Sue WOng

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> Thanks Jackie and Sue for the laugh - it is so nice to know that

> you are not the only one going slightly insane with the continual

> question. In our case, it is either calling for the one person of

> the family who isn't home - ie. home ( doesn't live at

> home anymore) will let him phone him, for to just get - " home

> now " but the more frustrating one is everynight (generally I

> go to bed first) he comes down to say goodnight and we go through

> the same thing, over and over - School - Clare, bus frog shop -

> (meaning he is going to school to be with his friends, will go by

> bus with his sister Shannen and will get the bus at the shop) - we

> can go on with crossing at the school crossing, and wanting to

> travel on his own school bus. This little conversation is repeated

> several times each night.

> Holidays - the words holiday or Queensland only has to be mentioned

> and he is off - sometimes getting the case out ready to go! We

> listen to the weather channel for long periods of the day, and when

> they give the forcast out for Queensland again he gets excited.

> Trent loves his school and he is the only person we know of, that

> you can bribe with - do it know or behave etc., if you want to go to

> school tomorrow - don't know how many people have mentioned they

> would love to have that bribe with their kids!!!

> Just imagine how dull our lives would be without them

> Keep smiling

>

> Jan - mother of Trent 19yo w/DS - from the Land of Oz.

>

>

>

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also asks the Where is game. And if you ask him, he knows were

everyone is! He also goes through his daily schedule several times a day -

lord forbid if something occurs out of order! He's never asked the " Why "

question - I wish he would.

We upped his medication this past week and it's been a rough few days. We

are going to ask the doctor to put him back on the old meds for now. His

appetite has increased and he just wants to graze all day long.

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>

> > Thanks Jackie and Sue for the laugh - it is so nice to know that

> > you are not the only one going slightly insane with the continual

> > question. In our case, it is either calling for the one person of

> > the family who isn't home - ie. home ( doesn't live at

> > home anymore) will let him phone him, for to just get - " home

> > now " but the more frustrating one is everynight (generally I

> > go to bed first) he comes down to say goodnight and we go through

> > the same thing, over and over - School - Clare, bus frog shop -

> > (meaning he is going to school to be with his friends, will go by

> > bus with his sister Shannen and will get the bus at the shop) - we

> > can go on with crossing at the school crossing, and wanting to

> > travel on his own school bus. This little conversation is repeated

> > several times each night.

> > Holidays - the words holiday or Queensland only has to be mentioned

> > and he is off - sometimes getting the case out ready to go! We

> > listen to the weather channel for long periods of the day, and when

> > they give the forcast out for Queensland again he gets excited.

> > Trent loves his school and he is the only person we know of, that

> > you can bribe with - do it know or behave etc., if you want to go to

> > school tomorrow - don't know how many people have mentioned they

> > would love to have that bribe with their kids!!!

> > Just imagine how dull our lives would be without them

> > Keep smiling

> >

> > Jan - mother of Trent 19yo w/DS - from the Land of Oz.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

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I'd like to think that someday Mac (and Kit) will be able to ride behind

someone. I'm sure they will for short distances, but maybe not for too long.

He loves motorcycles and knows where the " shop " is when we drive by...he has

quite a collections of motorcycle collectibles too.

With as many people riding that there are now you'd think they would have come

up with a babyseat type of thing for children (NOT babies). If we ever REALLY

get into it we may have to look into a trike or sidecar.

Jill

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Hi Jill,

actually rides behind her dad on his old Yamaha Venture.

My idea was to find some arm rests for it, but it's to old, then another idea

was to make some. Since he bought a Valkyrie last fall he kept the old one so

we could go on short local rides and she could still come with us, there is

nothing much but a seat and a sissy bar on the valkyrie.

Just the other day he made the comment that he'd maybe try to see if he can

find a kit and make the Yamaha into a trike. That might be better then the arm

rests, then I wouldn't have to work so hard to plan some of my vacation time for

when she's at her summer school program. :-) BTW, I wasn't around when he

took her into town the first time on the back of his motorcycle, my reacttion

was 'are you crazy???'. She loves it, but there is the hypnotic part that does

cause you to get tired sitting back there so we really can't take very long

rides with her. She liked to take one of her spatulas with (the rubber ones)

until she dropped it and daddy didn't turn back so she could get it, at least

she didn't try to get off, but the bad part is it was easier to tell if she

needed to get off and walk around a little bit with the spatula. He has had

her on his Valkyrie for a r ide over to her sisters about two miles down the

road, again I think he was crazy. LOL

is 14 and this is something she/we first tried about a year ago so I'm

sure as he gets older Mac'll get better at staying on things like horses and

such and you might get to get back to riding. :-) You could always get a side

car. (dh gave a definate no to that tho, lol, but it might be easier to get one

of those for the Venture then to convert it to a trike.)

Joy

I think Mac would love it, but I worry about sliding off the

side--like he tends to do on a horse--I never thought about the falling

asleep part. I wish they made booster seat type things...maybe something

similar to the backseat of some dressers with a sissy bar and then a wrap

around the sides part way would work.

Enjoy your summer!!

Jill

Mom to Mac & Kit

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Yeah...I think I " d like a sidecar over a trike. Someday...maybe...it sure is a

fun hobby.

Jill

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What about a side car?

I think they look so fun and on top of that, they help keep the motorcyle

stable!

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A friend of mine who has an adult son with spina bifida had an

experience with this once. He loves Harley's (as does ) and they were

visiting a relative who had one. With help they strapped on behind the

" driver " so he couldn't possibly fall off. His legs were strapped down some

way

and everything. They took off and were gone almost an hour and she was a

basket case by then but they whizzed by and stopped long enough to tell her they

were going again. And were a long time again. It was the thrill of his life.

It was fine as long as nothing happened but if the bike had fallen over for

any reason or been hit---well, think of the things that could happen, as she

did. But he came back safe and happy. I'm not sure I'd have survived that

either. Several people have told they would find someone with a side

car to take him for a ride but none has ever turned up. He has Harley stuff all

over the place, many models plus clothes, and a Harley clock (starts one up

every hour), a lamp, almost anything you could think of except a real Harley.

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I'm shocked Tim hasn't made a comment about this thread and the moms on this

list!

No motorcycles at this house (though Tim would love to have one),

does love riding in TJ's corvette with the top off. It's one sure way of

getting him to settle down if he's having a bad day.

Tim and I are thinking of getting mountain bikes. The trailor idea sounds

good. We have a bike trail really close to our house that goes all the way

into DC. Snoop and I sometimes walk it with our friends (his and mine!).

Well, I'm off to work.........Have a good day!

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Everytime I read a book about someone who moves abroad and starts a new life

I start calculating whether we could do the same if we cashed everything

out. " Under the Tuscan Sun " " From Paris to the Moon " , etc. Unfortunately

cashing out wouldn't get us very far. Last year at this time I'd just

returned from a trip to Japan, now I'm hoping that we can take the family

down to Mesa Verde (we live in Denver). Personally, I'm way jealous of your

trips to DC, having banned myself from travel books I've begun an American

history reading jag ( " Alice Roosevelt Longworth " " All The Presidents'

Children " " Lucy " " Washington's Crossing " " The Day Lincoln Died " ) and would

love to see the sights. There is a UK company that rents out villas in

Italy, I have the catalog with pictures and descriptions and linger lovingly

over it during the winter months...

(Have I mentioned that we've had weeks and weeks of rain here in Colorado?

Normally it's 90s or 100s but this year no such luck. In my wicked way it

comforts me to know that those lucky stiffs who get the summer off won't be

any more tan than I am.)

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Sounds absolutely heavenly. I bought a book on Tuscany and one of Provence.

I would love to visit the UK. I'd also love to visit Ireland and meet that

incredible reporter who gave you know who a hard time. LOL All I get is

stinking DC which I have seen a dozen times. I should be happy I get a

vacation at all. Though it does remind of me of when I was a kid and Mother

would try to force rutabagas down my unwilling throat and remind me that

kinds in (name a country) are starving, so you should eat. LOL

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>

>

> > I was thinking the same thing last night, Where is everybody, we used

to

> be

> > hopping ahere, what is going on ? To many end of the year school

> functions?

> > Lets start an interesting thread here, anybody got any ideas?

> >

> > Loree

> >

> >

> >

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I can't post either

Di

Test

Hi, just testing as I am receiving messages, but cannot post. Sue &

Alyssa

Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

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For som ereason these meails arent coming thru to my email address-

even tho I have re-subbed myself tot he list

Pls fix it :)

>

> --

> Aussie Leis- mum to BJ - nearly 7 yrs- ds, Natasha 2.5 yrs and

11 months

>

> " Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out

and remove all doubt. "

>

> Abraham Lincoln

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Phew it's back! I posted that message at 6:00 or so this morning!

There were no messages at all on the website and only error messages

everywhere! (But, go figure, the pictures were still available)

Laurie

> No problems here.

>

>

>

> Fiona Young-Brown

>

> Kentish Maid Candles

>

>

>

> <http://www.kentishmaidcandles.com> www.kentishmaidcandles.com

>

>

>

> " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter. "

> - Luther King

>

> test

>

>

>

> Where have all the messages gone? Is everyone else having the same

problem?

> There are no messages on the website!

>

> Laurie

>

>

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I got this one!

Grace

God is good, all the time.

All the time, God is good.

>From: " Laurie " <lauriesmith@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: test

>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:54:44 -0500

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>2005 18:21:13 -0000

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>Where have all the messages gone? Is everyone else having the same problem?

>There are no messages on the website!

>

>Laurie

>

>

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