Re: Re: Using Lugol's topically rather then internally

[Guest guest]

So do you think if she puts a little on the inside of her wrist rather then ingesting the lugol's , would it screw up her Coumadin even though she is not swallowing it. She does not want to put it in water or juice and drink it. She just wants to put it on the inside of her wrist. RaeSent from my iPodOn Jan 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, "texlyme_mom" <texlyme_mom@...> wrote:

Rea,

My husband takes Coumadin, so we were very cautious about working him up on iodine very, very slowly. I've written a good bit about this in this forum if you want to do a search of my posts using the word(s) coumadin (or warfarin).

In my husband's case, I've concluded tentatively that it's probably the bromide detox which tends to affect his prothrombin time because it tends to stabilize after he has been on the same dosage of iodine for a few weeks. It tended to make his blood thinner, requiring him to have to lower his coumadin dosage very slightly, but the effects tended to be transient, lasting for only a couple of weeks -- until he raised his dosage of iodine to the next higher level.

I searched for cross-reactions between Lugol's and coumadin, and I couldn't find any, but we were very cautious anyway. So far, so good. He started iodine last August, and he's still alive and kicking and just as feisty as every.

If you mother decides to take iodine, then it would be a good idea to get regular blood tests to make sure that her prothrombin time stays within normal range. My husband gets his tested every two weeks so that it doesn't vary too much before he catches it.

However, you do need to be very cautious when treating a-fib patients because there are contraindications against using thyroid meds in these patients -- although I don't know if the same thing might be true with regard to iodine therapy (instead of exogenous thyroid hormone). Here's the link to one such article. (Scroll down to find the pertinent part.)

http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=16214

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> My mom deal with Hypo Thyroid, Atrial Fib and is on the blood thinner Comidon I was down for Christmas and asked her if she would like to start the Lugol's and she stated she does not want to upset the blood thinner and agreed to allow me to put one drop on her skin. She has trouble with constipation and said the next day she went poop 3 times and was thrilled. If she just put it on her skin like we did when I was down would it upset the blood thinner. Also in the detoxing do cold sores develop and what other detox symptoms would I look out for. Or do you think the cold sore came about due to the Niacin overload I had last week. Thanks Happy New Year Rae

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[Guest guest]

I went and looked at that website that you say counterindicates hypothyroid

treatment for folks with a-fib issues. The information doesn't truly say that

hypoT

shouldn't be treated. It says that high doses of thyroid hormone need to be

carefully monitored. That's NOT AT ALL the same thing. The headline says

" counterindications " but the text doesn't actually say it is NOT indicated,

simply that

monitoring is important. And it's only talking about high doses.

And then to extrapolate that and say that it applies to iodine is really a

stretch.

Let's not take single sources and make generalizations that don't apply.

--

moderator, Iodine list

> Contraindications for Alternative Thyroid Treatments

> Including Cytomel and Armour Thyroid

>

> There´s rarely a " free lunch. " A low dose of thyroid hormone supplement is

> very unlikely to cause harm, but exceptions can and do occur. More

> important, as thyroid treatment doses increase, so too does the risk of

> side-effects. These risks apply both to the standard T4-containing thyroid

> treatments (Synthroid and Levoxyl) and to the T3-containing alternative

> thyroid treatments (Cytomel and Armour Thyroid).

>

> The most important potential risk is among people with heart disease,

> especially those who are prone to irregular or rapid heart beat patterns

> (arrhythmia) or who are at high risk for heart attacks. High doses of

> thyroid tend to increase risk for abnormal heart rhythms, for angina and

> also for heart attacks.

>

> Be more cautious about using mid and high level alternative thyroid

> treatments if you have: o Known heart disease or a high cardiac risk

> profile (over 50 years of age, high cholesterol, high blood pressure,

> cigarettes, diabetes).

>

> o Vulnerability to rapid, irregular or extra heart beats including

> ventricular premature beats and atrial fibrillation.

>

> o Medication that tends to promote heart arrhythmia, for example,

> tricyclic anti-depressants such as Elavil/amitryptiline, Digoxin.

> Rea,

> My husband takes Coumadin, so we were very cautious about working him

> up on iodine very, very slowly. I've written a good bit about this in

> this forum if you want to do a search of my posts using the word(s)

> coumadin (or warfarin).

>

> In my husband's case, I've concluded tentatively that it's probably

> the bromide detox which tends to affect his prothrombin time because

> it tends to stabilize after he has been on the same dosage of iodine

> for a few weeks. It tended to make his blood thinner, requiring him to

> have to lower his coumadin dosage very slightly, but the effects

> tended to be transient, lasting for only a couple of weeks -- until he

> raised his dosage of iodine to the next higher level.

>

> I searched for cross-reactions between Lugol's and coumadin, and I

> couldn't find any, but we were very cautious anyway. So far, so good.

> He started iodine last August, and he's still alive and kicking and

> just as feisty as every.

>

> If you mother decides to take iodine, then it would be a good idea to

> get regular blood tests to make sure that her prothrombin time stays

> within normal range. My husband gets his tested every two weeks so

> that it doesn't vary too much before he catches it.

>

> However, you do need to be very cautious when treating a-fib patients

> because there are contraindications against using thyroid meds in

> these patients -- although I don't know if the same thing might be

> true with regard to iodine therapy (instead of exogenous thyroid

> hormone). Here's the link to one such article. (Scroll down to find

> the pertinent part.)

> http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=16214

>

>

>

> > > My mom deal with Hypo Thyroid,

> Atrial Fib and is on the blood thinner Comidon I was down for

> Christmas and asked her if she would like to start the Lugol's and she

> stated she does not want to upset the blood thinner and agreed to

> allow me to put one drop on her skin. She has trouble with

> constipation and said the next day she went poop 3 times and was

> thrilled. If she just put it on her skin like we did when I was down

> would it upset the blood thinner. Also in the detoxing do cold sores

> develop and what other detox symptoms would I look out for. Or do you

> think the cold sore came about due to the Niacin overload I had last

> week. Thanks Happy New Year Rae >

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