Re: New to the Group/Introduction

December 29, 2011

Tamara,

Your family history plus your symptoms of low iron (low ferritin) and also

hypothyroidism are classic symptoms for undiagnosed celiac, especially

considering that colon cancer runs in your family also.

The easy way to " rule out " celiac would be to get tested at Enterolab (link

below), which is the most popular diagnostic labs for celiac that is recommended

by almost all of the celiac forums on the internet.

http://enterolab.com/

http://enterolab.com/StaticPages/TestInfo.aspx

http://enterolab.com/StaticPages/Resources.aspx - (Click on the essay: " Before

the Villi are Gone " )

Be sure to order the genetic cheek swab test kit for celiac also. 40% of the

American population carries the gene for celiac -- although only 1% of the

population ever actually develops full-blown celiac. Celiac experts postulate

that a " triggering factor " (which could be anything among a variety of things,

from infections to toxins or even food poisoning) is responsible for activating

latent celiac in someone who is genetically predisposed to it.

Even if you do not have true auto-immune celiac, a gluten free diet might help

you anyway. The difference is that true celiac patients must be 100% scrupulous

in avoiding ALL " hidden sources " of gluten 100% of the time, whereas folks who

are merely " gluten sensitive " do OK if they avoid 99.99% of gluten 99% of the

time -- which turns out to be a huge difference in lifestyle, believe it or not!

http://www.celiacsolution.com/hidden-gluten.html

If you do this lab screening test for celiac and if it turns out that you are

sensitive to gluten, then you might be quite pleasantly surprised to find out

that many/most of your other complex symptoms will gradually resolve. It seems

almost unbelievable, but it has been true for many other unsuspecting and

undiagnosed celiac patients. That's why the screening test for celiac might turn

out the be the best money you ever spent.

Caution: It is wise to be tested before attempting a trial gluten-free diet

because it can skew the test results if you have been gluten free for a while

before you get tested. Because the lifestyle is so difficult to adhere to

correctly, you really owe it to yourself to find out if you have true celiac vs.

merely being gluten sensitive.

The reason for this is that true celiacs who are the ones who most need the GF

diet are the very persons who are most likely to fail a GF trial diet because

they become so sensitive to gluten after it is withdrawn that they will become

highly symptomatic to even minute traces of gluten, thereby confusing and

confounding the patient.

In contrast, persons who are merely gluten sensitive (vs. true celiacs)

generally do quite well with a dietary GF challenge, but the challenge GF diet

will cause a true celiac to come to the false conclusion that gluten is NOT

their problem afterall. This can be a very costly and time-consuming mistake.

That's why it's better to spend the money up front and find out if you carry one

(or both) of the two gene(s) for celiac.

>

> Good Morning to Everyone,

> Thank you for having me here, my name is Tamara and my current doctor who is

treating me for Hypothyroidism and Nodules would like to try Iodine therapy. I

am 45 years old, and have 5 children, married. I was left Hypo for at least 20

years before being diagnosed with nodules when my throat began to swell. Despite

my insistence on being tested over the years due to symptoms, I was always told

I was fine. When I became " street smart " and ready Shomon's book, I

insisted on my labs going back years. Mt TSH was always anywhere from 4.5-6. I

had just learned about FT3 & FT4. Those, needless to say, were not on the tests.

I am now on 1 1/2 grains of ERFA thyroid, and pretty much stable except for a

slight raise in TSH this Winter, and a low ferritin level of 27 (Labcorp). I do

not have Hashi's. I do have labs should you want to take a look at those. I also

have PCOS without pain or cysts flaring, but do have the weight gain and

metabolic syndrome. I have finally put those symptoms to right after using a

supplement called " D-Chiro Balance " , which brought my A1C and cholesterol into

good range, along with a whole foods diet. I am overweight, and can't seem to

lose well at all. I had a heart valve repair for a bi-cuspid valve in 2001, and

with a donor valve, I don't have to take any meds for that, no Coumadin.

> I have to be honest and say I did try supplementation about two years ago. A

similar ND put me on Iodoral, 12.5 mg., and told me nothing about a supplement

protocol to help with de-tox. To make a long story short, I almost ended up in

the ER after about 5 days on that low a dose. My thyroid swelled so badly, I

couldn't swallow well. My blood pressure, pulse, heartbeat, all of it went

haywire. The doc immediately took me off of it, and a couple of days later, I

was better, but terrified of Iodine.

> So, back to today. The doc I'm seeing now wants to start off using Standard

Process Iodine. I have done my homework and read through your site here and the

website. I now understand this is not appropriate for de-toxing and to really

help at all. Thank goodness I only bought thirty days of it. However, I am toxin

laden...to have that bad of a detox-reaction, I know I am.

> I am going to be patient and follow the recommendations and get my ducks in

order to begin, but need some instruction on how to do so, without putting

myself what I went through earlier. I am now in Nursing school, and can manage

to get myself to class during the day de-toxing for three hours, but emergency

room or bad problems? I'd be in trouble here, because I live in the mountains

and my doc who prescribed the Iodine is two hours away.

> So, what would be your recommendation on how to start, and do this gently? I'm

not expecting results overnight, I know that de-toxing is going to take me

literally years. It took me 45 years to get into this mess, it will take me

years to get out of it. I have a very strong family history of stomach cancers

and my Mother died of colon cancer. I'm determined to do everything in my power

to not let that happen to me!

> Blessings,

> Tamara

>

December 29, 2011

Hi Tamara,

Maybe consider LDN as well.

Perhaps start with the Himalayan or Celtic salt - helpful for the adrenals, too.

If you have believed that salt is bad (refined salt is) and have been avoiding salt you may well find that the unrefined stuff is very hard to stay away from once you have it at home! That is probably a sign of mineral deficiency.

I found Himalayan salt unexpectedly tasty.

All the information about the companion nutrients is in the forum files.

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wMb8ToNGofBRHbR-2geSMG-HgwbeUJpIdgYgb0g_LF8FqFtV0dUD6cdG3OArwGNFhTrwI4p8QT8ly7s1vbZ2LHH36SMf-93lYl5boyXb8LI8/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/The%20Guide%20to%20Supplementing%20with%20Iodine.pdf is particularly useful.

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New to the Group/Introduction

Good Morning to Everyone,Thank you for having me here, my name is Tamara and my current doctor who is treating me for Hypothyroidism and Nodules would like to try Iodine therapy. I am 45 years old, and have 5 children, married. I was left Hypo for at least 20 years before being diagnosed with nodules when my throat began to swell. Despite my insistence on being tested over the years due to symptoms, I was always told I was fine. When I became "street smart" and ready Shomon's book, I insisted on my labs going back years. Mt TSH was always anywhere from 4.5-6. I had just learned about FT3 & FT4. Those, needless to say, were not on the tests. I am now on 1 1/2 grains of ERFA thyroid, and pretty much stable except for a slight raise in TSH this Winter, and a low ferritin level of 27 (Labcorp). I do not have Hashi's. I do have labs should you want to take a look at those. I also have PCOS without pain or cysts flaring, but do have the weight gain and metabolic syndrome. I have finally put thos e symptoms to right after using a supplement called "D-Chiro Balance", which brought my A1C and cholesterol into good range, along with a whole foods diet. I am overweight, and can't seem to lose well at all. I had a heart valve repair for a bi-cuspid valve in 2001, and with a donor valve, I don't have to take any meds for that, no Coumadin. I have to be honest and say I did try supplementation about two years ago. A similar ND put me on Iodoral, 12.5 mg., and told me nothing about a supplement protocol to help with de-tox. To make a long story short, I almost ended up in the ER after about 5 days on that low a dose. My thyroid swelled so badly, I couldn't swallow well. My blood pressure, pulse, heartbeat, all of it went haywire. The doc immediately took me off of it, and a couple of days later, I was better, but terrified of Iodine.So, back to today. The doc I'm seeing now wants to start off using Standard Process Iodine. I have done my homework and read through your site here and the website. I now understand this is not appropriate for de-toxing and to really help at all. Thank goodness I only bought thirty days of it. However, I am toxin laden...to have that bad of a detox-reaction, I know I am. I am going to be patient and follow the recommendations and get my ducks in order to begin, but need some instruction on how to do so, without putting myself what I went through earlier. I am now in Nursing school, and can manage to get myself to class during the day de-toxing for three hours, but emergency room or bad problems? I'd be in trouble here, because I live in the mountains and my doc who prescribed the Iodine is two hours away.So, what would be your recommendation on how to start, and do this gently? I'm not expecting results overnight, I know that de-toxing is going to take me literally years. It took me 45 years to get into this mess, it will take me years to get out of it. I have a very strong family history of stomach cancers and my Mother died of colon cancer. I'm determined to do everything in my power to not let that happen to me!Blessings,Tamara

December 29, 2011

,Thank you for your reply....yes, I did find the articles on companion nutrients, and ordered the Himalayan salt today from Vitacost, with some other nutrients.My main concern is how I should proceed, knowing that I am sensitive to Iodine, or had a bad Herx reaction before on 12.5 mg. So, if anyone has had a similar reaction, how did you handle it?

Thanks,TamaraOn Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Marsh <hmarsh@...> wrote:

Hi Tamara,

Maybe consider LDN as well.

Perhaps start with the Himalayan or Celtic salt - helpful for the adrenals, too.

If you have believed that salt is bad (refined salt is) and have been avoiding salt you may well find that the unrefined stuff is very hard to stay away from once you have it at home! That is probably a sign of mineral deficiency.

I found Himalayan salt unexpectedly tasty.

All the information about the companion nutrients is in the forum files.

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wMb8ToNGofBRHbR-2geSMG-HgwbeUJpIdgYgb0g_LF8FqFtV0dUD6cdG3OArwGNFhTrwI4p8QT8ly7s1vbZ2LHH36SMf-93lYl5boyXb8LI8/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/The%20Guide%20to%20Supplementing%20with%20Iodine.pdf is particularly useful.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

New to the Group/Introduction

Good Morning to Everyone,Thank you for having me here, my name is Tamara and my current doctor who is treating me for Hypothyroidism and Nodules would like to try Iodine therapy. I am 45 years old, and have 5 children, married. I was left Hypo for at least 20 years before being diagnosed with nodules when my throat began to swell. Despite my insistence on being tested over the years due to symptoms, I was always told I was fine. When I became " street smart " and ready Shomon's book, I insisted on my labs going back years. Mt TSH was always anywhere from 4.5-6. I had just learned about FT3 & FT4. Those, needless to say, were not on the tests. I am now on 1 1/2 grains of ERFA thyroid, and pretty much stable except for a slight raise in TSH this Winter, and a low ferritin level of 27 (Labcorp). I do not have Hashi's. I do have labs should you want to take a look at those. I also have PCOS without pain or cysts flaring, but do have the weight gain and metabolic syndrome. I have finally put thos e symptoms to right after using a supplement called " D-Chiro Balance " , which brought my A1C and cholesterol into good range, along with a whole foods diet. I am overweight, and can't seem to lose well at all. I had a heart valve repair for a bi-cuspid valve in 2001, and with a donor valve, I don't have to take any meds for that, no Coumadin. I have to be honest and say I did try supplementation about two years ago. A similar ND put me on Iodoral, 12.5 mg., and told me nothing about a supplement protocol to help with de-tox. To make a long story short, I almost ended up in the ER after about 5 days on that low a dose. My thyroid swelled so badly, I couldn't swallow well. My blood pressure, pulse, heartbeat, all of it went haywire. The doc immediately took me off of it, and a couple of days later, I was better, but terrified of Iodine.So, back to today. The doc I'm seeing now wants to start off using Standard Process Iodine. I have done my homework and read through your site here and the website. I now understand this is not appropriate for de-toxing and to really help at all. Thank goodness I only bought thirty days of it. However, I am toxin laden...to have that bad of a detox-reaction, I know I am. I am going to be patient and follow the recommendations and get my ducks in order to begin, but need some instruction on how to do so, without putting myself what I went through earlier. I am now in Nursing school, and can manage to get myself to class during the day de-toxing for three hours, but emergency room or bad problems? I'd be in trouble here, because I live in the mountains and my doc who prescribed the Iodine is two hours away.So, what would be your recommendation on how to start, and do this gently? I'm not expecting results overnight, I know that de-toxing is going to take me literally years. It took me 45 years to get into this mess, it will take me years to get out of it. I have a very strong family history of stomach cancers and my Mother died of colon cancer. I'm determined to do everything in my power to not let that happen to me!Blessings,Tamara

December 29, 2011

Hi,I am curious why the Standard Process Iodine is not good. Thanks. in AlaskaOn Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:17 AM, pinehavenfarm7 <pinehavenfarm7@...> wrote:

So, back to today. The doc I'm seeing now wants to start off using Standard Process Iodine. I have done my homework and read through your site here and the website. I now understand this is not appropriate for de-toxing and to really help at all. Thank goodness I only bought thirty days of it. However, I am toxin laden...to have that bad of a detox-reaction, I know I am.

December 29, 2011

Tamara,

The way to avoid intense Herx reactions is to start off at a very low dose and

raise

the dose only very slowly.

imo you'd be better off using Lugol's liquid 2% because you can start off with a

very

low dose and only raise the dose in very small increments. However, Standard

Process iodine has 3mg of iodine per tablet. For larger doses, it becomes very

expensive. but it's not otherwise a bad product, so don't worry about that. 1

drop

of Lugol's 2% is 3.25mg, so really one tablet of the SP is roughly equivalent to

1

drop of Lugol's 2%, so since you've already got that product it may be the best

thing for you to take at this time.

I suggest that you start off taking 1/4 or 1/2 a tablet, take that for a few

days and

see how you feel, and increment upwards very very slowly. Your herx response

indicates you really really need the iodine.

Keep asking questions.

--

moderator

On 29 Dec 2011 at 21:52, Pine Haven Farm wrote:

>

> ,

> Thank you for your reply....yes, I did find the articles on companion

> nutrients, and ordered the Himalayan salt today from Vitacost, with

> some other nutrients. My main concern is how I should proceed, knowing

> that I am sensitive to Iodine, or had a bad Herx reaction before on

> 12.5 mg. So, if anyone has had a similar reaction, how did you handle

> it? Thanks, Tamara

>

> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Marsh <hmarsh@...>

> wrote:

>

> Hi Tamara,

>

> Maybe consider LDN as well.

>

> Perhaps start with the Himalayan or Celtic salt - helpful for the

> adrenals, too.

>

> If you have believed that salt is bad (refined salt is) and have been

> avoiding salt you may well find that the unrefined stuff is very hard

> to stay away from once you have it at home! That is probably a sign of

> mineral deficiency.

>

> I found Himalayan salt unexpectedly tasty.

>

> All the information about the companion nutrients is in the forum

> files.

>

> http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/wMb8ToNGofBRHbR-2geSMG-

> HgwbeUJpIdgYgb0g_LF8FqFtV0dUD6cdG3OArwGNFhTrwI4p8QT8ly7s1vbZ2LHH36SMf-

> 93lYl5boyXb8LI8/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-

> %20READ%20FIRST/The%20Guide%20to%20Supplementing%20with%20Iodine.pdf

> is particularly useful.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> New to the Group/Introduction

>

> Good Morning to Everyone,

> Thank you for having me here, my name is Tamara and my current

> doctor who is treating me for Hypothyroidism and Nodules would

> like to try Iodine therapy. I am 45 years old, and have 5

> children, married. I was left Hypo for at least 20 years before

> being diagnosed with nodules when my throat began to swell.

> Despite my insistence on being tested over the years due to

> symptoms, I was always told I was fine. When I became " street

> smart " and ready Shomon's book, I insisted on my labs going

> back years. Mt TSH was always anywhere from 4.5-6. I had just

> learned about FT3 & FT4. Those, needless to say, were not on the

> tests. I am now on 1 1/2 grains of ERFA thyroid, and pretty much

> stable except for a slight raise in TSH this Winter, and a low

> ferritin level of 27 (Labcorp). I do not have Hashi's. I do have

> labs should you want to take a look at those. I also have PCOS

> without pain or cysts flaring, but do have the weight gain and

> metabolic syndrome. I have finally put thos e symptoms to right

> after using a supplement called " D-Chiro Balance " , which brought

> my A1C and cholesterol into good range, along with a whole foods

> diet. I am overweight, and can't seem to lose well at all. I had a

> heart valve repair for a bi-cuspid valve in 2001, and with a donor

> valve, I don't have to take any meds for that, no Coumadin. I have

> to be honest and say I did try supplementation about two years

> ago. A similar ND put me on Iodoral, 12.5 mg., and told me nothing

> about a supplement protocol to help with de- tox. To make a long

> story short, I almost ended up in the ER after about 5 days on

> that low a dose. My thyroid swelled so badly, I couldn't swallow

> well. My blood pressure, pulse, heartbeat, all of it went haywire.

> The doc immediately took me off of it, and a couple of days later,

> I was better, but terrified of Iodine. So, back to today. The doc

> I'm seeing now wants to start off using Standard Process Iodine. I

> have done my homework and read through your site here and the

> website. I now understand this is not appropriate for de-toxing

> and to really help at all. Thank goodness I only bought thirty

> days of it. However, I am toxin laden...to have that bad of a

> detox-reaction, I know I am. I am going to be patient and follow

> the recommendations and get my ducks in order to begin, but need

> some instruction on how to do so, without putting myself what I

> went through earlier. I am now in Nursing school, and can manage

> to get myself to class during the day de-toxing for three hours,

> but emergency room or bad problems? I'd be in trouble here,

> because I live in the mountains and my doc who prescribed the

> Iodine is two hours away. So, what would be your recommendation on

> how to start, and do this gently? I'm not expecting results

> overnight, I know that de-toxing is going to take me literally

> years. It took me 45 years to get into this mess, it will take me

> years to get out of it. I have a very strong family history of

> stomach cancers and my Mother died of colon cancer. I'm determined

> to do everything in my power to not let that happen to me!

> Blessings, Tamara

>

December 30, 2011

,Thank you so much for your reply! You gave me the advice I was looking for. Alright then, starting next Wednesday (I'm leaving on a trip this morning, will be back on Monday) and giving that my Vitacost order has already shipped and will be here on Monday, leaving me 2 days to get the nutrients well and in my system, I'll start with 1/2 pill Standard Process Iodine for 5 days, pulsing it, off for the weekend. The reason being that I've had many kidney infections over the last 2 years (4 of them, very bad) and I don't want to over stress my kidneys, if there is some underlying damage. I've been taking D-Mannose for that, along with Cranberry capsules every day to help prevent another occurrence. I've taken Milk Thistle for the last year, everyday, so I'm hoping my liver is ready to go. I've plenty of gallons of pure water (Spring) I've purchased to last for at least 2 weeks, to help flush out all those toxins, along with ordering a good brand of fiber to use also to help keep that de-tox pathway running smoothly. Also, several bars of a de-tox bath soap from Vitacost, to help with that pathway through the skin, along with the peroxide and Epsom salts for baths.

I know this goes a little in depth, but I'm trying to do everything I can think of to be successful this time around. A little scared, a little excited. I'm ready to get well! Do you all think that the pulsing is the right thing to do with having the previous kidney infections?

Thanks,TamaraOn Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote:

Tamara,

The way to avoid intense Herx reactions is to start off at a very low dose and raise

the dose only very slowly.

imo you'd be better off using Lugol's liquid 2% because you can start off with a very

low dose and only raise the dose in very small increments. However, Standard

Process iodine has 3mg of iodine per tablet. For larger doses, it becomes very

expensive. but it's not otherwise a bad product, so don't worry about that. 1 drop

of Lugol's 2% is 3.25mg, so really one tablet of the SP is roughly equivalent to 1

drop of Lugol's 2%, so since you've already got that product it may be the best

thing for you to take at this time.

I suggest that you start off taking 1/4 or 1/2 a tablet, take that for a few days and