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> 1. Cheney video

> From: " Sieverling " <lsieverl@...>

> 2. Haedaches - Corina

> From: " Sieverling " <lsieverl@...>

> 3. Re: Terrible headaches (immunocal?)

> From: " gkadar " <gkadar@...>

> 4. Re: Cheney video

> From: " Al Melillo " <melillo3@...>

> 5. Re: glut Marty, Howmuch zinc and selenium?

> From: " Woodard " <woodard@...>

> 6. Re:whey , Headaches - Corina & Carol

> From: SusyDog@...

> 7. Re: Re:Designer Protein verses Imuplus.....

> From: " dean " <avenger@...>

> 8. Re: Cheney video

> From: lbinujrsy@...

> 9. Re:whey , Headaches - Corina & Carol

> From: Corina <corina@...>

> 10. CFS TownHall: Berg, Goldberg, Regush are scheduled

> From: " M Lassesen, BS, MS, RASC " <KenL@...>

> 11. blood thinner

> From: " Holder " <e3280@...>

> 12. Re: HEMEX's new protocol

> From: dlsherman@...

> 13. Possible Causes of CFS

> From: " B. " <Mel@...>

> 14. Re:HEMEX's new protocol

> From: SusyDog@...

> 15. Re:Designer Protein verses Wheys.....

> From: SusyDog@...

> 16. Re:HEMEX's new protocol

> From: " Lassesen " <KenL@...>

> 17. unsubscribe

> From: " Henry Redifer " <hensue@...>

> 18. doxycycline and bromalain

> From: Brown <pbrown@...>

> 19. Re: Scheduled maintenance

> From: " C.Tab. " <tab@...>

> 20. Re: blood thinner

> From: " Dr. Steve " <moores@...>

> 21. Fix mito

> From: " C.Tab. " <tab@...>

> 22. essiac

> From: Brown <pbrown@...>

> 23. Re: Physicians (drs.) which to go to...

> From: " B. " <Mel@...>

> 24. Root canals and CFS - yes!

> From: " Thorstensen " <jane_doe_press@...>

> 25. Re: abx - Marty

> From: Indyjo69@...

>

>

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> Message: 1

> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:33:55 -0600

> From: " Sieverling " <lsieverl@...>

> Subject: Cheney video

>

> Here's the " official " announcement of the sale of the Cheney video that

describes the topics covered.

>

> The CFS/FM Support Group of DFW is offering a professionally taped video of

a May 1999 three-hour seminar by Cheney, Ph.D, M.D. The seminar was

entitled " The Pathophysiology, Diagnosis and Treatment of CFIDS " . Many who

have seen the tape believe it to be one of the best presentations on CFIDS

available.

>

> A wide range of topics are covered, including proposed causes, symptoms,

prevalence, diagnosis, stages of illness, treatment, prognosis, disability

issues, similarities and differences with Fibromyalgia, Mycoplasma testing and

treatment, interferon treatment, genetics, CFS in children, cancer risk, is

CFIDS ever fatal?, weight loss/weight gain, etc.

>

> If you'd like a video send a check for $15 made out to the CFS/FM Support

Group of DFW. Please write " Cheney video " in the memo area and mail it to

Carol Sieverling at 513 Janann Street, Euless TX 76039. If you are overseas,

please send $20 in some form of American dollars. If you have questions

contact Carol at the address above, or at lsieverl@....

>

>

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> Message: 2

> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:00:49 -0600

> From: " Sieverling " <lsieverl@...>

> Subject: Haedaches - Corina

>

> Corina, you wrote about terrible headaches.

>

> (1) As already mentioned, you could try lowering the dose of the whey, but

if you haven't recently raised it, I would wonder if that was the problem.

But it could be. This is all so complex.

>

> (2) I get significant headache relief from the oxygen using the partial

rebreather mask that Cheney prescribed. The detailed article on Cheney's

oxygen therapy can be found at our group's website, the Jan. 2000 newsletter,

which is www.virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids. But it can be difficult to get a

doc to prescribe and if insurance doesn't cover it, it's expensive.

>

> (3) Many people in our support group get significant relief from the CFS

headaches from the drug Diamox. It's typically a glaucoma medicine, so it has

something to do with regulating pressure. In a tape or transcript from years

ago that I've never seen, Cheney recommended it, and several docs here were

willing to try it and the patients reported that it was wonderful.

>

>

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> Message: 3

> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:59:55 -0500

> From: " gkadar " <gkadar@...>

> Subject: Re: Terrible headaches (immunocal?)

>

> Corina,

>

> ****Are you drinking enough fluids? Dehydration can make headaches much

> worse. Immunocal is a concentrated protein. Your body may need extra

> fluids in order to cope with it.

>

> Don't get too concerned about becoming addicted to codeine if you are

taking

> it for legitimate pain. Studies have shown that the risk of addiction is

> extremely low (as in less than 5%) because when an opiate is used for pain,

> it doesn't give you a 'high'. It's the 'high' that encourages people to

> take the drug when they don't really need it. I don't know about the US,

> but in Canada the Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons in several provinces

> have drawn up position papers in regards to the use of opioids for chronic

> pain management. The much ballyhooed addiction risk has been laid to rest.

> Unfortunately, some doctors are way behind in their reading of the

> literature. This, despite the fact that several excellent reports have

been

> available in the popular media.

>

> The trick about pain, is to take meds before it becomes uncontrollable.

> There were times when I'd wait too long, and 60mgs of codeine were like

> taking nothing at all. Recently I went to speak with a pain management

> specialist who reviewed my opiate history. Given that I take 60mg per day

> and sometimes another 60 if absolutely necessary, he had no concern. I've

> been on codeine for over 31/2 years. And yes, there have been days when I

> never thought to take the stuff because I didn't need it. Then again, when

> I do start to get pain, I know exactly where it's headed and I've decided

> that I'm not going to be a hero. I make no apologies or excuses. To make

> matters worse, I hate codeine. Without taking ranitidine, I'd vomit it all

> out. So, where's the fun?

>

> Chronic pain situations are, unfortunately, relatively predictable. We all

> have our own patterns and triggers. So when you need to take something,

> just do it.

>

> la

> p.s. , thanks for the compliments regarding my writing style. Thank

> goodness I haven't lost that yet.

>

> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:31:29 -0800 (PST)

> From: Corina <corina@...>

> Subject: Terrible headaches (immunocal?)

>

> Hi all!

>

> I have had these horrible headaches the past few days that really make it

> impossible for me to do anything (including sleep). What do you all do for

> severe headaches? i don't think they're migrains, just my regular CFS

> headaches, only times 10 zillion. Last night I took a lot of codeine,

> which helped some, but I can't take that all the time. Is there something

> non-addicting that will help? Also, is headache pain different from other

> pain as far as what works best on it?

>

> I have been trying to think about whether i have done ANYTHING new or

> different this week, but I haven't. The only thing I can think of is that

> perhaps I have reached some sort of " critical mass " with the immunocal

> (even though I haven't increased the dosage recently) and I am detoxing too

> fast? But I don't remember reading that others have had bad headaches from

> the immunocal. I am still only taking one teaspoon per day.

>

> Thanks so much for any advice or sharing of info!

> Corina

>

> --

>

>

>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:07:56 -0800

> From: " Al Melillo " <melillo3@...>

> Subject: Re: Cheney video

>

> Hi Carol,

> Thats a good video. I'm going to buy the video of Cheney's Feb-2000

lecture on the DNA & Fetal-bovine-growth factor with another CFS patient.

> Those interested, it's sold by www.treefarmtapes.com

> Al

> ABX three week trial, to be or not to be???

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > If you had the chance to take a three week trial of

> > doxy would you?

> >

> >

> > No, I wouldn't. I know I have some bug because I herx when I get

> off all

> > supplements for 3 weeks then get back on. I also herx when I start

> bromelain

> > or OLE. (I think herx is not the same as detoxing).

> >

> > This is why - my immune system is out of whack. If my immune

> system and the

> > rest of my body was working like it should, then it would be able

> to fight off

> > any critters (like all the other healthy people do).

> >

> > I can take abx until they are all gone but when I stop and then

> encounter

> > someone who is carrying the critters, and my body is not strong

> enough to

> > withstand them, I will get them all over again. So, I prefer to fix

> the

> > problem (my immune dysfunction) than a symptom (which I believe

> myco's & HHV6

> > and all CWD's are - I believe we all have them since we have no

> defense

> > system)

> >

> > This is the same thing that they discovered about 3 years ago in

> the AIDS

> > community. They discovered how to put the HIV virus into remission

> but people

> > were still dying! They finally figured out that when they focussed

> on

> > strengthing their immune systems, the survival rate went up. So,

> good AIDS

> > Dr's do both - anti-viral cocktails to put HIV in remission and

> other methods

> > for strngthening immune system, (glut shots, whey, etc).

> >

> > Everyone has to weigh the options for themselves. The first step

> in the

> > immune cascade is destruction of bowel flora (from several possible

> sources

> > including abx given at the beginning of our illness (for some of

> us).

> > Remember, 60% of our immunity takes place in the gut.

> >

> > My humble opinion,

> > Marty Z.

> >

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