Diarrhea

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In a message dated 5/7/02 10:01:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> I really don't think Garrett has td, due to the fact that he seemed to

> respond well to the magnesium supplements, and the gfcf diet. but his

> stupid gi says to give him large quantities of milk products (which

> she knows he's intolerant of) limit his fluids, and no juice. His

> allergist says it can be dangerous to give him a lot of milk products,

> since he has been known to vomit them and then aspirate, causing an

> asthma episode. I am so tired of incompetant drs! This gi didn't

> even do any kind of exam, just observed him, and decided she had a

> diagnosis. There was not an xray to rule out constipation and

> impacted bowels, or anything. It's ridiculous! Anyway, yes, I would

> love to know what your dr told you about it. Maybe it would work for

> us!

>

> I can't remember if I responded to your earlier post. If I did then just

> delete me now.

> If not, has had many issues with diarrhea in his life. We tried

> eliminating dairy products- no change. We reduced but didn't eliminate the

> gluten and casein in his diet but probably didn't do enough to know if it

> could have helped.

> What eventually helped was getting juice totally out of his diet. He is

> very sensitive to sugar. All sugar even the natural sugars found in 100%

> juice. We also don't give him jello, rarely any candy or chocolate.

> He is SOO much better unless he gets stressed then we see issues. But he

> rarely has troubles now at 13 years old.

>

> Karyn

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In a message dated 5/7/02 10:01:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> I really don't think Garrett has td, due to the fact that he seemed to

> respond well to the magnesium supplements, and the gfcf diet. but his

> stupid gi says to give him large quantities of milk products (which

> she knows he's intolerant of) limit his fluids, and no juice. His

> allergist says it can be dangerous to give him a lot of milk products,

> since he has been known to vomit them and then aspirate, causing an

> asthma episode. I am so tired of incompetant drs! This gi didn't

> even do any kind of exam, just observed him, and decided she had a

> diagnosis. There was not an xray to rule out constipation and

> impacted bowels, or anything. It's ridiculous! Anyway, yes, I would

> love to know what your dr told you about it. Maybe it would work for

> us!

>

> I can't remember if I responded to your earlier post. If I did then just

> delete me now.

> If not, has had many issues with diarrhea in his life. We tried

> eliminating dairy products- no change. We reduced but didn't eliminate the

> gluten and casein in his diet but probably didn't do enough to know if it

> could have helped.

> What eventually helped was getting juice totally out of his diet. He is

> very sensitive to sugar. All sugar even the natural sugars found in 100%

> juice. We also don't give him jello, rarely any candy or chocolate.

> He is SOO much better unless he gets stressed then we see issues. But he

> rarely has troubles now at 13 years old.

>

> Karyn

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In a message dated 5/8/02 11:25:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Scherb@... writes:

> We found out this week that the itinerate teacher that Sam has this year

> will be J and Tim's teacher in the fall!!! This is fantastic.

Cool !!! It's nice when something goes our way, eh???

;-)

Donna

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> In a message dated 5/7/02 10:01:10 AM Central Daylight Time,

> @y... writes:

>

> > What eventually helped was getting juice totally out of his diet.

He is

> > very sensitive to sugar. All sugar even the natural sugars found

in 100%

> > juice. We also don't give him jello, rarely any candy or chocolate.

> > He is SOO much better unless he gets stressed then we see issues.

But he

> > rarely has troubles now at 13 years old.

> >

> > Karyn

>

>Karyn,

We didn't see a difference either way by taking Garrett completely off

of juice. I don't think sugar is the problem either. He's been

better the last two days, but he never was very consistant before

either. He would go 10 times in one day, then only have 1 dirty

diaper the next. It was so frustrating! His teacher at school says

that there is a virus going around. I know it sounds weird, but I am

hoping that is what he has. Atleast we know he would get over it soon!

Traci

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Plus for summer school we were able to get one of our respite

> workers to be the aide in that class. She knows about the diet and

we hope

> that he does not end up in the hospital this summer. Did I tell you

that

> before? I think I am loosing my mind with these allergies. I just

want to

> hid under the covers!!!

>

> & Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (8

> ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (5 ds). All

adopted.

>

>

>

Is he going to summer school or ESY? Where do you find respite

workers? Why was he sent to the hospital? Did he have an allergy

attack? No, you haven't told me about all of this, but I know what

you mean about losing your mind! I forgot to send my daughter's lunch

to mother's day out yesterday, because I was on the phone trying

tomake dr appts for Garrett! Poor little thing! I picked her up as

soon as I realized it, and took her to McD's to make up for it. She

was quite happy about that!

Traci

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>His teacher at school says

>>that there is a virus going around.

JJ had the 'running diarrhea on Friday and stayed home from school. School

had not had any one else out with this. But yesterday we stopped in for a

few minute(Surprise!) and they were cleaning the carpet. Some one had what

they call " uncontained diarrhea " So perhaps it was the flu and JJ passed it

on--now that is a change! We always just assume that the teachers let JJ

get something with gluten.

We found out this week that the itinerate teacher that Sam has this year

will be J and Tim's teacher in the fall!!! This is fantastic. He is very

open to suggestions and I have already given him the book on CD. And

explained how important it is for him to read it before the school year

starts. Plus for summer school we were able to get one of our respite

workers to be the aide in that class. She knows about the diet and we hope

that he does not end up in the hospital this summer. Did I tell you that

before? I think I am loosing my mind with these allergies. I just want to

hid under the covers!!!

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (8

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (5 ds). All adopted.

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Traci-I guess he is actualy going to ESY. This means for us he gets out of

school on June 6, summer school is June 17 to July 17, camp is August 4 to

17(I think), and school starts again the last week in August. And this year

ALL 5 kids GO TO CAMP!!!!~!!!!!!

ARC can provide workers but we do better on our own. Debbie has been the

aide in the pre-school class all the kidds have been in. My other worker who

comes in week days for 3 hours to help out I found through a friend. She

and her twin are great with the kids. One of the twins is guardian for the

kids when Garry and I go.

Last spring and summer we were switching lots of meds for JJ without much

success. The first day of summer school he got sick, sick , sick. Locals

said it was the flu. On Sunday that week we had a appt. with the geneticist

who thought he might have pancreatitus. We have a friend who was the

children's dr. when we lived in the Bay Area, He took care of putting JJ in

the hospital. Turns out he had moderate dehydration, gastrits, and a major

food infraction. JJ has Celiac Disease and can not have any thing with

gluten in it. He is very reactive. We figure they gave him the wrong lunch

at school. Teacher told the school nurse- " I didn't know that any of the

kids even had allergies " So while in the hospital he refused to take meds,

whidh were a battle anyhow. So he weaned himself. Only thing we do now is

Prozac Weekly.

It is important to have some one in the class the knows about the diet.

Actualy all you need to know is that the only thing he eats comes out of his

back pack.

Got to go look at a class for Sam next year.

& Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (8

ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (5 ds). All adopted.

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Did you try eating some plain yogurt? I am suspicicious of amount of real

yogurt in fruit yogurt but you can mix fruit in the plain yogurt to get more

of the good bacteria you need if you don't like the taste of the tart plain

yogurt.

Lynn Bullock

Re: Diarrehea

>

Hi , sorry if I wasn't very clear. The only thing I did not do

about this problem is going for tests like a stool test and so on,

and I will if things don't change. But I did try different

approaches as to the probable causes. Like I did the Hulda

parasite cleanse, but didn't change the situation. Then I did her

Bowel cleanse, but didn't seem to help either. So, I kind of ruled

out a parasitic or bacterial infestation. Well, maybe. In the last

week things seem to have gotten better, I don't know if for the

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I'm wondering if you've tried the simplest, least expensive and most

effective way of letting the body heal itself -- fasting. Generally, when you

have

diarrhea, your body is telling you that your digestive system needs a rest.

A day or two is all it takes to see if it works. Then when you break the

fast, slowly and gently, you can see what foods disagree with your body. Dairy

(yogurt) of any kind is probably the last thing you should put in your body.

You should do a little research and understand how fasting works before

attempting it on your own. There are many books on the subject and I'm sure

there must be web sites as well.

Ed

In a message dated 1/16/2005 5:52:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jacke703@

hotmail.com writes:

Hi Lynn,

thanks for your advice. Yes, actually, supplementing with probiotics

and yogurt was the first thing I tried. But didn't help. I don't

know... things have gotten much better in the past 10 days, but I

have anyway booked an appointment with a very respected alternative

practitioner, and I will run a few tests. At this point, I am

curious whether it's a bacterial or parasitic problem, or a

metabolic one. I tend to stay away from doctors of any kind, as much

as possible (and I think this also contributed to my good health up

to now), but if I think about all the money I have spent trying to

guess the right approach to tackle this problem....

We'll see...

> Did you try eating some plain yogurt? I am suspicicious of amount

of real

> yogurt in fruit yogurt but you can mix fruit in the plain yogurt

to get more

> of the good bacteria you need if you don't like the taste of the

tart plain

> yogurt.

> Lynn Bullock

>

>

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Hi Lynn,

thanks for your advice. Yes, actually, supplementing with probiotics

and yogurt was the first thing I tried. But didn't help. I don't

know... things have gotten much better in the past 10 days, but I

have anyway booked an appointment with a very respected alternative

practitioner, and I will run a few tests. At this point, I am

curious whether it's a bacterial or parasitic problem, or a

metabolic one. I tend to stay away from doctors of any kind, as much

as possible (and I think this also contributed to my good health up

to now), but if I think about all the money I have spent trying to

guess the right approach to tackle this problem....

We'll see...

> >

> Hi , sorry if I wasn't very clear. The only thing I did not

do

> about this problem is going for tests like a stool test and so

on,

> and I will if things don't change. But I did try different

> approaches as to the probable causes. Like I did the Hulda

> parasite cleanse, but didn't change the situation. Then I did her

> Bowel cleanse, but didn't seem to help either. So, I kind of

ruled

> out a parasitic or bacterial infestation. Well, maybe. In the

last

> week things seem to have gotten better, I don't know if for the

>

>

>

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I've found that lactose intolerance is more common after surgery than I would have thought. It's usually temporary--I tell patients (if diet & symptoms correlate w/ lactose) to use Lactaid milk and/or tablets. Otherwise our surgeon will put patients on a Flagyl regimen. Pancreatic enzymes sometimes work but more so with BPD/DS surgery vs. RYGB.

Kristyn Lassek

Omaha, NETheresa <glenn_glbrt@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,At what point to you get worried about diarrhea the first 1-2 weeks? One pt called and said she was having it about 6 times per day. As she is on pureed food, the only thing I told her was to remember fluids and perhaps try diluted pedialyte to ensure increase intake of electrolytes. I plan to call her back and check on her again but just wasn't sure what else to tell her besides some diarrhea is probalby normal given change in diet and surgery.Thanks in advance!Theresa Gilbert, RDBenefis Healthcare__________________________________________________

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>>> glenn_glbrt@... 02/09/05 09:51AM >>>

Hello everyone,

At what point to you get worried about diarrhea the first 1-2 weeks?

One pt called and said she was having it about 6 times per day. As

she is on pureed food, the only thing I told her was to remember

fluids and perhaps try diluted pedialyte to ensure increase intake

of electrolytes. I plan to call her back and check on her again but

just wasn't sure what else to tell her besides some diarrhea is

probalby normal given change in diet and surgery.

Thanks in advance!

Theresa Gilbert, RD

Benefis Healthcare

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Hi:

If I get diarrhea, I think I'll go for the lactobacillus and

probiotic pill approach. Sourdough has too many carbs and I don't

have any handy baby poo-poo right now. 8-) It seems unlikely that

any bacteria survive the baking of sourdough. Of course, you could

use the poo as a spread on your untoasted sourdough. :-!

At 07:02 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:

>A friend once told me for diarrhea:

>

>Here is an answer to diarrhea that is so simple yet sometimes

>works. Eat sourdough bread 3 X Day. Make sure it says

>it is made with sourdough starter. Do not toast or

>reheat it. Try it. It just may work. You will know

>within days if it works! Tastes great with a little olive oil and

>black pepper sprinkled over it.

>

>Another answer for diarrhea is to insert and inject a

>syringe of baby poop from a one month old baby up into

>your rectum and hold the poop as long as you can. An empty

>fleets enema syringe will work well for this. Make

>sure the baby is breast fed and has not had any

>antibiotics. If it is expelled to soon you may need to try this more

>than once,

>say once a day for three days. Again you will know

>withing a few days if this method works.

>.

>

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One to two tsp of Glutamine powder is an effective remedy for diarrhea. Glutamine is an amino acid. It also aids in irritable bowel syndrome and helps maintain gut function. It is available from numerous buyer's clubs around the country and relatively inexpensive. It is virtually tasteless and easy to mix in juice. I've been on it for years and it has worked well for me as well as friends to whom I have recommended it to.

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Also, if one is dehydrated from too much diarrhea, one might

consider electrolyte supplements like ‘Emergen-C’ available at many

grocery stores, and, of course some buyers clubs. There’s one called ‘Electro

Mix’ made by the same company, Alacer, packaged in a green box. There’s

no sugar like there is in Gatorade. This past summer my best friend came down

with diarrhea followed by severe muscle cramps. I put him on probiotics

(acidophilus), high doses of glutamine, and electro mix. I was surprised at how

fast the Electro Mix worked for the muscle cramps.

Fred Walters, Jr.

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Also, if one is dehydrated from too much diarrhea, one might

consider electrolyte supplements like ‘Emergen-C’ available at many

grocery stores, and, of course some buyers clubs. There’s one called ‘Electro

Mix’ made by the same company, Alacer, packaged in a green box. There’s

no sugar like there is in Gatorade. This past summer my best friend came down

with diarrhea followed by severe muscle cramps. I put him on probiotics

(acidophilus), high doses of glutamine, and electro mix. I was surprised at how

fast the Electro Mix worked for the muscle cramps.

Fred Walters, Jr.

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Also, if one is dehydrated from too much diarrhea, one might considerelectrolyte supplements like 'Emergen-C' available at many grocery stores,Or, Coca Cola! Barrowpozbod@...

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Also, if one is dehydrated from too much diarrhea, one might considerelectrolyte supplements like 'Emergen-C' available at many grocery stores,Or, Coca Cola! Barrowpozbod@...

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Coke?

When you’re sick? Uh, no. In regard to electrolytes, Coke is

nearly twice or three times the cost of Alacer’s Electro Mix. In

addition, Coke Classic contains thirty-nine grams of sugar. Maybe in an

emergency Coke would be a better ‘bad-choice’ if nothing else is

available. But, many times, caffeine might actually worsen the diarrhea. I

try to stay away from Coca-cola. I allow myself to have it twice per

month, usually at the movies.

Coke

Classic:

Carbonated

Water

High Fructose Corn Syrup

Caramel

Color

Phosphoric

Acid

Natural

Flavors

Caffeine

Caffeine Free Diet Coke:

Carbonated

Water

High

Fructose Corn Syrup

Caramel

Color

Phosphoric

Acid

Natural

Flavors

Caffeine

Aspartame (NutraSweet brand)

Potassium

Benzoate

Citric

acid

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Coke?

When you’re sick? Uh, no. In regard to electrolytes, Coke is

nearly twice or three times the cost of Alacer’s Electro Mix. In

addition, Coke Classic contains thirty-nine grams of sugar. Maybe in an

emergency Coke would be a better ‘bad-choice’ if nothing else is

available. But, many times, caffeine might actually worsen the diarrhea. I

try to stay away from Coca-cola. I allow myself to have it twice per

month, usually at the movies.

Coke

Classic:

Carbonated

Water

High Fructose Corn Syrup

Caramel

Color

Phosphoric

Acid

Natural

Flavors

Caffeine

Caffeine Free Diet Coke:

Carbonated

Water

High

Fructose Corn Syrup

Caramel

Color

Phosphoric

Acid

Natural

Flavors

Caffeine

Aspartame (NutraSweet brand)

Potassium

Benzoate

Citric

acid

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my guess (on causation) would be a nasty food-borne bug that needs to run its

course...so lotsa water...dehydration is the biggest threat when in diarrhea

condition, if i remember correctly. strange that your whole family has it. must

be tied to something you all consumed together? KFC? <grin> anyway, make sure to

supplement with vitamins and minerals since your body needs those most.

no advice beyond that as i am not a doc...but the last time i suffered that

malady i drank much water and ate very simple foods that i knew would nourish me

and it was all good after about another 4 days. never take immodium so no

opinion about that regimen.

alan

diarrhea

Hey Gang:

I looked through the archives and couldn't find any info about

diarrhea.

My whole family has it, and we are all starting to get very weak, as

we are now going on day 6! Any advice- what do we eat/drink? what

do we want to avoid? Is Immodium AD a big no-no?

I would really appreciate anything you've got. thanks- sandy

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Sandy,

There is a stomach virus going around that looks just like what you are

describing. After this amount of time it is quite unlikely to be food

poisoning,

so the remedy for that suggested by another poster probably won't help.

From what I've seen, you should be near the end of the bug. Look up

homemade oral rehydration solutions on the web and do those, but STAY AWAY from

the

ones that recommend salt substitute and sugar free Koolaid. Yuck!

Also focus on BRAT: bananas, rice, apples, tea. Which is said to be good

for diarrhea.

Without knowing your specific current symptoms, it would be hard to suggest

a homeopathic remedy, although there are many that are very effective for

diarrhea.

Maybe do some baby rice cereal or rice that is cooked till it falls apart,

add in some orange juice for quick calories and see how you do.

Immodium slows down the digestive tract and if you have a stomach virus

might give you some comfort. I'd never use it for food poisoning because with

that you want to expel the toxic contents of your digestive tract.

HTH

Blessings,

beth

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In a message dated 12/15/2007 12:33:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,

sandymarra@... writes:

Hey Gang:

I looked through the archives and couldn't find any info about

diarrhea.

My whole family has it, and we are all starting to get very weak, as

we are now going on day 6! Any advice- what do we eat/drink? what

do we want to avoid? Is Immodium AD a big no-no?

I would really appreciate anything you've got. thanks- sandy

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I carry activated charcoal and take about four capsules at the first sign of

anything like a food poisoning, about three hours later I take four more.

Usually that catches it. I increase my vitamin C and drink lots of fluids. I

like ginger tea.

Re: diarrhea

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

My brother (Naturopath) gave me Okoubaka (homeopathic) for food poisoning I had

at one time. I now keep it in the house at all times. Works like a charm - it'll

knock it out in about 20 min!

Not sure how quickly you'd be able to find it though, but it's a really great

thing to have in the house " just in case. "

http://naturalhealinghouse.com/pekana_okoubaka.htm

diarrhea

Hey Gang:

I looked through the archives and couldn't find any info about

diarrhea.

My whole family has it, and we are all starting to get very weak, as

we are now going on day 6! Any advice- what do we eat/drink? what

do we want to avoid? Is Immodium AD a big no-no?

I would really appreciate anything you've got. thanks- sandy

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: sk23dance <sandymarra@...>

>

> I looked through the archives and couldn't find any info about

> diarrhea.

> My whole family has it, and we are all starting to get very weak, as

> we are now going on day 6! Any advice- what do we eat/drink? what

> do we want to avoid? Is Immodium AD a big no-no?

The absolutely best thing I've ever found for diarrhea is ginger tea. You can

buy it in teabags (ginger twist is one kind) or you can make your own. When I

make my own ginger tea, I heat water, then let a few small slices of fresh

ginger steep in the hot water. I generally throw in some dried mint leaves, but

use what you have. It may take a bit to play with the amounts to get it how you

can stand to drink it. If it's too strong, add more hot water. You can sweeten

it just a bit with honey if you need to, but don't use too much.

Then, just sip on the tea, don't down a bunch at once. Just a sip at a time.

The idea is kind of like keeping a slow steady drip of it into your digestive

system. Then, as it can be tolerated, I take very small amounts of some kind of

starchy grain like rice or millet (cooked very simply with just water and maybe

a little good salt). Again, don't eat a lot, just nibble on a bit here and

there.

I don't know what it is about this combination, but it has worked great for us.

It seems to soothe the digestive tract. Plus, it help keep hydrated, keeps a

little food going through, and with a good salt (especially something like

himalayan salt) it keeps a good mix of electrolytes going in.

Once, when virtually every one in my office got some major intestinal bug (most

people were out of work for a week with severe vomiting and diarrhea), as soon

as I started feeling nauseous, I started sipping my tea and nibbling on my rice

or millet. I felt kind of yuck for awhile, but I never got diarrhea or

vomited. And I was done with it in 48 hours (versus a week).

Hope you get to feeling better soon.

Terri

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