Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ric: You’re just like most men that I know, that try something new, something they know very little about, they go Gung Ho without any regard for where it is taking them. My GUT was not nearly as bad as yours and for as long as yours either. So by 3 weeks and taking 3 drops daily I began to see some digestion improvements and I wrote it my journal, so that I could share it with others. You said that you’ve had this problem for 15 years or so, is that right? Well, don’t expect big changes in 3 weeks Ric. It’s not going to happen. I suggested you go slowly and take notes but you ignored that. You could even COUNT the BM’s you have each day to see if they get to be less and less. Put that on the calendar each time you go and when you look back, I’m sure you’ll see improvements. If you NOTICE small changes, then you will be encouraged. I also suggested that you CONCENTRATE on the Iodine and give up the other modalities just for now, but that’s not going to happen I guess. Don’t get distracted by other things you want to try. How’re you going to know what’s working if you’re doing 5 different things at once? Let the Iodine do the job and get your GUT HEALTHY before you bring in something else. How do you know that Colloidal Silver and/or Hydrogen Peroxide (and who knows what else) will interfere with the Iodine and the job it was designed to do? You don’t know, right? Also stay away from sugar and dairy as these stimulate your bowels even more. Also LOTS OF FIBER right now is not a good idea. Have you looked into going Gluten-Free? That may make a big difference. Take your Iodine on an empty stomach (like I did) and do it 2 or 3 times a day, so that the bacteria will be killed off SLOWLY and consistently and steadily as it is weakened but this takes time, when you’ve been sick so long. Hang in there and we’ll soon hear that you’re now only having 5 BM’s per day and then 2 BM’s per day until you are normal and that will happen. BE PATIENT. Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Fisher Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:49 PM iodine Subject: Re: Testing iodine on skin Hi Bonnie, I can't say I've seen any huge benefit in my digestion at the moment unfortunately. I still need to go very frequently during the day. My stomach still feels weak and sensitive. As you say, it might be early days. I tend to add an extra drop every 4 days or so. I haven't gone overly slow with the protocol like adding one drop a week like you suggested but nor have I just shot up to 20 drops in one go either. Either way, I'm going to stick to this for a good while longer. Iodine is quite easy to take and doesn't taste that bad. Unlike the 35% hydrogen peroxide protocol i tried previously which was a real pain to fit around one's eating patterns and it tasted like bleach! Not easy at all! I may try making my own iodine too after have watched that video on youtube. Ric From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> iodine Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:56 PM Subject: RE: Testing iodine on skin Ric: Three weeks is NOT enough time for you to have anything concrete in my opinion. You didn’t go slowly like I suggested before. I think your body ACCEPTS the Iodine FAR BETTER, when you go GENTLY and is much easier to monitor any changes that way. Have you not seen any improvements yet, in your digestion? Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:50 PM iodine Subject: Testing iodine on skin Hi, I was hoping for some advice. I've been taking iodine for about 3 weeks now. I'm up to about 7 drops per day with 7% lugols. Sometimes I would take the same amount in the afternoons but I have since started making and drinking colloidal silver in the afternoons. SO far I haven notice any huge difference unfotunately. I am taking it as i have severe digestive problems mainly SIBO, Candida., low stomach acid, which gives me daily diarrhea and cramps etc.. combine that with allergies and it makes me feel quite rough in my day to day life. I put a drop of iodine on my wrist to see how long it would stay there for and it pretty much disappeared with 1hr30mins. My question is does doing a test like that really give you a credible indication as to whether one is low in iodine? And is it true that iodine can help restoring stomach acid production? At the moment I'm in bed with flue like symptoms. I'm hoping this is due to some die off reaction finally rather than just having a winter flu. Any advice would be appreciated. Ric size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> No virus found in this message. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Ric-- I'd say Bonnie's advice here is sound, but I would also like to say that we've had plenty of women on this list go completely gung-ho and have trouble modulating their enthusiasm, even when it was in their best interest to do so, so I don't think it's so much based on gender as Bonnie may ;-) But when you have such a difficult/persistent ult disease, it's not going to be altered immediately. It took me 3 months before I realized how much better I was, even though I did notice small things all along the way. I do think paying attention to the details will help. Bonnie has given advice on digestive illness to a few different people of late and it seems to me she's got some good information to share. just my thoughts. -- (moderator) On 19 Jan 2012 at 23:38, Bonnie Cole wrote: > > > > Ric: > > You´re just like most men that I know, that try something new, > something they know very little about, they go Gung Ho without any > regard for where it is taking them. My GUT was not nearly as bad > as yours and for as long as yours either. So by 3 weeks and taking > 3 drops daily I began to see some digestion improvements and I > wrote it my journal, so that I could share it with others. > > You said that you´ve had this problem for 15 years or so, is > that right? Well, don´t expect big changes in 3 weeks Ric. > It´s not going to happen. > > I suggested you go slowly and take notes but you ignored that. You > could even COUNT the BM´s you have each day to see if they get > to be less and less. Put that on the calendar each time you go and > when you look back, I´m sure you´ll see improvements. > > If you NOTICE small changes, then you will be encouraged. > > I also suggested that you CONCENTRATE on the Iodine and give up > the other modalities just for now, but that´s not going to > happen I guess. > > Don´t get distracted by other things you want to try. How´re > you going to know what´s working if you´re doing 5 different > things at once? Let the Iodine do the job and get your GUT HEALTHY > before you bring in something else. How do you know that Colloidal > Silver and/or Hydrogen Peroxide (and who knows what else) will > interfere with the Iodine and the job it was designed to do?You > don´t know, right? > > Also stay away from sugar and dairy as these stimulate your bowels > even more. Also LOTS OF FIBER right now is not a good idea. Have > you looked into going Gluten-Free? That may make a big difference. > > Take your Iodine on an empty stomach (like I did) and do it 2 or 3 > times a day, so that the bacteria will be killed off SLOWLY and > consistently and steadily as it is weakened but this takes time, > when you´ve been sick so long. > > Hang in there and we´ll soon hear that you´re now only having > 5 BM´s per day and then 2 BM´s per day until you are normal > and that will happen. > > BE PATIENT. > > Bonnie > > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On > Behalf Of Fisher Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:49 PM > iodine Subject: Re: Testing iodine on > skin > > > > Hi Bonnie, > > > > I can't say I've seen any huge benefit in my digestion at the > moment unfortunately. I still need to go very frequently during > the day. My stomach still feels weak and sensitive. > > > > As you say, it might be early days. I tend to add an extra drop > every 4 days or so. I haven't gone overly slow with the protocol > like adding one drop a week like you suggested but nor have I just > shot up to 20 drops in one go either. Either way, I'm going to > stick to this for a good while longer. Iodine is quite easy to > take and doesn't taste that bad. Unlike the 35% hydrogen peroxide > protocol i tried previously which was a real pain to fit around > one's eating patterns and it tasted like bleach! Not easy at all! > > > > I may try making my own iodine too after have watched that video > on youtube. > > > > Ric > > > > > > From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> > iodine > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:56 PM > Subject: RE: Testing iodine on skin > > > > Ric: > > > > Three weeks is NOT enough time for you to have anything concrete > in my opinion. You didn´t go slowly like I suggested before. I > think your body ACCEPTS the Iodine FAR BETTER, when you go GENTLY > and is much easier to monitor any changes that way. > > > > Have you not seen any improvements yet, in your digestion? > > > > Bonnie > > > > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On > Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:50 PM To: > iodine Subject: Testing iodine on skin > > > > > > > Hi, > > I was hoping for some advice. > > I've been taking iodine for about 3 weeks now. I'm up to about 7 > drops per day with 7% lugols. Sometimes I would take the same > amount in the afternoons but I have since started making and > drinking colloidal silver in the afternoons. SO far I haven notice > any huge difference unfotunately. > > I am taking it as i have severe digestive problems mainly SIBO, > Candida., low stomach acid, which gives me daily diarrhea and > cramps etc.. combine that with allergies and it makes me feel > quite rough in my day to day life. > > I put a drop of iodine on my wrist to see how long it would stay > there for and it pretty much disappeared with 1hr30mins. > > My question is does doing a test like that really give you a > credible indication as to whether one is low in iodine? > > And is it true that iodine can help restoring stomach acid > production? > > At the moment I'm in bed with flue like symptoms. I'm hoping this > is due to some die off reaction finally rather than just having a > winter flu. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Ric > > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date: > 01/19/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date: > 01/19/12 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hi /Bonnie, Thanks for the suggestions. YOu are both right, I am trying many different things at once. I used to take the 'go slow and patience' methodology but I can't do that anymore. |I'm desperate just to see some improvements. So adding one drop a week of iodine would just take way too long. Bonnie, I am already wheat and gluten free. I do eat oats though as I need to try and maintain my weight so I find porridge as a good way to pack in some calories along with nuts and olive oil. I also take milk kefir and probiotics and eat lactose free products. I will definitely persist with the iodine and will take on board what Bonnie said about taking throughout the day. I'm up to 8 drops of 7% pecent lugols in distilled water at the moment and for the last two days I have been taking 5 drops before bed. (It doesn't affect my sleeping patterns). Does iodine have any effect on good bacteria at all?? I currently have a head cold and chest infection and am hoping that this may be a detox reaction and that I am killing off some nasties. But knowing my luck it's probably just a wintery cold!!I will keep you informed of my progress and thanks as always for all the advice and concernRic From: Baker <vbaker@...> iodine Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:29 AM Subject: Re: Testing iodine on skin+ Ric-- I'd say Bonnie's advice here is sound, but I would also like to say that we've had plenty of women on this list go completely gung-ho and have trouble modulating their enthusiasm, even when it was in their best interest to do so, so I don't think it's so much based on gender as Bonnie may ;-) But when you have such a difficult/persistent ult disease, it's not going to be altered immediately. It took me 3 months before I realized how much better I was, even though I did notice small things all along the way. I do think paying attention to the details will help. Bonnie has given advice on digestive illness to a few different people of late and it seems to me she's got some good information to share. just my thoughts. -- (moderator) On 19 Jan 2012 at 23:38, Bonnie Cole wrote: > > > > Ric: > > You´re just like most men that I know, that try something new, > something they know very little about, they go Gung Ho without any > regard for where it is taking them. My GUT was not nearly as bad > as yours and for as long as yours either. So by 3 weeks and taking > 3 drops daily I began to see some digestion improvements and I > wrote it my journal, so that I could share it with others. > > You said that you´ve had this problem for 15 years or so, is > that right? Well, don´t expect big changes in 3 weeks Ric. > It´s not going to happen. > > I suggested you go slowly and take notes but you ignored that. You > could even COUNT the BM´s you have each day to see if they get > to be less and less. Put that on the calendar each time you go and > when you look back, I´m sure you´ll see improvements. > > If you NOTICE small changes, then you will be encouraged. > > I also suggested that you CONCENTRATE on the Iodine and give up > the other modalities just for now, but that´s not going to > happen I guess. > > Don´t get distracted by other things you want to try. How´re > you going to know what´s working if you´re doing 5 different > things at once? Let the Iodine do the job and get your GUT HEALTHY > before you bring in something else. How do you know that Colloidal > Silver and/or Hydrogen Peroxide (and who knows what else) will > interfere with the Iodine and the job it was designed to do?You > don´t know, right? > > Also stay away from sugar and dairy as these stimulate your bowels > even more. Also LOTS OF FIBER right now is not a good idea. Have > you looked into going Gluten-Free? That may make a big difference. > > Take your Iodine on an empty stomach (like I did) and do it 2 or 3 > times a day, so that the bacteria will be killed off SLOWLY and > consistently and steadily as it is weakened but this takes time, > when you´ve been sick so long. > > Hang in there and we´ll soon hear that you´re now only having > 5 BM´s per day and then 2 BM´s per day until you are normal > and that will happen. > > BE PATIENT. > > Bonnie > > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On > Behalf Of Fisher Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:49 PM > iodine Subject: Re: Testing iodine on > skin > > > > Hi Bonnie, > > > > I can't say I've seen any huge benefit in my digestion at the > moment unfortunately. I still need to go very frequently during > the day. My stomach still feels weak and sensitive. > > > > As you say, it might be early days. I tend to add an extra drop > every 4 days or so. I haven't gone overly slow with the protocol > like adding one drop a week like you suggested but nor have I just > shot up to 20 drops in one go either. Either way, I'm going to > stick to this for a good while longer. Iodine is quite easy to > take and doesn't taste that bad. Unlike the 35% hydrogen peroxide > protocol i tried previously which was a real pain to fit around > one's eating patterns and it tasted like bleach! Not easy at all! > > > > I may try making my own iodine too after have watched that video > on youtube. > > > > Ric > > > > > > From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> > iodine > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:56 PM > Subject: RE: Testing iodine on skin > > > > Ric: > > > > Three weeks is NOT enough time for you to have anything concrete > in my opinion. You didn´t go slowly like I suggested before. I > think your body ACCEPTS the Iodine FAR BETTER, when you go GENTLY > and is much easier to monitor any changes that way. > > > > Have you not seen any improvements yet, in your digestion? > > > > Bonnie > > > > > > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On > Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:50 PM To: > iodine Subject: Testing iodine on skin > > > > > > > Hi, > > I was hoping for some advice. > > I've been taking iodine for about 3 weeks now. I'm up to about 7 > drops per day with 7% lugols. Sometimes I would take the same > amount in the afternoons but I have since started making and > drinking colloidal silver in the afternoons. SO far I haven notice > any huge difference unfotunately. > > I am taking it as i have severe digestive problems mainly SIBO, > Candida., low stomach acid, which gives me daily diarrhea and > cramps etc.. combine that with allergies and it makes me feel > quite rough in my day to day life. > > I put a drop of iodine on my wrist to see how long it would stay > there for and it pretty much disappeared with 1hr30mins. > > My question is does doing a test like that really give you a > credible indication as to whether one is low in iodine? > > And is it true that iodine can help restoring stomach acid > production? > > At the moment I'm in bed with flue like symptoms. I'm hoping this > is due to some die off reaction finally rather than just having a > winter flu. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Ric > > > size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date: > 01/19/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date: > 01/19/12 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012  Hi Ric, Iodine does not hurt our good bacteria, it only kills the bad. Remember it is a natural element and not a drug. You can try the Salt Loading Protocol to help you get over your cold symptoms . ( Colds are actually the bodies way of detoxifying). Best, -Kathleen moderator Testing iodine on skin> > > > > > > Hi, > > I was hoping for some advice. > > I've been taking iodine for about 3 weeks now. I'm up to about 7> drops per day with 7% lugols. Sometimes I would take the same> amount in the afternoons but I have since started making and> drinking colloidal silver in the afternoons. SO far I haven notice> any huge difference unfotunately. > > I am taking it as i have severe digestive problems mainly SIBO,> Candida., low stomach acid, which gives me daily diarrhea and> cramps etc.. combine that with allergies and it makes me feel> quite rough in my day to day life. > > I put a drop of iodine on my wrist to see how long it would stay> there for and it pretty much disappeared with 1hr30mins. > > My question is does doing a test like that really give you a> credible indication as to whether one is low in iodine? > > And is it true that iodine can help restoring stomach acid> production?> > At the moment I'm in bed with flue like symptoms. I'm hoping this> is due to some die off reaction finally rather than just having a> winter flu. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Ric> > > size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date:> 01/19/12> > > > > > > > > > > > > size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4753 - Release Date:> 01/19/12> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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