Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Glad to help. I started with about 3mg a day (1 drop of 2% Lugol's) and slowly worked my way up so that I could titer the dose and avoid intense detox. ALso, there is perpetual misunderstanding about the unrefined salt supplement. Try as we might, we don't seem to be able to change this. There are two uses of unrefined salt in the iodine protocol. 1. Every day supplementation of 1/2 tsp every day no matter what, plus liberal use on food. With adrenal exhaustion, you need to increase your salt intake even higher. I used at least 1 TABLESPOON every day, sometimes a lot more, and lots on food. Unrefined salt cannot hurt you. It's the refined stuff that throws your mineral balance off and therefore causes illness. I could go on and on about unrefined vs. refined salt but it is IMPERATIVE that you take the daily supplement. 2. IF AND WHEN detox symptoms show up, one can " salt load " to stimulate urination and wash the detox byproducts out of the body, thus relieving the symptoms. Salt loading is done on an as-needed basis, OVER AND ABOVE the daily supplement intake. So for instance if you get a detox headache, you can salt load and once urination starts the headache should fade. In fact, you can be sure that your symptom is bromide detox if it does fade with the salt loading. However, some detox symptoms are too deep to respond to salt loading, so not all bromide detox symptoms will fade with salt loading. The bromide acne is one-- once the acne process is started in the skin, it will take more than just salt loading to reverse and heal. Generally speaking, if acne shows up, you need to back off on the dose and work on your detox pathways, which includes soaking your dose at a lower level in order for the body to catch up. hope this helps, -- moderator On 23 Jan 2012 at 0:48, health43mj wrote: > > Wow, thank you so much for sharing your story! I've always felt like > there was some piece to this puzzle that I was missing, maybe the > iodine will be it! > > I tried iodine once before but was not taking the companion nutrients > and started out with about 36 mg for 2-3 days. I had a bad detox > reaction for 5 days after stopping the iodoral! I've been preparing to > try again and may start out with only 6 mg 5 days on and 2-3 days off, > depending on how I feel. After reading your post I'm sure I was not > doing the sea salt flushes enough either. Only 1/4 to 1/2 tsp a day. > > Thanks again! Im going to start tomorrow! > > MJ > > > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without > > > it " and read through the iodine protocol several times. The > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts > should go to the IodineOT group > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 How do you take the tablespoon of salt. In the protocol, it gives instructions, but seems to say to only do it for three days. I use a lot of salt on my food, but didn't realize to take it as a supplement in addition. Any help would be appreciated. I have difficulty with adrenals, so this could help if I get the right instructions. Thanks so much, Tom > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without > > > > it " and read through the iodine protocol several times. The > > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Im starting to wonder if my sea salt is really unrefined. I bought it at whole foods and it says Celtic fine ground sea salt, but no where on the bag does it say unrefined. It is mostly white, just very slightly speckled with a little gray in it. I also have Himalyan sea salt from SunFoods that is very pink but also does not say unrefined on the bag. (I haven't been using the pink one because someone cautioned me that it had flouride in it if pink) I seem to get more of a headache when I take the Celtic sea salt that's why I don't take that much and sometimes skip it. I actually feel dehydrated if I take too much. Hmm. I bet it is a mix of refined and unrefined. I will switch to the pink one and see if I feel better with that. I also cut my 12.5 iodoral into 4 pieces to start off slow. Today I did take 6 mg and have a slight headache and stiff neck, but that is not that uncommon for me to feel that way without detoxing. I better switch to the Himalyan salt, I don't trust the Celtic sea salt from Whole Foods after I really looked at its color. Mj > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without > > > > it " and read through the iodine protocol several times. The > > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hi MJ, I would think your Celtic fine ground salt is unrefined as refined salt has no speckles in it, nor is it a little gray. Refined salt is always a pure white colour. I have never seen refined Celtic Salt. And when Celtic salt is fine ground, it can appear whiter than when the Celtic is left unground in the bigger clumpy crystals. In other words, I would guess your Celtic salt is fine. There are many conflicting reports about Himalayan salt being naturally high in fluoride, so I personally won't use it. But it is a personal choice, of course. If you are not sure about your Celtic Salt from Whole Foods, you could call them and ask your questions about it. Best, -Kathleen moderator Re: Stable adrenals before starting iodoral? Im starting to wonder if my sea salt is really unrefined. I bought it at whole foods and it says Celtic fine ground sea salt, but no where on the bag does it say unrefined. It is mostly white, just very slightly speckled with a little gray in it. I also have Himalyan sea salt from SunFoods that is very pink but also does not say unrefined on the bag. (I haven't been using the pink one because someone cautioned me that it had flouride in it if pink) I seem to get more of a headache when I take the Celtic sea salt that's why I don't take that much and sometimes skip it. I actually feel dehydrated if I take too much. Hmm. I bet it is a mix of refined and unrefined. I will switch to the pink one and see if I feel better with that. I also cut my 12.5 iodoral into 4 pieces to start off slow. Today I did take 6 mg and have a slight headache and stiff neck, but that is not that uncommon for me to feel that way without detoxing. I better switch to the Himalyan salt, I don't trust the Celtic sea salt from Whole Foods after I really looked at its color. Mj > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals> > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal> > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking> > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals> > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating> > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years> > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and> > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a> > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been> > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > >> > have and read "Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without >> > > it" and read through the iodine protocol several times. The> > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand,> > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the> > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very> > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > >> > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker,> > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts> > should go to the IodineOT group > >> > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW> > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > >> > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2> > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Thanks, I looked the brand up on line and it is dried at low temperatures but not refined. Selina Naturally is the name. I think you are right about the fine ground just looking more white. I'm going to be more consistent with the sea salt and see how I feel. It is so easy to develop " theories " about what is making me feel worse and stop something that I really need. Thanks MJ > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals > > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and > > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a > > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without > > > > > it " and read through the iodine protocol several times. The > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health./gr\ oup/IodineOT/> > > > > > > The NEW > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 MJ, good! Selina Naturally is a very good brand you can trust! Glad you looked it up! Best, Kathleen moderator Re: Stable adrenals before starting iodoral? Thanks, I looked the brand up on line and it is dried at low temperatures but not refined. Selina Naturally is the name. I think you are right about the fine ground just looking more white. I'm going to be more consistent with the sea salt and see how I feel. It is so easy to develop "theories" about what is making me feel worse and stop something that I really need. ThanksMJ > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals> > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal> > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking> > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals> > > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating> > > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years> > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and> > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a> > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been> > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > >> > > have and read "Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without >> > > > it" and read through the iodine protocol several times. The> > > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand,> > > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the> > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very> > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > >> > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker,> > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts> > > should go to the IodineOT group > >> > > IodineOT/<IodineOT/> > > > > > > The NEW> > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > >> > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2> > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 The term " Celtic sea salt " is legally required to be actually Celtic sea salt, so I doubt there is really a problem with your salt. But different people respond differently to different unrefined salts. I suggest trying Redmond's Real Salt. -- On 23 Jan 2012 at 17:20, health43mj wrote: > Im starting to wonder if my sea salt is really unrefined. I bought it > at whole foods and it says Celtic fine ground sea salt, but no where > on the bag does it say unrefined. It is mostly white, just very > slightly speckled with a little gray in it. I also have Himalyan sea > salt from SunFoods that is very pink but also does not say unrefined > on the bag. (I haven't been using the pink one because someone > cautioned me that it had flouride in it if pink) I seem to get more > of a headache when I take the Celtic sea salt that's why I don't take > that much and sometimes skip it. I actually feel dehydrated if I take > too much. Hmm. I bet it is a mix of refined and unrefined. I will > switch to the pink one and see if I feel better with that. I also cut > my 12.5 iodoral into 4 pieces to start off slow. Today I did take 6 > mg and have a slight headache and stiff neck, but that is not that > uncommon for me to feel that way without detoxing. I better switch to > the Himalyan salt, I don't trust the Celtic sea salt from Whole Foods > after I really looked at its color. > > Mj > > > > > I'm still working on > getting my adrenals > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order > to get up to my optimal > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the > adrenals group) I'm taking > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > > need to wait until my adrenals > > and thyroid are optimal before > starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > 100% gluten free for a year > now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > before that. I do not > have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and > > completed mercury > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a > > water filter that > gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been > > taking a scoop of > UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > > > > have and read > " Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without > > > > it " and > read through the iodine protocol several times. The > > detoxing > > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > the > iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic > posts > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm sorry, but you're misinterpreting the material in the Guide. there are, as I've said, two different ways that salt is used in the iodine protocol, one as a daily supplement, and two as a temporary additional amount to fight detox symptoms. You're mixing up the two. There is a list of companion nutrients. Unrefined salt is on that list. Those are to be taken every day. I take my daily salt supplement (1/2 tsp a day now that my adrenals recovered) in water and drink it down. When I was taking a tablespoon and more a day, I did the same thing, just divided it over the day. One way to do it is to measure your supplement amount for the day and make sure you take the whole thing, either on food or in water or put it in gelcaps and swallow it down, or some people just take a pinch in their mouth many times during the day. It's up to you what works best. clearer? -- On 23 Jan 2012 at 16:19, tom_croyle wrote: > How do you take the tablespoon of salt. In the protocol, it gives > instructions, but seems to say to only do it for three days. I use a > lot of salt on my food, but didn't realize to take it as a supplement > in addition. Any help would be appreciated. I have difficulty with > adrenals, so this could help if I get the right instructions. > > Thanks so much, > Tom > > > > > I'm still working on > getting my adrenals > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order > to get up to my optimal > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the > adrenals group) I'm taking > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > > need to wait until my adrenals > > and thyroid are optimal before > starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > 100% gluten free for a year > now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > before that. I do not > have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and > > completed mercury > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a > > water filter that > gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been > > taking a scoop of > UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > > > > have and read > " Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without > > > > it " and > read through the iodine protocol several times. The > > detoxing > > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > the > iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic > posts > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Just wanted to let you guys know that I am feeling better after only 3 days on the iodine (3 mg)!!!!! My mood is better, my head feels less heavy, and although I'm still tired after work, I'm not experiencing as many of the symptoms that go along withmy fatigue like brain fog, heavy head, and frustration/irritability. I increased my sea salt intake to 1/2 tsp a.m, sea salt flush before lunch, and I'm drinking about twice as much water as before. Should I do the 3 mg for about 2 weeks before increasing? I'm feeling pretty hopeful!! Thank you so much! MJ > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > > > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and > > > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a > > > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine protocol several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health./gr\ oup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http://health.grou\ ps./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 That's great, MJ. Iodine does make a big difference in mental clarity for me too. in AlaskaOn Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM, health43mj <mjsieber@...> wrote: Â Just wanted to let you guys know that I am feeling better after only 3 days on the iodine (3 mg)!!!!! My mood is better, my head feels less heavy, and although I'm still tired after work, I'm not experiencing as many of the symptoms that go along withmy fatigue like brain fog, heavy head, and frustration/irritability. I increased my sea salt intake to 1/2 tsp a.m, sea salt flush before lunch, and I'm drinking about twice as much water as before. Should I do the 3 mg for about 2 weeks before increasing? I'm feeling pretty hopeful!! Thank you so much! MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hi MJ, 3 mg is a very tiny dose. Why are you starting so small? It's totally up to you, of course, but many start higher (12 mg or even 50mg.) There is no reason to wait weeks before increasing. One question, you wrote you did a salt flush before lunch. Did you mean you did the Salt Loading Protocol? If that is what you meant, please realize that the Salt Protocol is only done when one is experiencing detox symptoms, as written about in the Guide to SUpplementing with Iodine in our Files. Daily, however you do want to take about 1/2 tsp or more of Celtic salt (this can be taken on your food throughout the day, or in one gulp in water, or both. Are you taking the other companion supplements? Please be sure you do. Happy to hear you are feeling better! Please do keep us up to date! Best, Kathleen moderator Re: Stable adrenals before starting iodoral? Just wanted to let you guys know that I am feeling better after only 3 days on the iodine (3 mg)!!!!! My mood is better, my head feels less heavy, and although I'm still tired after work, I'm not experiencing as many of the symptoms that go along withmy fatigue like brain fog, heavy head, and frustration/irritability. I increased my sea salt intake to 1/2 tsp a.m, sea salt flush before lunch, and I'm drinking about twice as much water as before. Should I do the 3 mg for about 2 weeks before increasing? I'm feeling pretty hopeful!! Thank you so much! MJ > > > I'm still working on getting my adrenals> > > > stable and improving iron > > levels in order to get up to my optimal> > > > dose of NTH. (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking> > > > all the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals> > > > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating> > > > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years> > > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore and> > > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also have a> > > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > been> > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days now. I > >> > > > have and read "Iodine why we need it and why we can't live without >> > > > > it" and read through the iodine protocol several times. The> > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on my adrenals, but on the other hand,> > > > the iodine > > could help with my thyroid which in turn could help the> > > > adrenals. It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very> > > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > >> > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker,> > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts> > > > should go to the IodineOT group > >> > > > IodineOT/<IodineOT/><IodineOT/<IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW> > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > >> > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2> > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Yes, just to reinforce that you can increase the dose as you wish and feel comfortable. If you start to feel detox symptoms, just back down the dose a bit. The iodine won't hurt you, so it's really only the detox symptoms that determine how much/how fast. I'm an advocate for starting at low levels, but you will be amazed at the good things that happen for you once you get above 25mg. I too had brain fog that was addressed by LDN for me, but it wasn't until the iodine protocol that it really went away and I got loads of energy (and subsequently lost 30 unwanted pounds without trying). -- On 24 Jan 2012 at 18:15, Kathleen Blake wrote: > > > > Hi MJ, > 3 mg is a very tiny dose. Why are you starting so small? It's totally > up to you, of > course, but many start higher (12 mg or even 50mg.) There is no reason > to wait weeks before increasing. One question, you wrote you did a > salt flush before lunch. Did you mean you did the Salt Loading > Protocol? If that is what you meant, please realize that the Salt > Protocol is only done when one is experiencing detox symptoms, as > written about in the Guide to SUpplementing with Iodine in our Files. > Daily, however you do want to take about 1/2 tsp or more of Celtic > salt (this can be taken on your food throughout the day, or in one > gulp in water, or both. Are you taking the other companion > supplements? Please be sure you do. > Happy to hear you are feeling better! Please do keep us up to date! > Best, Kathleen moderator > Re: Stable adrenals before starting iodoral? > > > > Just wanted to let you guys know that I am feeling better after only 3 > days on the iodine (3 mg)!!!!! My mood is better, my head feels less > heavy, and although I'm still tired after work, I'm not experiencing > as many of the symptoms that go along withmy fatigue like brain fog, > heavy head, and frustration/irritability. > > I increased my sea salt intake to 1/2 tsp a.m, sea salt flush before > lunch, and I'm drinking about twice as much water as before. Should I > do the 3 mg for about 2 weeks before increasing? I'm feeling pretty > hopeful!! Thank you so much! > > MJ > > > > > I'm still > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. (getting > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all the companion > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > and thyroid > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > > > 100% > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > > > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > and > > > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > have a > > > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > been > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > now. I > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > can't live without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > protocol several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard to > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > hoo.com/g > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 <<<but it wasn't until the iodine protocol that it really went away and I got loads of energy (and subsequently lost 30 unwanted pounds without trying).>> , Do you think this is because the fat tissue released toxins once you started the iodine? Beth_____________ Yes, just to reinforce that you can increase the dose as you wish and feel comfortable. If you start to feel detox symptoms, just back down the dose a bit. The iodine won't hurt you, so it's really only the detox symptoms that determine how much/how fast.I'm an advocate for starting at low levels, but you will be amazed at the good things that happen for you once you get above 25mg. I too had brain fog that was addressed by LDN for me, but it wasn't until the iodine protocol that it really went away and I got loads of energy (and subsequently lost 30 unwanted pounds without trying).--On 24 Jan 2012 at 18:15, Kathleen Blake wrote:> > > > Hi MJ,> 3 mg is a very tiny dose. Why are you starting so small? It's totally> up to you, of > course, but many start higher (12 mg or even 50mg.) There is no reason> to wait weeks before increasing. One question, you wrote you did a> salt flush before lunch. Did you mean you did the Salt Loading> Protocol? If that is what you meant, please realize that the Salt> Protocol is only done when one is experiencing detox symptoms, as> written about in the Guide to SUpplementing with Iodine in our Files.> Daily, however you do want to take about 1/2 tsp or more of Celtic> salt (this can be taken on your food throughout the day, or in one> gulp in water, or both. Are you taking the other companion> supplements? Please be sure you do.> Happy to hear you are feeling better! Please do keep us up to date!> Best, Kathleen moderator> Re: Stable adrenals before starting iodoral?> > > > Just wanted to let you guys know that I am feeling better after only 3> days on the iodine (3 mg)!!!!! My mood is better, my head feels less> heavy, and although I'm still tired after work, I'm not experiencing> as many of the symptoms that go along withmy fatigue like brain fog,> heavy head, and frustration/irritability. > > I increased my sea salt intake to 1/2 tsp a.m, sea salt flush before> lunch, and I'm drinking about twice as much water as before. Should I> do the 3 mg for about 2 weeks before increasing? I'm feeling pretty> hopeful!! Thank you so much! > > MJ> > > > > I'm still> working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > >> levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. (getting> help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all the companion> nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > and thyroid> are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > > > 100%> gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > >> > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore> and > > > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also> have a > > > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also >> > been > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days> now. I > > > > > > have and read "Iodine why we need it and why we> can't live without > > > > > > it" and read through the iodine> protocol several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on> my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help> with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > >> is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard to> determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I think clearly the fat tissue released toxins and reduced, but I think the mechanism for that happening was my metabolism finally got to a normal functional level (which is thyroid function), definitely because of the iodine protocol. -- moderator On 25 Jan 2012 at 7:14, BJDMohr wrote: > > > > <<<but it wasn't until the iodine > protocol that it really went away and I got loads of energy (and > subsequently lost 30 unwanted pounds without trying).>> > > , > > Do you think this is because the fat tissue released toxins once you > started the iodine? > > Beth > _____________ > > Yes, just to reinforce that you can increase the dose as you wish and > feel comfortable. If you start to feel detox symptoms, just back down > the dose a bit. The iodine won't hurt you, so it's really only the > detox symptoms that determine how much/how fast. > > I'm an advocate for starting at low levels, but you will be amazed at > the good things that happen for you once you get above 25mg. > > I too had brain fog that was addressed by LDN for me, but it wasn't > until the iodine protocol that it really went away and I got loads of > energy (and subsequently lost 30 unwanted pounds without trying). > > -- > > On 24 Jan 2012 at 18:15, Kathleen Blake wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi MJ, > > 3 mg is a very tiny dose. Why are you starting so small? It's > > totally up to you, of course, but many start higher (12 mg or even > > 50mg.) There is no reason to wait weeks before increasing. One > > question, you wrote you did a salt flush before lunch. Did you mean > > you did the Salt Loading Protocol? If that is what you meant, please > > realize that the Salt Protocol is only done when one is experiencing > > detox symptoms, as written about in the Guide to SUpplementing with > > Iodine in our Files. Daily, however you do want to take about 1/2 > > tsp or more of Celtic salt (this can be taken on your food > > throughout the day, or in one gulp in water, or both. Are you taking > > the other companion supplements? Please be sure you do. Happy to > > hear you are feeling better! Please do keep us up to date! Best, > > Kathleen moderator Re: Stable adrenals before starting iodoral? > > > > > > > > Just wanted to let you guys know that I am feeling better after only > > 3 days on the iodine (3 mg)!!!!! My mood is better, my head feels > > less heavy, and although I'm still tired after work, I'm not > > experiencing as many of the symptoms that go along withmy fatigue > > like brain fog, heavy head, and frustration/irritability. > > > > I increased my sea salt intake to 1/2 tsp a.m, sea salt flush before > > lunch, and I'm drinking about twice as much water as before. Should > > I do the 3 mg for about 2 weeks before increasing? I'm feeling > > pretty hopeful!! Thank you so much! > > > > MJ > > > > > > > I'm still > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > (getting help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > the companion nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > > > and thyroid are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been > > eating > > > > 100% gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > > > also have a > > > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've > > also > > > > been > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 > > > days > > now. I > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful > > on my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could > > help with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. > > It > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > > > hard to determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I think I am on day 5 of taking 3 mg daily and today is the first day with detox symptoms. I also did not get much sleep last night so I could just be feeling bad from that too. More tired and irritable, sleepy, achy and stiff, and burning eyes with mild headache. I just did one round of the sea salt protocol to help. I was also wondering if there was anything I should know regarding temping while taking the iodoral? Based on some advise from the adrenal group I'm going to make some changes like adding in 450 mg of licorice and slightly increasing my nature throid. Will the iodoral increase my temp as I increase the dose? I'm going to start back at temping tomorrow before i make the changes. The adrenals group does not recommend taking iodine so I was not given any feedback regarding the iodine. I only take 64 mg of nature throid and my recent labs for my thyroid were still so low. Thanks MJ > > > I'm still > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > have a > > > > water filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > > been > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard to > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, > > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic > > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > > hoo.com/g > > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 It sounds like you're not taking the daily unrefined salt supplement. Are you? Not getting sleep will create all those symptoms. It is normal for detox symptoms to be delayed even 10-14 days at a new dose. It varies with the individual. Many people have their temp raise to a healthy level once they get enough iodine on board every day. Extra daily salt, Vit E, extra Vit C are all good for adrenal support. -- moderator On 27 Jan 2012 at 23:51, health43mj wrote: > > I think I am on day 5 of taking 3 mg daily and today is the first day > with detox symptoms. I also did not get much sleep last night so I > could just be feeling bad from that too. More tired and irritable, > sleepy, achy and stiff, and burning eyes with mild headache. I just > did one round of the sea salt protocol to help. > > I was also wondering if there was anything I should know regarding > temping while taking the iodoral? Based on some advise from the > adrenal group I'm going to make some changes like adding in 450 mg of > licorice and slightly increasing my nature throid. Will the iodoral > increase my temp as I increase the dose? I'm going to start back at > temping tomorrow before i make the changes. The adrenals group does > not recommend taking iodine so I was not given any feedback regarding > the iodine. I only take 64 mg of nature throid and my recent labs for > my thyroid were still so low. > > Thanks > MJ > > > > > > > I'm still > > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > have a > > > > water > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > > been > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live > without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol > several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > to > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: > Baker, > > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > All off topic > > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > > > hoo.com/g > > > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > > > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I take 1/2 tsp sea salt each morning as soon as I wake up and sometimes do another 1/4 tsp later in the day. it gags me if it is too strong so I have to mix it with a lot of water. As a result, I can't drink it too late in the evening or too close to my meals. I will try to increase at least to 1 tsp a day and see how that goes. I also put a lot of sea salt on my food. Still not feeling so great today, but there are so many factors that could be contributing. It is close to ovulation and I usually feel worse at this time of the month. My doctor also gave me something for digestive health that has grapeseed extract in it, so this could be some kind of die off. My doctor recommended a mineral supplement that I started on Friday and it already has 200 mcg of potassium iodide so technically I increased my iodine from 3 mg to 5 mg. I just looked at the bottle and realized! I have off tomorrow and I plan on taking a break form the iodoral and taking more sea salt. Can't wait to go to bed early tonight! My dog is better now so he should not be waking me up to go outside because of diarrhea! MJ > > > I'm still > > > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've > > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any > > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury > > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > have a > > > > water > > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > > been > > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live > > without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol > > several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > > adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > > to > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: > > Baker, > > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > All off topic > > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > > > > hoo.com/g > > > > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > > > > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Is 200mcg equal to 0.2mg or to 2mg? in AlaskaOn Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:10 PM, health43mj <mjsieber@...> wrote: Â I take 1/2 tsp sea salt each morning as soon as I wake up and sometimes do another 1/4 tsp later in the day. it gags me if it is too strong so I have to mix it with a lot of water. As a result, I can't drink it too late in the evening or too close to my meals. I will try to increase at least to 1 tsp a day and see how that goes. I also put a lot of sea salt on my food. Still not feeling so great today, but there are so many factors that could be contributing. It is close to ovulation and I usually feel worse at this time of the month. My doctor also gave me something for digestive health that has grapeseed extract in it, so this could be some kind of die off. My doctor recommended a mineral supplement that I started on Friday and it already has 200 mcg of potassium iodide so technically I increased my iodine from 3 mg to 5 mg. I just looked at the bottle and realized! I have off tomorrow and I plan on taking a break form the iodoral and taking more sea salt. Can't wait to go to bed early tonight! My dog is better now so he should not be waking me up to go outside because of diarrhea! MJ > > > I'm still > > > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've > > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any > > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury > > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > have a > > > > water > > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > > been > > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live > > without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol > > several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > > adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > > to > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: > > Baker, > > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > All off topic > > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > > > > hoo.com/g > > > > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > > > > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 200mcg is only 0.2mg in NS, Canada At 09:32 PM 28/01/12, you wrote: Is 200mcg equal to 0.2mg or to 2mg? in Alaska On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:10 PM, health43mj <mjsieber@...> wrote: I take 1/2 tsp sea salt each morning as soon as I wake up and sometimes do another 1/4 tsp later in the day. it gags me if it is too strong so I have to mix it with a lot of water. As a result, I can't drink it too late in the evening or too close to my meals. I will try to increase at least to 1 tsp a day and see how that goes. I also put a lot of sea salt on my food. Still not feeling so great today, but there are so many factors that could be contributing. It is close to ovulation and I usually feel worse at this time of the month. My doctor also gave me something for digestive health that has grapeseed extract in it, so this could be some kind of die off. My doctor recommended a mineral supplement that I started on Friday and it already has 200 mcg of potassium iodide so technically I increased my iodine from 3 mg to 5 mg. I just looked at the bottle and realized! I have off tomorrow and I plan on taking a break form the iodoral and taking more sea salt. Can't wait to go to bed early tonight! My dog is better now so he should not be waking me up to go outside because of diarrhea! MJ > > > I'm still > > > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've > > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any > > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury > > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > have a > > > > water > > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > > been > > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live > > without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol > > several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > > adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > > to > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Oh, I think you might be right. That is only .2 mg! That's nothing! MJ > > > I'm still > > > > > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > > > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > > > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've > > > > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any > > > > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury > > > > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > have a > > > > water > > > > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > > been > > > > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live > > > > without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol > > > > several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > > > > adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > > > > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > > > > to > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: > > > > Baker, > > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > > > All off topic > > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > > > > > > hoo.com/g > > > > > > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > > > > > > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I wasn't really suggesting that you take more than the suggested salt supplement, just wanted to make sure you're taking it. 200mcg is 2/10s of 1mg, so no you didn't go from 3 to 5mg. Fatigue and feeling out of sorts are both bromide detox symptoms. But if you normally feel bad at this time of the month, please don't blame the iodine now. That's what Western medicine does, is blame iodine any time anyone has the tiniest amount of it. You have normal legitimate reasons for feeling bad. Or, even at your very lose dose, it could be some bromide detox. -- On 29 Jan 2012 at 0:10, health43mj wrote: > > I take 1/2 tsp sea salt each morning as soon as I wake up and > sometimes do another 1/4 tsp later in the day. it gags me if it is > too strong so I have to mix it with a lot of water. As a result, I > can't drink it too late in the evening or too close to my meals. I > will try to increase at least to 1 tsp a day and see how that goes. I > also put a lot of sea salt on my food. > > Still not feeling so great today, but there are so many factors that > could be contributing. It is close to ovulation and I usually feel > worse at this time of the month. My doctor also gave me something for > digestive health that has grapeseed extract in it, so this could be > some kind of die off. My doctor recommended a mineral supplement that > I started on Friday and it already has 200 mcg of potassium iodide so > technically I increased my iodine from 3 mg to 5 mg. I just looked at > the bottle and realized! > > I have off tomorrow and I plan on taking a break form the iodoral and > taking more sea salt. Can't wait to go to bed early tonight! My dog > is better now so he should not be waking me up to go outside because > of diarrhea! > > MJ > > > > > I'm still > > > > working on > getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my > adrenals > > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > > iodine? I've > > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year > now and was 90% > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before > that. I do not have any > > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > > completed mercury > > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > > have a > > > > water > > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've > also > > > > been > > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day > for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why > we need it and why we > > can't live > > without > > > > > > it " and > read through the iodine > > protocol > > several times. The > > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > > adrenals, but on the > other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > > with my thyroid > which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > > is all > such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > > to > > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: > > > Baker, > > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > > All off topic > > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > > > > > hoo.com/g > > > > > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > > > > > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Just wanted to update. I actually got stable temps for the first time while taking iodine! Well, they are stable if you allow for a .1 additional increase after ovulation. 98.3 98.3 98.4 98.3 98.6 (increase in progesterone after ovulation) 98.5 So today I increased my nature throid by 16 mg (just a small amount) and increased my iodoral to 6 mg. Ive had a headache, stiff neck, and tired burning eyes for about 3-4 days now but I don't really think it is from the iodine. I even did a coffee enema on Thursday and felt worse afterwards so it is most likely not detox. Usually I feel better a day or 2 after I ovulate so I'm about to take some sea salt just in case it is the iodine. Maybe I will do another coffee enema tomorrow. My last thyroid labs showed I was still very hypo but my temps are very close to 98.6. Does the iodine increase temps? MJ > > > I'm still > > > > working on > > getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > > > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > > > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my > > adrenals > > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > > > iodine? I've > > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year > > now and was 90% > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before > > that. I do not have any > > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > > > completed mercury > > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > > > have a > > > > water > > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've > > also > > > > been > > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day > > for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why > > we need it and why we > > can't live > > without > > > > > > it " and > > read through the iodine > > protocol > > several times. The > > > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > > adrenals, but on the > > other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > > with my thyroid > > which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > > is all > > such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > > to > > > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: > > > > Baker, > > > > > > Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > > > All off topic > > posts > > > > should go to the IodineOT > > group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IodineOT/<http://health.groups.ya > > > > > > hoo.com/g > > > > > > roup/IodineOT/><IodineOT/<http:// > > > > > > health.gr oups./group/IodineOT/>> > > > > > > The NEW > > > > > > > > > > MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Yes, iodine helps raise low body temps (does not raise temps if temps are already normal). It did mine! -- moderator On 6 Feb 2012 at 1:55, health43mj wrote: > Just wanted to update. > > I actually got stable temps for the first time while taking iodine! > Well, they are stable if you allow for a .1 additional increase after > ovulation. 98.3 98.3 98.4 98.3 98.6 (increase in progesterone after > ovulation) 98.5 > > So today I increased my nature throid by 16 mg (just a small amount) > and increased my iodoral to 6 mg. Ive had a headache, stiff neck, and > tired burning eyes for about 3-4 days now but I don't really think it > is from the iodine. I even did a coffee enema on Thursday and felt > worse afterwards so it is most likely not detox. Usually I feel > better a day or 2 after I ovulate so I'm about to take some sea salt > just in case it is the iodine. Maybe I will do another coffee enema > tomorrow. > > My last thyroid labs showed I was still very hypo but my temps are > very close to 98.6. Does the iodine increase temps? > > MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I am hoping that iodine will help my low body temperature normalise. My GP saw nothing wrong with a consistent morning temperature of 34.4c (about 94f)! Re: Re: Stable adrenals before starting iodoral? Yes, iodine helps raise low body temps (does not raise temps if temps are already normal). It did mine! --moderatorOn 6 Feb 2012 at 1:55, health43mj wrote:> Just wanted to update. > > I actually got stable temps for the first time while taking iodine!> Well, they are stable if you allow for a .1 additional increase after> ovulation. 98.3 98.3 98.4 98.3 98.6 (increase in progesterone after> ovulation) 98.5> > So today I increased my nature throid by 16 mg (just a small amount)> and increased my iodoral to 6 mg. Ive had a headache, stiff neck, and> tired burning eyes for about 3-4 days now but I don't really think it> is from the iodine. I even did a coffee enema on Thursday and felt> worse afterwards so it is most likely not detox. Usually I feel> better a day or 2 after I ovulate so I'm about to take some sea salt> just in case it is the iodine. Maybe I will do another coffee enema> tomorrow. > > My last thyroid labs showed I was still very hypo but my temps are> very close to 98.6. Does the iodine increase temps? > > MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Hi, I have read through a few of the replies to this topic and wanted to add this in case it hasn't been mentioned. I have been supplementing with iodine for 2 weeks. The 1st 3 days, I started with 25mg. I felt nothing so for the next 3 days, I increased to 50mg's. (I should mention that I did not do the salt protocol because I did not know about it until I became a member here.) At 50 mg, I still didn't feel anything-good or bad but I did break out on my face a little. Days 7-9 I increased Lugols to 75mg...nothing. I am currently talking 125mg broken down to 2 doses (after breakfast and 3 hours later with a snack). I take all the companion supplements-since day 1. I noticed a little bit more energy and can go through the day without a nap as long as I get my 8 hours a night. I asked my herbalist why I haven't experienced any real detox symptoms and she asked me if I was still taking the Ashwagandha she recommended to me. I told her yes, for 3 months now, and she said that's why. She recommended it for me because I was very stressed and was gaining weight rapidly. (stopped gaining weight 3 weeks after supplementing) She says it also supports adrenals, thyroid, and has many other benefits. So when I got home, I did a search and found this site: http://www.ashwagandha-benefits.com/ It did mention that people with auto-immune diseases should not take this without doctors consent and also pregnant women so please read warnings. I was fully prepared to experience detox symptoms and was expecting them to be pretty bad since I am also aggressively treating a candida overgrowth. The most I have experienced was mild nasal stuffiness the first 2 days and a mild breakout on my face. I thought for sure my adrenals were shot due to how sick I've felt for the last 10 years. I believe the Ashwagandha saved me from most of the 'healing crisis' I was told I would encounter. Hope this helps someone Marie > > > I'm still > > > > > > working on getting my adrenals > > > > stable and improving iron > > > > > > > > levels in order to get up to my optimal > > > > dose of NTH. > > > > (getting > > help > > from the adrenals group) I'm taking > > > > all > > > > the companion > > nutrients. Do I > > need to wait until my adrenals > > > > > > > > and thyroid > > are optimal before starting > > iodine? I've > > > > been eating > > > > 100% > > gluten free for a year now and was 90% > > > > > > gluten free four years > > > > > > before that. I do not have any > > > > amalgams in my > > mouth anymore > > and > > > > completed mercury > > > > chelation therapy years ago. I > > also > > have a > > > > water > > > > filter that gets rid of flouride. Oh, I've also > > > > been > > > > > > > > taking a scoop of UltraClear every day for about 5 days > > now. I > > > > > > > > > > have and read " Iodine why we need it and why we > > can't live > > > > without > > > > > > it " and read through the iodine > > protocol > > > > several times. The > > > > detoxing > > could be stressful on > > my > > > > adrenals, but on the other hand, > > > > the iodine > > could help > > > > > > with my thyroid which in turn could help the > > > > adrenals. It > > > > > > > > is all such a cycle and catch 22 in many ways! Very > > > > hard > > > > to > > determin > > the sequence to do this! > > > > Thanks > > MJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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