Re: Upper abdominal/stomach/breast swelling

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I have read your post a few times and am confused. You say you first had this swelling a few months ago when you changed your diet to the Ray Peat style of eating. You mention milk, cheese, ice cream. These are all very heavy and put a lot of stress on the liver. Were you on the Iodine Protocol then? I am not sure your swelling has anything to do with Iodine, but maybe someone else will know more about that. I have not seen the symptoms you describe on the list of bromide detox, but of course there are many symptoms of bromide detox that are probably not on the list. You say you have swelling in your abdomen, I would guess that could be your liver. If it was me, I would start eating organic vegetables, big salads, steamed veggies ( especially organic carrot and green juices) beets, dandelion greens and other liver cleansing foods. You might also want to consider coffee enemas to help the liver dump toxins. ( You can read more about them in our Files )

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Hi,

My name is Lori; I apologize, I thought it showed at the top.

1 -- Yes, I had the same swelling and weight gain (only upper

abs/stomach/breasts, nowhere else) from eating the high iodine and high fat

foods from the Ray Peat style of eating. I felt great but the weight

gain/swelling made me stop. I stopped all milk, ice cream, OJ, etc. about six

months ago. I was not taking the Lugol's at the time. I was taking magnesium,

selenium, and coconut oil.

2 -- In addition to the liver cleansing and salt loading, would it be more

beneficial for me to paint the Lugol's on my scalp and breasts (for hair loss

and fibrocystic breasts) rather than ingest it? I am planning on taking it very

very slowly this time (I had no idea prior to joining this group that I was

taking too much too soon).

Thanks,

Lori

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> Hello ( don't know your name; please sign your posts with a name next time)

> I have read your post a few times and am confused. You say you first had

this swelling a few months ago when you changed your diet to the Ray Peat style

of eating. You mention milk, cheese, ice cream. These are all very heavy and put

a lot of stress on the liver. Were you on the Iodine Protocol then? I am not

sure your swelling has anything to do with Iodine, but maybe someone else will

know more about that. I have not seen the symptoms you describe on the list of

bromide detox, but of course there are many symptoms of bromide detox that are

probably not on the list. You say you have swelling in your abdomen, I would

guess that could be your liver. If it was me, I would start eating organic

vegetables, big salads, steamed veggies ( especially organic carrot and green

juices) beets, dandelion greens and other liver cleansing foods. You might also

want to consider coffee enemas to help the liver dump toxins. ( You can read

more about them in our Files ).

> I would try the salt loading again, and also pulse dose your iodine if you

think you are having trouble detoxifying bromides. Again, if it were me, I

would concentrate on detoxifying my liver and building my health with organic

vegetables and some fruits, such as green apples. I would stop milk, cheese,

ice cream, even meat for a while and see how I felt.

> Best,

> Kathleen

> moderator

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> Upper abdominal/stomach/breast swelling

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> Hello all,

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> About two weeks ago, I attempted salt loading due to the side effects I was

experiencing. I had been taking Lugol's 2% 2 drops/2-3x per day for about two

months. I had felt pretty good, hair loss was lessening, lost a few pounds,

energy level pretty good. But then, all of a sudden, I had upper

abdominal/stomach/breast swelling to the extent that I couldn't wear my normal

clothes. I gained nearly 8 pounds in a matter of two weeks (and have yet to lose

any of it nor has the swelling gone down).

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> So, I salt loaded. I ended up with a debilitating headache that nearly

landed me in the hospital. I had that headache and massive swelling for nearly 5

days. I had to take massive doses of ibuprofen for relief. I stopped all iodine

and supplements, and I haven't taken anything since.

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> Obviously, my liver/kidneys are so poor that they can't handle detoxing. Two

days ago, I drank a cup of dandelion tea that I used to be able to handle and

used to make me feel pretty good. But about an hour later, I got the massive

headache back and the upper abdominal/stomach/breast swelling (which is still

very much there).

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> I've done searches in this group's messages and other Internet sources, and

I've yet to find anyone who can explain this kind of swelling (only the upper

abdominal and breasts, not legs, arms, hands, etc.) and what to do about this

particular reaction to iodine and detoxing.

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> A few months ago, I attempted to change my style of eating to a follow a Ray

Peat style of eating (milk, cheese, ice cream, fruit, certain meats, coconut

oil, potatoes, OJ -- only). I didn't experience the headaches, but I did gain

about 12 pounds in a month. And I gained it only in my upper

abdominal/stomach/breasts. That's it -- not in my arms, legs, butt, hips, hands

-- just up top. I'm a personal trainer, so this has been particularly difficult

-- I've yet to drop any of that weight, and that was nearly a year ago. So, in

one year's time, I've gained 20 pounds while attempting to heal my thyroid. The

complete opposite effect that I've been trying to do!

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> Is there anyone else who has only had this kind of weight gain/swelling?

What worked for you?

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> As I clearly can't handle much in the way of detoxing, what's the best route

for someone like me? I have a feeling that perhaps exercise to help my lymphatic

system may be best at this point, but would anyone advise trying the Lugol's

again (but at a much smaller amount)? Would applying it to my scalp (for hair

loss) or breasts (for fibrocystic breasts) be better than ingesting it?

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> Sorry for the long post! Thanks in advance.

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