Re: a very blocked pathway

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IMO your bowels should be getting better. maybe you aren't getting enough thyroid meds? what med? how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?

I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want to think how I suffered, blech. I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a day. I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.

Gracia

The original reason I found out I was hypothyroid was because I went to a natural/alt MD about bowel immotility. For several years he has treated my thyroid, along with hormonal things. I feel great now. EXCEPT my bowels are no better. Sometimes there's slight improvement but only briefly. Since this is a detox pathway & we're told to work on it, my primary question is: how can iodine help if my silly guts will not really open up? How can I work on it if the iodine can't help me get better?Believe me, there is nothing anyone can Eat or Not Eat that I haven't tried. Only when I first started water kefir did I get better for a period of about 5 months. I still drink the kefir but the improvement never returned.Friends and family are in awe of my healthy nutritional habits so it isn't like I'm not treating my organs well. I love local vegetables. I never eat fast food, no sodas, very very little white flour & sugar. I use coconut oil and locally raised grass fed everything and raw milk for kefir. I go hiking, I speed walk, I am young looking (at age 50). But my guts don't work.Now I may have developed diverticulitis from years of inadequate daily cleansing. My natural/alt MD wants me to go to a gastroenterologist. I am afraid of:The antibiotics conventional MDs want to use on diverticulitis!Other drugs they will prescribe for WHATEVER it is I have!The uncertainty of spending how many hundreds on CT scans and specialists who may only tell me to do things I've come to believe are harmful. (Isn't the CT scan itself harmful??)We just ordered the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle and are thinking of trying the Specific Carbs Diet. But with blood showing up now, I'm thinking I have to decide about this gastroenterologist path.Thanks for any helpstephanie mcguirk

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Is it mainly just constipation that's caused by thyroid problems and remedied with iodine? Are there other bowel problems, like food sensitivities, IBS, etc., that are ever helped when thyroid function is normalized? Just curious because I fall into the latter camp, but I've only ever heard of constipation being the primary bowel-related symptom associated with hypothyroidism. Thanks!

ShaunaOn Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

 

 

IMO your bowels should be getting better.  maybe you  aren't getting enough thyroid meds?  what med?  how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?

I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want to think how I suffered, blech.   I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a day.   I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.

Gracia 

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- I would definitely consider a gut healing protocol like GAPS (www.gaps.me) or SCD,etc. It is likely that there may some foods that are aggravating your condition...gluten being first to consider. Gluten is gone on GAPS/SCD. Dairy can also block bowels if gut flora imbalanced. Breaking the Vicious Cycle and GAPS books are both great reads.I think you will find that to a be a good addition to your already healthy lifestyle and iodine,etc. Villanti>> The original reason I found out I was hypothyroid was because I went to a natural/alt MD about bowel immotility. For several years he has treated my thyroid, along with hormonal things. I feel great now. EXCEPT my bowels are no better. Sometimes there's slight improvement but only briefly. > > Since this is a detox pathway & we're told to work on it, my primary question is: how can iodine help if my silly guts will not really open up? How can I work on it if the iodine can't help me get better?> > Believe me, there is nothing anyone can Eat or Not Eat that I haven't tried. Only when I first started water kefir did I get better for a period of about 5 months. I still drink the kefir but the improvement never returned.> > Friends and family are in awe of my healthy nutritional habits so it isn't like I'm not treating my organs well. I love local vegetables. I never eat fast food, no sodas, very very little white flour & sugar. I use coconut oil and locally raised grass fed everything and raw milk for kefir. I go hiking, I speed walk, I am young looking (at age 50). But my guts don't work.> > Now I may have developed diverticulitis from years of inadequate daily cleansing. My natural/alt MD wants me to go to a gastroenterologist. I am afraid of:> > The antibiotics conventional MDs want to use on diverticulitis!> Other drugs they will prescribe for WHATEVER it is I have!> The uncertainty of spending how many hundreds on CT scans and specialists who may only tell me to do things I've come to believe are harmful. (Isn't the CT scan itself harmful??)> > We just ordered the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle and are thinking of trying the Specific Carbs Diet. But with blood showing up now, I'm thinking I have to decide about this gastroenterologist path.> > Thanks for any help> stephanie mcguirk>

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Gracia,

I take 100 mg Armour. Doc tests me periodically and adjusts it or confirms my

dose.

I take 62.5 mg iodine, using capsules my Dr has made specially for his patients

which contain the exact ingredients as Iodoral. I took 50 mg for several months.

This week I've increased it by 12.5 more mg.

I take the companion supplements.

Thanks,

stephanie

>

>

> IMO your bowels should be getting better. maybe you aren't getting enough

thyroid meds? what med? how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?

> I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want to

think how I suffered, blech. I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a day.

I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.

> Gracia

>

>

> The original reason I found out I was hypothyroid was because I went to a

natural/alt MD about bowel immotility. For several years he has treated my

thyroid, along with hormonal things. I feel great now. EXCEPT my bowels are no

better. Sometimes there's slight improvement but only briefly.

>

> Since this is a detox pathway & we're told to work on it, my primary

question is: how can iodine help if my silly guts will not really open up? How

can I work on it if the iodine can't help me get better?

>

> Believe me, there is nothing anyone can Eat or Not Eat that I haven't tried.

Only when I first started water kefir did I get better for a period of about 5

months. I still drink the kefir but the improvement never returned.

>

> Friends and family are in awe of my healthy nutritional habits so it isn't

like I'm not treating my organs well. I love local vegetables. I never eat fast

food, no sodas, very very little white flour & sugar. I use coconut oil and

locally raised grass fed everything and raw milk for kefir. I go hiking, I speed

walk, I am young looking (at age 50). But my guts don't work.

>

> Now I may have developed diverticulitis from years of inadequate daily

cleansing. My natural/alt MD wants me to go to a gastroenterologist. I am afraid

of:

>

> The antibiotics conventional MDs want to use on diverticulitis!

> Other drugs they will prescribe for WHATEVER it is I have!

> The uncertainty of spending how many hundreds on CT scans and specialists

who may only tell me to do things I've come to believe are harmful. (Isn't the

CT scan itself harmful??)

>

> We just ordered the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle and are thinking of

trying the Specific Carbs Diet. But with blood showing up now, I'm thinking I

have to decide about this gastroenterologist path.

>

> Thanks for any help

> stephanie mcguirk

>

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Water kefir is good for maintenance of a healthy gut. It is not enough for

correcting an unhealthy one. The fact that you improved some when first starting

the water kefir tells me that your gut is an absolute mess (as it has slightly

more bacteria than commercial yogurt) you would do well with a MUCH stronger

probiotic.

I and a large group of allergy moms are working on a theory to totally replace

the bacterial balance in our guts, and, more importantly, those of our children.

We use custom probiotics 6 strain http://www.customprobiotics.com/products.htm

or VSL#3. Human strain are even more effective, but much more costly. You start

VERY small (as too much will give you diarrhea and strong detox symptoms it's so

strong) and build up tolerance very slowly.

The latest estimates of bacterial cell counts in the intestine are about 100

trillion (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/307/5717/1915.abstract). All

standard medical literature is in agreement that it takes 5 days for the cells

to replace themselves in the gut. In theory, gut healing shouldn't take much

longer than that. So, the theory goes that if you can build up to taking 100

trillion CFUs per day, then take them for about 2 weeks (to also replace the

bacteria hanging out in the appendix), you will have replaced every unbalanced

bacteria and recolonized the now-healed gut.

However, most people can't build up high enough because of the terrible

detox/die-off symptoms. So, with the use of the Vit C and other detox protocol

here, AND the addition of clay (bentonite or pascalite, whichever speaks to you)

in order to carry toxins out and balance the PH level of the gut, people can

usually mediate the detox and are able to then build up. Starting with clay a

week or 2 before prepares the the gut for the probiotics.

Commercial yogurt: 1 million cfu/ml

Water kefir: around 700,000 cfu/mL

Avg milk kefir: 44 million CFU/ml

Avg kombucha: 100,000 CFU/ml

Kimchi: around 1 billion cfu/mL

> >

> >

> > IMO your bowels should be getting better. maybe you aren't getting

enough thyroid meds? what med? how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?

> > I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want

to think how I suffered, blech. I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a

day. I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > The original reason I found out I was hypothyroid was because I went to a

natural/alt MD about bowel immotility. For several years he has treated my

thyroid, along with hormonal things. I feel great now. EXCEPT my bowels are no

better. Sometimes there's slight improvement but only briefly.

> >

> > Since this is a detox pathway & we're told to work on it, my primary

question is: how can iodine help if my silly guts will not really open up? How

can I work on it if the iodine can't help me get better?

> >

> > Believe me, there is nothing anyone can Eat or Not Eat that I haven't

tried. Only when I first started water kefir did I get better for a period of

about 5 months. I still drink the kefir but the improvement never returned.

> >

> > Friends and family are in awe of my healthy nutritional habits so it isn't

like I'm not treating my organs well. I love local vegetables. I never eat fast

food, no sodas, very very little white flour & sugar. I use coconut oil and

locally raised grass fed everything and raw milk for kefir. I go hiking, I speed

walk, I am young looking (at age 50). But my guts don't work.

> >

> > Now I may have developed diverticulitis from years of inadequate daily

cleansing. My natural/alt MD wants me to go to a gastroenterologist. I am afraid

of:

> >

> > The antibiotics conventional MDs want to use on diverticulitis!

> > Other drugs they will prescribe for WHATEVER it is I have!

> > The uncertainty of spending how many hundreds on CT scans and specialists

who may only tell me to do things I've come to believe are harmful. (Isn't the

CT scan itself harmful??)

> >

> > We just ordered the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle and are thinking of

trying the Specific Carbs Diet. But with blood showing up now, I'm thinking I

have to decide about this gastroenterologist path.

> >

> > Thanks for any help

> > stephanie mcguirk

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hi

most docs do a poor job dosing dessicated thyroid b/c they go by TSH, which you cannot do! you want your Free T3 and Free T4 to be in upper quadrant of range. are they? usual therapeutic dose of Armour is 180--300mg. you could try more iodine too. I take 100mg.

Gracia

Gracia,I take 100 mg Armour. Doc tests me periodically and adjusts it or confirms my dose.I take 62.5 mg iodine, using capsules my Dr has made specially for his patients which contain the exact ingredients as Iodoral. I took 50 mg for several months. This week I've increased it by 12.5 more mg.I take the companion supplements. Thanks,stephanie>> > IMO your bowels should be getting better. maybe you aren't getting enough thyroid meds? what med? how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?> I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want to think how I suffered, blech. I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a day. I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.> Gracia> > > The original reason I found out I was hypothyroid was because I went to a natural/alt MD about bowel immotility. For several years he has treated my thyroid, along with hormonal things. I feel great now. EXCEPT my bowels are no better. Sometimes there's slight improvement but only briefly. > > Since this is a detox pathway & we're told to work on it, my primary question is: how can iodine help if my silly guts will not really open up? How can I work on it if the iodine can't help me get better?> > Believe me, there is nothing anyone can Eat or Not Eat that I haven't tried. Only when I first started water kefir did I get better for a period of about 5 months. I still drink the kefir but the improvement never returned.> > Friends and family are in awe of my healthy nutritional habits so it isn't like I'm not treating my organs well. I love local vegetables. I never eat fast food, no sodas, very very little white flour & sugar. I use coconut oil and locally raised grass fed everything and raw milk for kefir. I go hiking, I speed walk, I am young looking (at age 50). But my guts don't work.> > Now I may have developed diverticulitis from years of inadequate daily cleansing. My natural/alt MD wants me to go to a gastroenterologist. I am afraid of:> > The antibiotics conventional MDs want to use on diverticulitis!> Other drugs they will prescribe for WHATEVER it is I have!> The uncertainty of spending how many hundreds on CT scans and specialists who may only tell me to do things I've come to believe are harmful. (Isn't the CT scan itself harmful??)> > We just ordered the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle and are thinking of trying the Specific Carbs Diet. But with blood showing up now, I'm thinking I have to decide about this gastroenterologist path.> > Thanks for any help> stephanie mcguirk>

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T3 is 3.9

Reverse T3 is 29

He's not a conventional doc, very anti-establishment; it's why i put up with his

crankiness

My dose of Armour is 120 (I remembered wrong when I said 100)

Thanks,

> >

> >

> > IMO your bowels should be getting better. maybe you aren't getting enough

thyroid meds? what med? how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?

> > I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want

to think how I suffered, blech. I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a

day. I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > The original reason I found out I was hypothyroid was because I went to a

natural/alt MD about bowel immotility. For several years he has treated my

thyroid, along with hormonal things. I feel great now. EXCEPT my bowels are no

better. Sometimes there's slight improvement but only briefly.

> >

> > Since this is a detox pathway & we're told to work on it, my primary

question is: how can iodine help if my silly guts will not really open up? How

can I work on it if the iodine can't help me get better?

> >

> > Believe me, there is nothing anyone can Eat or Not Eat that I haven't

tried. Only when I first started water kefir did I get better for a period of

about 5 months. I still drink the kefir but the improvement never returned.

> >

> > Friends and family are in awe of my healthy nutritional habits so it isn't

like I'm not treating my organs well. I love local vegetables. I never eat fast

food, no sodas, very very little white flour & sugar. I use coconut oil and

locally raised grass fed everything and raw milk for kefir. I go hiking, I speed

walk, I am young looking (at age 50). But my guts don't work.

> >

> > Now I may have developed diverticulitis from years of inadequate daily

cleansing. My natural/alt MD wants me to go to a gastroenterologist. I am afraid

of:

> >

> > The antibiotics conventional MDs want to use on diverticulitis!

> > Other drugs they will prescribe for WHATEVER it is I have!

> > The uncertainty of spending how many hundreds on CT scans and specialists

who may only tell me to do things I've come to believe are harmful. (Isn't the

CT scan itself harmful??)

> >

> > We just ordered the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle and are thinking of

trying the Specific Carbs Diet. But with blood showing up now, I'm thinking I

have to decide about this gastroenterologist path.

> >

> > Thanks for any help

> > stephanie mcguirk

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I thought I'd just throw in my two pence worth here.......

My problem: Diagnosed with Severe intestinal Candida, SIBO, Low stomach acid, H-pylori and IBS Diahhrea,

Daily symptoms (in a nut shell): Constant diahhrea, cramping, wind, severely bad digestion, countless visits to the loo, weight loss, brain fog, inflamed feeling of stomach, feeling of constant incomplete evacuation etc...

Allergies: Dust/Dustmite and mould allergy which causes post nasal drip and excess mucous production

Diet: No wheat (gluten), only lactose free products. I eat numerous veggies, rice, potato, nuts and copious amounts of olive oil to mantian weight. Previously had tried to eat just boiled rice and chicken for two weeks and even that didn't help.

Things tried in the past: SCD diet, FODMAPS diet, Paleo diet, rifaximin, nystatin, diflucan, most herbal anti candida rememdies, hydrogen peroxide, most things for IBS etc... the list goes on and on.....

My pogress with Iodine so far:

I'm a little weary writing this part because I don't want to tempt fait and spoil the progress that I feel I have made. I hope this isn't a placebo affect I am experiencing:

I am on day 40 or so of taking 7% lugols iodine. I have built up slowly adding one drop every four days or so. I currently take 12 drops in the morning and 6 drops in the afternoon and then another 6 drops in the evening. I take 200mcgs of selenium with each dose along with 100mgs of Magnesium with each dose. I also take around 2000 mgs of vitamin C.

How am I feeling?:

Well, I am definitely going less frequently now. I don't have the immediate urgency I used to feel after eating a plate of food (no matter how simple the food was). I have less creaking bowels, less wind and less of a feeling of needing to go to the loo all the time. My stomach still feels inflamed (that's to say it still feels very sensitive) but not to the extent of before. I have only had bad diahhrea a couple of times in the last two weeks. It's still not perfect but after 20 years of suffering from 'D' I wouldn't expect my stools to become normal overnight. It's sad to say but I can't believe it when my stools are coming out 'formed' more often than not.

My detox symptoms:

I think i have been suffering with detox symptoms too. The first two weeks I suffered with a really bad cold andchest infection and was coughing up gunk all day and night. That has now subsided quite a bit. I now have acne on my back in the form of sensitive aggressive bumps. I used to have this problem for many years until I folowed a candida diet and removed all forms of sugar from my diet and they pretty much cleared up. But since being on the iodine they have appeared again. I can only attribute this to perhaps the toxins being released. I am treating the bumps with drops of iodine directly.

I am also hoping that the iodine will also help my allergies as I continue.

I plan to keep increasing my intake. Sky's the limit. I'm not afraid of taking high quantities having read that in the past people have taken up to 1gram of iodine daily. And after having tried the hydrogen peroxide protocol this iodine protocol is a walk in the park :-)

I will keep you informed of my progress for those with bowel issues. I just hope that things don't take a turn for the worse as I continue onwards and upwards. I still can't believe how well my bowels have behaved the last two weeks. It puts a smile on my face when I think about it. The thought of becoming a 'normal person' again gives me inspiration to keep going.

A special thanks to Bonnie who steered me towards this forum from the SIBO forum.

Fingers crossed this is the 'holy grail' I've been searching for!

Ric

As a side note; I recently read that low levels of iodine can cause low stomach acid (hypochlohydria) which I have. Naturally, if you have low stomach acid you can't destroy or digest the bacteria in food. Hopefully Iodine will regulate this too. :-)

"If you're going through hell, keep going!"

Winston Churchill

From: Shauna Boren <skboren@...>iodine Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 5:07 PMSubject: Re: a very blocked pathway

Is it mainly just constipation that's caused by thyroid problems and remedied with iodine? Are there other bowel problems, like food sensitivities, IBS, etc., that are ever helped when thyroid function is normalized? Just curious because I fall into the latter camp, but I've only ever heard of constipation being the primary bowel-related symptom associated with hypothyroidism. Thanks!

Shauna

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

IMO your bowels should be getting better. maybe you aren't getting enough thyroid meds? what med? how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?

I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want to think how I suffered, blech. I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a day. I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.

Gracia

[Guest guest]

I should add to my last email that i do take Betaine HCL with Pepsin and Digestive Enzymes with all my food and I take L-Glutamine powder throughout the day to heal the digestive tract along with Milk Kefir and the odd sachet of the extra strong probiotic VSL3.

However, I don't attribute my recent improvement to these products as I have been taking them for over a year without much improvement. It has only been since the addition of Iodine that I have noticed significant improvements. However, I feel these supplements are necessary to assist in digesting my food as much as possible.

Ric

From: Fisher <fsni1160@...>"iodine " <iodine > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 6:02 PMSubject: Re: a very blocked pathway

I thought I'd just throw in my two pence worth here.......

My problem: Diagnosed with Severe intestinal Candida, SIBO, Low stomach acid, H-pylori and IBS Diahhrea,

Daily symptoms (in a nut shell): Constant diahhrea, cramping, wind, severely bad digestion, countless visits to the loo, weight loss, brain fog, inflamed feeling of stomach, feeling of constant incomplete evacuation etc...

Allergies: Dust/Dustmite and mould allergy which causes post nasal drip and excess mucous production

Diet: No wheat (gluten), only lactose free products. I eat numerous veggies, rice, potato, nuts and copious amounts of olive oil to mantian weight. Previously had tried to eat just boiled rice and chicken for two weeks and even that didn't help.

Things tried in the past: SCD diet, FODMAPS diet, Paleo diet, rifaximin, nystatin, diflucan, most herbal anti candida rememdies, hydrogen peroxide, most things for IBS etc... the list goes on and on.....

My pogress with Iodine so far:

I'm a little weary writing this part because I don't want to tempt fait and spoil the progress that I feel I have made. I hope this isn't a placebo affect I am experiencing:

I am on day 40 or so of taking 7% lugols iodine. I have built up slowly adding one drop every four days or so. I currently take 12 drops in the morning and 6 drops in the afternoon and then another 6 drops in the evening. I take 200mcgs of selenium with each dose along with 100mgs of Magnesium with each dose. I also take around 2000 mgs of vitamin C.

How am I feeling?:

Well, I am definitely going less frequently now. I don't have the immediate urgency I used to feel after eating a plate of food (no matter how simple the food was). I have less creaking bowels, less wind and less of a feeling of needing to go to the loo all the time. My stomach still feels inflamed (that's to say it still feels very sensitive) but not to the extent of before. I have only had bad diahhrea a couple of times in the last two weeks. It's still not perfect but after 20 years of suffering from 'D' I wouldn't expect my stools to become normal overnight. It's sad to say but I can't believe it when my stools are coming out 'formed' more often than not.

My detox symptoms:

I think i have been suffering with detox symptoms too. The first two weeks I suffered with a really bad cold andchest infection and was coughing up gunk all day and night. That has now subsided quite a bit. I now have acne on my back in the form of sensitive aggressive bumps. I used to have this problem for many years until I folowed a candida diet and removed all forms of sugar from my diet and they pretty much cleared up. But since being on the iodine they have appeared again. I can only attribute this to perhaps the toxins being released. I am treating the bumps with drops of iodine directly.

I am also hoping that the iodine will also help my allergies as I continue.

I plan to keep increasing my intake. Sky's the limit. I'm not afraid of taking high quantities having read that in the past people have taken up to 1gram of iodine daily. And after having tried the hydrogen peroxide protocol this iodine protocol is a walk in the park :-)

I will keep you informed of my progress for those with bowel issues. I just hope that things don't take a turn for the worse as I continue onwards and upwards. I still can't believe how well my bowels have behaved the last two weeks. It puts a smile on my face when I think about it. The thought of becoming a 'normal person' again gives me inspiration to keep going.

A special thanks to Bonnie who steered me towards this forum from the SIBO forum.

Fingers crossed this is the 'holy grail' I've been searching for!

Ric

As a side note; I recently read that low levels of iodine can cause low stomach acid (hypochlohydria) which I have. Naturally, if you have low stomach acid you can't destroy or digest the bacteria in food. Hopefully Iodine will regulate this too. :-)

"If you're going through hell, keep going!"

Winston Churchill

From: Shauna Boren <skboren@...>iodine Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 5:07 PMSubject: Re: a very blocked pathway

Is it mainly just constipation that's caused by thyroid problems and remedied with iodine? Are there other bowel problems, like food sensitivities, IBS, etc., that are ever helped when thyroid function is normalized? Just curious because I fall into the latter camp, but I've only ever heard of constipation being the primary bowel-related symptom associated with hypothyroidism. Thanks!

Shauna

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

IMO your bowels should be getting better. maybe you aren't getting enough thyroid meds? what med? how much/what kind of iodine are you taking?

I had horrible bowel probs, I could be more specific but don't even want to think how I suffered, blech. I am completely normal now, ususally go 2X a day. I take 240mg NT and 100--125mg Iodoral/lugols.

Gracia

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Ric. That is great to hear how well you're doing on iodine! I hope it continues to help you and that you've found your " holy grail " . Great news. Thank you for sharing.Shauna

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Fisher <fsni1160@...> wrote:

 

I thought I'd just throw in my two pence worth here.......

 

My problem: Diagnosed with Severe intestinal Candida, SIBO, Low stomach acid, H-pylori and IBS Diahhrea,

Daily symptoms (in a nut shell): Constant diahhrea, cramping, wind, severely bad digestion, countless visits to the loo, weight loss, brain fog, inflamed feeling of stomach, feeling of constant incomplete evacuation etc...

Allergies:  Dust/Dustmite and mould allergy which causes post nasal drip and excess mucous production

Diet: No wheat (gluten), only lactose free products. I eat numerous veggies, rice, potato, nuts and copious amounts of olive oil to mantian weight. Previously  had tried to eat just boiled rice and chicken for two weeks and even that didn't help.

Things tried in the past: SCD diet, FODMAPS diet, Paleo diet, rifaximin, nystatin, diflucan, most herbal anti candida rememdies, hydrogen peroxide, most things for IBS etc... the list goes on and on.....

 

My pogress with Iodine so far:

 

I'm a little weary writing this part because I don't want to tempt fait and spoil the progress that I feel I have made. I hope this isn't a placebo affect I am experiencing:

 

I am on day 40 or so of taking 7% lugols iodine. I have built up slowly adding one drop every four days or so.  I currently take 12 drops in the morning and 6 drops in the afternoon and then another 6 drops in the evening. I take 200mcgs of selenium with each dose along with 100mgs of Magnesium with each dose. I also take around 2000 mgs of vitamin C.

 

 

 

How am I feeling?:

 

Well, I am definitely going less frequently now. I don't have the immediate urgency I used to feel after eating a plate of food (no matter how simple the food was). I have less creaking bowels, less wind and less of a feeling of needing to go to the loo all the time. My stomach still feels inflamed (that's to say it still feels very sensitive) but not to the extent of before. I have only had bad diahhrea a couple of times in the last two weeks. It's still not perfect but after 20 years of suffering from 'D' I wouldn't expect my stools to become normal overnight.  It's sad to say but I can't believe it when my stools are coming out 'formed' more often than not.

 

My detox symptoms:

I think i have been suffering with detox symptoms too. The first two weeks I suffered with a really bad  cold andchest infection and was coughing up gunk all day and night. That has now subsided quite a bit. I now have acne on my back in the form of sensitive aggressive bumps. I used to have this problem for many years until I folowed a candida diet and removed all forms of sugar from my diet and they pretty much cleared up. But since being on the iodine they have appeared again. I can only attribute this to perhaps the toxins being released. I am treating the bumps with drops of iodine directly.

 

I am also hoping that the iodine will also help my allergies as I continue.

 

I plan to keep increasing my intake. Sky's the limit. I'm not afraid of taking high quantities having read that in the past people have taken up to 1gram of iodine daily. And after having tried the hydrogen peroxide protocol this iodine protocol is a walk in the park :-)

 

I will keep you informed of my progress for those with bowel issues. I just hope that things don't take a turn for the worse as I continue onwards and upwards. I still can't believe how well my bowels have behaved the last two weeks. It puts a smile on my face when I think about it. The thought of becoming a 'normal person' again gives me inspiration to keep going.

 

A special thanks to Bonnie who steered me towards this forum from the SIBO forum.

 

Fingers crossed this is the 'holy grail' I've been searching for!

 

Ric

 

As a side note; I recently read that low levels of iodine can cause low stomach acid (hypochlohydria) which I have. Naturally, if you have low stomach acid you can't destroy or digest the bacteria in food. Hopefully Iodine will regulate this too. :-)

 

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I started this past Monday with 6mg of iodoral with the supplements(no salt) and the morning of the 4th day I found myself with a headache, shoulder aches and some issues with constipation for which I have always struggled with. I was wondering if constipation is a normal side effect as well as the other problems mentioned. More than that, will I be able to work through this and find that my gut can process the iodine with less difficulty. I am quitting the iodoral until I can help my body with the detox, perhaps the ashwagandha would help.Thanks for any input.Betty

[Guest guest]

Why are you not taking the salt? unrefined Celtic Sea Salt is a very important part of the Iodine Protocol.

Kathleen

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Re: a very blocked pathway

I started this past Monday with 6mg of iodoral with the supplements(no salt) and the morning of the 4th day I found myself with a headache, shoulder aches and some issues with constipation for which I have always struggled with. I was wondering if constipation is a normal side effect as well as the other problems mentioned. More than that, will I be able to work through this and find that my gut can process the iodine with less difficulty. I am quitting the iodoral until I can help my body with the detox, perhaps the ashwagandha would help.

Thanks for any input.

Betty

[Guest guest]

Betty, just to add my own 5 cents.... I started the Iodoral protocol two weeks ago without the salt, only because my salt order didn't arrive then. I had tightness in my throat, salty taste in my mouth and some muscle aches and some constipation. Once I added in the Celtic Salt, all these symptoms went away except for some mild muscle aches. Sent from my iPadOn Feb 11, 2012, at 9:21 PM, "Kathleen Blake" <kathleenblake@...> wrote:

Why are you not taking the salt? unrefined Celtic Sea Salt is a very important part of the Iodine Protocol.

Kathleen

moderator

Re: a very blocked pathway

I started this past Monday with 6mg of iodoral with the supplements(no salt) and the morning of the 4th day I found myself with a headache, shoulder aches and some issues with constipation for which I have always struggled with. I was wondering if constipation is a normal side effect as well as the other problems mentioned. More than that, will I be able to work through this and find that my gut can process the iodine with less difficulty. I am quitting the iodoral until I can help my body with the detox, perhaps the ashwagandha would help.

Thanks for any input.

Betty

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[Guest guest]

You have bromide detox symptoms. The unrefined salt is a NECESSARY part of the

iodine

protocol.

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moderator

> I started this past Monday with 6mg of iodoral with the

> supplements(no salt)

> and the morning of the 4th day I found myself with a headache,

> shoulder aches and some issues with constipation for which I have

> always struggled with. I was wondering if constipation is a normal

> side effect as well as the other problems mentioned. More than that,

> will I be able to work through this and find that my gut can process

> the iodine with less difficulty. I am quitting the iodoral until I can

> help my body with the detox, perhaps the ashwagandha would help.

> Thanks for any input. Betty

>

>

>

>

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Do you have a link to a list for bromide toxicity?~~On Feb 12, 2012, at 3:19 AM, " Baker" <vbaker@...> wrote:

You have bromide detox symptoms. The unrefined salt is a NECESSARY part of the iodine

protocol.

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moderator

> I started this past Monday with 6mg of iodoral with the

> supplements(no salt)

> and the morning of the 4th day I found myself with a headache,

> shoulder aches and some issues with constipation for which I have

> always struggled with. I was wondering if constipation is a normal

> side effect as well as the other problems mentioned. More than that,

> will I be able to work through this and find that my gut can process

> the iodine with less difficulty. I am quitting the iodoral until I can

> help my body with the detox, perhaps the ashwagandha would help.

> Thanks for any input. Betty

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

There is a list in the Guide to Supplementing. There is also a list on the

website

www.breastcancerchoices.org , go to the iodine tab, it's one of the articles

listed.

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On 12 Feb 2012 at 7:38, wrote:

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> Do you have a link to a list for bromide toxicity?

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> On Feb 12, 2012, at 3:19 AM, " Baker " <vbaker@...>

> wrote:

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> You have bromide detox symptoms. The unrefined salt is a NECESSARY

> part of the iodine protocol.

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> moderator

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> > I started this past Monday with 6mg of iodoral with the

> > supplements(no salt)

> > and the morning of the 4th day I found myself with a headache,

> > shoulder aches and some issues with constipation for which I have

> > always struggled with. I was wondering if constipation is a normal

> > side effect as well as the other problems mentioned. More than that,

> > will I be able to work through this and find that my gut can process

> > the iodine with less difficulty. I am quitting the iodoral until I

> > can help my body with the detox, perhaps the ashwagandha would help.

> > Thanks for any input. Betty

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you for responding. I tried the celtic sea salt 2 weeks before starting the iodine protocol and found that it dehydrated me and caused painful spasms in my bladder. I drink 2 quarts water every day. Any thoughts about this?Betty

[Guest guest]

Betty:

Please do not delete the old text from the message that you are responding to.

We get so

many messages every day that we have NO IDEA what you're referring to here. If

you aren't

manually deleting the old text, then go into " Preferences " in your email program

and look for

Reply options. There will be something there about including quoted text from

previous

message. We need that, it's list policy, and it's very hard to help when we

can't check the

message history.

Thank you.

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On 12 Feb 2012 at 19:28, Betty wrote:

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> Thank you for responding. I tried the celtic sea salt 2 weeks before

> starting the iodine protocol and found that it dehydrated me and

> caused painful spasms in my bladder. I drink 2 quarts water every day.

> Any thoughts about this? Betty

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