Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Is castor oil ok as a carrier?It's not the tiredness that's bothering me so much...it's the fogginess and dizziness...it seems worse than a couple of weeks ago.len From: Baker <vbaker@...> iodine Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:12 PM Subject: Re: New member--success stories? That's great, len. I think you should be painting iodine over the whole treatment area-- be sure to use a carrier oil. Meanwhile, I don't think it's the iodine making you tired, as you said you were tired before iodine. wishing you most well, -- On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:15, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > Yes, I'm on the bcc list. My tumor has already been treated. It was > dissolved by radiation and hyperthermia although there is probably > some scar tissue still healing. > > len > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > No, len, with your health history you shouldn't take the > pregnenolone. You really need to consult with someone in detail about > how to approach your care. You might consider a consult with Steph. > > but I will say that the reason you're not having a strong response to > the iodine is the ca dx. That's taking it out of you and as I noted > yesterday, when there are tissues that need to be dissolved, that's a > lot greater problem than a more purely metabolical imbalance. > > But you should keep taking the iodine, in large doses. Have you looked > at the website www.breastcancerchoices.org ?? Even if you don't have > br ca, the iodine and alternatives they talk about are important. > > -- > moderator > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:41, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am doing ozone treatments which are supposed to be a big detoxer. > > I take a ton of supplements, because I am also fighting cancer. I > > don't really have any detox symptoms other than being foggy headed > > and tired but I was that way before I started iodine. I haven't > > tried pregnenolone. I don't know anything about it. If it effects my > > hormones, I'm a little afraid of it, because I had estrogen positive > > breast cancer. I do think my adrenals might be involved but I > > haven't been able to find a doctor to take it seriously. > > > > len > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:04 AM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > What have you done to work on your detox pathways, len? > > > > Have you tried taking pregnenolone? It's a hormone precursor so the > > body can use it to create what it needs-- steroids-- so estrogen, > > progesterone, testosterone, adrenals. Some people think you should > > be tested first, but I had been tested for adrenals and knew mine > > were very very bad. It's also a precursor, not a hormone itself. > > Anyway just a thought. > > > > But your detox pathways are very important. > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:49, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. > > > Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering > > > with one right now. Most of the people who responded said they > > > noticed results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had > > > to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion > > > nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > From: Rae <tooblessttobstressed@...> > > > "iodine " <iodine > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:03 PM > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > Hi Sandy I deal with Gastroparesis and had horrible constipation > > > but after just a week I am off most of my bowel meds and on just a > > > 1/2 dose of Carafate for the stomach lining . I have a little > > > problem with the salt raising my blood pressure so I do the pulse > > > dosing and go off one to two days a week. I am up to 10 drops a > > > day. Rae > > > > > > Sent from my iPod > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:42 PM, "S" <slowe418@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member to the group and just started taking iodine > > > yesterday. I have been reading all the recent messages and seeing > > > a lot of messages on negative side effects. I have done a lot of > > > reading on all of the positive effects of iodine/iodide, but would > > > any of you be willing to share how it has changed your health for > > > the better? When I read things on websites trying to sell > > > something I am never sure how honest it is? > > > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 i had a bad reaction to the isocort because of the echinacea. is there another good alternative?On Feb 13, 2012, at 10.16 PM, Baker wrote: You need to treat the adrenal fatigue. I treated both at the same time. Yes, the iodine revs up your system and that can play up the adrenal exhaustion more, but the solution is NOT to wait on iodine but to do both. I had been treated for the adrenals by a Functional Medicine, Integrative MD for a year, with no success to speak of. Then I lost the health insurance that was making those visits feasible, so I was on my own. I found the iodine protocol, got advice from folks about adding in adrenal treatment, and the combination is what successfully treated adrenals. Of course your adrenals are exhausted after what you've been through. I added 1200IU of mixed tocopherols Vit E 1 Tablespoon or more per day of unrefined salt 4 to 6 grams of Vit C per day pregnenolone Isocort People have healed their adrenals on the iodine protocol without those last two items, with just the additional salt and vit C. Or, with just Isocort or other dessicated whole adrenal but not the pregnenolone (and obviously that's not a good choice for you). -- On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:18, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > I have ibs. Is it possible that the iodoral is not being absorbed > because of my intestinal problems? Also could iodine make adrenal > fatigue worse? > > len > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > No not at all. I just addressed some of your questions in a previous > email. -- > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:56, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > So am I the only one who didn't get quick results from iodine? > > > > len > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:07 AM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the buy > > the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all in > > one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and take > > them that way. > > > > -- > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge > > > difference for some. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. > > > Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering > > > with one right now. Most of the people who responded said they > > > noticed results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had > > > to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion > > > nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I haven't done a test for adrenal fatigue, but i feel like I've had it for years. Wow a whole tablespoon of salt?! How did you take it? Alone, in food, or in water?I'm taking vitamin c, maybe 2g a day but I can up it. What kind did you take? Was it a high quality kind?How did you get your adrenal fatigue diagnosed?Sorry about all the questions...I'm getting desperate...I can barely function and I have a 6 year old who needs me.len From: Baker <vbaker@...> iodine Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:16 PM Subject: Re: New member--success stories? You need to treat the adrenal fatigue. I treated both at the same time. Yes, the iodine revs up your system and that can play up the adrenal exhaustion more, but the solution is NOT to wait on iodine but to do both. I had been treated for the adrenals by a Functional Medicine, Integrative MD for a year, with no success to speak of. Then I lost the health insurance that was making those visits feasible, so I was on my own. I found the iodine protocol, got advice from folks about adding in adrenal treatment, and the combination is what successfully treated adrenals. Of course your adrenals are exhausted after what you've been through. I added 1200IU of mixed tocopherols Vit E 1 Tablespoon or more per day of unrefined salt 4 to 6 grams of Vit C per day pregnenolone Isocort People have healed their adrenals on the iodine protocol without those last two items, with just the additional salt and vit C. Or, with just Isocort or other dessicated whole adrenal but not the pregnenolone (and obviously that's not a good choice for you). -- On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:18, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > I have ibs. Is it possible that the iodoral is not being absorbed > because of my intestinal problems? Also could iodine make adrenal > fatigue worse? > > len > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > No not at all. I just addressed some of your questions in a previous > email. -- > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:56, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > So am I the only one who didn't get quick results from iodine? > > > > len > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:07 AM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the buy > > the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all in > > one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and take > > them that way. > > > > -- > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge > > > difference for some. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. > > > Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering > > > with one right now. Most of the people who responded said they > > > noticed results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had > > > to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion > > > nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 That does sound like adrenals. Yes, castor oil is GREAT as a carrier. --V On 13 Feb 2012 at 22:17, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > Is castor oil ok as a carrier? > > It's not the tiredness that's bothering me so much...it's the > fogginess and dizziness...it seems worse than a couple of weeks ago. > > len > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:12 PM > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > That's great, len. I think you should be painting iodine over the > whole treatment area-- be sure to use a carrier oil. > > Meanwhile, I don't think it's the iodine making you tired, as you said > you were tired before iodine. > > wishing you most well, > -- > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:15, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, I'm on the bcc list. My tumor has already been treated. It was > > dissolved by radiation and hyperthermia although there is probably > > some scar tissue still healing. > > > > len > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > No, len, with your health history you shouldn't take the > > pregnenolone. You really need to consult with someone in detail > > about how to approach your care. You might consider a consult with > > Steph. > > > > but I will say that the reason you're not having a strong response > > to the iodine is the ca dx. That's taking it out of you and as I > > noted yesterday, when there are tissues that need to be dissolved, > > that's a lot greater problem than a more purely metabolical > > imbalance. > > > > But you should keep taking the iodine, in large doses. Have you > > looked at the website www.breastcancerchoices.org ?? Even if you > > don't have br ca, the iodine and alternatives they talk about are > > important. > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:41, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am doing ozone treatments which are supposed to be a big > > > detoxer. I take a ton of supplements, because I am also fighting > > > cancer. I don't really have any detox symptoms other than being > > > foggy headed and tired but I was that way before I started iodine. > > > I haven't tried pregnenolone. I don't know anything about it. If > > > it effects my hormones, I'm a little afraid of it, because I had > > > estrogen positive breast cancer. I do think my adrenals might be > > > involved but I haven't been able to find a doctor to take it > > > seriously. > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > > iodine > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:04 AM > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > What have you done to work on your detox pathways, len? > > > > > > Have you tried taking pregnenolone? It's a hormone precursor so > > > the body can use it to create what it needs-- steroids-- so > > > estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, adrenals. Some people think > > > you should be tested first, but I had been tested for adrenals and > > > knew mine were very very bad. It's also a precursor, not a hormone > > > itself. Anyway just a thought. > > > > > > But your detox pathways are very important. > > > > > > -- > > > moderator > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:49, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. > > > > I have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as > > > > ever. Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm > > > > suffering with one right now. Most of the people who responded > > > > said they noticed results within a very short time. Is there > > > > anyone who had to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm > > > > taking the companion nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Rae <tooblessttobstressed@...> > > > > " iodine " <iodine > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:03 PM > > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sandy I deal with Gastroparesis and had horrible constipation > > > > but after just a week I am off most of my bowel meds and on just > > > > a 1/2 dose of Carafate for the stomach lining . I have a little > > > > problem with the salt raising my blood pressure so I do the > > > > pulse dosing and go off one to two days a week. I am up to 10 > > > > drops a day. Rae > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPod > > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:42 PM, " S " <slowe418@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member to the group and just started taking iodine > > > > yesterday. I have been reading all the recent messages and > > > > seeing a lot of messages on negative side effects. I have done a > > > > lot of reading on all of the positive effects of iodine/iodide, > > > > but would any of you be willing to share how it has changed your > > > > health for the better? When I read things on websites trying to > > > > sell something I am never sure how honest it is? > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 There are any number of dessicated adrenal products OTC. I don't have experience with any others, but there are many choices. -- On 13 Feb 2012 at 22:24, julie barmazel wrote: > > > > i had a bad reaction to the isocort because of the echinacea. is there > another good alternative? > > On Feb 13, 2012, at 10.16 PM, Baker wrote: > > > You need to treat the adrenal fatigue. I treated both at the same > time. Yes, the iodine revs up your system and that can play up the > adrenal exhaustion more, but the solution is NOT to wait on iodine but > to do both. I had been treated for the adrenals by a Functional > Medicine, Integrative MD for a year, with no success to speak of. Then > I lost the health insurance that was making those visits feasible, so > I was on my own. I found the iodine protocol, got advice from folks > about adding in adrenal treatment, and the combination is what > successfully treated adrenals. > > Of course your adrenals are exhausted after what you've been through. > > I added 1200IU of mixed tocopherols Vit E > 1 Tablespoon or more per day of unrefined salt > 4 to 6 grams of Vit C per day > pregnenolone > Isocort > > People have healed their adrenals on the iodine protocol without those > last two items, with just the additional salt and vit C. Or, with just > Isocort or other dessicated whole adrenal but not the pregnenolone > (and obviously that's not a good choice for you). > > -- > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:18, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have ibs. Is it possible that the iodoral is not being absorbed > > because of my intestinal problems? Also could iodine make adrenal > > fatigue worse? > > > > len > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > No not at all. I just addressed some of your questions in a previous > > email. -- > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:56, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So am I the only one who didn't get quick results from iodine? > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > > iodine > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to > > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that > > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do > > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the > > > buy the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all > > > in one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and > > > take them that way. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge > > > > difference for some. > > > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. > > > > I have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as > > > > ever. Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm > > > > suffering with one right now. Most of the people who responded > > > > said they noticed results within a very short time. Is there > > > > anyone who had to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm > > > > taking the companion nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I took the salt in glasses of water, throughout the day. Also, additionally liberal use on food. But only UNREFINED salt. I have been using Ester C which stays in circuluation for 24 hours. I really like it and it's available everywhere. I took the saliva test where you have 4 swabs that you do throughout the day at speciified times, as someone else was describing. No other test is valid. The Functional Med MD told me it was the worst result she'd ever seen. So if I can heal as I've described, I know others can too. But, with your ca dx you really should be getting iodine-literate nutritional advice from an ND, someone who can oversee your program but who is WILLING to help you with the iodine. You need it. btw, so does your daughter. -- On 13 Feb 2012 at 22:41, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > I haven't done a test for adrenal fatigue, but i feel like I've had it > for years. Wow a whole tablespoon of salt?! How did you take it? > Alone, in food, or in water? I'm taking vitamin c, maybe 2g a day but > I can up it. What kind did you take? Was it a high quality kind? How > did you get your adrenal fatigue diagnosed? > > Sorry about all the questions...I'm getting desperate...I can barely > function and I have a 6 year old who needs me. > > len > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:16 PM > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > You need to treat the adrenal fatigue. I treated both at the same > time. Yes, the iodine revs up your system and that can play up the > adrenal exhaustion more, but the solution is NOT to wait on iodine but > to do both. I had been treated for the adrenals by a Functional > Medicine, Integrative MD for a year, with no success to speak of. Then > I lost the health insurance that was making those visits feasible, so > I was on my own. I found the iodine protocol, got advice from folks > about adding in adrenal treatment, and the combination is what > successfully treated adrenals. > > Of course your adrenals are exhausted after what you've been through. > > I added 1200IU of mixed tocopherols Vit E > 1 Tablespoon or more per day of unrefined salt > 4 to 6 grams of Vit C per day > pregnenolone > Isocort > > People have healed their adrenals on the iodine protocol without those > last two items, with just the additional salt and vit C. Or, with just > Isocort or other dessicated whole adrenal but not the pregnenolone > (and obviously that's not a good choice for you). > > -- > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:18, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have ibs. Is it possible that the iodoral is not being absorbed > > because of my intestinal problems? Also could iodine make adrenal > > fatigue worse? > > > > len > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > No not at all. I just addressed some of your questions in a previous > > email. -- > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:56, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So am I the only one who didn't get quick results from iodine? > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > > iodine > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to > > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that > > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do > > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the > > > buy the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all > > > in one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and > > > take them that way. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge > > > > difference for some. > > > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. > > > > I have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as > > > > ever. Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm > > > > suffering with one right now. Most of the people who responded > > > > said they noticed results within a very short time. Is there > > > > anyone who had to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm > > > > taking the companion nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012  I have no private health insurance so there has been no test - and none of the doctors I have attended believe in 'ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY', in fact my GP basically said that if my adrenals were exhausted I would be dead. Likewise only the doctor at the women's health centre is anything like supportive of iodine supplementation - and that is only because she has seen the sites where my ulcerations have healed since I commenced iodine supplementation. I had informed her that I took two courses of antibiotics which did stop the ulcerations from getting worse, but did not heal them. Basically I SEARCHED for information about adrenal insufficiency as I saw so much posted here about it - and identified with many of the symptoms. The herbal preparation seems unlikely to cause me problems, at worse it may be a waste of money, but it contains herbs like ashwaghanda which seem to be adaptogens. My daughter has a form of IBS, and has had a colonoscopy etc which indicates some inflammation but little else, so I have offered to let her try the herbal supplement, and I am hoping that it does help her. When she has an attack she often has to be hospitalised. Re: New member--success stories?> > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional> companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to> start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that anyone> who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do the ATP> Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the buy the> convenient product that already has the proper amounts all in one but> costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and take them that> way.> > --> > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote:> > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge> > difference for some.> > > > in Alaska> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey <joellenr@...>> > wrote:> > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I> > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to 150mg/day> > and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any> > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week in a> > major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy periods for> > years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. Someone> > mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering with one> > right now. Most of the people who responded said they noticed> > results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had to wait> > longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion nutrients> > and salt-loading.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 So you took a tablespoon in water in addition to salt on your food? How long did it take you to start to feel better?I want to take the saliva test, but my sleep is all messed up...I can't fall asleep until 2am and I can't get up until 11 or so. Is that going to skew the test results?len From: Baker <vbaker@...> iodine Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:56 PM Subject: Re: New member--success stories? I took the salt in glasses of water, throughout the day. Also, additionally liberal use on food. But only UNREFINED salt. I have been using Ester C which stays in circuluation for 24 hours. I really like it and it's available everywhere. I took the saliva test where you have 4 swabs that you do throughout the day at speciified times, as someone else was describing. No other test is valid. The Functional Med MD told me it was the worst result she'd ever seen. So if I can heal as I've described, I know others can too. But, with your ca dx you really should be getting iodine-literate nutritional advice from an ND, someone who can oversee your program but who is WILLING to help you with the iodine. You need it. btw, so does your daughter. -- On 13 Feb 2012 at 22:41, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > I haven't done a test for adrenal fatigue, but i feel like I've had it > for years. Wow a whole tablespoon of salt?! How did you take it? > Alone, in food, or in water? I'm taking vitamin c, maybe 2g a day but > I can up it. What kind did you take? Was it a high quality kind? How > did you get your adrenal fatigue diagnosed? > > Sorry about all the questions...I'm getting desperate...I can barely > function and I have a 6 year old who needs me. > > len > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:16 PM > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > You need to treat the adrenal fatigue. I treated both at the same > time. Yes, the iodine revs up your system and that can play up the > adrenal exhaustion more, but the solution is NOT to wait on iodine but > to do both. I had been treated for the adrenals by a Functional > Medicine, Integrative MD for a year, with no success to speak of. Then > I lost the health insurance that was making those visits feasible, so > I was on my own. I found the iodine protocol, got advice from folks > about adding in adrenal treatment, and the combination is what > successfully treated adrenals. > > Of course your adrenals are exhausted after what you've been through. > > I added 1200IU of mixed tocopherols Vit E > 1 Tablespoon or more per day of unrefined salt > 4 to 6 grams of Vit C per day > pregnenolone > Isocort > > People have healed their adrenals on the iodine protocol without those > last two items, with just the additional salt and vit C. Or, with just > Isocort or other dessicated whole adrenal but not the pregnenolone > (and obviously that's not a good choice for you). > > -- > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:18, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have ibs. Is it possible that the iodoral is not being absorbed > > because of my intestinal problems? Also could iodine make adrenal > > fatigue worse? > > > > len > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > No not at all. I just addressed some of your questions in a previous > > email. -- > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:56, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So am I the only one who didn't get quick results from iodine? > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > > iodine > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to > > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that > > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do > > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the > > > buy the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all > > > in one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and > > > take them that way. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge > > > > difference for some. > > > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. > > > > I have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as > > > > ever. Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm > > > > suffering with one right now. Most of the people who responded > > > > said they noticed results within a very short time. Is there > > > > anyone who had to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm > > > > taking the companion nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 len, I had some fast results for my problems (fibrocystic breast disease) and very slow results for Hashimoto's disease. I got rid of my breast tenderness in the second part of my cycle after six weeks. I had been putting progesterone cream on them for years with no results. I have had a reduction in my breast lumps but they are still there after nearly 2 1/2 years on iodine. They take a long time to go from what I have heard from others, but it is worth getting rid of them in the long term. It took me nearly two years to reduce my Hashi abs. Keep going. If you think you have gut issues, go gluten free. I think that is what caused me to have sudden progress with my Hashi ABs. I am very glad that I have persevered with iodine. My mother died of BC in both breasts at 51 and she was already ill with cancer at my age. I was OK at my last scan. Keep going, you are getting better from something very serious and it will take time. MacG. > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to 150mg/day > > > and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any > > > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week in a > > > major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy periods for > > > years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. Someone > > > mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering with one > > > right now. Most of the people who responded said they noticed > > > results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had to wait > > > longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion nutrients > > > and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 When you say breast lumps, do you mean cancer?len From: <s.macgilxrist@...> iodine Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:30 AM Subject: Re: New member--success stories? len, I had some fast results for my problems (fibrocystic breast disease) and very slow results for Hashimoto's disease. I got rid of my breast tenderness in the second part of my cycle after six weeks. I had been putting progesterone cream on them for years with no results. I have had a reduction in my breast lumps but they are still there after nearly 2 1/2 years on iodine. They take a long time to go from what I have heard from others, but it is worth getting rid of them in the long term. It took me nearly two years to reduce my Hashi abs. Keep going. If you think you have gut issues, go gluten free. I think that is what caused me to have sudden progress with my Hashi ABs. I am very glad that I have persevered with iodine. My mother died of BC in both breasts at 51 and she was already ill with cancer at my age. I was OK at my last scan. Keep going, you are getting better from something very serious and it will take time. MacG. > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to 150mg/day > > > and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any > > > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week in a > > > major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy periods for > > > years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. Someone > > > mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering with one > > > right now. Most of the people who responded said they noticed > > > results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had to wait > > > longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion nutrients > > > and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 IBS responds really well to LDN. www.ldninfo.org -- On 14 Feb 2012 at 17:48, Marsh wrote: > > > > > I have no private health insurance so there has been no test - and > none of the doctors I have attended believe in 'ADRENAL > INSUFFICIENCY', in fact my GP basically said that if my adrenals were > exhausted I would be dead. Likewise only the doctor at the women's > health centre is anything like supportive of iodine supplementation - > and that is only because she has seen the sites where my ulcerations > have healed since I commenced iodine supplementation. I had informed > her that I took two courses of antibiotics which did stop the > ulcerations from getting worse, but did not heal them. > > Basically I SEARCHED for information about adrenal insufficiency as I > saw so much posted here about it - and identified with many of the > symptoms. > > The herbal preparation seems unlikely to cause me problems, at worse > it may be a waste of money, but it contains herbs like ashwaghanda > which seem to be adaptogens. > > My daughter has a form of IBS, and has had a colonoscopy etc which > indicates some inflammation but little else, so I have offered to let > her try the herbal supplement, and I am hoping that it does help her. > When she has an attack she often has to be hospitalised. > > > > > Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the buy > > the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all in > > one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and take > > them that way. > > > > -- > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge > > > difference for some. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. > > > Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering > > > with one right now. Most of the people who responded said they > > > noticed results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had > > > to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion > > > nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yes, that's how I took my salt. Actually more than that during the height of it, because my body wanted it. It took about 3 months before I got better. Your sleep habits won't affect the test. While we do cover adrenals on this list, we don't want to get too far afield talking specifically about adrenals here, all of us have to remain disciplined about focusing on iodine. With 6,000 members, it would be easy to have hundreds of emails a day, which would not be workable for anyone. -- moderator On 14 Feb 2012 at 1:53, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > So you took a tablespoon in water in addition to salt on your food? > How long did it take you to start to feel better? I want to take the > saliva test, but my sleep is all messed up...I can't fall asleep until > 2am and I can't get up until 11 or so. Is that going to skew the test > results? > > len > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:56 PM > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > I took the salt in glasses of water, throughout the day. Also, > additionally liberal use on food. But only UNREFINED salt. > > I have been using Ester C which stays in circuluation for 24 hours. I > really like it and it's available everywhere. > > I took the saliva test where you have 4 swabs that you do throughout > the day at speciified times, as someone else was describing. No other > test is valid. The Functional Med MD told me it was the worst result > she'd ever seen. > > So if I can heal as I've described, I know others can too. But, with > your ca dx you really should be getting iodine-literate nutritional > advice from an ND, someone who can oversee your program but who is > WILLING to help you with the iodine. You need it. btw, so does your > daughter. > > -- > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 22:41, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > I haven't done a test for adrenal fatigue, but i feel like I've had > > it for years. Wow a whole tablespoon of salt?! How did you take it? > > Alone, in food, or in water? I'm taking vitamin c, maybe 2g a day > > but I can up it. What kind did you take? Was it a high quality kind? > > How did you get your adrenal fatigue diagnosed? > > > > Sorry about all the questions...I'm getting desperate...I can barely > > function and I have a 6 year old who needs me. > > > > len > > > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:16 PM > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > You need to treat the adrenal fatigue. I treated both at the same > > time. Yes, the iodine revs up your system and that can play up the > > adrenal exhaustion more, but the solution is NOT to wait on iodine > > but to do both. I had been treated for the adrenals by a Functional > > Medicine, Integrative MD for a year, with no success to speak of. > > Then I lost the health insurance that was making those visits > > feasible, so I was on my own. I found the iodine protocol, got > > advice from folks about adding in adrenal treatment, and the > > combination is what successfully treated adrenals. > > > > Of course your adrenals are exhausted after what you've been > > through. > > > > I added 1200IU of mixed tocopherols Vit E > > 1 Tablespoon or more per day of unrefined salt > > 4 to 6 grams of Vit C per day > > pregnenolone > > Isocort > > > > People have healed their adrenals on the iodine protocol without > > those last two items, with just the additional salt and vit C. Or, > > with just Isocort or other dessicated whole adrenal but not the > > pregnenolone (and obviously that's not a good choice for you). > > > > -- > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 20:18, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have ibs. Is it possible that the iodoral is not being absorbed > > > because of my intestinal problems? Also could iodine make adrenal > > > fatigue worse? > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > > iodine > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > No not at all. I just addressed some of your questions in a > > > previous email. -- > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:56, len Ramsey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So am I the only one who didn't get quick results from iodine? > > > > > > > > len > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Baker <vbaker@...> > > > > iodine > > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:07 AM > > > > Subject: Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it > > > > to start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say > > > > that anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results > > > > should do the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't > > > > have to the buy the convenient product that already has the > > > > proper amounts all in one but costs a bit more. You can buy the > > > > two Bs separately and take them that way. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a > > > > > huge difference for some. > > > > > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little > > > > > depressed. I have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I > > > > > worked up to 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I > > > > > haven't noticed any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent > > > > > most of last week in a major brain fog with no energy. I've > > > > > had extremely heavy periods for years and the last one was > > > > > just as miserable as ever. Someone mentioned they don't get > > > > > colds anymore...I'm suffering with one right now. Most of the > > > > > people who responded said they noticed results within a very > > > > > short time. Is there anyone who had to wait longer to see > > > > > improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion nutrients and > > > > > salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hi , LDN is another therapy which is given no respect. In fact most general practitioners will not prescribe it, especially as PubMed seems to have little or nothing to say about it. I think my daughter may become more interested if I can get my neurologist to prescribe it and if it does some good - but then she would need to find an open minded practitioner. Not an easy thing in Australia. Re: New member--success stories?> > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional> > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to> > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that> > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do> > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the buy> > the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all in> > one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and take> > them that way.> > > > --> > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge> > > difference for some.> > > > > > in Alaska> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey> > > <joellenr@...> wrote:> > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I> > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to> > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed> > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week> > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy> > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as ever.> > > Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering> > > with one right now. Most of the people who responded said they> > > noticed results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had> > > to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion> > > nutrients and salt-loading.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I didn't take as much salt as (I took 2 tsp/day) but this is how I did it (and would do it again!). I decided how much water I should be drinking in a day and poured it into a bottle, into which I added my whole day's worth of salt, Vit C (powder) and mag (I take a liquid...yuck. In 2 litres of water you can't taste it though). This actually made a pleasant drink. Sometimes I'd add some lime juice for flavour. Some days I'd live dangerously and add Crystal Lite but mostly I drink it plain. I had no problem with getting the salt or Vit C down that way, and I would pour the mix into a smaller bottle if I had to go out, so I didn't have to worry about dosing while away from home. Most importantly, I think it has helped a lot. Jaye > > I haven't done a test for adrenal fatigue, but i feel like I've had it for years. > > Wow a whole tablespoon of salt?! How did you take it? Alone, in food, or in water? > I'm taking vitamin c, maybe 2g a day but I can up it. What kind did you take? Was it a high quality kind? > How did you get your adrenal fatigue diagnosed? > > Sorry about all the questions...I'm getting desperate...I can barely function and I have a 6 year old who needs me. > > len > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 len, yes IBS can cause absorption issues do maybe you are not absorbing all the iodine and thus not seeing s difference.Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!----- Reply message -----From: " len Ramsey " <joellenr@...> " iodine " <iodine >Subject: New member--success stories?Date: Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:18 pm I have ibs. Is it possible that the iodoral is not being absorbed because of my intestinal problems?Also could iodine make adrenal fatigue worse?len From: Baker <vbaker@...> iodine Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: Re: New member--successstories? No not at all. I just addressed some of your questions in a previous email. --On 13 Feb 2012 at 13:56, len Ramsey wrote:> > > > So am I the only one who didn't get quick results from iodine?> > len> > > From: Baker <vbaker@...>> iodine > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:07 AM> Subject: Re: New member--success stories?> > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional> companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to> start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that anyone> who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do the ATP> Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the buy the> convenient product that already has the proper amounts all in one but> costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and take them that> way.> > --> > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote:> > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge> > difference for some.> > > > in Alaska> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey <joellenr@...>> > wrote:> > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I> > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to 150mg/day> > and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any> > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week in a> > major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy periods for> > years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. Someone> > mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering with one> > right now. Most of the people who responded said they noticed> > results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had to wait> > longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion nutrients> > and salt-loading.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 len,Start with a small amount at one time followed by or in water. For some, putting the whole amount in water will cause you to be nauseous. So start small and use it several times in one day. I just take a pinch at a time and follow it with a few drinks of water. Works well for me. Drinking it all at once makes me nauseous. in AlaskaOn Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:53 AM, len Ramsey <joellenr@...> wrote: Â So you took a tablespoon in water in addition to salt on your food? How long did it take you to start to feel better? I want to take the saliva test, but my sleep is all messed up...I can't fall asleep until 2am and I can't get up until 11 or so. Is that going to skew the test results?len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Oh, I'm sorry. I order mine through www.unitedpharmacies.com and make up the liquid from the tablets. Don't have to have Rx. Put naltrexone in the search box. I can send you a sheet I have (offlist) on how to make and use the liquid at home. btw, like iodine, I'm convinced that the reason LDN doesn't get more respect and use is because it's super cheap and effective. That doesn't fit the bill with Western medicine. But let's leave this discussion from the list for now since it's off topic-- write me offlist if you want more info. vbaker@... --V On 14 Feb 2012 at 23:19, Marsh wrote: > > > > Hi , > LDN is another therapy which is given no respect. In fact most general > practitioners will not prescribe it, especially as PubMed seems to > have little or nothing to say about it. > > I think my daughter may become more interested if I can get my > neurologist to prescribe it and if it does some good - but then she > would need to find an open minded practitioner. > > Not an easy thing in Australia. > > > > > Re: New member--success stories? > > > > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional > > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to > > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that > > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do > > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the > > > buy the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all > > > in one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and > > > take them that way. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge > > > > difference for some. > > > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey > > > > <joellenr@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. > > > > I have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to > > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed > > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week > > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy > > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as > > > > ever. Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm > > > > suffering with one right now. Most of the people who responded > > > > said they noticed results within a very short time. Is there > > > > anyone who had to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm > > > > taking the companion nutrients and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Sorry, I live in France and do all this in French and I can't remember what they are called because it's getting late here but they are not cancerous. Because my mother had a similar history to me of having " lumps " , I am very careful about lumps of any sort. If you have gut inflammation you could also try Low Dose Naltrexone. MacG. > > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I > > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to 150mg/day > > > > and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any > > > > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week in a > > > > major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy periods for > > > > years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. Someone > > > > mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering with one > > > > right now. Most of the people who responded said they noticed > > > > results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had to wait > > > > longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion nutrients > > > > and salt-loading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I get mine there as well, been on it for about 4-5 years and never had a script for it. It is easy to do. One time when I was talking to my (then) Neuro about it (I have MS) he said "well, if it is so cheap and so effective, why has it not been approved for MS?" I said "Doc, you just answered your own question." And he had to agree that that was probably it. ~*~ Hugs ~*~ Akiba ~*~ ~*~ Pragmatic Visionary ~*~ http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=156 -- Re: New member--success stories? Oh, I'm sorry. I order mine through www.unitedpharmacies.com and make up the liquid from the tablets. Don't have to have Rx. Put naltrexone in the search box. I can send you a sheet I have (offlist) on how to make and use the liquid at home.btw, like iodine, I'm convinced that the reason LDN doesn't get more respect and use is because it's super cheap and effective. That doesn't fit the bill with Western medicine.But let's leave this discussion from the list for now since it's off topic-- write me offlist if you want more info. vbaker@...--VOn 14 Feb 2012 at 23:19, Marsh wrote:> > > > Hi , > LDN is another therapy which is given no respect. In fact most general> practitioners will not prescribe it, especially as PubMed seems to> have little or nothing to say about it.> > I think my daughter may become more interested if I can get my> neurologist to prescribe it and if it does some good - but then she> would need to find an open minded practitioner.> > Not an easy thing in Australia.> > > > > Re: New member--success stories?> > > > > > > > > That's right, thank you. That's why it is listed as an optional> > > companion nutrient, is because a large number of people need it to> > > start using the iodine optimally. I'd go so far as to say that> > > anyone who is unhappy with their iodine protocol results should do> > > the ATP Co- factors as a matter of course. You don't have to the> > > buy the convenient product that already has the proper amounts all> > > in one but costs a bit more. You can buy the two Bs separately and> > > take them that way.> > > > > > --> > > > > > On 13 Feb 2012 at 8:41, Hidden Jewel wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you added in the ATP Cofactors (B2/B3)? It can make a huge> > > > difference for some.> > > > > > > > in Alaska> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, len Ramsey> > > > <joellenr@...> wrote:> > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed.> > > > I have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to> > > > 150mg/day and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed> > > > any earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week> > > > in a major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy> > > > periods for years and the last one was just as miserable as> > > > ever. Someone mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm> > > > suffering with one right now. Most of the people who responded> > > > said they noticed results within a very short time. Is there> > > > anyone who had to wait longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm> > > > taking the companion nutrients and salt-loading.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hi len and , Not all breast lumps are cancer. In my own case I was found to have 35 breast lumps, so the specialist did a fine needle aspiration which showed they were benign cysts, probably hormone related. Although I did expect them to disappear at menopause they were still very noticeable until I started the iodine drops. Re: New member--success stories? Sorry, I live in France and do all this in French and I can't remember what they are called because it's getting late here but they are not cancerous. Because my mother had a similar history to me of having "lumps", I am very careful about lumps of any sort.If you have gut inflammation you could also try Low Dose Naltrexone. MacG.> > > > > > > > After reading all the success stories, I am a little depressed. I> > > > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. I worked up to 150mg/day> > > > and have been there for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any> > > > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent most of last week in a> > > > major brain fog with no energy. I've had extremely heavy periods for> > > > years and the last one was just as miserable as ever. Someone> > > > mentioned they don't get colds anymore...I'm suffering with one> > > > right now. Most of the people who responded said they noticed> > > > results within a very short time. Is there anyone who had to wait> > > > longer to see improvements? BTW, I'm taking the companion nutrients> > > > and salt-loading.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Loretta, One of the big questions I've come to as I've stayed with this e-mail group is the whole cleansing thing, how to unblock detox pathways. If you wanted to go to IodineOT & tell me more about liver/gallbladder/digestive cleanses, I'd really appreciate hearing the details. Thanks, in Nashville > > > > > > > > I am a new member to the group and just started taking iodine > > yesterday. I have been reading all the recent messages and seeing a > > lot of messages on negative side effects. I have done a lot of reading > > on all of the positive effects of iodine/iodide, but would any of you > > be willing to share how it has changed your health for the better? > > When I read things on websites trying to sell something I am never > > sure how honest it is? > > > > Thank you in advance! > > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Be sure that your B-12 level is where it's supposed to be. Intestinal problems are almost always accompanied by low B-12 levels. Peace and gratitude, Dean > >> > > >> > After reading all the success stories, I am > a little depressed. I > >> > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. > I worked up to 150mg/day > >> > and have been there for a few weeks. I > haven't noticed any > >> > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent > most of last week in a > >> > major brain fog with no energy. I've had > extremely heavy periods for > >> > years and the last one was just as > miserable as ever. Someone > >> > mentioned they don't get colds > anymore...I'm suffering with one > >> > right now. Most of the people > who responded said they noticed > >> > results within a very short time. > Is there anyone who had to wait > >> > longer to see improvements? BTW, > I'm taking the companion nutrients > >> > and salt-loading. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'm a big meat eater but I'll get it checked.len From: anon <oceanpine@...> iodine Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: New member--success stories? Be sure that your B-12 level is where it's supposed to be. Intestinal problems are almost always accompanied by low B-12 levels. Peace and gratitude, Dean > >> > > >> > After reading all the success stories, I am > a little depressed. I > >> > have been taking iodine for about 3 months. > I worked up to 150mg/day > >> > and have been there for a few weeks. I > haven't noticed any > >> > earth-shattering results. In fact, I spent > most of last week in a > >> > major brain fog with no energy. I've had > extremely heavy periods for > >> > years and the last one was just as > miserable as ever. Someone > >> > mentioned they don't get colds > anymore...I'm suffering with one > >> > right now. Most of the people > who responded said they noticed > >> > results within a very short time. > Is there anyone who had to wait > >> > longer to see improvements? BTW, > I'm taking the companion nutrients > >> > and salt-loading. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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