Guest guest Posted November 13, 2000 Report Share Posted November 13, 2000 > I am having an intermittent cough though I have no signs of any acute > respiratory infection. I am wondering if others have this and if it is > just one of many symtptoms of this illness. I was wondering if it could > be related to some type of chronic infection? > Phil Yes - I have a cough too. It seems to be directly related to how I'm going. If I don't stop what I'm doing when I am beginning to overdo things, I start to have trouble breathing - shallow, stop start, breath holding etc.(which I cannot control). Then I start to cough. The longer I keep going, the worse the cough. My dr suggested I try ventolin - which actually works, if I use it early enough - absolutely useless once my throat is irritated by the coughing. The cough is mostly dry, but can be productive if my throat is really irritated. My theory is that I get constriction in my airways directly related to acute fatigue. I've never been dx'd asthma. The wheezing is only in my throat, not lower down. For me, I don't think it's an infection at all. Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2000 Report Share Posted November 13, 2000 Phil Comer wrote: > I am having an intermittent cough though I have no signs of any acute > respiratory infection. I am wondering if others have this and if it is > > just one of many symtptoms of this illness. I was wondering if it > could > be related to some type of chronic infection? Intermittent cough can be any number of things. Allergies, asthma/bronchospasm, overly thick mucous, GERD are just a few in addition to respiratory infections (chronic or acute). Are you taking guaifenesin? I've found that drinking LOTS of water along with taking guai (600 mg BID) helps keep the cough away. (It's cheap, it's available generically, and has few if any side effects - most doctors feel comfortable prescribing it.) If the cough gets bad, I use an asthma inhaler. Do you have any heartburn, reflux, or other signs of GERD? I've read recently that cough is one of the signs of " silent " GERD. If in doubt, see a gastroenterologist and get checked out. Is your cough worse in certain rooms, or outside? Think about whether you might be having an allergic reaction to something you are breathing. I use HEPA filters in all the main rooms of my house, and leave them running all the time. This helps immensely. So do Allergy Control Covers in the bedroom: box springs, mattress, comforter, and pillows are all encased. Other linen and blankets are washed in hot water and dried on hot, at least every two weeks. Breathing steam can help a cough. So can applying heat to the upper chest (heating pad, microwaved herb/seed bag, or - if you can tolerate it - Tiger Balm or another heating rub). You can also do " percussion massage " on yourself - just tap with fingertips held together all over your upper chest, preferably after breathing steam or using Tiger Balm. It's amazing what this can loosen up. Hope this helps! -- el - andrea@... (IFF " FNORD " appears - remove it from my email address to reply) " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2000 Report Share Posted November 13, 2000 This is one of the symptoms of CFS. I had it for years - think it's related to my ongoing EBV/chronic mononucleosis. Mine has been better since I have worked on my immune system with Sterinol, Transfer Factor, and Thymus supplement. Jennie --- Parkinson <keripar@...> wrote: > > I am having an intermittent cough though I have no > signs of any acute > > respiratory infection. I am wondering if others > have this and if it is > > just one of many symtptoms of this illness. I was > wondering if it could > > be related to some type of chronic infection? > > Phil > > Yes - I have a cough too. It seems to be directly > related to how I'm going. > If I don't stop what I'm doing when I am beginning > to overdo things, I start > to have trouble breathing - shallow, stop start, > breath holding etc.(which I > cannot control). Then I start to cough. The longer > I keep going, the worse > the cough. My dr suggested I try ventolin - which > actually works, if I use > it early enough - absolutely useless once my throat > is irritated by the > coughing. The cough is mostly dry, but can be > productive if my throat is > really irritated. My theory is that I get > constriction in my airways > directly related to acute fatigue. I've never been > dx'd asthma. The > wheezing is only in my throat, not lower down. For > me, I don't think it's > an infection at all. > Kerry > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2000 Report Share Posted November 13, 2000 I don't know if you're taking antibiotics or whey protein, but I cough from herx'ing. Usually right after a dose of antibiotics w/bromelain. Benadryl stops the coughing. Cindi " Parkinson " <keripar@...> 11/13/00 11:24 AM Please respond to <egroups> cc: Subject: Re: Cough > I am having an intermittent cough though I have no signs of any acute > respiratory infection. I am wondering if others have this and if it is > just one of many symtptoms of this illness. I was wondering if it could > be related to some type of chronic infection? > Phil Yes - I have a cough too. It seems to be directly related to how I'm going. If I don't stop what I'm doing when I am beginning to overdo things, I start to have trouble breathing - shallow, stop start, breath holding etc.(which I cannot control). Then I start to cough. The longer I keep going, the worse the cough. My dr suggested I try ventolin - which actually works, if I use it early enough - absolutely useless once my throat is irritated by the coughing. The cough is mostly dry, but can be productive if my throat is really irritated. My theory is that I get constriction in my airways directly related to acute fatigue. I've never been dx'd asthma. The wheezing is only in my throat, not lower down. For me, I don't think it's an infection at all. Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Collette, I don't believe I saw you mention Vitamin C. Gotta get some C in ya!!! <A HREF= " http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/klenner-fr-j_appl_nutr-1971-v2\ 3-n3 & 4-p61.htm " >www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/klenner-fr-j_appl_nutr-1971\ -v23-n3 & 4-p61.htm</A> <A HREF= " http://www.orthomed.com/index.htm " >http://www.orthomed.com/index.htm</A> <A HREF= " http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/ " >http://www.vitamincfoundation.org</A> <A HREF= " http://www.cforyourself.com/ " >http://www.cforyourself.com</A> Kathleen Vaccine info at http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html <A HREF= " http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html " >VaccineWebsite.com</A> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm <A HREF= " http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " >Vaccination Information & Choice Network - Vaccine/Vaccination/Immunization Dangers</A> www.vaccinationnews.com <A HREF= " http://www.vaccinationnews.com/ " >New Page 1</A> " May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on the worth of vaccination. " ~ Bernard Shaw In a message dated 2/21/2002 2:27:55 PM Central Standard Time, Epicurus000@... writes: > Hello everyone. My family has been sick for a little over a week. I seem > to be holding on to this darn cough. I was wondering if anyone had any > specific suggestions for me. I have been doing homeopathic FERRUM PHOS. > 30X > for about the 1st 4 days. I seemed to help some. It did wonders for my 9 > yr. old son. I switched to a combination for flu symptoms that I had from > a > long time ago. I did nothing. It was from sun source and has about 8 > remedies in it. Maybe it was too old... Herbally I have been taking Yerba > Santa which is a wonderful expectorant. It is helping the coughs to be > somewhat productive but it just seems to go on and on. My kids seem to > have > come out on the other side mostly but not me. I am also steeping rosemary > in the house which, if nothing else, smells good:) I have added a garlic > table to my daily regimen and did zinc tablets for the first few days. I > also did Echinacea for the fist several days. I have gotten too lazy at > this point I think to keep up with it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 What other uses are there for Vitamin C that I don't know about? I know about the immune booster but what else? --- HolisticMomma@... wrote: > Collette, I don't believe I saw you mention Vitamin > C. Gotta get some C in > ya!!! > > <A > HREF= " http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/klenner-fr-j_appl_nutr-1971-v2\ 3-n3 & 4-p61.htm " >www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/klenner-fr-j_appl_nutr-1971\ -v23-n3 & > > 4-p61.htm</A> > > <A > HREF= " http://www.orthomed.com/index.htm " >http://www.orthomed.com/index.htm</A> > > <A > HREF= " http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/ " >http://www.vitamincfoundation.org</A> > > <A > HREF= " http://www.cforyourself.com/ " >http://www.cforyourself.com</A> > > Kathleen > Vaccine info at http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html <A > HREF= " http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html " >VaccineWebsite.com</A> > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm <A > HREF= " http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " >Vaccination > Information & Choice > Network - Vaccine/Vaccination/Immunization > Dangers</A> > www.vaccinationnews.com <A > HREF= " http://www.vaccinationnews.com/ " >New Page > 1</A> > > " May as well consult a butcher on the value of > vegetarianism as a doctor on > the worth of vaccination. " ~ Bernard Shaw > > > > > > In a message dated 2/21/2002 2:27:55 PM Central > Standard Time, > Epicurus000@... writes: > > > > Hello everyone. My family has been sick for a > little over a week. I seem > > to be holding on to this darn cough. I was > wondering if anyone had any > > specific suggestions for me. I have been doing > homeopathic FERRUM PHOS. > > 30X > > for about the 1st 4 days. I seemed to help some. > It did wonders for my 9 > > yr. old son. I switched to a combination for flu > symptoms that I had from > > a > > long time ago. I did nothing. It was from sun > source and has about 8 > > remedies in it. Maybe it was too old... Herbally > I have been taking Yerba > > Santa which is a wonderful expectorant. It is > helping the coughs to be > > somewhat productive but it just seems to go on and > on. My kids seem to > > have > > come out on the other side mostly but not me. I > am also steeping rosemary > > in the house which, if nothing else, smells good:) > I have added a garlic > > table to my daily regimen and did zinc tablets for > the first few days. I > > also did Echinacea for the fist several days. I > have gotten too lazy at > > this point I think to keep up with it. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 It sounds to me that to have the cough bug that hangs and hangs and hangs. Its a virsus that is going around. My son Mason who is 2yrs. old had that earlier this winter. He got it right around Thanksgiving and it didn't go away till around Christmas. There's really nothing that I tried to make it go away, the only made the cough a little more soothing instead hurting. ~Carlena --- epicurus000 <Epicurus000@...> wrote: > Hello everyone. My family has been sick for a > little over a week. I seem > to be holding on to this darn cough. I was > wondering if anyone had any > specific suggestions for me. I have been doing > homeopathic FERRUM PHOS. 30X > for about the 1st 4 days. I seemed to help some. > It did wonders for my 9 > yr. old son. I switched to a combination for flu > symptoms that I had from a > long time ago. I did nothing. It was from sun > source and has about 8 > remedies in it. Maybe it was too old... Herbally I > have been taking Yerba > Santa which is a wonderful expectorant. It is > helping the coughs to be > somewhat productive but it just seems to go on and > on. My kids seem to have > come out on the other side mostly but not me. I am > also steeping rosemary > in the house which, if nothing else, smells good:) > I have added a garlic > table to my daily regimen and did zinc tablets for > the first few days. I > also did Echinacea for the fist several days. I > have gotten too lazy at > this point I think to keep up with it. > On another note. I participate on a debate forum > where vaccinations are > being debated. Would any of you be interested in > setting someone straight:) > Here is a sample form her latest post. > > " Just wanted to point out that you don't necessarily > need a parallel control > group...there is such a thing as a " longitudinal > study " in which you measure > a parameter before and after a given intervention > (such as mass vaxing) and > see if the incidence of a disease changes. It can > help determine a cause-and > effect relationship if the effect is marked. > This has been very effective both in 1) determining > the decline of disease > as a result of vaxes, 2) determining the association > between vaxes and > supposed side effects (such as MMR and autism). > > With regards to #1, a huge drop in new cases in the > years after the vax is > introduces, such as you can see with the measles vax > (introduced in 1963): > > (here she shows a graph that shows the incidence > goes way down a few years > before the vaccine was introduced) > > (and here is her conclusion) > is very suggestive of the effectiveness of the vax. > > Likewise, there was no sudden jump in autism cases > after the intoduction of > the MMR vax in 1988 in Britain, which would suggest > that the rise in autism > cases has nothing to do with the vax but rather with > greater awareness among > physicians and the general public. An interesting > link explaining more > reason why there is no proven link between autism > and any vax: > http://www.quackwatch.com/03HealthP...mmu/autism.html " > > Here is a link to the page on the BB where vaxes are > discussed > http://www.momswhothink.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s= & forumid=24 > > Please be aware this is a debate board and it can > get pretty heated. If you > don't like this sort of thing you should avoid going > there. > > Hope to see some of you there:) > Collette > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Don't have time for all of oyur post, but did you look at the homeopathy and coughs file at the website? vaccinations sign in and then click on files on the left and find the file folder every child requires a different remedy At 12:23 PM 02/21/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Hello everyone. My family has been sick for a little over a week. I seem >to be holding on to this darn cough. I was wondering if anyone had any >specific suggestions for me. I have been doing homeopathic FERRUM PHOS. 30X >for about the 1st 4 days. I seemed to help some. It did wonders for my 9 >yr. old son. I switched to a combination for flu symptoms that I had from a >long time ago. I did nothing. It was from sun source and has about 8 -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 At 02:03 PM 02/21/2002 -0800, you wrote: >It sounds to me that to have the cough bug that hangs >and hangs and hangs. Its a virsus that is going >around. My son Mason who is 2yrs. old had that earlier >this winter. He got it right around Thanksgiving and >it didn't go away till around Christmas. There's >really nothing that I tried to make it go away, the >only made the cough a little more soothing instead >hurting. >~Carlena And many many times this is pertussis, but doctors don't test for it. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 At 12:23 PM 21/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Hello everyone. My family has been sick for a little over a week. I seem >to be holding on to this darn cough. I was wondering if anyone had any >specific suggestions for me. I have been doing homeopathic FERRUM PHOS. 30X >for about the 1st 4 days. I seemed to help some. It did wonders for my 9 >yr. old son. I switched to a combination for flu symptoms that I had from a >long time ago. I did nothing. It was from sun source and has about 8 >remedies in it. Maybe it was too old... Herbally I have been taking Yerba >Santa which is a wonderful expectorant. It is helping the coughs to be >somewhat productive but it just seems to go on and on. My kids seem to have >come out on the other side mostly but not me. I am also steeping rosemary >in the house which, if nothing else, smells good:) I have added a garlic >table to my daily regimen and did zinc tablets for the first few days. I >also did Echinacea for the fist several days. I have gotten too lazy at >this point I think to keep up with it. You said you have been sick for just over a week...I wouldn't worry too much about a cough at this point, if it were me anyway, as long as it is gradually getting better rather than worse. Of course this is just my opinion. I know it is important to be able to cough up the mucous in your chest...so as long as your cough is productive then it has an important function! (which is why I never use cough suppressants) As long as your illness is progressing at a good pace then I don't worry too much...continue supportive measures and let your body get a good cleansing! The only thing I have really found to help with illnesses overall is my homeopathic constitutional remedy...it helps remove your susceptibility toward catching the illnesses in the first place...or to speed things along and avoid complications when you are already sick. Being treated constitutionally has helped my body heal much faster overall...even something as simple as if a get a boil or a pimple it comes to a head to drain within a day rather than a week or more. There is a nasty flu going around that can last up to 8 weeks in some people. It was my constitutional treatment that broke through to get rid of it sooner, thank God! HTH (BC Canada) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Actually, my peds dpctpr did, because so many chidlren between newborns thru 12yrs old were coming up and he wasn't so sure that it was a virsus, so we had to have mason tested. For me it was a relief for it to be a virsus. Carlena --- Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > At 02:03 PM 02/21/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >It sounds to me that to have the cough bug that > hangs > >and hangs and hangs. Its a virsus that is going > >around. My son Mason who is 2yrs. old had that > earlier > >this winter. He got it right around Thanksgiving > and > >it didn't go away till around Christmas. There's > >really nothing that I tried to make it go away, the > >only made the cough a little more soothing instead > >hurting. > >~Carlena > > And many many times this is pertussis, but doctors > don't test for it. > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada > City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by > Paypal account > vaccineinfo@... > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 > Voicemail in US > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS > MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & > OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 The unfortunate thing about testing for pertussis, is that it is a rather fragile bacteria. It often times dies before the culture can be properly read. It also is only detectable for a short period of time, while the effects of having it can go on for a very long time. It also opens the body up (by weakening it) to other secondary infections. So you can start out with pertussis, and end up with a cold once your body is worn down. From what I learned when my boys went through it a while back, is that the best way to diagnose it is to rely on someone who is used to seeing it for diagnosis (or getting tested as soon as you come down with symptoms, which most people don't do because they just assume it's a cold at first). Most doctors today aren't trained to recognize and understand what they are seeing. If all their wonderful little tests don't say it's so, it must not be so! Never mind what may blatantly be in front of their faces... Liz Re: Cough Actually, my peds dpctpr did, because so many chidlren between newborns thru 12yrs old were coming up and he wasn't so sure that it was a virsus, so we had to have mason tested. For me it was a relief for it to be a virsus. Carlena --- Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > At 02:03 PM 02/21/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >It sounds to me that to have the cough bug that > hangs > >and hangs and hangs. Its a virsus that is going > >around. My son Mason who is 2yrs. old had that > earlier > >this winter. He got it right around Thanksgiving > and > >it didn't go away till around Christmas. There's > >really nothing that I tried to make it go away, the > >only made the cough a little more soothing instead > >hurting. > >~Carlena > > And many many times this is pertussis, but doctors > don't test for it. > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada > City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by > Paypal account > vaccineinfo@... > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 > Voicemail in US > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS > MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & > OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 That may be for other doctors but the one that my son goes to is a specialist. He deals with children that have special needs, breathing problems, immune system problems and so on. He is used to testing for it and knows the signs. That's why we started going to him. Mason had a breathing problem as a child and plus as a single parent I wanted a male doc, just in case I wasn't married or we didn't have a good male role model in his life that he could talk to about stuff, this doctor is here for him. I have no regrets what's so ever about having him as Mason's peds doc. He actually is very supportive about the natural medicine that I use of them before I bring them in. Mason didn't have the vaccine that was for the pertussis. He's allergic to the stuff that is used with it. he had one shot and had a voilent reaction. SO Dr. T won't let Mason have it. Carlena --- " Liz A. " <sandoz@...> wrote: > The unfortunate thing about testing for pertussis, > is that it is a rather fragile bacteria. It often > times dies before the culture can be properly read. > It also is only detectable for a short period of > time, while the effects of having it can go on for a > very long time. It also opens the body up (by > weakening it) to other secondary infections. So you > can start out with pertussis, and end up with a cold > once your body is worn down. > > From what I learned when my boys went through it a > while back, is that the best way to diagnose it is > to rely on someone who is used to seeing it for > diagnosis (or getting tested as soon as you come > down with symptoms, which most people don't do > because they just assume it's a cold at first). Most > doctors today aren't trained to recognize and > understand what they are seeing. If all their > wonderful little tests don't say it's so, it must > not be so! Never mind what may blatantly be in front > of their faces... > > Liz > > > > Re: Cough > > > Actually, my peds dpctpr did, because so many > chidlren > between newborns thru 12yrs old were coming up and > he > wasn't so sure that it was a virsus, so we had to > have > mason tested. For me it was a relief for it to be > a > virsus. > > Carlena > --- Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> > wrote: > > At 02:03 PM 02/21/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >It sounds to me that to have the cough bug that > > hangs > > >and hangs and hangs. Its a virsus that is going > > >around. My son Mason who is 2yrs. old had that > > earlier > > >this winter. He got it right around > Thanksgiving > > and > > >it didn't go away till around Christmas. > There's > > >really nothing that I tried to make it go away, > the > > >only made the cough a little more soothing > instead > > >hurting. > > >~Carlena > > > > And many many times this is pertussis, but > doctors > > don't test for it. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada > > City CA & Wales UK > > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by > > Paypal account > > vaccineinfo@... > > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > > PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 > > Voicemail in US > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS > > MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site > Tours > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX > & > > OTHER Vaccine Dangers > > Education, Homeopathic Education > > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water > Filters > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 What ISN " T Vit C good for? Cancer,surgery,trauma, etc... Laurie What other uses are there for Vitamin C that I don't know about? I know about the immune booster but what else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 At 07:02 AM 12/05/2003 -0800, Steve wrote: >My 22 month old daughter has her first cough and I am not sure what to do >for her. She seems fine other than the slightly congested sounding cough. >I want to nip it in the bud before she gets worse. All of your experience >will help me right now. Please make suggestions. > > > nipping it in the bud is not always the best choice just wait and see cough is there for a reason - to get something out If it becomes a problem - not getting better, getting worse, going deeper then look at the remedies that fit her specific cough But everyone has got to get more used to allowing their children to have some illness (which builds the immune system) I understand not wanting them to suffer, but in the long run they will suffer more -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Danny does this too. He seems to have problems with foods that crumble and with meats. He has more problems with liquids though. Danny's is from acid reflux and swallowing difficulties he's had since birth. He has had numerous swallow studies at our University's hospital and it is time for another. It is really difficult for us to tell which of the two things is causing the problem. We just have to pay real close attention to if he is coughing or swallowing hard when not eating or drinking. Tabitha mom to Danny 6 (DS) Bethany 10 and 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 This doesn't happen to , but it happens to me! After a cold it takes forever for the cough to go away. The only thing that helps is Robitussin DM. A few days of that and the cough clears up. granny On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Kerrigan <leslie-kerrigan@...>wrote: > > > Anyone else's child have a cough most of the time? When gets > a cold, she continues to cough for a long time after the cold is gone. > It sounds deep and horrible, but when I take her in, they listen and say > " her lungs are totally clear. " Apparently, the hacking cough is coming > more from her throat. We've tried a lot of things, but nothing works > very well, and she just gets exhausted from coughing bouts. Over the > years I've had to send in doctor's notes that she's not sick, let her > come to school, etc. There are no other signs of illness, no fever, > nose snot, vomiting or diareaha.... only thing she has been saying > lately is her tummy hurts, but she's pointing to the area below her > ribs, where you get really sore muscles from coughing a lot! > > This last bout has lasted a long time.... she had a cold around > Thanksgiving, and has coughed on and off since then. It was getting > better, but after her week at camp, it's really bad. We happened to be > at a new encodrinologist yesterday, and I said " hey, check out her > lungs " and she said " you bet, she sounds bad " and then after extensive > listening, before, during, after coughing, she said the exact same thing > that 3 different pediatrians have said over they years... " her lungs are > totally clear.... it sounds higher, like in her throat. " > > I've been told to give her Benadryl (to dry it up), Sudafed (to loosen > up the suspected post-nasal drip), OTC cough medicines, etc. Obviously, > she can't go to school with Benadryl or cough meds (she falls asleep) > and it doesn't seem like a good long term solution.... she'd be taking > this stuff virtually all the time. Any suggestions or advice would be > helpful.... she's tired, I'm tired (because we all know mom's can't > sleep well when kids make noises at night!). > > Thanks, > , mom to (14), (12 DS), and Sammy (10) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 does have GERD? Has anybody done an x-ray to make sure she doesn't have aspiration pneumonia? Mica used to get pneumonia without even a cough. He would just get lethargic, tummy hurt and then throw up. No fever. After the first bout when I knew his symptoms I was insistent on an x-ray because every time they listened and said his lungs were perfectly clear and each time after the x-ray they would shake their collecrtive heads and say " wow pneumonia "  When he was int eh hospital with very low O2 scores they would listen and say his lungs sounded perfectly clear. If she has had a cough that long I think I would have them do an x-ray to rule out the possibility of pneumonia. Just a thought.  Loree cough  Anyone else's child have a cough most of the time? When gets a cold, she continues to cough for a long time after the cold is gone. It sounds deep and horrible, but when I take her in, they listen and say " her lungs are totally clear. " Apparently, the hacking cough is coming more from her throat. We've tried a lot of things, but nothing works very well, and she just gets exhausted from coughing bouts. Over the years I've had to send in doctor's notes that she's not sick, let her come to school, etc. There are no other signs of illness, no fever, nose snot, vomiting or diareaha.... only thing she has been saying lately is her tummy hurts, but she's pointing to the area below her ribs, where you get really sore muscles from coughing a lot! This last bout has lasted a long time.... she had a cold around Thanksgiving, and has coughed on and off since then. It was getting better, but after her week at camp, it's really bad. We happened to be at a new encodrinologist yesterday, and I said " hey, check out her lungs " and she said " you bet, she sounds bad " and then after extensive listening, before, during, after coughing, she said the exact same thing that 3 different pediatrians have said over they years... " her lungs are totally clear.... it sounds higher, like in her throat. " I've been told to give her Benadryl (to dry it up), Sudafed (to loosen up the suspected post-nasal drip), OTC cough medicines, etc. Obviously, she can't go to school with Benadryl or cough meds (she falls asleep) and it doesn't seem like a good long term solution.... she'd be taking this stuff virtually all the time. Any suggestions or advice would be helpful.... she's tired, I'm tired (because we all know mom's can't sleep well when kids make noises at night!). Thanks, , mom to (14), (12 DS), and Sammy (10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I wasn't thinking but it was after Alden had pneumonia a few times that he was put on Zyrtec at night and Singulair.  He did a lot better with those medications even though he has no allergies.  Kiersten From: Loree5@... <Loree5@...> Subject: Re: cough leslie-kerrigan@..., Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:23 PM  does have GERD? Has anybody done an x-ray to make sure she doesn't have aspiration pneumonia? Mica used to get pneumonia without even a cough. He would just get lethargic, tummy hurt and then throw up. No fever. After the first bout when I knew his symptoms I was insistent on an x-ray because every time they listened and said his lungs were perfectly clear and each time after the x-ray they would shake their collecrtive heads and say " wow pneumonia "  When he was int eh hospital with very low O2 scores they would listen and say his lungs sounded perfectly clear. If she has had a cough that long I think I would have them do an x-ray to rule out the possibility of pneumonia. Just a thought.  Loree cough  Anyone else's child have a cough most of the time? When gets a cold, she continues to cough for a long time after the cold is gone. It sounds deep and horrible, but when I take her in, they listen and say " her lungs are totally clear. " Apparently, the hacking cough is coming more from her throat. We've tried a lot of things, but nothing works very well, and she just gets exhausted from coughing bouts. Over the years I've had to send in doctor's notes that she's not sick, let her come to school, etc. There are no other signs of illness, no fever, nose snot, vomiting or diareaha.... only thing she has been saying lately is her tummy hurts, but she's pointing to the area below her ribs, where you get really sore muscles from coughing a lot! This last bout has lasted a long time.... she had a cold around Thanksgiving, and has coughed on and off since then. It was getting better, but after her week at camp, it's really bad. We happened to be at a new encodrinologist yesterday, and I said " hey, check out her lungs " and she said " you bet, she sounds bad " and then after extensive listening, before, during, after coughing, she said the exact same thing that 3 different pediatrians have said over they years... " her lungs are totally clear.... it sounds higher, like in her throat. " I've been told to give her Benadryl (to dry it up), Sudafed (to loosen up the suspected post-nasal drip), OTC cough medicines, etc. Obviously, she can't go to school with Benadryl or cough meds (she falls asleep) and it doesn't seem like a good long term solution.... she'd be taking this stuff virtually all the time. Any suggestions or advice would be helpful.... she's tired, I'm tired (because we all know mom's can't sleep well when kids make noises at night!). Thanks, , mom to (14), (12 DS), and Sammy (10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Hi - My son had a cough very similar to what you described although it would get worse at night. He had it for months and tried several treatments. It was a throat-based cough with clear lungs but still rather harsh. Prednisone and Zithromax finally got rid of it. All the best, Nadine Briggs, Founder, Social Smart Kids E-Mail Address: nbriggs@... www.socialsmartkids.com " Many people have gone further than they thought they could because someone else thought they could. " - Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 A few years ago, my youngest kept a cough following an illness. Doc said it had to do with an irritation of the airways and had us using Jessie's old machine to give him saline or maybe albuterol (can't remember) treatments for a week or so to clear it up. It's very wearing for them to keep coughing, so you want to get rid of the cause and stop it. Judi From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Nadine Briggs Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:30 AM Subject: Re:cough Hi - My son had a cough very similar to what you described although it would get worse at night. He had it for months and tried several treatments. It was a throat-based cough with clear lungs but still rather harsh. Prednisone and Zithromax finally got rid of it. All the best, Nadine Briggs, Founder, Social Smart Kids E-Mail Address: nbriggs@... <mailto:nbriggs%40socialsmartkids.com> www.socialsmartkids.com " Many people have gone further than they thought they could because someone else thought they could. " - Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Thank you everyone for you great suggestions and personal experiences with chronic coughing. I tried to get our pediatrician to give her a little Rx cough medicine so that she could sleep at night, but she refused, and after my phone badgering via the triage nurse, offered to call in an antibiotic (which ticked me off big time... she's not sick and I'm so opposed to overuse of antibiotics.) So #1 was to get rid of this pediatrician... this was the last straw.... there must be better.... I could understand if we hadn't seen her recently, or if she hadn't been examined by another doctor that day to say she was well, and her lungs were clear, but she wouldn't even talk about it. The coughing has been getting worse daily now, and in part, I think because she's coughing so much, so just can't stop. The really great triage nurse who I spoke with several times on Wednesday (while relaying the ex-pediatrician's lame replies to me) made us a morning appt for Thursday with new Ped. The new Ped listened to my extensive history, asked good questions, and examined . She respected my desire to figure out what was going on, although she didn't hear anything in her lungs, asked if I minded if we did a chest X-ray anyway, just in case (which was clear.) She referred to an Allergist (she was surprised to hear that this had not been done before by the now ex-Ped) and said that they'd look for allergies and asthma (she also mentioned the " coughing only " asthma), and then said that because they deal with the " chronic coughers " first, that they were also very good at diagnosing GERD and/or making the appropriate referral. She agreed that was getting very wiped out, and gave her the Rx cough med for nighttime... she slept last night with only a couple bouts of coughing... much improved. But, since everyone agreed that this " throaty " cough is mucus that could be coughed up, I tried giving her LOTS of fluids to try and thin the secretions, and Mucinex (at new Ped's recommendation.) So, that's probably why the coughing was worse today, but maybe more productive. We also discussed the possibility of a sinus infection (since that's the only thing that might still be infected.... her lungs, throat, and ears are fine, LOL) and she gave my a Rx for an an antibiotic if I saw signs of a sinus infection and wanted to fill it, so I didn't have to come back just for that. So, Allergist on Feb 11th (not too bad a wait... I was expecting worse), and then if they don't find an allergy and/or asthma, we'll move towards the GERD angle. I've been doing a lot of allergy thinking since she made the referral, and am kind of kicking myself... was VERY allergic to milk, from the first sip of formula at about 4 months, until she was about 3 (when Grandma accidentally gave her a spoonful of ice cream, LOL.) She would vomit violently for hours from the tiniest amount of milk product. But, nothing happened at age 3 with the accidental ice cream, so we slowly tried various milk product and no more vomiting... she seemed fine. Now I'm wondering if the allergy was still there, she just is showing it differently? Thanks again for all the advice... I'm keeping it all together for my trip to the allergist! , mom to (14), (12 DS), and Sammy (10) >> Anyone else's child have a cough most of the time? When gets >> a cold, she continues to cough for a long time after the cold is gone. >> It sounds deep and horrible, but when I take her in, they listen and say >> " her lungs are totally clear. " Apparently, the hacking cough is coming >> more from her throat. We've tried a lot of things, but nothing works >> very well, and she just gets exhausted from coughing bouts. Over the >> years I've had to send in doctor's notes that she's not sick, let her >> come to school, etc. There are no other signs of illness, no fever, >> nose snot, vomiting or diareaha.... only thing she has been saying >> lately is her tummy hurts, but she's pointing to the area below her >> ribs, where you get really sore muscles from coughing a lot! >> >> This last bout has lasted a long time.... she had a cold around >> Thanksgiving, and has coughed on and off since then. It was getting >> better, but after her week at camp, it's really bad. We happened to be >> at a new encodrinologist yesterday, and I said " hey, check out her >> lungs " and she said " you bet, she sounds bad " and then after extensive >> listening, before, during, after coughing, she said the exact same thing >> that 3 different pediatrians have said over they years... " her lungs are >> totally clear.... it sounds higher, like in her throat. " >> >> I've been told to give her Benadryl (to dry it up), Sudafed (to loosen >> up the suspected post-nasal drip), OTC cough medicines, etc. Obviously, >> she can't go to school with Benadryl or cough meds (she falls asleep) >> and it doesn't seem like a good long term solution.... she'd be taking >> this stuff virtually all the time. Any suggestions or advice would be >> helpful.... she's tired, I'm tired (because we all know mom's can't >> sleep well when kids make noises at night!). >> >> Thanks, >> , mom to (14), (12 DS), and Sammy (10) >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Wow... I am so glad to hear this!  I agree, you needed someone who was going to hear you and take it seriously.  Keep us informed!  Kiersten  And GOOD JOB MOM!!! From: Kerrigan <leslie-kerrigan@...> Subject: Re: cough Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 8:59 PM  Thank you everyone for you great suggestions and personal experiences with chronic coughing. I tried to get our pediatrician to give her a little Rx cough medicine so that she could sleep at night, but she refused, and after my phone badgering via the triage nurse, offered to call in an antibiotic (which ticked me off big time... she's not sick and I'm so opposed to overuse of antibiotics. ) So #1 was to get rid of this pediatrician. .. this was the last straw.... there must be better.... I could understand if we hadn't seen her recently, or if she hadn't been examined by another doctor that day to say she was well, and her lungs were clear, but she wouldn't even talk about it. The coughing has been getting worse daily now, and in part, I think because she's coughing so much, so just can't stop. The really great triage nurse who I spoke with several times on Wednesday (while relaying the ex-pediatrician' s lame replies to me) made us a morning appt for Thursday with new Ped. The new Ped listened to my extensive history, asked good questions, and examined . She respected my desire to figure out what was going on, although she didn't hear anything in her lungs, asked if I minded if we did a chest X-ray anyway, just in case (which was clear.) She referred to an Allergist (she was surprised to hear that this had not been done before by the now ex-Ped) and said that they'd look for allergies and asthma (she also mentioned the " coughing only " asthma), and then said that because they deal with the " chronic coughers " first, that they were also very good at diagnosing GERD and/or making the appropriate referral. She agreed that was getting very wiped out, and gave her the Rx cough med for nighttime... she slept last night with only a couple bouts of coughing... much improved. But, since everyone agreed that this " throaty " cough is mucus that could be coughed up, I tried giving her LOTS of fluids to try and thin the secretions, and Mucinex (at new Ped's recommendation. ) So, that's probably why the coughing was worse today, but maybe more productive. We also discussed the possibility of a sinus infection (since that's the only thing that might still be infected.... her lungs, throat, and ears are fine, LOL) and she gave my a Rx for an an antibiotic if I saw signs of a sinus infection and wanted to fill it, so I didn't have to come back just for that. So, Allergist on Feb 11th (not too bad a wait... I was expecting worse), and then if they don't find an allergy and/or asthma, we'll move towards the GERD angle. I've been doing a lot of allergy thinking since she made the referral, and am kind of kicking myself... was VERY allergic to milk, from the first sip of formula at about 4 months, until she was about 3 (when Grandma accidentally gave her a spoonful of ice cream, LOL.) She would vomit violently for hours from the tiniest amount of milk product. But, nothing happened at age 3 with the accidental ice cream, so we slowly tried various milk product and no more vomiting... she seemed fine. Now I'm wondering if the allergy was still there, she just is showing it differently? Thanks again for all the advice... I'm keeping it all together for my trip to the allergist! , mom to (14), (12 DS), and Sammy (10) >> Anyone else's child have a cough most of the time? When gets >> a cold, she continues to cough for a long time after the cold is gone. >> It sounds deep and horrible, but when I take her in, they listen and say >> " her lungs are totally clear. " Apparently, the hacking cough is coming >> more from her throat. We've tried a lot of things, but nothing works >> very well, and she just gets exhausted from coughing bouts. Over the >> years I've had to send in doctor's notes that she's not sick, let her >> come to school, etc. There are no other signs of illness, no fever, >> nose snot, vomiting or diareaha.... only thing she has been saying >> lately is her tummy hurts, but she's pointing to the area below her >> ribs, where you get really sore muscles from coughing a lot! >> >> This last bout has lasted a long time.... she had a cold around >> Thanksgiving, and has coughed on and off since then. It was getting >> better, but after her week at camp, it's really bad. We happened to be >> at a new encodrinologist yesterday, and I said " hey, check out her >> lungs " and she said " you bet, she sounds bad " and then after extensive >> listening, before, during, after coughing, she said the exact same thing >> that 3 different pediatrians have said over they years... " her lungs are >> totally clear.... it sounds higher, like in her throat. " >> >> I've been told to give her Benadryl (to dry it up), Sudafed (to loosen >> up the suspected post-nasal drip), OTC cough medicines, etc. Obviously, >> she can't go to school with Benadryl or cough meds (she falls asleep) >> and it doesn't seem like a good long term solution.... she'd be taking >> this stuff virtually all the time. Any suggestions or advice would be >> helpful.... she's tired, I'm tired (because we all know mom's can't >> sleep well when kids make noises at night!). >> >> Thanks, >> , mom to (14), (12 DS), and Sammy (10) >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 I am so proud of my 14 year old ninth grader I just had to share.? In his biology class they are talking about chromosomes and how they work.? Each group (they have been broken into groups) gets instructions to do this project and ultimately end up with the chromosomes messed up and have to go to the book to figure out what is wrong.? Well my son Caleb's group and the group next to his ended up with Down Syndrome.? Right away the kids started using the big R word and laughing.? The word does not normally bother me because kids use that word not even thinking of the meaning behind it...it is just another word to them.? Anyway they were calling each other retarded and stupid.? My son spoke up and said " cut it out you don't even know what you are saying " ? When they all shut up and looked at him he said " do you guys even no what retarded means?? It means to slow down.? SO if you said the man that jumped out of the airplane used his parachute to retard his fall...THEN you would be using the workd correctly.? It does NOT mean you are stupid.? My brother has Down Syndrome and he learns at a slower rate then other people but he is not STUPID by any means. " ? Two of the girls said " are you offended that we said that? " ? " Caleb said? " Yes I am " ?? They apologized and the other kids kind of slunk down in their seats and shut up.? I told him I was so very proud of him for sticking up for his brother when he didn't have to.? A HUGE thing for a 14 year old to do in his first year of High School.? I can guarantee you that those 8-10 kids involved yesterday will not be so quick next time to say something Stupid...Yes that's right...Stupid....the correct meaning of the word.? Just had to share lol! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 What a great moment for you and for Caleb!  I am proud of him, too!!!!!  Very cool, young man!  Kiersten From: Loree5@... <Loree5@...> Subject: Re: cough leslie-kerrigan@..., Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 8:38 AM  I am so proud of my 14 year old ninth grader I just had to share.? In his biology class they are talking about chromosomes and how they work.? Each group (they have been broken into groups) gets instructions to do this project and ultimately end up with the chromosomes messed up and have to go to the book to figure out what is wrong.? Well my son Caleb's group and the group next to his ended up with Down Syndrome.? Right away the kids started using the big R word and laughing.? The word does not normally bother me because kids use that word not even thinking of the meaning behind it...it is just another word to them.? Anyway they were calling each other retarded and stupid.? My son spoke up and said " cut it out you don't even know what you are saying " ? When they all shut up and looked at him he said " do you guys even no what retarded means?? It means to slow down.? SO if you said the man that jumped out of the airplane used his parachute to retard his fall...THEN you would be using the workd correctly.? It does NOT mean you are stupid.? My brother has Down Syndrome and he learns at a slower rate then other people but he is not STUPID by any means. " ? Two of the girls said " are you offended that we said that? " ? " Caleb said? " Yes I am " ?? They apologized and the other kids kind of slunk down in their seats and shut up.? I told him I was so very proud of him for sticking up for his brother when he didn't have to.? A HUGE thing for a 14 year old to do in his first year of High School.? I can guarantee you that those 8-10 kids involved yesterday will not be so quick next time to say something Stupid...Yes that's right...Stupid. ...the correct meaning of the word.? Just had to share lol! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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