Guest guest Posted May 12, 2000 Report Share Posted May 12, 2000 Just watched the Cheney video from Dallas/Ft. worth CFS support group [thanks Carol]. In it Dr. Cheney mentioned that many treatments MOBILIZE toxins and if too much can hurt some patients. Thus some [a few] CAN NOT DETOX by normal methods [including whey] because they are unable to eliminate the toxins in their systems fast enough and do NOT want too much toxins running around free in their systems causing damage. An interesting point that I heard about a little while ago is that 1 cup of loosely cut coliander [sp?] a day is a natural heavy metal chelator - the only potent one know to date. Have also heard it doesn't taste the best by itself - or so my 2nd oldest sister said - no personal experience. in ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2000 Report Share Posted May 13, 2000 , It's coriander, better known as " cilantro " in the supermarket. I get a chiropractor's newsletter, " Alternatives " , by , D.O., which states the same. I just eat it straight, myself. Brown wrote: > Just watched the Cheney video from Dallas/Ft. worth CFS support > group [thanks Carol]. In it Dr. Cheney mentioned that many > treatments MOBILIZE toxins and if too much can hurt some > patients. Thus some [a few] CAN NOT DETOX by normal methods > [including whey] because they are unable to eliminate the toxins > in their systems fast enough and do NOT want too much toxins > running around free in their systems causing damage. > An interesting point that I heard about a little while ago is > that 1 cup of loosely cut coliander [sp?] a day is a natural > heavy metal chelator - the only potent one know to date. Have > also heard it doesn't taste the best by itself - or so my 2nd > oldest sister said - no personal experience. in ON > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 72% off on Name brand Watches! > Come and buy today and get free shipping! > 1/4011/4/_/531724/_/958178158/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2000 Report Share Posted May 13, 2000 So if I eat cilantro, a cup a day, is it a good idea to take the whey supplement or does cilantro replace the need for other detox methods? Barb << It's coriander, better known as " cilantro " in the supermarket. I get a chiropractor's newsletter, " Alternatives " , by , D.O., which states the same. I just eat it straight, myself. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2000 Report Share Posted May 13, 2000 Kathleen wrote: > , > It's coriander, better known as " cilantro " in the > supermarket. I get a chiropractor's newsletter, " Alternatives " , by > , D.O., which states the same. I just eat it straight, > myself. That's interesting. My chiropractor/NAET guy gave me a bottle of cilantro concentrate or extract, and has me take a dropperful in a little water several times a day when I am feeling " toxic " . > Brown wrote: > > > An interesting point that I heard about a little while ago is > > that 1 cup of loosely cut coliander [sp?] a day is a natural > > heavy metal chelator - the only potent one know to date. Have > > also heard it doesn't taste the best by itself - or so my 2nd > > oldest sister said - no personal experience. Cilantro is one of those things that you either love or hate. I adore it - to me, salsa doesn't taste right unless it has a cup of chopped coriander in it! (If I wanted to eat it straight, I'd make a cross between a mild salsa and a gazpacho, i.e. mix chopped coriander with chopped tomato, onion, cucumber, garlic, and a dash of Tabasco.) -- el - andrea@... (IFF " FNORD " appears - remove it from my email address to reply) " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 I will also throw this in about apple cider vinegar and honey. I mixed it 50-50, then diluted about 1/2 cup into a 2 liter bottle of water. I went on a '40' day fast, using ONLY this mixture. Lots of this water mixture. At about 28 -30 days, I forgot my mix, when on an all day trip to NY. On the way home, about 10 hours after using the mix, (that is a long time) I started to get woozy, while driving home. I actually 'felt' my brain going 'gray'. That's the only way I can descrobe it. I felt the life going out of my brain!!! I had about an hour to get home, I had to decide whether to stop for anything, and did get a coke. It helped some. When getting home, I drank my mixture with a stronger portion of mix. It took me about 5 hours to get back to normal! I will swear by this process! I had energy! I felt great! I believe you CAN live off this. I did for 40 days. When beginning to eat again, I 'felt' the perservatives, and toxins going into my system, and it was repulsive. Rose I DO intend to do this again, and this time, I will better watch what I intake afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 I don't think that South Beach is really a TRUE detox in the sense that you fast. You abstain from many, many carbs and you are allowed 75 calories of a sugar-free treat per day. I won't eat any breads, pastas or fruit, juice or anything like that for the next 11 days. I do drink alot of water and this really works for me so that's why I am doing it. I don't recommend it to anyone. I only advocate the EFL or BFL to people. This is only a temporary " detox " . Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 >>does anyone know if detox actually works... > > What kind of detox are you asking about - drugs, alcohol, sugar ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 > > >>does anyone know if detox actually works... > > > > > > What kind of detox are you asking about - drugs, alcohol, sugar ?? just the toxins of everyday life...i don't do drugs and very rarely drink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 >just the toxins of everyday life...i don't do drugs and very rarely drink I don't remember anyone here going through any kind of cleansing routine before starting a healthy food & exercise plan, but I know on other lists, mostly the vegetarian ones, many have used this stuff called Colon Cleanse and then went of a fruit and vegetable juice fast for a week or so before diving into their vegan diets anew. Just remember that water is your friend. Drink a half ounce per pound of body weight, so if you weigh 220, drink 110 ounces of water, broth, juice, etc. (but no artificially sweetened or caffeinated beverages) every day to keep your system clean, to flush those toxins out every day. Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 If you are referring to a healing crisis followed by an improvement, the medical term for it is the Jarisch-Herxheimer Effect. You can read about it here: http://lassesen.com/cfids/herxheimer.htm and http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Arthritis/Herxheimer_Effect.htm The term has been expanded to other areas. Hope that helps, detox > Detox seems to be the domain of so called " alternative therapies " . > As far as I know detoxification only gets mentioned in Medicine > when referring to the period when a substance of addiction is > withdrawn from use in a manner safe, avoiding the sinister side effects > that may occur outside of the medical environment. > > Are there reputable studies supporting the notion of " detox " in the > manner fequently mentioned here? > > Colonic irrigation is another " therapy " of detox that is considered > suspect > in medicine. I have wondering how my Pepsi Max would affect me if > taken colonically. > > stay well, Trevor > www.kombuchaustralia.com Now with an email order form - that took a week > to get working! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Detox is well explained and forms a bases for Homotoxicology. A sub-sect of homeopathy developed by Dr Reckeweg M.D. 1920's This particular form of homeopathy I study and use because it follows very similarly to Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) in both the diagnosis and prognosis of disorders through a series of classification referred to in both disciplines as the Six Phrases of Diseases. Detox is not always viewed, actually seldom viewed, simply as a Herxheimer Effect (western medical term) which is most often referred to when the body is actively expelling pathogens. Homotoxicology [Homo=human, toxic=poisons) refers to the disorders created by the body's storage to and reaction of toxins in the body and Detoxification is the process whereby those toxins are removed. Since I am of the " alternative therapies " type and you are of the " medicine " [sic] type I refer you to them where you may indeed find " reputable studies supporting the notion of " detox " in precise western science term logy. see www.heelinc.com and look under " Homotoxicology and Detoxification " Colonic irrigation is another aspect of TCM where one branch called the " purging school " often debates with the " Strengthen the Spleen and Stomach School " . I mention this as the developer of the Six Phrases of Disease (TCM) in the Shang Han Lun, (Theory of Cold Induced Diseases) some 2,500 years ago wrote then of the dire affects of over-use of purges (colonics). Homotoxicology may peak your interest as it is very well versed in western science and practiced by maintain MD's yet still an alternative approach. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. detox Detox seems to be the domain of so called " alternative therapies " . As far as I know detoxification only gets mentioned in Medicine when referring to the period when a substance of addiction is withdrawn from use in a manner safe, avoiding the sinister side effects that may occur outside of the medical environment. Are there reputable studies supporting the notion of " detox " in the manner fequently mentioned here? Colonic irrigation is another " therapy " of detox that is considered suspect in medicine. I have wondering how my Pepsi Max would affect me if taken colonically. stay well, Trevor www.kombuchaustralia.com Now with an email order form - that took a week to get working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 My test results from 24 hour loading test showed 12,9 on bromide and 96,1 on iodine. I have slowly increased my iodine intake. When i reach 25-50 mg of lodoral I begin to feel really bad and very fatigued. Could this be detox symptoms? Can I detox with 12,5 mg of lodoral. Will it be enough? Thanks Henrik, Denmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Yes, it is detox. No, you won't detox enough at 12.5mg. This is why Lugol's liquid is very useful, is that you can titer your supplement amount more precisely. But you can also cut the Iodoral tablets in quarters in order to get a smaller increase. -- moderator On 30 Jan 2012 at 22:54, truck1810 wrote: > My test results from 24 hour loading test showed 12,9 on bromide and > 96,1 on iodine. I have slowly increased my iodine intake. When i reach > 25-50 mg of lodoral I begin to feel really bad and very fatigued. > Could this be detox symptoms? Can I detox with 12,5 mg of lodoral. > Will it be enough? Thanks Henrik, Denmark. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/ > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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