Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 My comments below in red. Buist, ND HC Son's Lab results These are the last labs for my son, if you please, would like some help understanding them.Hakala Research-Iodine (spot) 0.0435 mg/L, ref. range (.1-0.45mg/L) - His body kept almost all of the iodine he ingested signaling a very high deficiency.Bromide (spot) 2095 mg/L, ref. range (<5mg/L) - Is this really 2,095 mgs? If so then your child is VERY VERY toxic. The highest I have seen is my own at 66 mgs/ L. Are you sure there isn't a decimal missing? Reg. LabTSH (S) 1.29, ref range .30-5.0Free T4 1.1, ref range 07-2.0 - Most feel best mid range - 1.4 so this is lower than optimal.Free T3 1.4, ref range 2.3-4.2 - Most feel best in the upper 1/3 of the range. So around 3.5 - 4.0 I also had the doc run a parathyroid test;PTH; Intact 14.14, ref range 10.00-65.00Note: He is 17, and has been organic/gluten free/preservative free for 15 years, lessening his chance of bromide accumulation, and has never had fluoride, drinking water included (FYI, not one cavity, ever).The only source of bromide is not from bread. As a matter of fact this is not where most get it. The majority of the people toxic in bromide have been exposed through electronic equipment (TVs, Phones, etc), carpeting, automobiles, mattresses - anything that has a flame retardant in it. So when people think the exposure is low they are mistaken. It is in drinks like gatorade, bug juice and Mt Dew. If you drink any commercially made drinks they are made with city water that probably has fluoride. Couple questions;1. Is the spot test a decent indicator of bromide levels? Yes they are.2. If so, is there a need to supplement with synthetic iodine/iodide or will sea vegetables do the trick to raise Iodine levels? He is currently getting between 100 and 150 mgs per day from a "safe -heavy metal and other contaminate free verified" sea vegetable arame and a couple drops of Cayce inspired iodine (to say that he is extremely sensitive is an understatement). There is no such thing as "Synthetic" iodine / iodide. The iodine used in Iodoral is mined deep in the ground of Chile. Sea Veggies run a high risk of halide toxicity as well as not offering adequate or measurable amounts of iodine / iodide. If this were my child I would not waste my money on "natural" sea veggie alternatives. Cayce iodine is also a waste of money. Very high in cost and low in mg dosage. You will not force the halides out with that product. 3. Do the thyroid levels look within "normal" range. - No they do not - I commented above.4. Does the parathyroid (PTH) result look OK? Looks kind of low to me but not sure if it is significant. - It is pretty low and with other lab tests when you are that low in the range there is an issue as they make the range using several people that may be considered "normal" but the criteria for this label is often off.5. I would like to recheck his iodine levels, question is - how long after supplementation began do I check? - Dr Abraham recommends 6 mos - 1 year after supplementing with at least 50 mgs of Iodoral / day. Thanks in advance,Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 , You are correct, there is a decimal missing. The correct amount for Bromide is; 2.95 mg/L (ref range ,5mg/L). He has never had a carbonated beverage, gatoraid, etc. all commercial drinks are off limits in this household as well as any processed foods of any type. He drinks only water, either well or filtered. No new furniture or carpet, ever, hand me downs and used cars, thinking it's a blessing at this point in the game. I'm thinking his levels are OK then. Really just wanted to ascertain if the spot test is an accurate gauge. Thanks for the verification on the TSH and PTH, I felt they were low as well. Also, if we are not concerned with halides, wondering if the seaweed is enough to raise his iodine levels to normal. Again, he is getting 100-130 mg per day of iodine through sea vegetables which he loves. He the equivalent of 50 dry grams per day or about 6-8 cups re-hydrated. Is there another reason to supplement with Iodoral that I'm missing? Though after reading your other notes regarding source in this post, I'm inclined to start him on it if he can tolerate. His sister and I both tolerate it well and are seeing great benefits. Thrilled to learn that the source of the iodine comes from dirt, that I have not read anywhere. Will start him on it, I'm all into dirt. Have another question though, if he has high mercury levels, how will the increase in iodine effect them? I've read that it helps rid the body of it, but is it the same mechanism as say bromide detox? Thanks again. Page > > My comments below in red. > > Buist, ND HC > > > Son's Lab results > > > > These are the last labs for my son, if you please, would like some help understanding them. > > Hakala Research- > Iodine (spot) 0.0435 mg/L, ref. range (.1-0.45mg/L) - His body kept almost all of the iodine he ingested signaling a very high deficiency. > Bromide (spot) 2095 mg/L, ref. range (<5mg/L) - Is this really 2,095 mgs? If so then your child is VERY VERY toxic. The highest I have seen is my own at 66 mgs/ L. Are you sure there isn't a decimal missing? > > > Reg. Lab > TSH (S) 1.29, ref range .30-5.0 > Free T4 1.1, ref range 07-2.0 - Most feel best mid range - 1.4 so this is lower than optimal. > Free T3 1.4, ref range 2.3-4.2 - Most feel best in the upper 1/3 of the range. So around 3.5 - 4.0 > > > I also had the doc run a parathyroid test; > > PTH; Intact 14.14, ref range 10.00-65.00 > > Note: He is 17, and has been organic/gluten free/preservative free for 15 years, lessening his chance of bromide accumulation, and has never had fluoride, drinking water included (FYI, not one cavity, ever). > The only source of bromide is not from bread. As a matter of fact this is not where most get it. The majority of the people toxic in bromide have been exposed through electronic equipment (TVs, Phones, etc), carpeting, automobiles, mattresses - anything that has a flame retardant in it. So when people think the exposure is low they are mistaken. It is in drinks like gatorade, bug juice and Mt Dew. If you drink any commercially made drinks they are made with city water that probably has fluoride. > > Couple questions; > 1. Is the spot test a decent indicator of bromide levels? Yes they are. > 2. If so, is there a need to supplement with synthetic iodine/iodide or will sea vegetables do the trick to raise Iodine levels? He is currently getting between 100 and 150 mgs per day from a " safe -heavy metal and other contaminate free verified " sea vegetable arame and a couple drops of Cayce inspired iodine (to say that he is extremely sensitive is an understatement). There is no such thing as " Synthetic " iodine / iodide. The iodine used in Iodoral is mined deep in the ground of Chile. Sea Veggies run a high risk of halide toxicity as well as not offering adequate or measurable amounts of iodine / iodide. If this were my child I would not waste my money on " natural " sea veggie alternatives. Cayce iodine is also a waste of money. Very high in cost and low in mg dosage. You will not force the halides out with that product. > 3. Do the thyroid levels look within " normal " range. - No they do not - I commented above. > 4. Does the parathyroid (PTH) result look OK? Looks kind of low to me but not sure if it is significant. - It is pretty low and with other lab tests when you are that low in the range there is an issue as they make the range using several people that may be considered " normal " but the criteria for this label is often off. > 5. I would like to recheck his iodine levels, question is - how long after supplementation began do I check? - Dr Abraham recommends 6 mos - 1 year after supplementing with at least 50 mgs of Iodoral / day. > > > Thanks in advance, > Page > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Thanks for the info on Chili's iodine production, have bookmarked the page. Regarding timing of sea veggie consumption, he didn't start eating the sea vegetables until we got the iodine test back. It was probably 2-3 weeks after, took me that long to find the iodine content for sea vegetables. When I found it, I just started loading him up with it. As an aside, we were initially just looking for foods with high nutritional value, especially minerals. I found the information on the sea vegetables from a book called Cooking with Sea Vegetables by and Montse Bradford (Amazon.com, cost just a few bucks) There is a chart in the back of the book (Appendix A) that lists 8 different sea vegetables and 14 different nutritional values. The source for the Appendix is the Japan Nutritionist Association food table. Happy to shoot you a copy of the table if you would like. The nutritional content between types of sea veggies (Nori, Kombu, Arame, etc.) varied dramatically, who knew! The highest iodine content is found in Kombu (300 mgs per 100g) and Arame (also 300 mgs per 100 g). No way I could eat that much Kombu, but the Arame is just yummy. BTW, we live in the goiter belt, might account for the low saturation rate. Also have been thinking that it might be mercury that is blocking the saturation or chicken and the egg, low iodine results in increase mercury... Anyway, found one study on line that shows increased urinary excretion of mercury following Iodine supplementation (by mg's of iodine given). Looked pretty dramatic, it was part of a lecture but I didn't see a source for the data, still looking. Also found a similar result in this lecture presented at the Iodine Medical Conference 2007 http://www.scribd.com/doc/1959949/IODINE-Solution-to-Healthproblems but again, no source listed. So looking for source on iodine/mercury detox study and also the mechanism by which the mercury is released. So, thanks again for your help. Page > > > > My comments below in red. > > > > Buist, ND HC > > > > > > Son's Lab results > > > > > > > > These are the last labs for my son, if you please, would like some help understanding them. > > > > Hakala Research- > > Iodine (spot) 0.0435 mg/L, ref. range (.1-0.45mg/L) - His body kept almost all of the iodine he ingested signaling a very high deficiency. > > Bromide (spot) 2095 mg/L, ref. range (<5mg/L) - Is this really 2,095 mgs? If so then your child is VERY VERY toxic. The highest I have seen is my own at 66 mgs/ L. Are you sure there isn't a decimal missing? > > > > > > Reg. Lab > > TSH (S) 1.29, ref range .30-5.0 > > Free T4 1.1, ref range 07-2.0 - Most feel best mid range - 1.4 so this is lower than optimal. > > Free T3 1.4, ref range 2.3-4.2 - Most feel best in the upper 1/3 of the range. So around 3.5 - 4.0 > > > > > > I also had the doc run a parathyroid test; > > > > PTH; Intact 14.14, ref range 10.00-65.00 > > > > Note: He is 17, and has been organic/gluten free/preservative free for 15 years, lessening his chance of bromide accumulation, and has never had fluoride, drinking water included (FYI, not one cavity, ever). > > The only source of bromide is not from bread. As a matter of fact this is not where most get it. The majority of the people toxic in bromide have been exposed through electronic equipment (TVs, Phones, etc), carpeting, automobiles, mattresses - anything that has a flame retardant in it. So when people think the exposure is low they are mistaken. It is in drinks like gatorade, bug juice and Mt Dew. If you drink any commercially made drinks they are made with city water that probably has fluoride. > > > > Couple questions; > > 1. Is the spot test a decent indicator of bromide levels? Yes they are. > > 2. If so, is there a need to supplement with synthetic iodine/iodide or will sea vegetables do the trick to raise Iodine levels? He is currently getting between 100 and 150 mgs per day from a " safe -heavy metal and other contaminate free verified " sea vegetable arame and a couple drops of Cayce inspired iodine (to say that he is extremely sensitive is an understatement). There is no such thing as " Synthetic " iodine / iodide. The iodine used in Iodoral is mined deep in the ground of Chile. Sea Veggies run a high risk of halide toxicity as well as not offering adequate or measurable amounts of iodine / iodide. If this were my child I would not waste my money on " natural " sea veggie alternatives. Cayce iodine is also a waste of money. Very high in cost and low in mg dosage. You will not force the halides out with that product. > > 3. Do the thyroid levels look within " normal " range. - No they do not - I commented above. > > 4. Does the parathyroid (PTH) result look OK? Looks kind of low to me but not sure if it is significant. - It is pretty low and with other lab tests when you are that low in the range there is an issue as they make the range using several people that may be considered " normal " but the criteria for this label is often off. > > 5. I would like to recheck his iodine levels, question is - how long after supplementation began do I check? - Dr Abraham recommends 6 mos - 1 year after supplementing with at least 50 mgs of Iodoral / day. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Page > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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