Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hi Bonnie ~ I am not taking Lugol’s. I am about to order Iodine from Amway. But my decision to eat more and more bananas and then to take a couple of potassium tablets was really stupid on my part. I was just getting weaker and weaker and unfortunately the first thing I thought of was how the potassium helped me last summer. But of course then I was sweating away my electrolytes, etc., and potassium was what I needed. It was sure NOT what I needed last month. So, I am getting back to normal and feeling better. I am still eating bananas but not the way I was! ;-) Thank goodness we have this forum where we can help one another. DodyColorado From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Bonnie ColeSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:46 AMiodine Subject: RE: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited+Dody Hi Dody: Thanks so much for this information. I too eat Bananas everyday but didn’t think that would be a problem when I have Malabsorption and never know what is being absorbed. I was just going to buy some Potassium. My question is – aren’t we getting a fair bit of Potassium with the Potassium Iodide in the Lugol’s? Please let me know. Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Dorothy VerSluisSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:12 PMiodine Subject: RE: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited I was recently having leg edema again, and found that part of my problem was too much Potassium! I have been having more and more trouble with shortness of breath lately, even though I am on oxygen 24/7. I was thinking I needed more potassium and was eating more and more bananas. Finally I realized I was getting too much Potassium! If Potassium is too high or too low, it can be dangerous for the heart. Also, you might want to read about Chromium. Online info reveals that while we don’t need much Chromium, it is crucial. We certainly are a complex puzzle! Finding the right recipe for each of us is a real challenge. It’s a good thing we have one another on this forum. Docs are just about useless. DodyColorado From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of baxroxSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:58 AMiodine Subject: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited Bonnie,When I read your first inquiry awhile back my thoughts went to a question of electrolyte balance. People low on potassium (or significantly out of balance in comparison to the other electrolytes) may have edema.If I recall your earlier post mentioned also struggling with high blood pressure ... when I think of high blood pressure I do not think of unrefined sea salt being the cause, I think of either a lack of potassium or magnesium - or both. Low magnesium is somewhat easier to narrow down symptomatically. To get a true lab result obtain either an intracellular test by IntraCellular Diagnostics or a Red Blood Cell because serum levels are not accurate for measurement. Generally if the serum levels of magnesium are out of whack things have progressed to a critical place.Because each person has individual challenges one could not say for example " I " m taking 400 mg of magnesium per day " and think that would be enough. For some that is enough but for others up to 1200 mg per day may be their best dose. The type of magnesium being used also needs to be taken into consideration. You have been a long time list member and have most likely absorbed a lot of information about magnesium. Potassium is not discussed as much because it is not officially part of the iodine protocol as an additional supplement, but it is present in potassium iodide which is in both Lugol's and Iodoral.Cortisol has a big influence on potassium. I have read " low cortisol retains potassium & wastes sodium, high cortisol wastes potassium & retains sodium " . So adrenals are playing a role in this scenario but there are other things that affect potassium such as kidney function, and there are other things such as chronic venous disease that cause edema in the lower legs. There is also a connection between progesterone and potassium.In regards to potassium supplementation I am keen on potassium bicarbonate as a source if supplementation is needed, though others find potassium chloride beneficial. Again, it depends on the individuals situation.If it were me I would be looking at electrolyte balance and other causes of low leg edema and high blood pressure and not be as concerned about the consumption of unrefined sea salt, unless it is out of proportion to the other electrolytes.Here are articles that may be of interest to you: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/water3.php and http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/articles/1998-v13n04-p215.shtml--- In iodine , " Bonnie Cole " <bonnieview@...> wrote:>> Hello:> I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my lower> leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am> again.> This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on my> swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .> I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?> Any advise out there?> Thanks,> > Bonniesize=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4823 - Release Date: 02/21/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Dody: Thank you so much, at this time of year, I will cut back to one banana a day. Thanks a lot, Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Dorothy VerSluis Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:55 PM iodine Subject: RE: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited+Dody Hi Bonnie ~ I am not taking Lugol’s. I am about to order Iodine from Amway. But my decision to eat more and more bananas and then to take a couple of potassium tablets was really stupid on my part. I was just getting weaker and weaker and unfortunately the first thing I thought of was how the potassium helped me last summer. But of course then I was sweating away my electrolytes, etc., and potassium was what I needed. It was sure NOT what I needed last month. So, I am getting back to normal and feeling better. I am still eating bananas but not the way I was! ;-) Thank goodness we have this forum where we can help one another. Dody Colorado From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Bonnie Cole Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:46 AM iodine Subject: RE: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited+Dody Hi Dody: Thanks so much for this information. I too eat Bananas everyday but didn’t think that would be a problem when I have Malabsorption and never know what is being absorbed. I was just going to buy some Potassium. My question is – aren’t we getting a fair bit of Potassium with the Potassium Iodide in the Lugol’s? Please let me know. Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Dorothy VerSluis Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:12 PM iodine Subject: RE: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited I was recently having leg edema again, and found that part of my problem was too much Potassium! I have been having more and more trouble with shortness of breath lately, even though I am on oxygen 24/7. I was thinking I needed more potassium and was eating more and more bananas. Finally I realized I was getting too much Potassium! If Potassium is too high or too low, it can be dangerous for the heart. Also, you might want to read about Chromium. Online info reveals that while we don’t need much Chromium, it is crucial. We certainly are a complex puzzle! Finding the right recipe for each of us is a real challenge. It’s a good thing we have one another on this forum. Docs are just about useless. Dody Colorado From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of baxrox Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:58 AM iodine Subject: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited Bonnie, When I read your first inquiry awhile back my thoughts went to a question of electrolyte balance. People low on potassium (or significantly out of balance in comparison to the other electrolytes) may have edema. If I recall your earlier post mentioned also struggling with high blood pressure ... when I think of high blood pressure I do not think of unrefined sea salt being the cause, I think of either a lack of potassium or magnesium - or both. Low magnesium is somewhat easier to narrow down symptomatically. To get a true lab result obtain either an intracellular test by IntraCellular Diagnostics or a Red Blood Cell because serum levels are not accurate for measurement. Generally if the serum levels of magnesium are out of whack things have progressed to a critical place. Because each person has individual challenges one could not say for example " I " m taking 400 mg of magnesium per day " and think that would be enough. For some that is enough but for others up to 1200 mg per day may be their best dose. The type of magnesium being used also needs to be taken into consideration. You have been a long time list member and have most likely absorbed a lot of information about magnesium. Potassium is not discussed as much because it is not officially part of the iodine protocol as an additional supplement, but it is present in potassium iodide which is in both Lugol's and Iodoral. Cortisol has a big influence on potassium. I have read " low cortisol retains potassium & wastes sodium, high cortisol wastes potassium & retains sodium " . So adrenals are playing a role in this scenario but there are other things that affect potassium such as kidney function, and there are other things such as chronic venous disease that cause edema in the lower legs. There is also a connection between progesterone and potassium. In regards to potassium supplementation I am keen on potassium bicarbonate as a source if supplementation is needed, though others find potassium chloride beneficial. Again, it depends on the individuals situation. If it were me I would be looking at electrolyte balance and other causes of low leg edema and high blood pressure and not be as concerned about the consumption of unrefined sea salt, unless it is out of proportion to the other electrolytes. Here are articles that may be of interest to you: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/water3.php and http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/articles/1998-v13n04-p215.shtml > > Hello: > I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my lower > leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am > again. > This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on my > swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " . > I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT? > Any advise out there? > Thanks, > > Bonnie size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> No virus found in this message. 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