Re: Iodine, Hypo and high Reverse T3

[Guest guest]

Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with 's

protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a liver

issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the problem.

Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure Prescriptions

have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr. Schulze's products

are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't like the taste,

however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

Linn

Moderator

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> I would like and the other mod's input on this subject. I have

researched this hours online, different groups, many websites, talked to doctors

and more.

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> If numbers are Low normal T3, mid to low normal T4, Extremely high RT3 (380,

should be 150ish). Hashimotos antibody of 7. (all this previously posted on

other post)

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> I am on 50mg iodoral and experiencing detox symptoms. My other post shows my

labs from hakala labs.

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> Appears my body is producing plenty of Thyroid hormone, its just converting

more to RT3 then to T3.

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> 1) RT3 Thyroid group says using body temperature use T3 Cytomel and go through

a 12 week " reboot " . I don't think this is a good solution. I cant find alot of

users on the forum who have success with this protocol and it is very hard on

the body

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> 2) s Protocol: Similar to above, but using time released. Once again,

not alot of success I have seen.

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> 3) Using 5mcg T3 2-3 times per day while doing things to lower stress level,

detox etc. This is what I am doing now, but my stress level is very high and my

responsibilities are high.

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> 4) Armour/Nature dessicated thyroid - but this will feed the RT3?? Not

reommended from most of what I have read.

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> 5) Alot of websites say stay away from Iodine (about.thyroid.com) if you have

hashi's etc. I have read the PDF with this forum as well as Dr Brownsteins book.

I tend to agree with this forum and Dr B. and I have been on Iodine for almost a

year (only on high dose for a few months).

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> 6) Using no T3 or Armour, just doing the Iodine protocol and Detox the bromine

out of the system to get below 5 on lab results.

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> Out of those 6, and a current post PTSD health state, on my way up, adrenals

are mostly healed but cortisol is most likely low.... What would you guys

recommend?

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> Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

P.S. - Juicing is wonderful for liver issues. Dr. Cabot's website has

lots of info on juicing combinations and healing problems. www.liverdoctor.com

Linn

Moderator

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> > I would like and the other mod's input on this subject. I have

researched this hours online, different groups, many websites, talked to doctors

and more.

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> > If numbers are Low normal T3, mid to low normal T4, Extremely high RT3 (380,

should be 150ish). Hashimotos antibody of 7. (all this previously posted on

other post)

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> > I am on 50mg iodoral and experiencing detox symptoms. My other post shows my

labs from hakala labs.

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> > Appears my body is producing plenty of Thyroid hormone, its just converting

more to RT3 then to T3.

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> > 1) RT3 Thyroid group says using body temperature use T3 Cytomel and go

through a 12 week " reboot " . I don't think this is a good solution. I cant find

alot of users on the forum who have success with this protocol and it is very

hard on the body

> >

> > 2) s Protocol: Similar to above, but using time released. Once again,

not alot of success I have seen.

> >

> > 3) Using 5mcg T3 2-3 times per day while doing things to lower stress level,

detox etc. This is what I am doing now, but my stress level is very high and my

responsibilities are high.

> >

> > 4) Armour/Nature dessicated thyroid - but this will feed the RT3?? Not

reommended from most of what I have read.

> >

> > 5) Alot of websites say stay away from Iodine (about.thyroid.com) if you

have hashi's etc. I have read the PDF with this forum as well as Dr Brownsteins

book. I tend to agree with this forum and Dr B. and I have been on Iodine for

almost a year (only on high dose for a few months).

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> > 6) Using no T3 or Armour, just doing the Iodine protocol and Detox the

bromine out of the system to get below 5 on lab results.

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> > Out of those 6, and a current post PTSD health state, on my way up, adrenals

are mostly healed but cortisol is most likely low.... What would you guys

recommend?

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> > Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I've used her products in the past and they work well.

Linn

Moderator

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> > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

I have a juicer and can reasonably juice once/day

I dont see any " recipes " on her website, it seems they are probably only in her

book?

The TLC product looks expensive, but if its going to do the trick im all for it.

I did do 2 rounds of metagenics Advaclear a year ago, with no success...

I can also implement coffee enemas. I have done those years ago and started last

weekend did 1, and will do a series of 8-12 over the next 2 months so I want to

make sure I am detoxing properly and doing all I can before summer comes.

Just curious: do any of you have 2 or 3 juiceing recipes from the liverdoctor

that you could share?

thanks

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> > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

Liver cleansing juice:

2 Dandelion leaves or 2 spinacj leaves or large cabbage leaves

1/2 cup Broccoli flowerlets

1 cup Cauliflower flowerlets or 2 large Broussels sprouts

1 clove garlic or 1 small radish (optimal)

1/2 cup Chopped Parlsley

1 whole red apple

Wash, trim and chop & process juice. High in Vit C and sulpher compounds to

clean the liver. It's a strong mixture and can be diluted 1 part juice to 1

part water or you can dilute it with herb or fruit flavored tea. Drink 17 to 35

oz. daily. You can sweeten this juice by adding 1 or 2 of the following,

strawberries. grapes, carrot or beetjuice. (If you mix grapes and carrots

together, it may cause flatulence.

Liver Tonic Juice:

1 Carrot

4 1/2 oz. fresh asparagus

4 1/2 ox. cucumber (leave skin on)

1 apple

2 dandelion or cabbage leaves

Wash, trim and chop all ingredients and process juice. Drink 2 to 2 small cups

daily.

Dr. Cabot's book " Raw Juices Can Save Your Life " has a ton of excellent recipes

and health info, definitely worth purchasing. All kinds of health conditions

covered with specific recipes to address each condition.

Linn

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> > > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

Juice is best consumed within 30 minutes, otherwise it will start to oxidize.

Unless you're lucky enough to own a Norwalk juicer, with a Norwalk you can

prepare juice for several days worth.

Linn

Moderator

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> > > > > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

Won't work for juicing, but you could make smoothies. A juicer will give you a

lot more of the nutrients and eliminate the fiber.

Linn

Moderator

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with 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3

is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve

the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

Yeah I believe my supplemnets are at an optimal level. However I just added Zinc

about 2 weeks ago. I am surprised you mentioned it being important with RT3 and

that is hopeful.

My iron was good on my last lab. Cortisol lab I will know in a couple weeks. I

think its low due to stress and not optimal medicated sleep.

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> > 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3

> > is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should

> > solve the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost

> > or Pure Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure

> > Zen). Dr. Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some

> > folks don't like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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Linn

thanks for the detailed message!

This is great, other then one major concern:

A few of those things are RESTRICTED in Hypothyroid patients: Broccoli, brussel

sprouts, etc as per what I have read in good documentation they are goiteragents

??

The 2nd recipe however looks like it fits the bill

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> > > > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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So it might be worth the 3 week run at it even if im juicing? I will order it.

Do I STOP anything else I am taking? (cofactors, selium, vit c, celtic salt, etc

etc)... or adjust their dosages?

Should I stop the standalone Milk thistle supplement I am taking?

Thanks

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> > > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

Question: Metabolicly, is T3 converted to RT3 in the body because of various

factors (example stress)... And so that conversion happens in the liver?

And then the RT3 is floating around in the blood entering cells where T3 should

be??

Just curious why/how RT3 is made and why there is no medical treatment for it.

Thanks

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> > > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

Not something I would worry about for those supplementing iodine.

Linn

Moderator

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with 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3

is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve

the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

I would back off the milk thistle if you add in TLC. Other items should be

fine.

Linn

Moderator

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> > > > Over the last 6+ years on this group, I've yet to see anyone heal with

's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3 is a

liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve the

problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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Im also taking the following supplements as per the book " Prescriptions for

Nature Cures "

L-Arganine : Libido and energy. 1000mg x 2 daily

L-Tyrosine : Hypothyroid 500mg x 2 daily

Ashwanda : 2x daily

Guggal (Commiphora Mukul) : 2 x daily 25 mg. (Not sure exactly what this does)

Since I have low T3 but extremely high T3, I am wondering if supplementing

Tyrosine and Guggal will stimulate T4 (thyroid hormone) thereby stimulating more

Reverse T3

So I am wondering, are these supplements counter-productive for one with

HypoThyroid and extremely High RT3?

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with 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only method. RT3

is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you should solve

the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH (Vitacost or Pure

Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure Zen). Dr.

Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some folks don't

like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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[Guest guest]

Meant to say " since i have low T3 but extremely high RT3.... "

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heal with 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only

method. RT3 is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you

should solve the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH

(Vitacost or Pure Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure

Zen). Dr. Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some

folks don't like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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Shauna

What is the best source of these carbs?

Simple? Complex? Fruits & Vegs? Any carbs?

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> > heal with 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only

> > method. RT3 is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and

> > you should solve the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH

> > (Vitacost or Pure Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support

> > (Pure Zen). Dr. Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures

> > and some folks don't like the taste, however, they work wonders.

> > www.herbdoc.com

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I know there's a contraindication with guggal and statins, but other than that,

just keep an eye on thyroid labs.

I wouldn't think the amino acids would cause issues for hypos, only if you were

hyperthyroid, then tyrosine might cause an issue.

Linn

Moderator

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heal with 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only

method. RT3 is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you

should solve the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH

(Vitacost or Pure Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure

Zen). Dr. Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some

folks don't like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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Great thanks!

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> > > > method. RT3 is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver

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> > > > you should solve the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra

> > Clear PH

> > > > (Vitacost or Pure Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver

> > Support

> > > > (Pure Zen). Dr. Schulze's products are excellent also, but are

> > tinctures

> > > > and some folks don't like the taste, however, they work wonders.

> > > > www.herbdoc.com

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Thanks Linn

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heal with 's protocol, we've also had many here fail on the T3 only

method. RT3 is a liver issue, work on detoxing and healing the liver and you

should solve the problem. Specific items like Metagenics Ultra Clear PH

(Vitacost or Pure Prescriptions have the best prices) or TLC Liver Support (Pure

Zen). Dr. Schulze's products are excellent also, but are tinctures and some

folks don't like the taste, however, they work wonders. www.herbdoc.com

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