Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited

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Bonnie,

Have you had recent thyroid labs?

Linn

Moderator

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> Hello:

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> I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my lower

> leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am

> again.

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> This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on my

> swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .

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> I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?

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> Any advise out there?

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> Thanks,

>

> Bonnie

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My ankles swell from regular salt. Celtic sea salt doesn't make them swell. That

tells me to reduce my use of regular salt as much as I can. Since DH doesn't use

Celtic sea salt, I do the best I can. (I am the cook mostly.)

Carol

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Bonnie,

When I read your first inquiry awhile back my thoughts went to a question of

electrolyte balance. People low on potassium (or significantly out of balance

in comparison to the other electrolytes) may have edema.

If I recall your earlier post mentioned also struggling with high blood pressure

.... when I think of high blood pressure I do not think of unrefined sea salt

being the cause, I think of either a lack of potassium or magnesium - or both.

Low magnesium is somewhat easier to narrow down symptomatically.

To get a true lab result obtain either an intracellular test by IntraCellular

Diagnostics or a Red Blood Cell because serum levels are not accurate for

measurement. Generally if the serum levels of magnesium are out of whack things

have progressed to a critical place.

Because each person has individual challenges one could not say for example " I " m

taking 400 mg of magnesium per day " and think that would be enough. For some

that is enough but for others up to 1200 mg per day may be their best dose. The

type of magnesium being used also needs to be taken into consideration. You

have been a long time list member and have most likely absorbed a lot of

information about magnesium.

Potassium is not discussed as much because it is not officially part of the

iodine protocol as an additional supplement, but it is present in potassium

iodide which is in both Lugol's and Iodoral.

Cortisol has a big influence on potassium. I have read " low cortisol retains

potassium & wastes sodium, high cortisol wastes potassium & retains sodium " . So

adrenals are playing a role in this scenario but there are other things that

affect potassium such as kidney function, and there are other things such as

chronic venous disease that cause edema in the lower legs. There is also a

connection between progesterone and potassium.

In regards to potassium supplementation I am keen on potassium bicarbonate as a

source if supplementation is needed, though others find potassium chloride

beneficial. Again, it depends on the individuals situation.

If it were me I would be looking at electrolyte balance and other causes of low

leg edema and high blood pressure and not be as concerned about the consumption

of unrefined sea salt, unless it is out of proportion to the other electrolytes.

Here are articles that may be of interest to you:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/water3.php and

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/articles/1998-v13n04-p215.shtml

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> Hello:

> I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my lower

> leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am

> again.

> This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on my

> swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .

> I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?

> Any advise out there?

> Thanks,

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I was recently having leg edema again, and found that part of my problem was too much Potassium! I have been having more and more trouble with shortness of breath lately, even though I am on oxygen 24/7. I was thinking I needed more potassium and was eating more and more bananas. Finally I realized I was getting too much Potassium! If Potassium is too high or too low, it can be dangerous for the heart. Also, you might want to read about Chromium. Online info reveals that while we don’t need much Chromium, it is crucial. We certainly are a complex puzzle! Finding the right recipe for each of us is a real challenge. It’s a good thing we have one another on this forum. Docs are just about useless. DodyColorado From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of baxroxSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:58 AMiodine Subject: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited Bonnie,When I read your first inquiry awhile back my thoughts went to a question of electrolyte balance. People low on potassium (or significantly out of balance in comparison to the other electrolytes) may have edema.If I recall your earlier post mentioned also struggling with high blood pressure ... when I think of high blood pressure I do not think of unrefined sea salt being the cause, I think of either a lack of potassium or magnesium - or both. Low magnesium is somewhat easier to narrow down symptomatically. To get a true lab result obtain either an intracellular test by IntraCellular Diagnostics or a Red Blood Cell because serum levels are not accurate for measurement. Generally if the serum levels of magnesium are out of whack things have progressed to a critical place.Because each person has individual challenges one could not say for example " I " m taking 400 mg of magnesium per day " and think that would be enough. For some that is enough but for others up to 1200 mg per day may be their best dose. The type of magnesium being used also needs to be taken into consideration. You have been a long time list member and have most likely absorbed a lot of information about magnesium. Potassium is not discussed as much because it is not officially part of the iodine protocol as an additional supplement, but it is present in potassium iodide which is in both Lugol's and Iodoral.Cortisol has a big influence on potassium. I have read " low cortisol retains potassium & wastes sodium, high cortisol wastes potassium & retains sodium " . So adrenals are playing a role in this scenario but there are other things that affect potassium such as kidney function, and there are other things such as chronic venous disease that cause edema in the lower legs. There is also a connection between progesterone and potassium.In regards to potassium supplementation I am keen on potassium bicarbonate as a source if supplementation is needed, though others find potassium chloride beneficial. Again, it depends on the individuals situation.If it were me I would be looking at electrolyte balance and other causes of low leg edema and high blood pressure and not be as concerned about the consumption of unrefined sea salt, unless it is out of proportion to the other electrolytes.Here are articles that may be of interest to you: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/water3.php and http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/articles/1998-v13n04-p215.shtml--- In iodine , " Bonnie Cole " <bonnieview@...> wrote:>> Hello:> I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my lower> leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am> again.> This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on my> swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .> I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?> Any advise out there?> Thanks,> > Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Yes Linn, just

last week and I’ll have the results soon. What should I be looking for

or looking at in regards to this Edema and should I post them here?

Thanks,

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Linn

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012

11:48 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Salt and Leg

Edema revisited

Bonnie,

Have you had recent thyroid labs?

Linn

Moderator

>

> Hello:

>

>

>

> I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my

lower

> leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am

> again.

>

>

>

> This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on

my

> swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .

>

>

>

> I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?

>

>

>

> Any advise out there?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bonnie

>

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[Guest guest]

Hypothyroidism can Be a cause of edema also. Post the results when you get

them.

Linn

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> > Hello:

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my

> lower

> > leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am

> > again.

> >

> >

> >

> > This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on

> my

> > swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .

> >

> >

> >

> > I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?

> >

> >

> >

> > Any advise out there?

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Bonnie

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